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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2012, 01:01:52 PM »
Do I miss something, or why does everyone have a hatery on Liefield?
Can someone clrea me up there, please?

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2012, 01:51:21 PM »
Do I miss something, or why does everyone have a hatery on Liefield?
Can someone clear me up there, please?
Where to start ...
*He's a terrible writer
*He's a terrible illustrator
*He steals ideas (as seen with his "original character" Smash)

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2012, 02:51:33 PM »
Rob Liefeld got really popular in the early 1990s when he started the first X-Force comic with the recently introduced Cable alonf with his many shoulder pads and large guns. The style fit well with Jim Lee's style which was absolutely the hotest thing in comics at the time. When all the big artists left marvel to start Image Rob was amongst them.

The problem with Liefeld was that his bodies are incredibly, really, really mis-porportioned, all the faces look the same, had adds tons of lines to the body not for shade but for no reason at all and his generic straps and pads were just over the top.



Later in the 1990s Marvel let him do the Captain America reboot (mini series). Below is a drawing of Rob's next to an interpretation of the really bad body porportions showing what Rob's Cap would look like without a shirt on... it really shows how un tallented he is.



When Rob is doing hulking mosters then it turns out good though, but the faces still all look alike.

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2012, 03:01:53 PM »
Not to mention he's a bad writer (as I mentioned)

Youngblood is the ultimate proof of that

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 04:24:59 PM »
Okay, these arguments seem to be legit.
I still don't know, why the thread is called "SMASH!?!?", though...

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2012, 09:03:26 PM »
There are already two Liefeld characters in MUGEN (that I know of, at least): Cable and Deadpool.  Granted, both became interesting under different writers, but the point still stands.  And the way I see it, if I try to make a Liefeld character and mess up horribly, it's no big loss.

And Trinitronity, it's called Smash because the Hulk always says "Hulk smash!".  It's one of his catchphrases.

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2012, 02:50:07 AM »
Oh yeah, now I remember. o.O#

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2012, 12:21:01 PM »
There are already two Liefeld characters in MUGEN (that I know of, at least): Cable and Deadpool.
As you mentioned it was just his appearance that Liefield made, his personality came from better writers (I think Joe Kelley started it if I'm not mistaken)

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2012, 12:46:09 PM »
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*He's a terrible illustrator
Indeed, he is a common joke among the illustrators. Just look at that Captain America's chest.

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2012, 11:18:52 PM »
There is a Liefeld char in Mugen. It's good 'ol Deadpool  :cool

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2012, 02:31:13 AM »
You forgot Cable. He is MUGENized as well.

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2012, 06:45:58 AM »
Oh right. Almost forgot

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2012, 07:57:58 AM »
Rob just designed it and make it ugly, bulky with small feet and a lot of pouch. But through the years other Marvel artists redefined the looks and reimagining the story of Deadpool and Cable. Good thing it's not based Rob's designed when Cable and Deadpool were MUGENized. :cool

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Re: SMASH!?!?
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2012, 04:06:00 PM »
Oh come on, wouldn't you think special moves should always be the choice between GUN and BIGGER GUN?  Who cares that he's telekinetic when he can shoot people?  And there would always have to be a way to hide is feet all the time, and the guns would have to not look like he's actually holding them in any way that makes sense.  And a Liefeld Cable would have to be done with a Hulk base, considering how muscular he is.

But I'd still grab a Liefeld character over some that have been MUGENized.  Cheap characters are the ones I hate.  Personally, I like characters that can conceivably be beaten by the others.  In fact, it would be nice if, with practice, one could beat them with Kung Fu Man.

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