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Nintendo Vs. Capcom (Members Needed)
« on: August 08, 2009, 02:46:03 AM »
Hello, everyone.

I'm new to this forum, and have only learned a little bit about MUGEN for the past two months.

I have been going to many different forums, and I have to say this is definitely one of my favorites.

The reason I am posting today is because I'm a huge fighter arcade fan, like most of you on here.

Ever sense my two favorite fighter titles, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, and Super Smash Bros. I have had my own dream of one of the best fighters of all time, that I believe all arcade fighter, capcom, and nintendo fans would enjoy.

Combining both Marvel vs. Capcom 2's fighting mechanics and expansive roster with Nintendo's vast library of colorful and memorable  characters, there could be a great fighter called  "Nintendo vs. Capcom."

Using MUGEN I have collected many different characters over the internet. With capcom I was much more successful (Because of so many characters being ripped.) However Nintendo's been much more difficult because, even though many characters have been made, none of them really match or are proportionate to the capcom cast.

I am relaying this message for all the character makers, stage builders, programmers, and whatever else is needed to make something as good as the "Super Marvel Vs. Capcom: EoH" demo.

I'm hoping to keep all the characters within proportion and they're all within the same style and well-animated sprites with decent AI (Not Godly AI, mind you.)

As far as the roster, here is the list for both sides. There are 75 characters per side. 150 characters total. (It's a lot I know...) Plus a random block for each side.

Note: Any character with a * beside them is a character you have to unlock.

Here's the list: 

NINTENDO SIDE

MARIO BROS.
  1) Mario
  2) Luigi
  3) Peach
  4) Daisy*
  5) Bowser
  6) Rosalina*

LEGEND OF ZELDA
  7) Link
  8) Zelda
  9) Shiek
10) Ganondorf
11) Toon Link*
12) Midna*
13) Tingle*
14) Vaati*

STARFOX
15) Fox McCloud
16) Falco Lambardi
17) Wolf O'Donnel*
18) Krystal*

PIKMIN
19) Olimar

POKEMON
20) Pikachu
21) Jigglypuff
22) Lucario*
23) Mewtwo*
24) P. Trainer

FIRE EMBLEM
25) Marth
26) Roy*
27) Lyn*
28) Ike

WARIO WORLD/WARE
29) Wario
30) Waluigi*
31) Mona
32) Ashley
33) Jimmy T.

F-ZERO
34) Capt. Falcon
35) Black Shadow*

GOLDEN SUN
36) Isacc
37) Felix*

DONKEY KONG COUNTRY
38) Donkey Kong
40) Diddy Kong
41) Dixie Kong*
42) King K. Rool*

MOTHER
43) Ness
44) Paula
45) Poo
45) Porky*
46) Lucas
47) Duster*
48) Kumatora
49) Claus*

ICE CLIMBER
50) Popo & Nana

KID ICARUS
51) Pit

KIRBY
52) Kirby
53) Meta-Knight
54) King Dedede
55) Gooey*


YOSHI
56) Yoshi

ANIMAL CROSSING
57) K.K.Slider*
58) Tom Nook

METROID
59) Samus
60) Zero Suit Samus
61) Ridley*

LEGENDARY STARFY
62) Starfy

PUNCH-OUT
63) Little Mac

SIN & PUNISHMENT
64) Saki A.

BALLOON KID
65) Alice

MAGICAL STARSIGN
66) Latte  (The main boy character of the game. I named him this considering all the characters you play are named after something you can buy at a coffee shop.)

CHIBI ROBO
67) Chibi Robo

CUSTOM ROBO
68) Ray MK III

PANEL DE PON (JAPAN ONLY)
69) Lip

ADVANCE WARS
70) Andy

CAPTAIN RAINBOW (JAPAN ONLY)
71) Capt. Rainbow

NAZO NO MURASAMEJO (JAPAN ONLY)
72) Takamaru

GAME & WATCH
73) Mr. Game & Watch*

STACK-UP/GYROMITE
74) R.O.B.*

HANAFUDA
75) Rain-man*



CAPCOM SIDE

STREET FIGHTER
  1) Ryu
  2) Ken
  3) Chun-Li
  4) Dan
  5) Blanka
  6) Sakura
  7) Guile
  8) Dhalsim
  9) Zangief
10) Cammy*
11) Sagat
12) Akuma*
13) M.Bison


DARKSTALKERS
14) Morrigan
15) Donovan
16) Demitri
17) B. B. Hood
18) J. Talbain
19) Felicia
20) Anakaris
21) Lei Lei
22) Pyron*
23) Jedah*

MEGAMAN / X / BATTLE NETWORK / LEGENDS
24) Megaman
25) Roll
26) Protoman*
27) Bass*
28) T. Bonne
29) Servbot*
30) Megaman X
31) Zero*

CAPTAIN COMMANDO
32) Capt. Commando
33) Baby Head*

GHOSTS 'N' GHOULS
34) Arthur
35) Red Arremer*

RESIDENT EVIL
36) Jill Valentine
37) Leon S. Kennedy
38) Chris Redfield
39) Wesker*
40) Nemesis*

DEVIL MAY CRY
41) Dante
42) Virgil*
43) Nero*

OKAMI
44) Amaterasu
45) Waka*

VIEWTIFUL JOE
46) Viewtiful Joe
47) Sexy Sylvia*
48) Captain Blue*

POWER STONE
49) Falcon
50) Gunrock
51) Rouge
52) Ayame
53) Wang Tang
54) Ryoma
55) Jack*

FINAL FIGHT
56) Haggar

STRIDER HIRYU
57) Hiryu

ZACK & WIKI
58) Zack

VS. CAPCOM
59) Ruby Heart
60) Amingo
61) Ingrid*
62) Norimaro*

SONSON
63) SonSon

RED EARTH
64) Leo
65) Tessa

CYBERBOTS
66) Jin

STAR GLADIATOR
67) Hayato

LOST PLANET
68) Wayne

DEADRISING
69) Frank West

BIONIC COMMANDO
70) Radd Spencer

BREATH OF FIRE
71) Ryu Buteson
72) Nina
73) Bow*
74) Katt*
75) Rand*

Here's a link to a pic I made for a make-shift roster:
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/TreyFox/?action=view&current=NvC-Roster.png

If you are interested in building any of these characters, or stages for the characters, especially on the Nintendo side, let me know and I would like to discuss about how the character could be built.

I will later be posting a list of capcom characters that won't be needing building because I already have them and within the Marvel vs. Capcom style and context.

Once again, I'm just an idea guy, but I would really like to hear and see support from other people that are as enthusiastic about these ideas as I am.

Would love to hear any positive thoughts or comments.

Really looking for the support. 



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Re: Nintendo Vs. Capcom (Members Needed)
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 03:58:13 AM »
well, Although I like the Idea, and I agree it would be great, I was once just Idea man myself, but I later learned how to sprite, and am learning how to code.

However, I will say this:

Biospark Before Gooey, he's like, a million times cooler, also, I made up a moveset for him already.

might work on him, maybe probably sometime in the distant future.
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Re: Nintendo Vs. Capcom (Members Needed)
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 05:42:22 AM »
*Nods* I agree Biospark's cooler, but the reason I put in Gooey is because he has a history as Player 2 in some Kirby games. I have the list based more on a character's importance and history impact on the game series.

I am also learning bit by bit. However I'm a terrible sprite maker, and I know the nintendo sprites would all have to be made from scratch to go with the capcom characters style and animation.

There's no way I could build the whole thing on my own regardless.

Either way, would you be interested in being a character builder? It's just nice to know I finally got a nibble after this was posted 3 hours ago. (Probably more.)

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 06:09:20 AM »
I'd love to help, but I've kinda tyed up making Onomotopiea and Hornetman right now,maybe when I've finished them, I could help you, no promises though.

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 06:13:23 AM »
It's just nice to know someone cares.

If you were to work on any characters which would you be most interested in building? (Not signing you up or anything, just curious.)

Also if there's anyone else you know that you think would be interested in this, It would be great if you could let them know about it.

Are you developing characters for Super Marvel vs. Capcom: EoH?

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Re: Nintendo Vs. Capcom (Members Needed)
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 10:04:23 AM »
Hi. Welcome to Infinity. :)

Just so you know, its considered rude to ask someone to make a character at about every mugen forum in the community.

There are lots of tutorials that show you how you can make sprites or code, and if you can do one or the other then you'll have a better chance of getting the character you want to see so badly done.

Feel free to check out the tutorial section, you can make sprites or code things yourself.

Good Luck %%-

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2009, 10:06:22 AM »
Stupid question: Even though he's not officially a Nintendo character, Duke Nukem did appear on 3 different Nintendo consoles: the Nintendo 64, the Game Boy Color and the Game Boy Advance.  Any chance you could sneak him in as a hidden character on the Nintendo side?

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 03:18:59 PM »
Thank you for your input.

As I have said in a previous post, I am learning to do some of this stuff myself bit by bit. It just confuses me a little bit that you would say it's rude to request a character for mugen on any forum when theres a whole section here dedicated to requesting things.

I know I could do a lot of this myself, but then it's a bit insane to completely go this project alone if you've seen what I said in mind. I'm just looking to see who's interested in working on the project with me.

If you don't want to, just say so. You don't have to insult my intelligence over it.

Either way, if there's a section dedicated to it, then I don't think it's being rude. I think it's just asking who's interested.

Thanks for wishing me luck, though.

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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2009, 03:20:46 PM »
Can you make Roy a starter please?

He's my fav Fire Emblem guy!

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2009, 03:22:42 PM »
If it were a smash bros. title I would consider it, but sense I am trying to do strictly "Nintendo vs. Capcom" here, no. Duke Nukem wouldn't quality. Even though he is an awesome character.

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2009, 03:24:31 PM »
Not to sound rude, but some people can take months, to a year to make one full half decent character. Or a full team of experienced coders can take years to complete a full game, so you should really think about what your getting into I am not trying to discourage you, I just see a LOT of people planning on making a big game like this - But no one ever really does it, or finishes it.
I'm just saying maybe you should make one character or something, THEN try and recruit people, you will have MUCH greater luck. And maybe make a much smaller roster, because even with a team, you won't be able to finish that many characters...at least with good quality to boot...
Good luck, and welcome to Mugen.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2009, 03:26:01 PM »
It's possible. The way I was thinking of having the characters be unlocked would be through a points system like Marvel vs. Capcom 2. I'll consider it.

I missed Roy too. I he was my best character in Melee before Brawl rolled in.

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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2009, 03:26:28 PM »
If it were a smash bros. title I would consider it, but sense I am trying to do strictly "Nintendo vs. Capcom" here, no. Duke Nukem wouldn't quality. Even though he is an awesome character.

Sorry to get annoying,

But when he's a beta or alpha,can I have him?

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2009, 03:28:27 PM »
Wasn't a MvC style-ish Duke Nukem released already? The half decent one with the pipebombs? =P

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2009, 03:32:28 PM »
Thank you for your concern.

I know that it would take a lot of work and a large team effort to make what I'm dreaming a reality. I figured that before posting. That is why I am on this forum asking in the first place. Right now it's just me. I am looking for people who's willing to support the project. I appreciate the concern whole-heartedly though.

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It's no bother. Sure. Whomever gets him or makes him, (be it me or someone else) I'll have the character posted.

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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2009, 03:36:34 PM »
You mean Roy?

ROY!

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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2009, 03:37:49 PM »
Hehe. Yes. I mean Roy.

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2009, 03:39:31 PM »
Me happy.

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2009, 03:40:29 PM »
I'm not doubting your dream, just saying you will have better luck if you make one character or something, else recruiting people is going to be pretty much impossible, especially ones that can create EOH quality characters, sine they are-...well...working ON EOH game xP
I just can't explain how vast what your trying to attempt is, I guess we just have to let you see for yourself. I do think this project has a chance, but not with the bar set so high at the beginning.

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2009, 03:41:51 PM »
 :'(

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2009, 03:45:29 PM »
Wasn't a MvC style-ish Duke Nukem released already? The half decent one with the pipebombs? =P


I have that one (and no, I didn't make it).  He was the first MUGEN character I ever downloaded, and I almost completed Arcade mode with him once (long story short: got killed by Akuma and nearly broke the keyboard).  I'll PM you the link.

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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2009, 03:46:01 PM »
:'(
Hey I wouldn't mind a Roy character either, I just think he should take small steps at a time. It's quite possible to do a project like this, if you approach it properly.

EDIT: (I know you didn't make him, and I already have the character. I just forgot who made him and didn't check the readme before posting that)

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2009, 03:47:35 PM »
In my opinion TreyFox, I suggest that you lower the character roster mainly because 75 characters on each side equals 150 characters and it's a lot of work to do if you are the only person working on it. It'd be probably take years for you to make all 150 characters if you made it all by yourself. Just a suggestion though.

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2009, 03:48:04 PM »
Crud.  I already sent you the PM with the link!  Oh, well, forward it to anyone who doesn't have it already.

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Re: Nintendo Vs. Capcom (Members Needed)
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2009, 03:49:14 PM »
As I have said in a previous post, I am learning to do some of this stuff myself bit by bit. It just confuses me a little bit that you would say it's rude to request a character for mugen on any forum when theres a whole section here dedicated to requesting things.

Request a created char is different to request the creation of a char.

I should suggest you begin with something more smaller. Considering that half of those characters will need custom sprites, I think that a quantity of 12 good characters can be great for a beginning. You can have updates, this is MUGEN.

See you, good luck.

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