Prometheus............yea

[eg6gsr]

If you have seen the Aliens movies and you're expecting a prequel then its not the movie for you(I was one of these people) but on the other hand if you haven't seen any of them then the movie is not that bad.

For me it was like I was waiting and waiting and waiting for something to happen and it just never happened so I was kinda let down by it, the movie is a prequel to Alien just not in the sense that you would normally expect a movie that is called a prequel to be.

People who have seen it chime in with your thoughts on the movie.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

Well if your a megafan of Alien, it a definate prequel.


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First off the opening scene was never truly adressed with the space jockey drinking the ooze, and disolving and falling into the water, and what was the giant UFO he was looking at?

Why did David steal the bio-shell/vase? Why Did he slip an alien parasite into the Doctors drink? He seemed to almost know that he would have intercourse and causecreate something to happen. Weyland seemed to have no input into these actions so why would he take these actions? Prehaps another agenda programmed in by the Yutami corp, or other heads of Weyland? Theres always an underlying theme that the Weyland Corp knows exactly whats out there, and just looking for guinea pigs to bring something back, but like most of the films it's hardly adressed, and here you can only assume because were given no clue.

What exactly is the connection to the Aliens? In the Space Jockeys ship in Alien there were the facehugger eggs kept in a statis field so one would assume based on this film that the Space Jockeys woulve used them as a weapon. But no eggs are found, only some bio ooze cannon shells that seem to turn humans into mostrous giants. How would that destroy Earth? Lets make the human race more monstrous, and strong that will surely make them easier to defeat? Then if they have sex the give birth to face huggers?

The snake like creatures that develope from the ooze from the shells which one could assume mutated the worms on their boots have acid for blood like the aliens, so we can assume again theres a connection to the aliens, but again nothing here is really explained and we dont ever really know what these cannon shells do.

To add to confusion this isnt the same planet from alien, it's LV-223 or something close to that so we never really are given any explanation as to how the ship in Alien got to LV-427.

So at the end we see some weird human/space jockey/Alien hybrid burst out of the Jockeys chest (an no its not the same jockey from Alien) So we still never get to see what came out of him. This thing has no tail, and the inner mouth seems connected by gumms, and cant extend out proper. Again no explanation as to what the hell it is, or how it could possibly burst out from a seemingly different creation method.

One could assume that the Space Jockeys developed bio weapons from the Aliens (which is what Weyland Yutami corp always wanted to do too) And that the Alien like creature that appears at the end kinda confirms this, but thats pure conjecture.

Not that I expected Aliens in this movie, but I did expect a little more clear answers, at least to why the Space Jockeys had Alien Eggs, and what they were doing with them. This movie just seemed to add more confusion into an already open ended mystery.

In fairness it was a beautiful looking, the 80's looking sci fi, and dos systems type print was awesome, and I loved the HR Giger sets. I didnt go into this trying to be a snob, and expecting Aliens, I knew this was it's own movie. I just did not expect it to be as evasive, and anti climatic as it was. I guess if there is a sequal some of these issues can be addressed but I wont hold my breath.

Prehaps some of it could if someone were to do a prequel to Aliens about the terraformers that were overrun by the Aliens, but this is Hollywood so I doubt it.

Overall I give it a 3 out of 5 for acting and set design.

[Scar]

Is it me or was that one huge face hugger.


Movie was so so, dint have much action like i wanted but eh, im guessing that space jockey at the end births the Alien Queen?

Who knows, just throwing stuff in the wind..

[DEMONKAI]

damn i wanted to see this flick bad but now im on the fence cuz fellow horror and sci fi bros i know who i usually form up and see these kind of movies didnt seem too thrilled on the outcome. so thats not good. But im still curious to see with my own etes though....eh sucks if it wasnt all that...

if scar is like meh....."i guess the space jockey was the thing that birthed the Alien queen"

that sh*t didnt sound like it was very epic ....its his opinion but damn now im wondering if that movie is borin as hell now?

[.ALEXZIQ.]

Just thought of another unexplained point

What were the Space jockeys running from, and why were their bodies pile up in a huge pile.

If it was the bio weapon shouldnt they be mutated, and f'd up?

[uncagedBMC]

I believe the openning scene is about the "engineers" coming to Earth to create life. The one drinks the ooze that destroys his cell and mixes in the water. You see a UFO take off so I guess this was a sacrifice or something and they took off back to their homeworld. I think the reason for David giving the doctor the parasite was in hopes they could bring back an alien life form to Earth. They're always trying to bring back a xenomorph for some reason. It seems the end is a setup for a sequel. Maybe they end up on LV-247 and the parasite in the vases mix with some life form to become the face huggers from the other Alien movies. I guess there would have to be another movie to tie in with the others. The alien at the end is a queen just not yet fully developed. Just like some insects it would develop over time.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

Just curious what makes you think the Alien at the end is a Queen?

The opening scene explanation makes sense.

But david had the vase on Prometheus so why bug the Doctor?

While the ooze could be combined with another life form to become the aliens I believe they say the Space Jockey in Alien is Thousand of years old, so the Alien eggs had to have exister prior to this movie.

Plus there are no bomb shown in Alien so it almost looks as though the eggs are the weapon in that case.

I dunno I hope for a sequal to help the pieces fit together.

[Scar]

From what I read this movie does not tie in to Alien..

The planet they are on is a total different planet from where Ripley lands on..

The only thing that ties these 2 movies are the spacey jockeys..

[.ALEXZIQ.]

From what I read this movie does not tie in to Alien..

The planet they are on is a total different planet from where Ripley lands on..

The only thing that ties these 2 movies are the spacey jockeys..

No I know that this LV-223 and Alien is LV-426

But if these ships are bio bombers you have to wonder why 1 is loaded with black ooze, and the other is loaded with face hugger eggs.

Since these planets are close in distance one has to assume is was all part of the Jockeys bio-warfare

From what Ive read in the last day I guess the vace canisters contain DNA from thousands of species which can effect different species differently.

I guess too that the Jockey in Alien is actually older than the Jockeys found in Prometheus. So it's possible that the Aliens were a weapon that the were abandoned in favor of the bio vace shells. 

Ridley Scott also said this is a trilogy, so likely there will be a film that bridges the gap between Prometheus, and Alien, so a lot of these questions might be left open on purpose.

It does have the Xenomorph fanbase talking.

Extended Universe fans have said in some of the books that the Jockeys have enemys all over the galaxy, and drop bio weapons on planets that mutate the life into Aliens, and other creatures.

Hence this is why the Predators master their skills, and right of passage by killing Aliens. Their true war is with the Space jockeys so learning to kill, and manhandle their bio weapons makes them stronger warriors against the Jockeys.

Of course Ridley wont delve into that, but he is using concepts that Jim Cameron used so the writers are using Alien lore beyond Ridley Scotts work.

Peter Weyland (the old man) is the son of Charles Bishop Weyland from AVP as well

[Darkgargos]

I haven't seen the film yet, but I will say this.

I will be going into this with the knowledge that this is not a Alien film. It takes place within the same universe and is canon to the original film, but focuses on a species that we know little about outside of the Alien comics and Dark Horse Presents stories. Ridley Scott wasn't trying to create a action film like Aliens or AvP. He has his own way of story telling that is slower and builds over the course of the movie.

I just feel too many people went into this expecting it to be a true Alien prequel. This is a Space Jockey film, think of it as a third addition to Alien and Predator that builds on the lore of the universe. Besides the Alien creature has been demystified over the years and I think we have seen enough. I want a new Alien film a good one as much as anybody, but I don't think it's time for it yet. I'm fine if I don't ever see the Alien creature in this film, I don't need to because that is not what this film is about.

[DEMONKAI]

I haven't seen the film yet, but I will say this.

I will be going into this with the knowledge that this is not a Alien film. It takes place within the same universe and is canon to the original film, but focuses on a species that we know little about outside of the Alien comics and Dark Horse Presents stories. Ridley Scott wasn't trying to create a action film like Aliens or AvP. He has his own way of story telling that is slower and builds over the course of the movie.

I just feel too many people went into this expecting it to be a true Alien prequel. This is a Space Jockey film, think of it as a third addition to Alien and Predator that builds on the lore of the universe. Besides the Alien creature has been demystified over the years and I think we have seen enough. I want a new Alien film a good one as much as anybody, but I don't think it's time for it yet. I'm fine if I don't ever see the Alien creature in this film, I don't need to because that is not what this film is about.

Good point you got

 

But first off where the hell ya been man?? i remember you vanished sometime ago

[Darkgargos]

Long story short so we don't derail the topic. Team Demon broke up, Drama happened and more drama, then I got banned. Left here to join !E/Etg/Eternaga over at Sinhra and been there for the most part ever since. I'm making a hopefully big return here once again.

[DEMONKAI]

Long story short so we don't derail the topic. Team Demon broke up, Drama happened and more drama, then I got banned. Left here to join !E/Etg/Eternaga over at Sinhra and been there for the most part ever since. I'm making a hopefully big return here once again.

oh ight^^ well welcome back to the IMT universe...


i havent seen prometheus yet but i may check it out anyway even though most of my friends didnt seem too thrilled. Im still curious about it

[Darkgargos]

Thanks, it's good to be back!

Now back to the topic, yeah just the fact that we are finally getting a film that gives some light to the Space Jockey's has me interested. It's still a part of the Alien universe and I'm a huge fan since the first film and all the comics so whether or not it has anything to do with the Alien creature doesn't matter as there is more to the whole universe besides the creature itself.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to know the connection between the Jockey's and the Alien lifeform as it all pertains to it's origins. But it's just nice to have a Ridley Scott film that delves into something else within that world. Alien and Predator need some down time right now. Considering the trash that comes out of Hollywood on a continuous basis we are lucky to get a film like this especially after all these years since the original Alien film.

[.ALEXZIQ.]

I honestly didnt expect this to be a true Alien Prequel, nor did I expect Aliens.

The Alien at the end was more than I thought would be shown so that only exceded my expectation.

I just wanted more answers than what were given about the Space jockeys.

You just have to see it to understand. My frustration was more with the open plot points this film itself left.

However based on the end of this film, and knowing that there is a nother in store has me psyched for the next film.

Could be the best yet.

[Darkgargos]

I wasn't trying to point any fingers in here, just saying in general people were going into this expecting a Alien film. But I will wait till I see it to judge the plot. If this is indeed meant to be a trilogy then I think Ridley didn't want to give everything away in the first film. knowing everything can take away the mystery. It's good to sometimes be left wondering and having our own ideas as to what is going on. I don't want the Space Jockey's to become like the Alien creature where the whole mystery and intrigue lost it's appeal over the years.

But I can understand when certain things are shown and never explained, but sometimes it's done that way to let us speculate. If a film gets my attention and interest enough that it triggers heavy thought processes and leaves me wanting more in a good way then that's a good film in my book. But we will see how all this develops.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

i cant lie, i was one of those people.    but i had to rewatch it again and i got it. i wasnt expecting an official Alien but it was cool tho to see the end.  now i have a better understanding of it and with more sequels i figure it will flesh it out ALOT more plus bring things closer up to speed with the whole Alien Saga.