Author Topic: Ideas for Super Smash Bros. 4 (Read 1474 times)

Kid Chyllen™♪ · « **on:** July 19, 2011, 04:04:33 PM »

SSB4
Here's some ideas for characters and modes for the New Smash Bros.

Characters

- = Veteran
* = Newcomer
** = Newcomer Idea
/ = Removed
+ = Returning

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Tell me what you guys think.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2011, 04:44:29 PM »

If I may throw in my two cents about this:
* How is Young Link better than Toon Link? If anything I think Toon Link is more original
* I don't see any reason to add anyone from the new Kid Icarus game. Then again it hasn't come out yet
* That third Earthbound/Mother ref BETTER be Pokey Minch
* I think 3rd parties should only have ONE ref

Here's my dream roster

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I agree with you on the other stuff though

Kriven · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2011, 04:59:45 PM »

I was wondering when these threads were going to show

If I were to make a roster, mine would look like this (50 character maximum set.)

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HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #3 on:** July 19, 2011, 05:52:04 PM »

Maybe when we post rosters we should have them in spoiler tags, to avoid page stretching

PBRTODD101 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 19, 2011, 07:45:46 PM »

Something tells me Lucario would be replaced with Zoroark, as much as I'd hate it.

Kriven · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2011, 09:43:29 PM »

But Zoroark is like D:

ATiC3 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2011, 10:03:56 PM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on July 19, 2011, 05:52:04 PM

Maybe when we post rosters we should have them in spoiler tags, to avoid page stretching

Agreed. Done.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:00:16 PM »

I don't really care if Lucario gets replaced or not, I just want my playable Meowth

Kid Chyllen™♪ · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2011, 12:24:37 AM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on July 19, 2011, 04:44:29 PM

If I may throw in my two cents about this:
* How is Young Link better than Toon Link? If anything I think Toon Link is more original
* I don't see any reason to add anyone from the new Kid Icarus game. Then again it hasn't come out yet
* That third Earthbound/Mother ref BETTER be Pokey Minch
* I think 3rd parties should only have ONE ref

-How is Young Link NOT more original than Toon Link ? Wtf. IMO Ocarina of Time was better than every other 3D Zelda game (including Wind Waker) and I personally would love to see Young Link in Twilight Princess apparel (like they did to Sheik who wasn't even in the game).

-The new Smash will probably come out in 2013, early 2014 tops (You know how Sakurai is) ... There's enough time for Sakurai to put in a new Kid Icarus character.

-Pokey would be good.

-And yeah I just thought about that xD

Kriven · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2011, 02:11:16 AM »

Whether his game is better or not is entirely irrelevent in a discussion of originality.

Considering that previous Smash games have used content that was mainly from the generation previous, I doubt Kid Icarus will get anymore rep.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:00:03 AM »

I reason being that Toon Link and reg Link represent two different universes in the Zelda mythology: Twilight Princess era and the Toon trilogy (Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Train) which I personally adore

But yeah I think we can agree on one thing: Pokey Minch for Smash

Kid Chyllen™♪ · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2011, 02:49:11 PM »

I had an idea for Blood Falcon's B moves.

He could have Captain Falcon's SSB64 stance.

His B move (Blood Punch .. err whatever.)
Could be like the Falcon Punch, only done with the opposite hand (A little simular to Gannondorf's) and a ray comes out of it. It could be chargeable too so that 3 rays come out. The move won't be more powerful than the Falcon Punch, it'll be weaker.

His down B move (Blood Kick .. err whateverrrr.)
Could be like the Falcon Kick, only in standing place. It could be chargeable too so that 3 rays come out of it. This move isn't more powerful than the Falcon Kick.

His up B move (Hawk Boost)
Could be like the Raptor Boost, only done with 2 hands.

Sounds like he'll be a clone of Captain Falcon but it's whatever .. That's what he's supposed to be anyways.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2011, 02:57:47 PM »

If there's gonna be another F Zero ref, I'd rather it be Samurai Goroh. At least he wouldn't be a clone (gameplay wise)

laspacho · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:57:37 PM »

I want to see Eggplant Wizard from Kid Icarus.

Fou · « **Reply #14 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:06:51 PM »

I am sure !!!

Lucario replaced by Zoroark

bet all you have

Silva-silva · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:19:12 PM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on July 20, 2011, 02:57:47 PM

If there's gonna be another F Zero ref, I'd rather it be Samurai Goroh. At least he wouldn't be a clone (gameplay wise)

It should be black shadow, in the f-zero cannon goroh is a joke. Black shadow is tha main villan of the series and he would use primarily magic for his moves.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:24:13 PM »

I actually had a moveset made for Rayman should he be in the next Smash, along with other things for him

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Anyone like it?

Kid Chyllen™♪ · « **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2011, 11:27:05 AM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on July 20, 2011, 11:24:13 PM

I actually had a moveset made for Rayman should he be in the next Smash, along with other things for him

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Neutral Special - Fist - Rayman throws a ranged punch. The longer you charge it, the farther it goes
Side Special - Lockjaw - Rayman fires a Lockjaw, shocking anyone it grabs. Can also tether recover
Up Special - Hair Copter - Rayman gets a sudden boost upwards and floats down with his hair
Down Special - Shock Rocket - Rayman fires a Shock Rocket

Final Smash - Flying Shell - Rayman rides on the Flying Shell from Rayman 2. The Flying Shell has two attacks: an energy projectile and a short ranged drill attack

Up Taunt - Rayman 1 level complete (spins around and does a pose)
Side Taunt - Rayman 2 level complete (does a little kicking dance)
Down Taunt - Does his face in Rayman 3 that turns Dark Lums to Red Lums

Victory Animation 1 - ~~Winning Animation from Rabbids 1 (moonwalk backwards, then does a disco-pointing-like dance)~~
Victory Animation 2 - ~~Losing Animation from Rabbids 1 (sways from side to side, kicks, and does the "bring it on" hand gesture)~~
Victory Animation 3 - ~~New Record Animation from Rabbids 1 (does a "boxed in" like dance, spins around and points forward)~~

Alt Color 1 - Blue hair, neckerchief and shoe soles; red shirt and shoes (ala Heavy Metal Fists)
Alt Color 2 - Blue hair, shirt, and shoes; green hankerchief and shoe soles (ala LockJaw)
Alt Color 3 - Green hair, shirt, and shoes; red hankerchief and shoe soles (ala Vortex Fist)
Alt Color 4 - Orange hair, shirt, and shoes; blue hankerchief and shoe soles (ala Shock Rocket)
Alt Color 5 - Yellow hair, shirt, and shoes; purple hankerchief and shoe soles (ala Copter)

TROPHIES:
Rayman
Rayman Final Smash
Globox
Ly
Murphy
Teensies & Teensie King
Betilda
Mr Dark
Bzzit
Globox's kids
Sssssam
Admiral Razorbeard
Andre
Reflux
Lums
Dark Lums
Rabbids

Anyone like it?

No Rabbids please. Those games sucked so much.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2011, 12:42:44 PM »

Quote from: Jay.Chyllen™♪ on July 21, 2011, 11:27:05 AM

No Rabbids please. Those games sucked so much.

1.) Every Rabbids game after the first one sucked. The first one was okay
2.) It's only a trophy. I didn't make him an Assist Trophy
3.) Like it or not, they WILL mention the Rabbids in some form if Rayman appears

Kid Chyllen™♪ · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2011, 12:52:41 AM »

Quote from: HyperSonic92 on July 21, 2011, 12:42:44 PM

1.) Every Rabbids game after the first one sucked. The first one was okay
2.) It's only a trophy. I didn't make him an Assist Trophy
3.) Like it or not, they WILL mention the Rabbids in some form if Rayman appears

Trophy and Assist Trophy I could deal with. I made a mistake with the Victory Animations ... I didn't read it correctly. I had thought it said Taunt

, my bad

Kriven · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2011, 03:08:05 AM »

On the topic of F-Zero:

If an F-Zero rep did appear, I think they best choices would either be Black Shadow or Deathborn. Whole Goroh would be more crowd pleasing, the other two are cool in their own ways and have far more importance to the F-Zero canon.

Additionally, if they did go the way of Blood Falcon, there's no reason to make his moveset a clone of Captain Falcon. Blood is far less stable than his origin, and that could easily be eccentuated in a moveset.

UberAndrew · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:43:07 AM »

There are a lot of things I would love to see in the next Smash game, here's what I think would be at least plausible.
-veteran
++Returning
+newcomer
/Alternate costume (Like how Wario has an alternative costume. Costumes would change how characters look to a certain extant but not how they play.)
*New Item
#New assist Trophy

MARIO SERIES
-Mario/Dr.Mario/Mario Sunshine shirt
-Peach/Daisy
-Lugi
-Bowser/Dry Bowser
+?#?Geno (If not as a character, than an assist trophy)
-Yoshi/Boshi
#Birdo
#Bowser J.r.
#Koopalings
*Mega Mushrom (Rarer version of Super Mushroom, like the Golden Hammer to regular hammer)

DONKEY KONG SERIES
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
+King K. Rool/Kaptain K. Rool/Mario Super Sluggers Outfit
+Dixie Kong
#Krusha

ZELDA SERIES
-Link/Shadow Link
-Ganondorf
-Zelda-Sheik
+Majoras Mask Link (Transforms into Goron, Zora and Deku scrub, like the Pokemon trainer you play as his transformations and not the actual Link)
-ToonLink
+Toon Zelda-sheik (Only if they allow more than 4 characters from a particular series.
#Gerudo Guard
*Heal fairy

POKEMON SERIES
-Pikachu
-JigglyPuff
-Pokemon Trainer/Different region trainers for pokemon trainers alt costume, does not change pokemon.
++Mewtwo
+Some Gen 5 Pokemon, probably zoroark.
+Plusle and Minun (Works like ice Climbers)

KIRBY SERIES
-Kirby
-MetaKnight/Mask-less Metaknight/Galactic Kinght
-King dedede/Iron Masked Dedede
#Adeleine

METROID SERIES
-Samus-Zero Suit Samus/Fusion Suit Samus
+Anthony higgs
#Space Pirate

MOTHER SERIES
-Ness
-Lucas
#Pokey

WARIO SERIES
-Wario/Biker Wario
+Waluigi

STARFOX SERIES
-Fox
-Falco (More decloned)
-Wolf (Decloned)
+Krystal

FIRE EMBLEM SERIES
-Marth
-Ike
++Roy (Nerfed and decloned)

PIKMIN SERIES
-Olimar/louie
#Swooping Snitchbug (Takes items off stage and sometimes tries to take player, if you struggle you can brake free)

ICE CLIMBERS SERIES
-Ice Climbers
#Eggplant healing items

MR. GAME AND WATCH SERIES
-Mr. Game and Watch

HARDWARE SERIES
-Rob
+Mii
*Power Glove (Increase attack power, or something like that)

F ZERO SERIES
-Captain Falcon/Blood falcon
+samurai goroh

PUNCHOUT SERIES
+little Mac
#King Hippo

KID ICARUS SERIES
-Pit
+I'm sure there will be some new character in the game that will be add from uprising, especially considering they main guy behing Smash is also behing Kid Icarus.

THIRD PARTY
-Sonic
+Knuckles (If they decided to add more than one character from a veteran third party characters series)
-Snake
+MegaMan
+Bomber-Man
+Loyd Irving
+RayMan
+New school pacman
#ProtoMan
#Bass
#tetris
*E-Tank

NEW FEATURES:
-Battle Damage (Destructible armor, ripped clothing, scratches, crackable visors. [They actually started to add this to Brawl but scrapped it partway through development])
-New story mode.
-No more tripping, nothing good comes from it.
-MUCH better online play
-Able to use custom Music (Such as how you can use music from you playlist on your PS3 for certain PS3 games)

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2011, 08:20:45 AM »

1.) No Majora's Mask Link
2.) No Pokey as an Assist Trophy
3.) No multiple reps for third parties

Other than that, pretty cool list

Kid Chyllen™♪ · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2011, 11:20:03 AM »

Quote from: UberAndrew on July 22, 2011, 05:43:07 AM

There are a lot of things I would love to see in the next Smash game, here's what I think would be at least plausible.
-veteran
++Returning
+newcomer
/Alternate costume (Like how Wario has an alternative costume. Costumes would change how characters look to a certain extant but not how they play.)
*New Item
#New assist Trophy

MARIO SERIES
-Mario/Dr.Mario/Mario Sunshine shirt
-Peach/Daisy
-Luigi
-Bowser/Dry Bowser
+?#?Geno (If not as a character, than an assist trophy)
#Birdo
#Bowser J.r.
#Koopalings
*Mega Mushrom (Rarer version of Super Mushroom, like the Golden Hammer to regular hammer)

YOSHI SERIES
-Yoshi/Boshi

DONKEY KONG SERIES
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
+King K. Rool/Kaptain K. Rool/Mario Super Sluggers Outfit
+Dixie Kong
#Krusha

ZELDA SERIES
-Link/Shadow Link
-Ganondorf
-Zelda-Sheik
+Majoras Mask Link (Transforms into Goron, Zora and Deku scrub, like the Pokemon trainer you play as his transformations and not the actual Link)
-Toon Link
+Toon Zelda-sheik (Only if they allow more than 4 characters from a particular series.)
#Gerudo Guard
*Heal fairy

POKEMON SERIES
-Pikachu
-JigglyPuff
-Pokemon Trainer/Different region trainers for pokemon trainers alt costume, does not change pokemon.
++Mewtwo
+Some Gen 5 Pokemon, probably zoroark.
+Plusle and Minun (Works like ice Climbers)

KIRBY SERIES
-Kirby
-MetaKnight/Mask-less Metaknight/Galactic Kinght
-King dedede/Iron Masked Dedede
#Adeleine

METROID SERIES
-Samus-Zero Suit Samus/Fusion Suit Samus
+Anthony higgs
#Space Pirate

MOTHER SERIES
-Ness
-Lucas
#Pokey

WARIO SERIES
-Wario/Biker Wario
+Waluigi

STARFOX SERIES
-Fox
-Falco (More decloned)
-Wolf (Decloned)
+Krystal

FIRE EMBLEM SERIES
-Marth
-Ike
++Roy (Nerfed and decloned)

PIKMIN SERIES
-Olimar/louie
#Swooping Snitchbug (Takes items off stage and sometimes tries to take player, if you struggle you can brake free)

ICE CLIMBERS SERIES
-Ice Climbers
#Eggplant healing items

MR. GAME AND WATCH SERIES
-Mr. Game and Watch

HARDWARE SERIES
-Rob
+Mii
*Power Glove (Increase attack power, or something like that)

F ZERO SERIES
-Captain Falcon/Blood falcon
+samurai goroh

PUNCHOUT SERIES
+little Mac
#King Hippo

KID ICARUS SERIES
-Pit
+I'm sure there will be some new character in the game that will be add from uprising, especially considering they main guy behing Smash is also behing Kid Icarus.

THIRD PARTY
-Sonic
~~+Knuckles (If they decided to add more than one character from a veteran third party characters series)~~
-Snake
+MegaMan
+Bomber-Man
+Loyd Irving
+RayMan
+New school pacman
~~#ProtoMan~~
~~#Bass~~
#tetris
*E-Tank

NEW FEATURES:
-Battle Damage (Destructible armor, ripped clothing, scratches, crackable visors. [They actually started to add this to Brawl but scrapped it partway through development])
-New story mode.
-No more tripping, nothing good comes from it.
-MUCH better online play
-Able to use custom Music (Such as how you can use music from you playlist on your PS3 for certain PS3 games)

Geno is owned by Square Enix so I guess he would be a 3rd Party character ? Idk ...
Yoshi has his own series of games, so I've fixed that for you.
Yes, there should be a new Kid Icarus character from the new game !
And no more than one 3rd Party ref.

HyperVoiceActing · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2011, 11:37:46 AM »

Screw that weird looking Packman we have now. We need the GOOD Pac Man

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