Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3

[HyperVoiceActing]

It has nothing to do with gender-bending, and everything to do with dressing them up in stripper suits, making them pose for pure fanservice, and watching their terrified expressions as Demitri drains life from their bodies.

Everything about Midnight Bliss is borderline rape-fantasy.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't there also other transformations for Midnight Bliss? Like I know for Chun Li she had a Chibi one

[galactus]

Her lvl 3 and taunt use it so they left it.

About Jill: They also left the Wesker Contraption on her chest because her moveset makes absolutely zero sense without her being possessed.

Oh right, thanks Guys that makes sense, I wondered what the reason was..

Same. But if they're going to have it, they may as well make it make sense.

I honestly don't mind the moveset, I just want Jill to be more... Jill. I wouldn't mind if they gave that moveset to a different character and gave us the old Jill.

I agree with this as well,

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

It has nothing to do with gender-bending, and everything to do with dressing them up in stripper suits, making them pose for pure fanservice, and watching their terrified expressions as Demitri drains life from their bodies.

Everything about Midnight Bliss is borderline rape-fantasy.

SAY WHAT?  first off imma take a piece from the wiki on the game. i also have this in my darkstalkers book but worded almost the same.:

Demitri is well-known for his Midnight Bliss attack, which transforms male characters into a female form, and female characters into a more innocent form, while Demitri drains the opponent's energy. When hit by Anakaris' Pharaoh's Curse, he becomes a vampire bat. When attacked by his own Midnight Bliss, he transforms into an otherwise ordinary female maiden in a night gown.

now i have seen the midnight bliss sprites in games, i see no "fantasy rape' thats a very crude way of even looking at it imo. very. If it truly was that then they wouldnt have chose to even give him the move in the first place . they are meer puns on the characters themselves. now if we talkin bout what people may have done in mugen with midnight bliss is totally different .

 i really dont think for a second they would go in those directions for  characters. they could do it anyway they chose without making males into super sexy clad females while still wearing their original suits. and no where in that article did it mention anything in regards to that being exactly why, it was a memory problem with converting every character into those characters.  i can def understand that position .

Demitri as a character could have been included without the Midnight Bliss move. it could have been done. . just my observation as a fighting gamer and fan.

[-Whiplash-]

It has nothing to do with gender-bending, and everything to do with dressing them up in stripper suits, making them pose for pure fanservice

Yes, these are strippers:



Your right man, next time I see a girl in pajamas, a mermaid, whatever the hell anakaris is, two litte children, some chibi thing, a japanese girl in her gym outfit, a girl in a gi, a nurse, a girl in  a dress, a girl in a sasquatch costume or whatever the hell pyron is  suppoesed to be, I'm gonna toss them a roll of ones and ask them dance on my lap.

Out of the 20 girls in that image, I'd only classify about 6 of them as being even somewhat sexy.

On a second note, read the goddamn article I was responding to. Nowhere was "allusions to rape" mentioned, what was mentioned was:

When Rupert bewailed this omission to Niitsuma in a subsequent interview, the Capcom veteran pointed out that creating a schoolgirl version of every character model in the game ‘probably isn’t time well spent’, and that in any case, the notion of an Incredible Hulkette or Wolverina wouldn’t sit well with Marvel’s lawyers.

There already is a girl hulk AND wolverine (both of which are already in the game), as well as a girl thor, deadpool, and Cap, this is what I meant by marvel Bullsh*tting.

EDIT: Also, it's not like marvel has not had allusions to rape anyway in their comics (I still don't believe midnight bliss has anything to do with rape.) If you wanna see for yourself look up "heroes for hire 13 cover" or "Phoenix marvel MAX"

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

   

there cant be nothing wrong either with "sexy " characters cause guess what, we see them in 99% of the comics and cards we read and collect .

so Whiplash, i second that bro. 

[Swiziga]

i doubt capcom would take the time to make new models/animations for every character for midnight bliss anyway. they were saying chars like human torch were to difficult to implement in the game. midnight blisss was 2d so doing it in 3d would be a task that would require "too much effort"

[SanjiSasuke]

Probably same reason strikers aren't used.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

i doubt capcom would take the time to make new models/animations for every character for midnight bliss anyway. they were saying chars like human torch were to difficult to implement in the game. midnight blisss was 2d so doing it in 3d would be a task that would require "too much effort"

yup and so was ghost rider bike being implemented was...wait..scratch that it in somehow...but they do have superskrull torch like move so yeah that would be too hard too for a Torch...wait..super skrull has that so... yeah,

hmmm i see them saying "was" too hard to implement in the first game but i see in the second those too hard to implement stuff seems to be there.

ehhh demetri is just a no show  . oh well.

[MG]

Human Tourch was completed but taken out due to RAM issues of him constanlty being on fire then Marvel suggest Skrull as his replacement plus Marvel probably didn't want Tourch to be in since they were about to kill him off in the comics.

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The Thing was considered at one point, but they felt he would be too similar to Hulk.

• Human Torch was a completed character, but he ate up too much RAM and had to be taken out.

• Marvel suggested Super-Skrull as a Human Torch replacement.

• To balance the roster out, Niitsuma wanted to include a young Marvel female, and ultimately X-23 was decided on.

• Niitsuma intentionally held off Spider-Man's announcement until the Tokyo Game Show because he is a popular character in Japan.

• Marvel was reluctant to grant permission to include Shuma-Gorath, but Capcom convinced them that he is popular and an important part of the series history.

• Shuma-Gorath was the first Marvel character that Capcom proposed to Marvel — and he may have originally been planned as an on-disc character.

• Felicia has yet to appear in an official English language gameplay video because of the ESRB.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

yeah i could understand that a bit on the killing him off tho in the comics. so yeah.

but i eally cant buy that on fire constantly thing because i play with Pheonix in training mode of dark phoenix mode all the time constantly and she on fire so i dunno.  but i do like the inclusion of Super Skrull and having the ff abilities is quite fine.

[SanjiSasuke]

I don't buy the fire garbage either. Its built on MT Framework, if RE had all the FX they do, so can MvC.

[JagwarKnight]

with Reguards with torch... I thought it was more of him being a HUGE partical effect Due to him being Flamed on all the time.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

I don't buy the fire garbage either. Its built on MT Framework, if RE had all the FX they do, so can MvC.

exactly bro!  and as well look at ghost rider head, flamed all the time. yes its a smaller partical effect but cmon , if dark phoenix can have it then why not Torch in the same fashion?  Crapcom be skimming man.

[MG]

But Ghost Rider and Dark Phoenix's whole body aren't on fire like the Human Tourch just certain parts are.  with tourch what happens if you get two of him and all the other stuff that can be on the screen like tons of servbots and what not your bound to lag heck Doom can slow the game down with Hidden Missles.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

But Ghost Rider and Dark Phoenix's whole body aren't on fire like the Human Tourch just certain parts are.  with tourch what happens if you get two of him and all the other stuff that can be on the screen like tons of servbots and what not your bound to lag heck Doom can slow the game down with Hidden Missles.

i have never experienced any lag with doom or anyone yet other than in a online match and thats bec ause of user connection not actual characters gameplay.  but i submit this as an option if torch was to be made.:

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this is doable in UMVC3, no different than ghost rider head or phoenix in dark form. see how his reg body is underneath the flame parts, i  cant see why this cant be implemented when i can have a whole dark phoenix have the fire effect on her in those certain areas.  as well this could be implemented:

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same way. but in 3d model. can be done and has been done by lesser tech in 3d.:

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so i cant really buy all that bro. . if they can do it , it can be done. just maybe be some cool leg work they dont wanna do and wont admit it.

[DEMONKAI]

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[HyperVoiceActing]

The Thing was considered at one point, but they felt he would be too similar to Hulk.

She Hulk says hi

[SanjiSasuke]

She-Hulk is literally nothing like Hulk. Besides green, and the name.

[MG]

She Hulk says hi

A better example would be Akuma.

[-Whiplash-]

A better example would be Akuma.

As an akuma main, Akuma is not a clone of ryu (well, sort of... but not really). I can't play ryu at all, but I can play akuma.

[SanjiSasuke]

I'm the same in reverse, can't play Akuma for my life, but I'm so-so with Ryu.

But Akuma is extremely similar to him. I imagine Thing would be further from Hulk than Akuma is from Ryu.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

I play with ryu, good launch for my air raids< he plays different than akuma. the only thing i see they share are a few similiar techniques as they have throughout the years but they are like Day and late afternoon. not full night. . for me Akuma = power  and ryu = semblance of balance.

I would think thing would been cool in the game too but  yeah they got super skrull in there to represent the FF. But Thing wouldnt even have the same moveset as hulk anyway and she hulk is a female version of hulk, just lesser strength, cant see that astral whatever stuff like hulf supposed to be able to do in the comics, and she is more agile and is full aware of herself.  Wolverine and x-23 can as well be used in comparison. just some minor differenses to keep them both unique.

[DEMONKAI]

But Thing wouldnt even have the same moveset as hulk anyway

Agreed. Man all it takes is a bit pf creativity to make Thing's (aka Big ben) moveset totally different from the Hulk. If they can do it in a comic book how different they kick @ss then they can surely do it for MVC3. Heh...i know if i was one of the developers on board to make Thing stand out from the hulk in the game id nail 100%

haha i still kinda wish sub mariner was in the game or even Ultron

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

i know right! Ben can be total different than hulk no problem.  heck look at what they done with SS. even tho blunt of his moves are mister fantasic and Torch. and if you dont think torch is doable anyone...look at SS Hypers that are reflections of Human Torch himself. .  they aint fooling anyone with that saying oh we cant do him cause this and that. whatever. just like before ghost rider wasnt doable cause of the bike , but as we see in UMVC3, yeah i thought so. oh yeah if the RAM issue really was the factor, scratch out the dang raccoon  could have helped .
 just like i knew hawkeye could been in cause of Taskmaster. So anyone in Marvel stable is doable and it just comes down to the big wigs say so on a go and capcom wanting to use that character. Demitri and anyone else from darkstalkers is doable as well as anyone capcom wants to put in. heck ya give me Zero but you cant give me a megaman? but they give us the alternate outfit ( slap in the face and with a evil laugh from crapcom ). . I say just give me x or exe for goodness sakes and stop playing with my emotions and money. .

[MG]

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