Today on Why is It?: Japanese Animation

[Jelux Da Casual]

Ok, just to give you a little background on why I'm doing this:

Over in video games board in the topic "Megaman vs. Megaman X", I belive Asian-Jesus made an assumption that I was a "male anime fan". I can only assume he was including me when he said "(most, if not all, of you)". I, in a lengthy reply, stated why that would not be correct. But after I was done, I got to thinking...

Why is it that Japanese animation, or for the sake (not sa-ke) of saving typing in this little rant, Anime is so highly regarded that it seems to be seperated from any other animation that isn't anime?

I mean, really. Is anime such a deity in it's own right that it need be praised over all other animation from other countries?

Think about this for a moment if you will. The Japanese use the word "anime" as a general term to describe all animation in Japan. Even Disney and other non-Japanese cartoons over there are called anime. However, fans of anime use the term to differentiate it from other animation that exists. They're purposely segregating and separating it from other internationally-made animation by using this word.

Other countries have their own phrases and words for animation, but we don't use country-specific terms to segregate THEM. Titles like Wallace and Grommit, Jane and the Dragon, Babar, Class of the Titans, they aren't placed in country-specific areas in a video section. I should know, I work at (not for) Best Buy doing media vending. They're all in the cartoons, comedy, or family section. Meanwhile, everything that comes out of Japan goes straight to the anime section.

It seems the term "anime" has become too inclusive and segregational (WOOT! Big word bonus for me). When foreigners co-develop or finance productions in Japan, the "otaku" fanbase openly criticizes the "animeness" of the project. They ask if a shows like IGPX or Oban: Star Racers are really an anime even if they were created and financed by an American or a French company or if a show is animated in Japan, is it really an anime.

In my mini-rant in "Megaman vs Megaman X", I mentioned that I grew up watch various cartoons, one of which was Bionic Six. Well, turns out that Bionic Six, as well as a few others were developed by TMS (which once stood for Tokyo Movie Shinsha) exclusively for the North American market. By the definition otakus have for "anime," meaning any animated project created and produced in Japan, these shows SHOULD be classified as such, but they don't recognize Bionic Six or the others as anime.

What am I getting at really? Simply but not so simply put, this:

When all is said and done at the end of the day, anime, well they're just cartoons. Don't get me wrong; they're well-drawn cartoons, but cartoons just the same. To view anime as THE gold standard to everything animated is kind of stupid (Come on, it ain't Mario). To segregate Japanese animation from everything else is also insulting to the creators. It's like they're saying they don't belong with other animators from around the world.

Now I know writing this will solve nothing and the lore of anime isn't going to just dissappear, but there should be an end to the barrier the otaku has placed on Japanese animation because it truly doesn't exist. Japanese animation isn't any better or any worse than any other types of animation that exists in the world. Anime is Japanese animation. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, to anybody that actually read this WHOLE thing, wow. You have both stamina and patience, I really can't ask for anything more than that. Thanks for sitting through this exhale of mine but more importantly, what do YOU think about what I had to say?

[MaverickZr0]

I dunno man, but apparently it's wrong to like Japanese cartoons.

[Scar]

Wow thats of reading.

To me japanese cartoons are way better than the american cartoon for various reasons.

The animation is way more detailed and they elaborate more into the story.

American cartoons have always been stuck into their 30min template of starting and ending the episode in that time frame.

Like the main character gets in trouble and they solve the problem in one episode.

I mean they shorten the whole thing into meaningless animation.

In the other hand japanese cartoons are more set up like soap operas..

You cant wait for the next episode to see whether your favorite character will live or die..

Oh now that i mention it, the violence is way better than american cartoons.

Thats my reason why I love watching "Anime" or any other animation..

[Ryu # 20]

Wow thats of reading.

To me japanese cartoons are way better than the american cartoon for various reasons.

The animation is way more detailed and they elaborate more into the story.

American cartoons have always been stuck into their 30min template of starting and ending the episode in that time frame.

Like the main character gets in trouble and they solve the problem in one episode.

I mean they shorten the whole thing into meaningless animation.

In the other hand japanese cartoons are more set up like soap operas..

You cant wait for the next episode to see whether your favorite character will live or die..

Oh now that i mention it, the violence is way better than american cartoons.

Thats my reason why I love watching "Anime" or any other animation..

  QFT. Need I say more?

All my life I watched non-Japanese cartoons and it was always the same thing: Either superheroes (Marvel or WB's Batman or Superman), kids or other characters(like Magic School Bus, Babar or Wallace and Grommit) always getting in trouble for stupid things and taking half an hour to solve them, PLUS saying "you must/mustn't do this" at the end of every goddamn episode). And trying to stop the bad guys saying "No you're doing wrong!" and always either getting busted or repenting. Not that American cartoons have some good stuff (TMNT classic series, Warner Brothers originals, Hanna-Barbera characters, Biker Mice From Mars, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, Justice Friends, 2 Stupid Dogs, and Nick cartoons like Doug, Rocket Power or Aargh! Real Monsters, etc.), but mostly they were crap.

When I first saw Dragon Ball I remember Goku beating the sh*t out of Piccolo, and I said "Hey! That's the way to stop the bad guys!", and even better with Dragon Ball Z. Plus anime had some sports cartoons (Speed Racer back in the day, Captain Tsubasa, Slam Dunk) better made than americans (although Wacky Races, Harlem Globetrotters and Luff-a-Lympics were awesome), and everyday life situations (or similar) with normal people instead of little kids giving stupid morality lessons (Ranma 1/2 might be a good example of what I'm referring to, same as Meitantei Conan or You're Under Arrest!).

PLUS, Japanese fiction is a lot more varied than American fiction cartoons. You got Medieval things like Slayers, ninja/samurai like Samurai X, Samurai Warriors or Inu Yasha, and futuristic stuff like Evangelion, which also have richer messages than american cartoons. And Japanese can portray the western world, whereas America can only stick to itself.

And that's my modest opinion. I haven't flamed anybody, so I don't want people flaming me. I, as well as you Americans, live in democracy and I know freedom of speech. I can express my opinion as long as I don't insult other people. Just a matter of taste, that's all.

[Theendgamelv3]

Other countries have their own phrases and words for animation, but we don't use country-specific terms to segregate THEM. Titles like Wallace and Grommit, Jane and the Dragon, Babar, Class of the Titans, they aren't placed in country-specific areas in a video section. I should know, I work at (not for) Best Buy doing media vending. They're all in the cartoons, comedy, or family section. Meanwhile, everything that comes out of Japan goes straight to the anime section.

I dare you to name 20 or more cartoons from Britain or Canada or from Russia or any other country outside Japan that releases stuff in the US. The reason why it has its own section is because Anime has so many releases and not all anime is kid friendly. I don't know about you, but I think Parents would be upset to see stuff like Ninja Scroll in the cartoon section cause they think it might be Family friendly to not only realize it has blood and death, but it has nudity, sex and rape (no it isn't anime porn aka hentai).  Is South Park in the cartoon section? What about the Simpsons? Family Guy? The are not apart of the Cartoon section, but the TV section. Hold on, these are cartoons are they not? The reason why it is seperated, it is easier for the shopper and the other reasons that I stated. It isn't because anime is on another level or anything. If Canada or Britain can fill up a section, by all means, it should have its own section.

Anime is highly regarded cause it isn't just for kids or if it is for adults, it isn't just comedy. I can't name no more then 6-7 American cartoons that is made for a older and that isn't comedy. Anime like Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, Gunslinger Girl, etc. aren't for kids nor could they wrapped their heads around some of the situations in these shows. Anime is very diverse, anyone could like anything from anime if they look.

Think about this for a moment if you will. The Japanese use the word "anime" as a general term to describe all animation in Japan. Even Disney and other non-Japanese cartoons over there are called anime. However, fans of anime use the term to differentiate it from other animation that exists. They're purposely segregating and separating it from other internationally-made animation by using this word.

Yea that is the Japanese, I know how they use the word, but that isn't how I use it or grew up using it. Anime fans have been doing this for awhile, a LONG time. They too grew up doing this as well. It is easier on us in general to know what we're talking about and not group it in with US animation. If it is British cartoon, I would said British animation, with S.Korea, I say Korean animation or Korean anime (yes I have heard people call Korean animation Korean anime). To some people, Japanese anime is better, there is nothing wrong with that. The separation of anime and other forms of animation (mainly US animation) is just to make things easier. I know some people who say the word anime (even on this board) to refer to Japanese Animation and I doubt they think it is better or a higher standard. It makes things easier on everyone cause Anime has soo many releases and is exported so much. Basically it is American Animation or Japanese anime in the world. Yes there are international releases, but they don't get the love affair that anime or American Cartoons get and to help differ them out, we fans say anime for Japanese animation and cartoons for western cartoons (mainly us cartoons). Are there shows that blur the line, you bet, but it isn't very often.

[DMP]

All you have to do is watch a regular cartoon and then watch an anime cartoon and you will clearly see the difference

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

its not wrong to like anime but some ppl take it to far. i mean come on anime makes ppl wish they were japanese for example we were in history class last year and we were naming countrys and when ppl said america it was just like america wasnt crap but when  they named japan all the anime fans raised there hands in a fist as if they were from japan and they are white and im just thinkin wtf. and plus anime is like not really anything to be obssessed with really its just a cartoon like any other cartoon that comes on.

[Ryu # 20]

its not wrong to like anime but some ppl take it to far. i mean come on anime makes ppl wish they were japanese for example we were in history class last year and we were naming countrys and when ppl said america it was just like america wasnt sh*t but when  they named japan all the anime fans raised there hands in a fist as if they were from japan and they are white and im just thinkin wtf. and plus anime is like not really anything to be obssessed with really its just a cartoon like any other cartoon that comes on.

Maybe you're right, but admiring a country different than yours is independent from anime. For example, I wish I was American. The bag where I carry my college stuff has a Great Seal of the United States of America medallion on it. Plus I wear an American flag buckled-belt everyday.

[[Asian-Jesus]]

its not wrong to like anime but some ppl take it to far. i mean come on anime makes ppl wish they were japanese for example we were in history class last year and we were naming countrys and when ppl said america it was just like america wasnt sh*t but when  they named japan all the anime fans raised there hands in a fist as if they were from japan and they are white and im just thinkin wtf. and plus anime is like not really anything to be obssessed with really its just a cartoon like any other cartoon that comes on.

Maybe you're right, but admiring a country different than yours is independent from anime. For example, I wish I was American. The bag where I carry my college stuff has a Great Seal of the United States of America medallion on it. Plus I wear an American flag buckled-belt everyday.

Actually, he's not talking about the ones who admire Japan. He's talking about the ones who really do act like they're japanese. And trust me, they ARE out there. He knows where I'm coming from with this too.

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

its not wrong to like anime but some ppl take it to far. i mean come on anime makes ppl wish they were japanese for example we were in history class last year and we were naming countrys and when ppl said america it was just like america wasnt sh*t but when  they named japan all the anime fans raised there hands in a fist as if they were from japan and they are white and im just thinkin wtf. and plus anime is like not really anything to be obssessed with really its just a cartoon like any other cartoon that comes on.

Maybe you're right, but admiring a country different than yours is independent from anime. For example, I wish I was American. The bag where I carry my college stuff has a Great Seal of the United States of America medallion on it. Plus I wear an American flag buckled-belt everyday.

asian jesus is right and im not talking about admiring im talkin bout raising there hands in a fist as if thats there home country. but when they said america they didnt even look up from there anime books. and i dont mean to call anyone out or to be an butt hole but than u get ppl like that one guy that was on this forum who wanted to marry a anime doll and have sex with a anime doll and set the robot into moan mode.

[Jelux Da Casual]

Wow, seems I've really gone and done it this time. Hey, I can't rag on anyone's opinions cause well, everything on "Why is It?" IS my opinion. I CAN however counter-point.

Theendgamelv3 said, "Parents would be upset to see stuff like Ninja Scroll in the cartoon section cause they think it might be Family friendly to not only realize it has blood and death, but it has nudity, sex and rape (no it isn't anime porn aka hentai).  Is South Park in the cartoon section? What about the Simpsons? Family Guy? The are not apart of the Cartoon section, but the TV section. Hold on, these are cartoons are they not? The reason why it is seperated, it is easier for the shopper and the other reasons that I stated."

Well, for starters, there really is no "Cartoon" section, because like you said, it's all grouped differently, TV, Comedy, Action, what have you. The same could be said about anime. Not all anime is created on the same maturity level.

Let pretend for a moment anime was treated as the rest of the animation industry. I would expect to find anime aimed at the child demographic in the children's section, with the rest of cartoons for kids. Comedic anime in comedy. Anime that aired first on TV before brought to DVD in television. The others like Ninja Scroll in Action, Drama, Sci-Fi, Horror, etc.

But since all anime is grouped together, parents aren't gonna have a clue what anime is what unless they've seen it for themselves or take the time to inspect the DVD case and make a judgement call. BTW, if any parent couldn't tell Ninja Scroll is not for kids by just looking at the case, they fail at parenting. I mean, come on really?

On an exaggerated note, that seems kinda racist. It's like they're taking the "all asians look the same" card and applying it to anime when, as you've clearly stated and I agree, they're not.

 I can ALSO elaborate.

Nutpatch said, "It's not wrong to like anime but some ppl take it to far."

I cannot agree more with this statement. Like I said, I got out of my way to watch bleach (By actually going to dattebayo.com and getting the epis via torrent, instead of streaming them to a .flv streming site, cough cough), but I don't obsess over it. Real life continues outside of Anime and Japan, but most otaku can't fathom that. Three of my friends recently got back from Japan, one of which is my roommate, and let me tell you, I'm glad I didn't go. No, it's not that I wouldn't have had a good time, they had a blast. But now my roommate has Jap-withdrawl.

All he does is sit in his room all day watch Japanese variety comedy shows off youtube. And it's not like he understands what they're saying. He sold his 360, his PS3, and his 48" DLP so he can pay off his credit cards and save up till next year so he can go again, blow all of his money and more, and come back with a $#!7-ton of SWAG and be in debt again. If I went, I might have ended up the same way.

[Jelux Da Casual]

Oh snap, double post.....

Gotta rock the copypasta a bit here with this:

Taken from "Megaman vs Megaman X" thread - "Anime is only as big as it is for two reasons:

1) Home country support- Almost everyone in Japan watches anime, young and old, male and female, and they're not ashamed to tell you. On other hand here in the US, cartoons for the most part are labeled as child entertainment because you need to "grow up and stop watching kiddy stuff", and most adults that DO still watch cartoons won't openly admit it. That and the fact the America is completely fascinated with CGI and 3D, so much so that the standard animation market is for the most part dead as a viable entainment media source for the general audience. something people would wanna actually pay to see.

2) The internet- I'm not even going to say anything because I honestly don't have to."

more Pasta de Copy - "If it can't catch my interest, I don't watch. Aside from what I used to watch on Adult swim when I had CN, that was the only anime I watched, and it was only cause it was easy to watch, and even then if I didn't like it (Witch Hunter Robin, Wolf's Rain, Trinity Blood just to name a few), I flipped the tv to something else."

[[Asian-Jesus]]

Dude (Lux) your roomie is just retarded. Seriously.

And about the whole "everyone watches anime in japan" thing, for the most part that IS true. However, there are many people that don't watch it at all. Some people openly admit it, while most who watch it too much don't out of fear of being labeled "otaku." America isn't the only one to embrace CGI and 3D stuff. Many animators are up for moving from handdrawn to CGI anime. While at the same time, just as many animators are against it. In my opinion, CGI animation seems like the best route to go with the whole genre now, as many of the big special effects you see in handdrawn stuff has already been done, while with CGI there's a whole new plane of effects to use. For example, Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo was made for the most part using technology, and it looks absolutely AMAZING. You can't get that kind of style using traditional handdrawn cels.

  There's this 14 year old from Florida who's bashed anime from before 2002 because the animation was "garbage." That little bunghole is just ignorant to the better anime shows out there. Not the almost-hentai shows he watches.

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

if ur on the level where u would have sex wit a anime doll and marry one thats where u need to take a break from anime.

[KPT25]

if ur on the level where u would have sex wit a anime doll and marry one thats where u need to take a break from anime.

...that would just cross another level...Regarding japanese vs US(and the rest of the world) animation,the anime has the upper hand so far,in matter of genre,sometimes design and sometimes plot(trust me when i believe that an episode of Ben 10 might have had better plot than an episode of Beyblade...why the hell did i watched that???)

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

if ur on the level where u would have sex wit a anime doll and marry one thats where u need to take a break from anime.

...that would just cross another level...Regarding japanese vs US(and the rest of the world) animation,the anime has the upper hand so far,in matter of genre,sometimes design and sometimes plot(trust me when i believe that an episode of Ben 10 might have had better plot than an episode of Beyblade...why the hell did i watched that???)

LMAO beyblade that had to be the single most retarted show ever who would make a show about spinner tops. know wonder why that series went no where.

[Theendgamelv3]

Well, for starters, there really is no "Cartoon" section, because like you said, it's all grouped differently, TV, Comedy, Action, what have you. The same could be said about anime. Not all anime is created on the same maturity level.

Let pretend for a moment anime was treated as the rest of the animation industry. I would expect to find anime aimed at the child demographic in the children's section, with the rest of cartoons for kids. Comedic anime in comedy. Anime that aired first on TV before brought to DVD in television. The others like Ninja Scroll in Action, Drama, Sci-Fi, Horror, etc.

Anime for the most part, of its unedited content, isn't for kids in the US even Naruto (why else would it have to be edited to show on TV). I myself do believe Naruto even unedited can be shown to kids just fine as it is made for kids in Japan. Yes, a parent could easily find a anime that is unsuitable.

In US companies eyes, Anime is considered a different genre, hence its own section. Can you really put the blame on anime fans for this, or the companies who set it that way? I find how it is now, MUCH easier as the anime is all in one place. I don't have shift through all the comedy, sci fi movies and shows to find 2-4 anime that fit the genre and then walk to another section to find another anime. You can say "why be lazy?", but I can say "why not be more efficient and place all the anime together". All anime is one spot isn't putting anime on a different level, it just makes things easier. Anime might be diverse, but it isn't to the point where its genres can rival the amounts of shows past and present the US has released. Some stores have international/forgin section, anime could be put there. International/foregin movies have different genres, but why put them with their appropriate genres? Cause some people like foregin movies, hence grouping them together, makes it easier. If I am gonna look for anime, I look for anime and this is what most people do. I don't understand why this part of this should be even debated.

Ok you have problems with fans who are too obsessive. You posed questions to anime fans in general when you are trying to target the way obsessive fans it seems. You're gonna have fans who will view their favorite thing (anime being in this case) as the greatest stuff ever and can't live without it. There are rational fans who view anime as the gold standard and think American Cartoons can't keep up.

[Nutty-Da-Kid]

Well, for starters, there really is no "Cartoon" section, because like you said, it's all grouped differently, TV, Comedy, Action, what have you. The same could be said about anime. Not all anime is created on the same maturity level.

Let pretend for a moment anime was treated as the rest of the animation industry. I would expect to find anime aimed at the child demographic in the children's section, with the rest of cartoons for kids. Comedic anime in comedy. Anime that aired first on TV before brought to DVD in television. The others like Ninja Scroll in Action, Drama, Sci-Fi, Horror, etc.

Anime for the most part, of its unedited content, isn't for kids in the US even Naruto (why else would it have to be edited to show on TV). I myself do believe Naruto even unedited can be shown to kids just fine as it is made for kids in Japan. Yes, a parent could easily find a anime that is unsuitable.

In US companies eyes, Anime is considered a different genre, hence its own section. Can you really put the blame on anime fans for this, or the companies who set it that way? I find how it is now, MUCH easier as the anime is all in one place. I don't have shift through all the comedy, sci fi movies and shows to find 2-4 anime that fit the genre and then walk to another section to find another anime. You can say "why be lazy?", but I can say "why not be more efficient and place all the anime together". All anime is one spot isn't putting anime on a different level, it just makes things easier. Anime might be diverse, but it isn't to the point where its genres can rival the amounts of shows past and present the US has released. Some stores have international/forgin section, anime could be put there. International/foregin movies have different genres, but why put them with their appropriate genres? Cause some people like foregin movies, hence grouping them together, makes it easier. If I am gonna look for anime, I look for anime and this is what most people do. I don't understand why this part of this should be even debated.

Ok you have problems with fans who are too obsessive. You posed questions to anime fans in general when you are trying to target the way obsessive fans it seems. You're gonna have fans who will view their favorite thing (anime being in this case) as the greatest stuff ever and can't live without it. There are rational fans who view anime as the gold standard and think American Cartoons can't keep up.

true but some ppl take it out of anime by wearing japanese clothes and even trying to change there name to a japanese one. now anime is changing ppls culture or at least the obssesive ones.

[Ryu # 20]

Nutpatch said, "It's not wrong to like anime but some ppl take it to far."

I cannot agree more with this statement. Like I said, I got out of my way to watch bleach (By actually going to dattebayo.com and getting the epis via torrent, instead of streaming them to a .flv streming site, cough cough), but I don't obsess over it. Real life continues outside of Anime and Japan, but most otaku can't fathom that. Three of my friends recently got back from Japan, one of which is my roommate, and let me tell you, I'm glad I didn't go. No, it's not that I wouldn't have had a good time, they had a blast. But now my roommate has Jap-withdrawl.

All he does is sit in his room all day watch Japanese variety comedy shows off youtube. And it's not like he understands what they're saying. He sold his 360, his PS3, and his 48" DLP so he can pay off his credit cards and save up till next year so he can go again, blow all of his money and more, and come back with a $#!7-ton of SWAG and be in debt again. If I went, I might have ended up the same way.

Then why do you need to bash on anime? There are crazy people all around America - and the rest of the world of course - who don't necessarily watch anime. You're talking about obsessed fans but started this whole thread bashing on anime.

Ok you have problems with fans who are too obsessive. You posed questions to anime fans in general when you are trying to target the way obsessive fans it seems. You're gonna have fans who will view their favorite thing (anime being in this case) as the greatest stuff ever and can't live without it. There are rational fans who view anime as the gold standard and think American Cartoons can't keep up.

QFT . And I'm one of them.

if ur on the level where u would have sex wit a anime doll and marry one thats where u need to take a break from anime.

That's a-going too far. I find Rei Ayanami from Evangelion cute but I know she's only a character. However I had a schoolmate who looked the same, although her hair was blonde instead of grey. And another one who looked as Asuka as well (same blonde hair, same blue eyes, same psychotic b*ch-butt attiude, but she was taller and had a larger body. Anyways remember I'm not really looking for sex right now. ).

[KPT25]

Well...it seems that you watched Evangelion too many times 
Anyway,US animation needs to be more creative,instead of making a retro-styled new batman show with 2 sidekicks or stop giving 10 year old boys strange power:that has been done thousands of times...
Hell,Death Note is one of the perfect examples of an anime not suitable for children that everyone mature can enjoy 

  i need to watch the last episodes today,even though i know what,i need to know how it happens

[MaverickZr0]

   I see kids at school all the time trying to look like L, and act like Light.

[Theendgamelv3]

true but some ppl take it out of anime by wearing japanese clothes and even trying to change there name to a japanese one. now anime is changing ppls culture or at least the obssesive ones.

Well it isn't anime's fault that people are like that. That is like saying video games changed some kids into killing people. Anime fans could be worse, they could be sports fans and start riots, chuck batteries at opposing teams, or worse yet, attack and kill eachother cause they hate the opposing teams fans.

[[Asian-Jesus]]

true but some ppl take it out of anime by wearing japanese clothes and even trying to change there name to a japanese one. now anime is changing ppls culture or at least the obssesive ones.

Well it isn't anime's fault that people are like that. That is like saying video games changed some kids into killing people. Anime fans could be worse, they could be sports fans and start riots, chuck batteries at opposing teams, or worse yet, attack and kill eachother cause they hate the opposing teams fans.

There's no point in trying to argue this since it is something you're not really familiar with.

[Theendgamelv3]

I am not being familiar with being a sports fan? Trust me when I say this, if that is what you are implying, I have MORE than enough evidence to back up MY claim about the few crazy sports fans. I wouldn't state such a thing if I am not prepared to back it up. Seriously if you are gonna make that kind of a statement, might as well spit out why you won't bother arguing it. What I said is true, anime doesn't make some anime fans at the way they do. They were always mental in some way. If it wasn't anime they were gonna go gaga stupid over, it would have Star Wars or Star Trek or something else. Shall I point to the many examples of people obsessing over MMOs and staying on them forever? Who isn't to say that if they didn't become obsessed playing a MMO, that they wouldn't be obsessed over anime? There are always weird and way out there fans in EVERY fandom.  I see why mods warn you about your attitude.

[[Asian-Jesus]]

I am not being familiar with being a sports fan? Trust me when I say this, if that is what you are implying, I have MORE than enough evidence to back up MY claim about the few crazy sports fans. I wouldn't state such a thing if I am not prepared to back it up. Seriously if you are gonna make that kind of a statement, might as well spit out why you won't bother arguing it. What I said is true, anime doesn't make some anime fans at the way they do. They were always mental in some way. If it wasn't anime they were gonna go gaga stupid over, it would have Star Wars or Star Trek or something else. There are always weird and way out there fans in EVERY fandom.  I see why mods warn you about your attitude.

Way to be elitist over my attitude. FYI, I was never warned. It was just one guy saying stuff. way to take debating on the internet to a whole new level.