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Jean Grey Beta 1
« on: May 11, 2010, 02:58:57 PM »
Jean Grey Beta Char ...  

I could not upload the video because it takes much, so much he commissioned someone to upload and submit on this subject or on the portal home ...

  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8HALSOHZ
 
Many editions of Jean Grey seemed dire and exaggerated, so I gave myself the task of editing it to my liking, respecting the MvC style.

The first part took place Vagopublico (first editor), whom I thank all the trouble you took

What is new:
-6 Strikers (Jubilee, Cyclops, Rogue, Storm, Wolverine and Psylocke)
-An attack adapted from another edition of Jean (Cidlover)
-New sounds

However, this completely redesigned (until the final version will finish), plus, add missing Psyocke attack and special effects (the Big X) ... a rather original ending ...

This edition is free, and if you decide to finish editing, just ask you to send me a copy of your creation.
 


Agradeze their opinions and criticisms.
Greetings, babies

Expect more and better updates ...


« Last Edit: May 11, 2010, 03:11:47 PM by joancarlo »



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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 03:07:47 PM »
well, can you atleast show us a screenshot?

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 03:52:58 PM »
Only difference I see is that her hair is longer.

Why not put her in her green suit?

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 04:35:49 PM »
Only difference I see is that her hair is longer.

Why not put her in her green suit?
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 05:30:35 PM »
I'd be more than happy to help sprite the suit.

Just PM me the sprites on a sheet and I can edit them

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 10:16:02 PM »
or..you can put her in her old school X-Men costume aswell...i think it would fit her perfectly
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 09:45:32 PM »
Put her in the costume thats in your avatar that would be really unique.

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2010, 10:19:34 PM »
off - i hope the Sic-1 break could be so long like balooloo (already back? re-instaled mugen?)

6 - Strikes??? so much. jean is one of more powerful mutants, she dont need help....

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 01:11:25 AM »
off - i hope the Sic-1 break could be so long like balooloo (already back? re-instaled mugen?)

6 - Strikes??? so much. jean is one of more powerful mutants, she dont need help....
I agree with ZV. Maybe limit it to 1 striker or just remove them all

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 01:46:42 PM »
I agree with ZV. Maybe limit it to 1 striker or just remove them all

I agree with what they want. However, my char focuses on Jean Grey, before becoming the Phoenix. The green suit!? Sorry, I do not have enough time to draw, so I settle for the "old school". The long hair you draw will finish in the Beta 2. I know I should have posted a video or pictures, but the next time I'll ...

They told me to put you fire attacks, but that would mimic the work of other authors, particularly Legend Kaos (CVG United). so maybe not.
take into account the limit assistants (one or two per match).
We'll add telekinetic, telepathic and psychic attacks!

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 06:42:18 PM »
Nice trying to be original.
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 06:58:33 PM »
I agree with what they want. However, my char focuses on Jean Grey, before becoming the Phoenix. The green suit!? Sorry, I do not have enough time to draw, so I settle for the "old school". The long hair you draw will finish in the Beta 2. I know I should have posted a video or pictures, but the next time I'll ...

They told me to put you fire attacks, but that would mimic the work of other authors, particularly Legend Kaos (CVG United). so maybe not.
take into account the limit assistants (one or two per match).
We'll add telekinetic, telepathic and psychic attacks!

Greetings!!!

I APPROVE. JEAN GREY WAS WELL ESTABLISHED BEFORE PHOENIX, AND WELL AFTER. WHY NOT HAVE A STRAIGHT UP JEAN? DO WANT.
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 02:52:30 PM »
I want to announce that in these days throw the Beta 2, a new topic, which I hope you will enjoy it. Stay tuned!

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 05:50:49 PM »
you need to add supers and hypers

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2010, 06:51:13 PM »
Some slight suggestions for updated moves.

1. Flight mode - For example Magneto with the shield outline.
2. Confushion - Make's an opponets command different.
3. X-Help Hyper 1 (Team) - Cyclops, Ice Man, Beast, Angel - All come out and perform Hyper Special to finish off opponet.
4. X-Help Hyper 2 (Black Out!)- Professor X - Team Up to disable opponet's power grid so they can't do any specials or hypers.
5. Psyhic Blast - Jean fire's off a ball of energy rather than a beam that makes an opponet stand still.
6. I'm Marvel Girl - Jean Grey in her original Green Outfit does a mimic of Jin's mechanical arm punch, but with psyhic energy. (Outfit subject to taste. Modern to Classic).
7. Dark Phoneix mode - when Jean reaches 1/4 of life bar enter code to become dark phoneix with power level at full with up to 3 new specials for the character or do 1 firebird to finish off opponet.

Feel free to add or make new suggestions.

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 10:21:49 AM »
Confusion and Black Out sound too cheap. Maybe change Confusion and Psychic Blast to make the opponent play their stunned/dizzy animation instead.

Also maybe have Dark Phoenix mode as a hyper instead like Ms Marvel's Warbird hyper

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 11:54:44 AM »
I'm concerned that all those strikers are excuses for not developing special moves.

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2010, 12:24:33 PM »
I must say that I am usually not a big fan of strikers. It usually means the character lacks substance & at times can be pretty cheap.   
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2010, 12:36:20 PM »
I must say that I am usually not a big fan of strikers. It usually means the character lacks substance & at times can be pretty cheap.   

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 01:52:38 PM »
I must say that I am usually not a big fan of strikers. It usually means the character lacks substance & at times can be pretty cheap.   

well it is understandable why they would be there since it is the first version. its just to get a beta out and see what people think while at the same time fixing the obvious things. Im sure he doesnt intend on leaving them there
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2010, 05:56:47 PM »
Why not go though the Wiki page or something for more info on Jean's powers. Could help to make more moves, thus filling in for those strikers

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2010, 07:22:02 PM »
joancarlo, thank you very much, to do something for jean gray, because the version he had, it was rogue, with other clothing, a question this is the same version that was delivered in cvg.united, or is it, and looking forward to the version beta 2, thank you very much.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 01:42:09 PM »
Hello! I present the video of what is now the Beta 2 of my char, Jean Grey. No sooner do some more adjustments, will be available on this topic. Please be patient ...

I must confess that I felt so attacked by the comments against my edit, however I do not I will focus on the strikers, but Jean Grey, but not in Phoenix. And if, as has been presented in CVG site.


News:
-News Helpers (Colossus, Iceman)
-Now the helpers come in shifts and not all at once, as in beta 1
-The Psy Blades attack of Psylocke
-A new win pose (no seen in the video): "Easy Win" by Rogue
-Pink palFX in the "Mind Blast" of Jean
-The big X effect
« Last Edit: July 16, 2010, 01:04:02 PM by joancarlo »

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2010, 01:34:13 AM »
That's a pretty sweet version of Jean Grey. I currently have your previous one in my roster, but it looks like you have made some awesome improvements. Here's to looking forward to your progress.  :w00t:

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 04:01:20 PM »
Needless to say, the first modification, based on the authentic and original char by Comedy Haha and Hsieh was not made by me but by Vagopublico.

Helpers and other details were mine.

I'll give details of any progress when the beta 2 release.
And after that, followed by the beta 3!

It is also necessary to obtain legal permission of the author Reza, since unknowingly collaborate on the release of this char. I do not want to be end up being a warez or illegal char.

be patient, please
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2010, 05:02:05 PM »
Thanks for the update. I look forward to beta the 2 release.   :thumbsup:
                                                                                        
                                                  

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 07:24:54 PM »
hmmm very cool 8)
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2010, 07:28:06 PM »
it looks great. but are you going to keep the helpers? I personally dont think she needs them. kinda detracts from the character
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2010, 08:41:52 PM »
From one test run.
- Intro needs improvement on anims.
- So does stand C.
- Priorities on all basics but stand X (this counts air basics).
- QCF+2P could be lowered by 100 damage.
- No hitsounds or slide sounds on QCF+K.
- QCF+2K could be lowered by 120 damage.
- DP+P moves listed in CMD do not work.
- QCB+K moves listed in CMD do not work.
- F,F+K moves do not either.
- Blue CLSNs on arm during air Y last longer than attack.
- Stand A is too fast.
- Stand C is not smooth at all.
- Stand Z/crouch Z can be an infinite with proper timing (easier with crouch Z).
- Rehap/Comedy Haha's files still included.
- Ground to air comboing is sort of awkward given her launcher is stand C.
- F+Z misses at close range.
- Air comboing is sort of awkward since hitting Z essentially ends it.
- Dash anim needs touching up.
- Infinite with F+mash X in corner.


Infinite with stand Z (this one requires some timing to do).


Infinite with crouch Z (this one is very easy to do; get opponent into corner and mash Z while crouching).


Infinite with F+mashing X in a corner (this one takes a while).

....this isn't Rehap's original you posted is it? Everything I posted could apply to Rehap and Comedy Haha's original, except this one has a bit better CLSNs (like no WTF high kick CLSNs on stand A, which was a low knee attack).
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2010, 01:55:54 PM »
 <_<|...|Mmm ... promise to correct all these errors, plus a bug that has (when called Jubilee, Jean is multiplied if both are beaten, perhaps you may have noticed and that is my main concern.

On the other hand, the great challenge that presents Jean is the lack of sprites in various groups and I'm not a big spriter. I could only draw the sprites of the attack "Psy Blades" to adapt to Jean.

As helpers, you just add them to Gambit, to complete the team and after that seeketh the form of limit. It's a promise!

I have also planned to place a Supermoves whit Cable (rain of asteroids + attack "Viper Blast"). In addition to other Supermoves as "Dark Phoenix". And "Malestrom" de Psylocke!!

It is clear that not pretend importande add fire attacks that correspond to Phoenix, I will focus only on what would Jean Grey, simply. And the character should not be considered as a work of mine, but a free upgrade. of Fans for Fans!

I take this opportunity to ask the authors of "Emma Frost" :DB:, allow me to adapt a telepathic attack, as has that char.

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2010, 03:05:50 PM »


it si the video for Beta 2, in the CVG united site!!!!

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2010, 03:56:55 PM »
She seems extremely overpowered.  @-)

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2010, 06:47:35 PM »
She seems extremely overpowered.  @-)
damn right, but really well done on the outcome of the character, just need to adjust the settings for some things, it just needs to tone down a little especially with the hitdefs, as jean grey herself isn't that powerful, but when the phoenix kicks in she is almighty

some suggestions
* phoenix hyper= needs to be for a level 3 only (it needs to stay powerful, but also needs to cost too)
* psy-blade move= needs to be more unique for jean grey (she doesn't do that in the comics anyways) i would delete it
* the tele-blast =(looks too much like cyclop's optic blast) maybe color it pink and/or get a different animation for it (psylocke butterfly blast, suits telepaths better) lower the hitdef and make player 2 go dizzy from it (if possible)
* should make a move consisting of the shield covering jean grey for a counter, then a helper comes to save her an takes out player2 or you can make the helper cost 500 energy/power, they seem too easy to use
* make a special out of the telekinetic rock throw hyper that's there, (instead of the psy-blade)
these suggestions should make her more unique towards jean grey from the comics
just remember she is telekinetic with a dash of telepathy, prof x is the almighty telepath

p.s if this was helpful, can you make a helper for angel for it too, thanks juancarlo


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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2010, 06:50:16 PM »
and dont forget to sycronize your helpers...


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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2010, 06:53:09 PM »
Yeah. Way too many helpers. But I still like it. Can't wait for more updates

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2010, 06:53:57 PM »
damn right, but really well done on the outcome of the character, just need to adjust the settings for some things, it just needs to tone down a little especially with the hitdefs, as jean grey herself isn't that powerful, but when the phoenix kicks in she is almighty

some suggestions
* phoenix hyper= needs to be for a level 3 only (it needs to stay powerful, but also needs to cost too)
* psy-blade move= needs to be more unique for jean grey (she doesn't do that in the comics anyways) i would delete it
* the tele-blast =(looks too much like cyclop's optic blast) maybe color it pink and/or get a different animation for it (psylocke butterfly blast, suits telepaths better) lower the hitdef and make player 2 go dizzy from it (if possible)
* should make a move consisting of the shield covering jean grey for a counter, then a helper comes to save her an takes out player2 or you can make the helper cost 500 energy/power, they seem too easy to use
* make a special out of the telekinetic rock throw hyper that's there, (instead of the psy-blade)
these suggestions should make her more unique towards jean grey from the comics
just remember she is telekinetic with a dash of telepathy, prof x is the almighty telepath

p.s if this was helpful, can you make a helper for angel for it too, thanks juancarlo




oh yeah and a hyper that has first class (angel,cyclops,iceman and beast in it (just like mr fantasitic's F4 hyper)

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2010, 12:05:30 PM »
Thanks for your comments. But I must remind you that anything I do not intend to focus on Phoenix :DxDie, so you may not see more fire attack that the "Hyper Phoenix" (I'm phoenix). Although I may change my mind.

Femmril, a guy I met in the forums, I will help correct the bugs of all the helpers, especially Jubilee and Cyclops. I have planned to complete the number of helpers with Gambit, but it seems that some people want more assistants, hehe.
Also, thinking of those who scream because they do not like helpers, makes them optional on. Def. (In fact, could be done from the beginning).

Do not ask me to take away the attack Psylocke PsyBlades of Jean Grey, not exceeding two months drawing by hand, imitating the style of ComedyHAHA more, on a whim to ask me to remove or not doing.


I have planned to release more updates to the beta 2, to reach the beta 3, which will be final.

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Gracias por sus comentarios. Sin embargo quiero recordarles que no pretendo para nada enfocarme en Phoenix, de modo tal vez no vean mas ataque de fuego que el "Hyper Phoenix" (i'm phoenix). Aunque tal vez yo cambie de opinion.

Femmril, un chavo que conoci en los foros, me va a ayudar a corregir los bugs de todos lo helpers, especialmente de Jubilee y de Cyclops. Tengo planeado terminar la serie de helpers con Gambit, aunque parece que hay quien quiere mas ayudantes, jeje.
Tambien, pensando en aquellos que chillan porque no les gustan los helpers, los hare opcionales en el .def. (de hecho, se podia hacer desde un principio).

No me pidan que le quite el ataque PsyBlades de Psylocke a Jean Grey, por que no pase dos meses dibujandola a mano, imitando el mas puro estilo de ComedyHAHA, para que por capricho me pidan que lo quite o que no le va.


Tengo planeado lanzar mas actualizaciones de la beta 2, hasta llegar a la beta 3, que sera la definitiva.

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2010, 12:18:34 PM »
 :) joancarlo, asta ahora es la jean grey que mas me gusta y mejor variedad de ataques tiene no le quites ese ataque de psylocke es bueno me gusta solo que podrias averlo hecho de color azulado le veria bien al estilo de jean grey, buena opcion esa del .def me gusta esa idea opcional, aunque yo si prefiero a los helpers..jeje
esperando a la version final del beta3, buen trabajo. =D> =D> =D>
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joancarlo, till now the gray jeans that I like and better variety of attacks has not take off this attack is good I like Psylocke only that it could tap to blue color made him look good in the style of Jean Grey, that's a good option . def optional I like that idea, but I do prefer the helpers .. hehe
waiting for the final version of beta3, good work.
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2010, 12:52:13 PM »
... asta ahora es la jean grey ...
... till now the gray jeans ...
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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2010, 05:06:07 PM »
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Do not ask me to take away the attack Psylocke PsyBlades of Jean Grey, not exceeding two months drawing by hand, imitating the style of ComedyHAHA more, on a whim to ask me to remove or not doing.
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they were only suggestions :cool

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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2010, 07:39:14 PM »
 :-"...
... till now the gray jeans ...

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2010, 03:01:44 PM »
Well that's a good suggestion that I have given elsewhere, that makes a super move where all the helpers attack, but the project is ambitious and concrete do not know if ... Input changes from the beta 2 update to focus on the bugs you have, the total redesign of all sprites and some other attack.

That what they are not finished all the Sprites from the start? Because it was someone's suggestion, not to steal the project before we all know.


Stay tuned!!!

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2010, 09:19:55 PM »
how many people do you have working on jean grey with you ???

im a newb at this and im working on a WIP myself but im not going to post anything until i have something to show. i dont know how to make the constansts, commands or states files and need some tips on how to make a good character...

Hey remember when it wasn't cool to be a geek?

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2010, 11:41:48 PM »
No offense but her hair is a little TOO long

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Re: Jean Grey Beta 1
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2010, 01:12:36 PM »
No offense but her hair is a little TOO long

Mmm ... Look, the truth and I have received comments on the pockets of Jean, who appear and disappear, as well as hair design that does not end because if someone stole my idea before know, had to finish what he had begun. It was just a precaution. In addition to removing the resemblance he had with Rogue and give similarity with the win pose sprites with Cyclops. unfortunately I'm not very good sprite artist and someone wants to make them look more "natural light" Jean's hair, you can do, but until you launch the update. I have received no proposals on this site collaboration, unfortunately.

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