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http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/7/5589310/bruce-lee-is-ea-sports-ufcs-mystery-fighter

Why you ask because well it just seems like gimmick to get people to buy this game, I mean how in the hell do you match his fighting style to ANYONE'S in the UFC? How you simulation his ground work when he really never shown anything of the sort and how could he possibly stack up to some of the new techniques they have?

I don't know maybe it just me but when I seen this I kinda got mad 
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Isn't this a bit... disrespectful? I know you could see it as a tribute, but in a game as this, I don't know... doesn't feel right to have Bruce Lee in this game, even if he "laid the groundwork for modern mixed martial arts."

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it just goes to show what a bunch of ignorant UFC 'fans' you guys are.

Bruce Lee invented MMA and is the Godfather of MMA as even stated by Dana White.

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it just goes to show what a bunch of ignorant UFC 'fans' you guys are.

Bruce Lee invented MMA and is the Godfather of MMA as even stated by Dana White.

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MMA styled fighting(Pankration) has been going down since WAY before Bruce lee stepped in the game hell before he was even born and Bruce's ideas for this type of fighting was more of what the original UFC was but way more brutal and is nothing like it is now where the fighters aren't just masters of one style but multiple styles.

Bruce is one of the best fights EVER and in a stand up match has the power to put any man of any size down but no way he has the ground game fighters have today so why put him in a game where he's nothing like the man that he was but more of a Boss characters who can do things Bruce wouldn't be good at because he's never trained for it?

"If they are adding Bruce Lee and he has as much Techniques as a modern MMA fighter i will put my foot through the screen. I want to see a true representation of Bruce Lee not a modern day fighter with the look of Bruce Lee." Best quote I've ever seen on the subject



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sorry, but I think you are overreacting it. Its just an extra char, and a very good one.

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Bruce Lee invented MMA and is the Godfather of MMA
In your dreams. The idea of a tournament with mixed martial arts was born here in Brazil, with the name Vale Tudo (anything goes) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vale_tudo on early 1900's, with the Gracie family (Carlos and Helio Gracie). Pankration is a different thing, because pankration IS an martial art.

The idea of an octogonal ring was give by Rorion Grace, and it was Royce Gracie who nailed it. He just gone over many fighters and had win UFC 1, 2 and 4. Back on that time, the tournament was not just a single fight like its now (and it sucks).

MMA is one of those things that people think it was invented anywhere, but it was invented here. Another example is the airplane (yeah, Wright brothers are imposters), but this is subject for another topic...

About BL, he had few ground techniques, but it was not his speciality. Why? Because the nature of the Chinese Martial Arts. In China, a downed opponent (specially with his back on the ground) was considered an DEAD opponent, because the horses could run over you at the ground. But this is not true on Japanese Martial Arts, like Judo (which came from Jiu Jitsu).

The only chinese martial art that have an average ground work and techs is caled Shuai Jiao, which resembles Judo (in fact, the opposite).

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I dont see what the problem is, I would rather have Bruce Lee in an MMA game than have Shaq in it...(UFC Undisputed 2010)
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Bruce Lee was all about incorporating ground work.

He even said most fights end up on the ground tournament or no.

There is a reason why he is a legend...study up, I did for years.

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adapts quite a few things which you may end up stronger in based on your body mechanics
tai chi
aikido
judo
wing chun (stand up trapping)
savate
western boxing
kali/escrima etc. etc.

He movie style and actually what he taught are two different animals, but even in his movies his fights would end up on the ground.

So of course nothing is new under the sun, mixing styles is old as the martial art itself.  He just cut out all the hoopla.

He mainstreamed it.  So don't take away his credit.  A public servant, not a king but a teacher I believe he earned it.

Ali didn't invent boxing, but I'll be damned if you make a boxing game without him he brought something unique to it.  He is not the first to dance and jab all day and not the last.  But he owned it.

Maybe you guys are thinking fei long or marshall law is in the game instead.  Now don't get me wrong he ain't Zangeif by no means, but it would be interesting to see what they let him use out of all the techniques.  Probably no bil jee (finger jabs to the eyes) or groin kicks, or forward shin kicks. hmmm maybe you guys are right he might be too brutal for this game.  Make him a secret fighter in Streets of Rage.

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check this out, it might not be as pretty as what you may be accustomed to, but he didn't just do a bunch of flashy jump kicks all the time and this is just a movie






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my opinion is not important, because im not fan of this games, but lol to this comment:
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Bruce Lee was all about incorporating ground work.

He even said most fights end up on the ground tournament or no.

There is a reason why he is a legend...study up, I did for years.

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adapts quite a few things which you may end up stronger in based on your body mechanics
tai chi
aikido
judo
wing chun (stand up trapping)
savate
western boxing
kali/escrima etc. etc.




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"but no way he has the ground game fighters have today so why put him in a game where he's nothing like the man that he was but more of a Boss characters who can do things Bruce wouldn't be good at because he's never trained for it?"

Bruce has never a day in his life trained for the kind of ground game fighters have today which are mostly Gracie trained and more than likely wouldn't be phased by the judo that Bruce knew. So him being able to do this in game seems wrong(to me) because then it's not him. I'd feel the same way if by some weird rule you could now body slam people in boxing and EA came out with another fight night game and Ali now had this skill.

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like I said read up

unless fighters have grown 3 legs or 4 arms.  grappling is still the same.  Only so many ways to mount trap and lock.

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like I said read up

unless fighters have grown 3 legs or 4 arms.  grappling is still the same.  Only so many ways to mount trap and lock.

If you truly believe what you just said then you may want to give it a try because let me tell you there is a VERY big difference, I mean even Paul Vunak(in the video you posted) is using Brazilian jiu jitsu and that's something Bruce Lee has never been formally trained in and is something JKD doesn't utilize(well most users). That's like saying I have mastered kicking and punching so I could hold my own against any style that has to do with kicking and punching.
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like I said read up

unless fighters have grown 3 legs or 4 arms.  grappling is still the same.  Only so many ways to mount trap and lock.

Warecus, no offense, but I think you don't have any idea of what we are talking about...Only so many ways to mount? I stopped with Judo since I was 15 or something like that, but I can still remember at least 10 ways to grab someone.

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I was paraphrasing.

But the basics still work. you are still punching, grabbing, kicking, blah, blah. or more in depth slipping, trapping, hooking, etc. etc.

what it boils down to is they put him the game for a reason.  just don't download him or unlock him.

JKD the concepts are more intricate then you guys are giving it credit for.  But if you don't want to find out for yourselves and just assume you know then it is pointless to continue.

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I was paraphrasing.

But the basics still work. you are still punching, grabbing, kicking, blah, blah. or more in depth slipping, trapping, hooking, etc. etc.

what it boils down to is they put him the game for a reason.  just don't download him or unlock him.

JKD the concepts are more intricate then you guys are giving it credit for.  But if you don't want to find out for yourselves and just assume you know then it is pointless to continue.

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You're still not getting the point. No one ever said JKD concept wasn't intricate or that Bruce didn't have any ground moves what I'm saying is it's NOTHING compare to the stuff they do in MMA hell even what Judo Bruce knew is NOTHING compared to what a true Judo master can do and as I said before  Paul Vunak(the guy in the video you posted) was one of the first JKD users to fully take on what BJJ and Judo offer and add it to the style. Also not downloading/unlocking him doesn't change the fact(to me) that more than likely he is going to be some random fighter who looks like him with real world fight stats that wouldn't match Bruce Lee, they already have create a fighter for that.



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just have to agree to disagree.

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You're still not getting the point. No one ever said JKD concept wasn't intricate or that Bruce didn't have any ground moves what I'm saying is it's NOTHING compare to the stuff they do in MMA hell even what Judo Bruce knew is NOTHING compared to what a true Judo master can do and as I said before  Paul Vunak(the guy in the video you posted) was one of the first JKD users to fully take on what BJJ and Judo offer and add it to the style. Also not downloading/unlocking him doesn't change the fact(to me) that more than likely he is going to be some random fighter who looks like him with real world fight stats that wouldn't match Bruce Lee, they already have create a fighter for that.
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How would you know unless he was alive?

Because of the simple fact that he never mastered Judo at all he merely studied it and he's never even tried BJJ so in that sense he's not going to do well against MMA fighters who have.



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good luck getting Bruce Lee on the ground!


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