MSHVSF/MVC2 Ken Beta Release and Updated 10/13/2007

[Negi Springfield]

aside from what Zero said...
I feel you need to only work on two other things..

you should animate his Shinku Hadouken better and
you should make his Double Shunku Hadouken un-comboable
with his Shinku Hadouken
but that last idea is just a thought..

other than that...he just rocks....

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

*waits for Nutpatch to go crazy*

Congrats on the new release!

i really want to this week is goin my way!! just wat i was waiten for YESSS nice release reza congrats

[poorboy93]

Thanks you guys i'm glad you folks like him because some people think he's just pure CRAP.

This Ken is terrible.

• Shoryuken knocks the opponent too high.
• HK should NOT knock the opponent all the way across the world. This is MvC, not DBZ.
• CLSNs are retarded.
• Attack spark animations are wrong.
• HOORAY, INFINITE ATTACK PRIORITY!
• Shin Ryuken does WAY TOO MUCH DAMAGE FOR A LEVEL 1 SUPER.
• MvC super jump DOES NOT HAVE AFTERIMAGES!!!
• Double Shinkuu Hadouken is a lvl2 and only does 32 more damage than Shin RyuKen, which is overpowered for a lvl1 anyway? What the hell?
• I should be able to kick up to, from memory, 7 times when using the HK forward throw.
• The vel at which the opponent is thrown at HK backward throw is too high in both X and Y.
• KEN SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DOUBLE JUMP
• YOUR CLSNS ARE SO RETARDED THAT I HAVE TO MENTION IT AGAIN
• NICE DEBUG FLOOD. THOSE WHITE LETTERS ARE THERE FOR A REASON. TRY READING THEM.

The only thing thats wrong with JZ's post is that he was mean....Well hopefully its better then your cyclops who was cheap...   

[Megabyte]

I agree with poor boy...something tells me that the main reason he went off like that (and this seems to be a BIG thing with many of the Mugen vets in the community) is so many people not really trying the character and just posting that the char is great! Reza, you know me from the Guild...I gave you a lot (or at least I think it was ) of inspiration on your Cyclops (the whole using XML and XM:ND for new moves for him, remember) so you know I'm not out to dis you...but I agree with some or all of JZ's points. I'm not a creator so I don't know all those technical terms he used, but I do know that there are some problems with him just by watching the video (yes, I am going to DL him and try him out myself later this week). Like, near the end of the vid (in the second round) when Ken threw one of his Hadoukens within sweep distance, either the fireball missed or it didn't create a hitspark...some of his attacks look jittery, but that could simply be from the actual video recording so, meh...I like Ken, and this one is certainly a welcome addition...but I also know that this one is a beta and I can see that there is still work...so please try to take JZ's tips (minus the mean stuff) and work on those points as well, cause he needs those things to be fixed along with all the extra stuff you are gonna add. Keep it up, dude.

P.S. I am just gonna go ahead and suggest this now while it's on my mind; when you get ready to start on your other Marvel chars, try to use Marvel Ultimate alliance and other Marvel games like it as inspiration for new stuff (like you did with Cyke) cause I can already tell you that in MUA, Spidey's new Bash Throw would be a nice move for him (let me know if you need me to elaborate)...haven't played the updated 360 version of MUA, so not sure what they gave new to Mags and Cyke, but it's worth finding out to make your chars unique.

[MaverickZr0]

Another thing to make his shinryu-ken look nicer is make the light pillar flash, like in MSHvsSF. It'd look cooler!
Not really a glitch but, feedback 

[Megabyte]

Another thing to make his shinryu-ken look nicer is make the light pillar flash, like in MSHvsSF. It'd look cooler!
Not really a glitch but, feedback 

Speaking of which, would it be possible to extend the pillar to the highest point possible? Cause right now it looks kinda weird that the pillar just seems to star in midair outta nowhere (there is still airspace ABOVE the pillar, so it just looks kinda odd :-\)

[Reza]

Another thing to make his shinryu-ken look nicer is make the light pillar flash, like in MSHvsSF. It'd look cooler!
Not really a glitch but, feedback 

Speaking of which, would it be possible to extend the pillar to the highest point possible? Cause right now it looks kinda weird that the pillar just seems to star in midair outta nowhere (there is still airspace ABOVE the pillar, so it just looks kinda odd :-\)

Yo man whats up Megabyte long time to talk, anyway yeah i know about the pillar i just don't know how to fix that right now and the other stuff that you mentioned.

[Luffy]

just extend the sprite with photoshop
increase the canvas site height
duplicate the sprite
and paste the extension in

[Reza]

just extend the sprite with photoshop
increase the canvas site height
duplicate the sprite
and paste the extension in

I don't use Photo Shop, i use IrfanView but i can still do it with that...right.

[Luffy]

i guess paint can do the job as well

[FDX The Hyper Bomb]

(waits for mugen infantry to come back up)

[Reza]

Mugen-Infantry is under maintenance.

[R.I.C.O - Teros]

Just as soon as I got time to test some chars MI is down. Guess I just have to wait. **

[KPT25]

Contrats on this new release Reza ...he´s a great char,he´ll replace my Ken-x soon
BTW,the palettes that you included with the char don´t work at all...none of them...
It only works with the portrait,but not the rest of the char
I know that it´s the first beta,so you have a lot of space to improve things stated before
And above all...PLZ DON´T ASK SM TO MAKE THE AI FOR HIM!!!
He turned your awesome Cyclops into a cheap proyectile spammer...
Good job and keep it up!

[SHINRYU_X]

great looking char dude keep up the good work

[shootYr.]

XD
M.I Down Again!

[Tenspeed]

he's a fun character sofar. lots need to be fixed, but hell, it's a beta.

and yeah, I agree about the AI. cyclops was SO frustrating. I actually had to take that lightning move of his out.

[Luis/Dshiznet]

omg.. i love it!

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

great job reza ur mvc2 character rivals redhots do u plan on makin anymore mvc2 style characters i was suprised about how goo this ken was

[Reza]

he's a fun character sofar. lots need to be fixed, but hell, it's a beta.

and yeah, I agree about the AI. cyclops was SO frustrating. I actually had to take that lightning move of his out.

Yeah i working on some fixes and about Cyclops AI yeah he's kinda hard i know i find him hard to beat myself, but don't worry he'll make a comeback and he'll be better and badder.

great job reza ur mvc2 character rivals redhots do u plan on makin anymore mvc2 style characters i was suprised about how goo this ken was

Thanks and yes i have a list of characters that i want to make...let me show you guys...

MY LIST:
MSHVSF/MVC2 Characters
-Cyclops
-Ken
-Magneto
-Spider-Man
-Dr. Doom
-Guile
-Kyosuke (From CVS2)
-Dan
-Onslaught
-Colossus
-Terry (From CVS2)
-Captain America
-Iceman
-Cyber Akuma
-Fei-Long
-Megaman
More to come just thinking of who

Other Characters
-Spawn
-Sub-Zero (UMK3)
-Scorpion (UMK3)
-Ibuki (SF3)
-Gill (SF3) he's a maybe

So yeah thats my list.

[.:K.I.N.G:.]

dude there is no decent Gill for mugen..i would say go for Gill 

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

he's a fun character sofar. lots need to be fixed, but hell, it's a beta.

and yeah, I agree about the AI. cyclops was SO frustrating. I actually had to take that lightning move of his out.

Yeah i working on some fixes and about Cyclops AI yeah he's kinda hard i know i find him hard to beat myself, but don't worry he'll make a comeback and he'll be better and badder.

great job reza ur mvc2 character rivals redhots do u plan on makin anymore mvc2 style characters i was suprised about how goo this ken was

Thanks and yes i have a list of characters that i want to make...let me show you guys...

MY LIST:
MSHVSF/MVC2 Characters
-Cyclops
-Ken
-Magneto
-Spider-Man
-Dr. Doom
-Guile
-Kyosuke (From CVS2)
-Dan
-Onslaught
-Colossus
-Terry (From CVS2)
-Captain America
-Iceman
-Cyber Akuma
-Fei-Long
-Megaman
More to come just thinking of who

Other Characters
-Spawn
-Sub-Zero (UMK3)
-Scorpion (UMK3)
-Ibuki (SF3)
-Gill (SF3) he's a maybe

So yeah thats my list.

man i think u should go for mvc2 ryu or akuma the mugen world is really in need of these character
the 2 most important mvc2 characters havent been made yet

[Reza]

he's a fun character sofar. lots need to be fixed, but hell, it's a beta.

and yeah, I agree about the AI. cyclops was SO frustrating. I actually had to take that lightning move of his out.

Yeah i working on some fixes and about Cyclops AI yeah he's kinda hard i know i find him hard to beat myself, but don't worry he'll make a comeback and he'll be better and badder.

great job reza ur mvc2 character rivals redhots do u plan on makin anymore mvc2 style characters i was suprised about how goo this ken was

Thanks and yes i have a list of characters that i want to make...let me show you guys...

MY LIST:
MSHVSF/MVC2 Characters
-Cyclops
-Ken
-Magneto
-Spider-Man
-Dr. Doom
-Guile
-Kyosuke (From CVS2)
-Dan
-Onslaught
-Colossus
-Terry (From CVS2)
-Captain America
-Iceman
-Cyber Akuma
-Fei-Long
-Megaman
More to come just thinking of who

Other Characters
-Spawn
-Sub-Zero (UMK3)
-Scorpion (UMK3)
-Ibuki (SF3)
-Gill (SF3) he's a maybe

So yeah thats my list.

man i think u should go for mvc2 ryu or akuma the mugen world is really in need of these character
the 2 most important mvc2 characters havent been made yet

Akuma and Ryu you say...maybe i 'll make them i'm not sure yet, well its because that Kamekaze made Akuma and then theirs Ryu by Limitedmoon.

[SirAnzai]

Mugen doesn't need more Akuma/Ken/Ryu's --;

Plus, there are already MVCish Akuma/Ken/Ryu's anyways.

I do like the idea of MVC Terry though.

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

Mugen doesn't need more Akuma/Ken/Ryu's --;

Plus, there are already MVCish Akuma/Ken/Ryu's anyways.

I do like the idea of MVC Terry though.

yea but that mvc akuma suks bad i dont know y everybody likes um it seems like a rush job and limited moons ryu is getting old not to mention the fact that he does not work well with the mvc patcher if u can make a ken when there are plenty around i think he could do the same wit ryu and akuma i mean there has not been one good mvc2 akuma yet and i theink reza is the right person to do it