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Title: Wii 2
Post by: BigJ on April 16, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Supposedly, Nintendo's next console is to be revealed at E3 2011 and is said to be more powerful than both the Xbox 360, and PS3. Heres an article on some rumors:

http://kotaku.com/#5792670/the-great-big-wii-2-rumor-round+up (http://kotaku.com/#5792670/the-great-big-wii-2-rumor-round+up)
http://kotaku.com/#5792472/wii-2-controller-like-an-ipad-with-buttons-says-a-french-person (http://kotaku.com/#5792472/wii-2-controller-like-an-ipad-with-buttons-says-a-french-person)
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1162045p1.html (http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1162045p1.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg#)

My question to you guys is, what would you like to see on Nintendo's next console? Heres a few things I'd like to see.

-A better online experience. Voice chat, parties, better connections etc.
-Mic for online play. A mic built straight into the controller would be nice and very convenient.
-3DS Support
-Still no DVD or BluRay player. All it does is jack up the price, and I don't want to have to pay extra money just so I can have another movie player in my house.

What do you guys want to see?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Acey on April 16, 2011, 10:32:11 AM
I don't need a movie disk player becuase streaming is where it's at.

I want:
1) Backwards compatability (all my Wii 1 games and DLC work on Wii 2)
2) Better graphics for new games
3) Harddrive to store games on, that will actually let you play straight from the hard drive.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on April 16, 2011, 11:17:39 AM
But let's not forget the most important aspect

...

GAMECUBE COMPATIBILITY!
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Spidermew on April 16, 2011, 11:41:34 AM
Well i would like a video player like blu ray or something, cuz i dont have a blu ray player.
I hope it has free online play, also it would be cool if you could plug any of their portable games from the first gameboy to the 3ds into the controller and play it on tv.

And yeah, a hard drive like the 360.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Luigi-Master on April 16, 2011, 01:04:30 PM
How about a gimmick that actually works?  The Wii's motion controller at one point was criticized for not working as well as it could, especially so against newer attempts at it.  And don't overuse the gimmick, either.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on April 16, 2011, 06:43:18 PM
gaming took a leap with the original wii (for good or bad sure), kinda dissapointing wii2 is just about more power
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on April 16, 2011, 06:55:02 PM
gimmie wrestlemania from 64 as backward capable and with updated graphics, hard drive , blueray ( cheap not all out expensive in pricing) and full on free nintendo store and its a wrap! :w00t:
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: ATiC3 on April 17, 2011, 03:50:05 AM
I would like to see them step up the graphics a lot and hopefully come close to comparing to the 360 and PS3 market. That would actually.. be nice than these kid-like graphics we got with the Wii.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: BigJ on April 17, 2011, 07:05:23 PM
I would like to see them step up the graphics a lot and hopefully come close to comparing to the 360 and PS3 market. That would actually.. be nice than these kid-like graphics we got with the Wii.

 Well hopefully thats what they mean when they say more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3. What I'm actually afraid of, is another Dreamcast scenario. :-SS
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on April 17, 2011, 08:19:19 PM
Sega made the DC not Nintendo, they are super seasoned veterans, this sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: C.R.O.M. jodafro619 on April 17, 2011, 10:11:25 PM
some better games and ACTUALLY LISTENING TO THE CONSUMERS!!! most of the stuff some of us already made , but i'll just say mines in a sweet way that only i can do it......... GET WITH F$%^in' TIMES NNINTENDO. it took us close to two decades for you fools to use cds. i wonder what changed your minds?? cough , cough sony lol!!! yeah i know nintendo were the guys and gals of inovation, but unless they pull the danger room from xmen out of their tuccus , they are REALLY gonna need something that's gonna knock our socks off! and please don't spread the killer apps so far and in between nor don't make the mistake of sony (YEAH I SAID IT) making us dive in a sea of crappy games or games that look and play great on another system (see xbox 360)  let's see what they will do.......
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Alexziq on April 18, 2011, 09:55:00 AM
Gee for not being innovators anymore the Wii sure did outsell the competition, and managed to stay number 1 in Japan the majority of time where technology is king.

Seemed to me X-Box borrowed some ideas from the Wii too.

The X-box may have some graphics, but they sure know how to retread crappy 1st person shooter enjines over, and over.

I guess it all depend if you consider innovation making superior graphics that will make games that will be in the 99 cent bin in 3 years, or creating games that stand the test of time, that people contunue to Rom, over and over.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Luigi-Master on April 18, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
The Wii doesn't have superior graphics, yet it has the highest ratio of budget games of current consoles, if not of all time.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Alexziq on April 18, 2011, 03:55:38 PM
The Wii doesn't have superior graphics, yet it has the highest ratio of budget games of current consoles, if not of all time.

 I dont recall saying it did. just the opposite

I find it hard to believe it's budget games top the ps2 in all time. I am sure 360's games will be right up there as one clone gets traded in for the next.

Those crap 1st person shooter war games for X-Box 360 should all be in the shyt bin.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on April 18, 2011, 05:32:29 PM
The Wii doesn't have superior graphics, yet it has the highest ratio of budget games of current consoles, if not of all time.

rly? you got a source there?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on April 18, 2011, 05:36:10 PM
rly? you got a source there?

Does luigi-Master count?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on April 18, 2011, 06:27:11 PM
Those crap 1st person shooter war games for X-Box 360 should all be in the shyt bin.
^^(PM)^
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on April 18, 2011, 07:28:11 PM
i have to admit i like the cod sagas, their arcade casual multiplayer experience is very fun.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Luigi-Master on April 18, 2011, 10:31:52 PM
rly? you got a source there?

Let's see...

The Wii's major flaw is it's sheer number of shovelware games.  Said games can be found at the end caps of your local superstore, like Target or Wal*Mart, but not in the gaming section.  Their price ranges from 15 to 20 dollars, which is the budget Zone<3  However, not all budget games are shovelware games.  Some are based on currently irrelevant franchises, such as Scooby Doo and Shrek.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Silva-silva on April 19, 2011, 12:29:50 AM
Let's see...

The Wii's major flaw is it's sheer number of shovelware games.  Said games can be found at the end caps of your local superstore, like Target or Wal*Mart, but not in the gaming section.  Their price ranges from 15 to 20 dollars, which is the budget Zone<3  However, not all budget games are shovelware games.  Some are based on currently irrelevant franchises, such as Scooby Doo and Shrek.

Fine with what your saying, but Scooby Doo is still relevent, it has a new show, and prior to the new show there was a show that ran.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on April 19, 2011, 12:56:24 AM
Let's see...

The Wii's major flaw is it's sheer number of shovelware games.  Said games can be found at the end caps of your local superstore, like Target or Wal*Mart, but not in the gaming section. 

uhhhh what? you do know the wii isnt designed for the hardcore gamer man. lol . its a fam friendly console. so i never even expected hard knox games to even be on it. but no matter what, the thing sells huge! Nintend o corners is valued market. its Fans. as long as they buy the sucker and the games no matter how uhhhg hardcore peeps dont like it. its about $$, thats what matters.  and what target and walmart you go to?? i go to he electronics department and there are a whole case section for each system and games. and those jokers are NOT 15 and 20 bucks. the only ones are the ones that are older games . not none of the new stuff. its the same deal with ps3 and 360. they both have 20 buck games there for the platinum buy stuff. i copped a couple games from walmart. a cheapy and a reg price one. so that statement sure aint true unless you go to walmart in a hidden village somewhwere where there is only one house and one walmart. lol
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Acey on April 19, 2011, 10:54:19 AM
Wii Rocks!
Xbox360 (Slim) Rocks!
PS3 Rocks!

...and What ever Nintendo makes next is sure to rock as well from what we hear so far. I don't have a PS3 because I don't make as much money as Sic but it's still cool too.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Alexziq on April 19, 2011, 11:07:35 AM
Well if we were all that high of a roller we'd all have our own personal arcade in our 100 acre mansions.

We accounting people sadely just dont make quite that much  :'(

Interestingly the games I play on both of my systems usually are quite similar despite the alleged differences in consoles. I think It's really about the type of gamer that you are  :-??
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on April 19, 2011, 12:58:05 PM
Let's see...

The Wii's major flaw is it's sheer number of shovelware games.  Said games can be found at the end caps of your local superstore, like Target or Wal*Mart, but not in the gaming section.  Their price ranges from 15 to 20 dollars, which is the budget Zone<3  However, not all budget games are shovelware games.  Some are based on currently irrelevant franchises, such as Scooby Doo and Shrek.

ah linguistics got me there, i thought budget meant games with high production values. You are right.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on April 22, 2011, 11:55:56 AM
New RUMORED details (as technically the system itself is a rumor)

A batch of specifications was also published by the website, which says that the Stream could be powered by a "revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU," which will be more powerful than the PlayStation 3's Nvidia-based graphics assembly.

The CPU of the new Wii is set to be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset, pretty much the same as the one in the Xbox 360, but overclocked to deliver enhanced graphics and a smoother frame rate at a full HD resolution.

With the two components combined, the Stream is capable of producing stereoscopic 3D, but it's said that Nintendo won't market the device with such a feature.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: KydChyllen on May 05, 2011, 05:16:41 PM
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn204/JayL95/219669_219831658027040_215373875139485_957177_722965_o.jpg)

^FTW [:

I since they said that Project Cafe is like a modern SNES.

And please no Blu-Ray or DVD player, It just up's the price.

BTW BigJ, Bro, You should change the name of this thread to Project Cafe because that's what it's currently called.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on May 05, 2011, 05:19:50 PM
no dvd player? CDs are too small mate.

Also  was thinking about those heptic capabilities or whatever its called. Maybe the new controller will have no buttons whatsoever or just a stick, take iphone games, the buttons for games like ssfiv just appear on the screen and you move your finger, the new controller could be like this with buttons appearing on the screen depending on what the game needs however this is even able to create textures prossibly removing the horrible sensibility problem a touchscreen has nowadays.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: KydChyllen on June 06, 2011, 07:21:06 AM
On June 3, 2011, Nikkei issued a report confirming earlier rumors that the new console will feature a controller with a six inch touchscreen that will give tablet-like controls to games, as well as a rechargeable battery and a camera. The controller can also serve as a portable game machine. Nikkei says the system will be released in mid-2012.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/04/nikkei_wii_controller_details/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/04/nikkei_wii_controller_details/)

On June 5, 2011, a mere two days before Nintendo's E3 2011 press conference, Game Informer, which had previously referred to the console as "Nintendo HD," speculated that the the final name for the console may be simply Nintendo.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/05/final-nintendo-hd-name-debate-continues.aspx (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/05/final-nintendo-hd-name-debate-continues.aspx)
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: BigJ on June 07, 2011, 05:45:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg#)
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: KydChyllen on June 09, 2011, 11:18:56 AM
I mostly wanna see,

Metroid 5,
Donkey Kong Country 5,
Yoshi's Story 2,
Smash Bros 4,
Punchout 2,
F-Zero,
Kid Icarus: Uprising,
and a Wario game.

Imagine those all in 1080HD graphics !
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 09, 2011, 02:37:14 PM
I mostly wanna see,

Metroid 5, I can see that
Donkey Kong Country 5, If Retro's behind this one, I agree
Yoshi's Story 2, I highly doubt it
Smash Bros 4, They just announced it
Punchout 2, Again, I doubt it but it would be awesome
F-Zero, HECK YEAH!
Kid Icarus: Uprising, 3DS exclusive I think
and a Wario game. see: F-Zero

Imagine those all in 1080HD graphics !
Bold comments
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 12, 2011, 04:58:25 PM
http://www.gamekult.com/actu/e3-2011-pas-de-jeux-gamecube-sur-wii-u-A0000093568.html (http://www.gamekult.com/actu/e3-2011-pas-de-jeux-gamecube-sur-wii-u-A0000093568.html)

HEADS WILL ROLL!  \-/o
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Spidermew on June 12, 2011, 05:03:22 PM
I dont read french, can you translate?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on June 12, 2011, 05:19:46 PM
no gamecube compatability.
guess they're really trying to finaly stop people from using GCN controllers. lame.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 12, 2011, 07:21:58 PM
no gamecube compatability.
guess they're really trying to finaly stop people from using GCN controllers. lame.
Those controller making peeps better make Gamecube controllers compatible with the Wii U.

Why Nintendo wants to ditch this controller is beyond me
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on June 12, 2011, 07:44:20 PM
I never liked the GC controller, but it is the only way I can play SSB. Think about it though if not now then it will happen on the Wii U's successor, and we will complain then. It is 2 Gens later and we still want to use a GC controller?

On the other hand I'll bet they'll release a classic controller for Gamecube.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 12, 2011, 10:23:45 PM
I never liked the GC controller, but it is the only way I can play SSB. Think about it though if not now then it will happen on the Wii U's successor, and we will complain then. It is 2 Gens later and we still want to use a GC controller?

On the other hand I'll bet they'll release a classic controller for Gamecube.
I dunno, maybe it's the old gen fanatic's side of me thinking it, but still I'd love to use the GC format again for the new Smash Bros
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Spidermew on June 13, 2011, 12:15:33 PM
All the wii controlles are suposed to work for the wii u so the wii "clasic controller" should work.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on June 13, 2011, 03:52:43 PM
yup and i think its much better than the GC controller but since it doesnt have motion sensors 90% of the wii catalogue wont work.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Acey on June 13, 2011, 04:04:55 PM
We probably won't want to use this new controller for bowling anyways.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 15, 2011, 01:59:21 AM
yup and i think its much better than the GC controller but since it doesnt have motion sensors 90% of the wii catalogue wont work.

Incorrect, WiiU will be completely compatible with Wii games.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: vyn on June 15, 2011, 02:58:08 AM
huh? im talking about the classic wii controller not the wii games, it doesnt have motion sensors
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Spidermew on June 15, 2011, 09:38:22 AM
But you have to plug it into a wii mote to even get it to work, so it still will.
Becides im sure they will still have the virtual concole and wii ware
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kid Chyllen™♪ on June 26, 2011, 03:46:21 PM
They said that Nintendo's shares fell like to 10 percent in like 2 days after they showed the Wii U.
They also said that they didn't understand Nintendo's strategy ; The controller would be too expensive and not as innovative as the original Wii Remote.
 =D>
I hope this means Nintendo will change the look of the controller, because I'm not really feeling it ... Like ... How am I gonna play SSB4 on that s**t ? lol.
They need to consider using this ...

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn204/JayL95/how-could-the-wii-2-controller-work-20110415053115064-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 30, 2011, 08:27:11 PM
Wasn't that the placement of the stick and pad for the Gamecube controller?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on June 30, 2011, 08:39:32 PM
huh? im talking about the classic wii controller not the wii games, it doesnt have motion sensors

You can still use Wiimotes also.

As for ease of use:
(http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/wii-u-controller-mario-650x313.jpg)
Okay now imagine that without the screen. Oh! Its an easy 4 button, 2 joy stick, one joypad controller with shoulder buttons!

Lets see other 2 joy stick, one joypad, 4 button controllers with shoulder buttons:
(click to show/hide)

Looks a lot more comfortable than the N64, Gamecube or Wii mote controllers.
Plus you can still use the old Classic Controller add-on.

I imagine the controller will cost about the same to the customer as it does for every other console; $40-$60 based on how new it is.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 01, 2011, 04:26:04 AM
(http://nintendookie.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/wavebird.jpg)

Four buttons...

Two joysticks...

One joypad...

Shoulder buttons...

Pretty dang comfy.

REVOLUTIONARY!
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 01, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
I was never 100% comfortable with it, but you're right it too is the same. The buttons are labeled the same way, even. So the controller seems like it is actually easier to use that the Wiimote for games like SSB, and is pretty similar to a GC Controller or even a DS.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 01, 2011, 04:48:00 PM
The problem I have with the Wii U controller is that it's a block. There isn't much curvature, and the shoulder buttons are way too far up the sides. It's like the NES controller with more buttons, slowly digging into your palms until you're forced to put it down.

I know they're trying to be some kind of revolutionary with the screen and all, but the shape of the controller is a thirty year step backwards.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 01, 2011, 05:39:29 PM
Not really, it is a very rounded surface and seems thinner than most controllers. Like I said its kind of like holding a DS.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 02, 2011, 04:29:00 AM
Rounded has nothing to do with form fitting articulation.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 03, 2011, 05:47:40 PM
You're saying it digs in your hands. To me it looks like its as comfy (wow comfy is in the spell check :D ) as using a DS, plus on the back there is a nice little hand rest.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kidzworld_photo/images/2011610/62e38d82-0538-40e5-88cc-2c562c2e319c/gallery_wii%20u%20controller%20back.jpg)
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 03, 2011, 07:26:47 PM
Oh no, does the back really look like that?

Have you held devices with that shape before? What you perceive as a hand rest looks like an awesome idea in photographs, but that little bar actually makes your fingers feel like the most awkward little worms in the world.

I want to have hope, but this controller is making it difficult x.x;
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 03, 2011, 10:52:14 PM
(http://nintendookie.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/wavebird.jpg)

Four buttons...

Two joysticks...

One joypad...

Shoulder buttons...

Pretty dang comfy.

REVOLUTIONARY!

I liked the original classic controller the best. SNES FTW!
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Black Ops20 on July 03, 2011, 11:11:34 PM
That controller looks like a sega gamegear. Now that was a huge block that was uncomfortable to play with. This seems smaller so it might not be a problem.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 04, 2011, 12:16:28 AM
I liked the original classic controller the best. SNES FTW!

That is why Nintendo made this.
(http://gagekun.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wiiClassicController.jpg)

I always thought it was too small feeling, but thats just me.

My all time favorite is the Playstation controller, but thats not going to happen. :D

I suppose 2nd would have to be the Genesis controller, because I dislike the Xbox's, not crazy on GC's, disliked the N64's, and thought the Wiimote (horizontally) was a little too limited. Its a fairly distant 2nd though.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 04, 2011, 12:59:49 AM
That is why Nintendo made this.
(http://gagekun.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/wiiClassicController.jpg)

I know. that's the original Classic controller. I own one.

Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 04, 2011, 02:48:42 PM
I figured you did just felt like just about every other controller had a pic so why not. :D
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Acey on July 06, 2011, 05:16:53 PM
Nintendo has been the king of the controller revolution, NES (Dpad), SNES (top buttons, 6 buttons), N64 (Dpad and Joystick), Gamecube (WTF), Wii (obvious). Nintendo owns this area and the Wii U controller doesn't disapoint.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on July 06, 2011, 05:21:22 PM
(http://nintendookie.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/wavebird.jpg)



I always hated this controllers button layouts. made a mess of my brother fingers.  \-/o
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Rage on July 06, 2011, 06:04:08 PM
Why is everyone complaining about the game cube layout? If you look closely its not much different then the ps3. Just the stick and d-pad are moved around. One less button its all :-??
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 06, 2011, 06:08:57 PM
Well PS3 has a + sign of equal size same shape buttons. No button is any different. With GC there is one Godzilla-size A-button, a baby B button (that breaks fairly easily with wear) and 2 line shaped X and Y buttons that are a lot like the B button in terms of wear.

One thing I like more about the Wii U controller is that the buttons are uniform size/shape.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 07, 2011, 04:03:15 AM
I've never had a B button break on me at all ever, and I've been using the same controllers since launch.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 07, 2011, 07:36:28 AM
I'll be taking that then :D
I can't play SSBB anymore (too much) because in Controller A: B and R and broken and in Controller B: A is broken.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on July 07, 2011, 07:37:43 AM
It could still work. Just pause, switch controllers for the buttons, unpause, and repeat. lol
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kid Chyllen™♪ on July 26, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Snes_control.jpg)
= The best.
(http://mygamesnews.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/wii-hd-controller-ign-mock-up.jpg)
They need to make this the controller.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 29, 2011, 08:39:11 PM
It could still work. Just pause, switch controllers for the buttons, unpause, and repeat. lol

You spying on me? :D Thats actually what I have to do sometimes.

I actually prefer the real one to that theoretical. Like I said I dislike the 360 controller and that is obviously what that is +screen and better shoulder buttons.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 29, 2011, 09:02:02 PM
How can you dislike the 360 controller? D:
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 30, 2011, 04:01:34 AM
It big and odd to me. Plus I don't like the shoulder buttons. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Rage on July 30, 2011, 04:12:43 AM
It big and odd to me. Plus I don't like the shoulder buttons. Just my opinion.
^^(PM)^

that box system or what ever its called needs to burn.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 30, 2011, 04:41:19 AM
^^(PM)^

that box system or what ever its called needs to burn.

Can't burn yet, still like the Halo Universe.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
Okay, for a min I thought we were talking about the WiiU.

Yeah ever since the Kinect I've lost a lot of respect for Microsoft
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 30, 2011, 01:14:54 PM
I thought the Kinect was good, but handled very poorly. It has so much potential but no one is using it. Plus they should add in the use of controllers for it.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 01:21:11 PM
I thought the Kinect was good, but handled very poorly. It has so much potential but no one is using it. Plus they should add in the use of controllers for it.
Have you seen the lineup of games for it?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 30, 2011, 01:35:10 PM
I know it has a lot of games, but all of them seem like rushed boring stuff. A lot like what the Wii (regular) has a lot of. It needs more games that many months are spent on, not just a few weeks.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
I know it has a lot of games, but all of them seem like rushed boring stuff. A lot like what the Wii (regular) has a lot of. It needs more games that many months are spent on, not just a few weeks.
That's kinda what I was saying.

But while the Wii at least has some amazing games like Galaxy 2, Okami, DKC Returns, and MadWorld

The Kinect has ... Sesame Street and virtualt trip to DisneyLand
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 30, 2011, 03:54:03 PM
Are people calling the Wii line-up lazy and boring again?

Cause I'm pretty sure Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros: Brawl, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario Land Shake-It!, Klonoa Wii, No More Heroes, No More Heroes 2, Madworld, Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and Muramasa: the Demon Blade all disagree with you. And they're not alone.

The only things the Wii was missing that X-Box and PS3 offered were Achievements, user profile, and decent online. That's really it. The game libraries are strong on all consoles.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 30, 2011, 04:24:55 PM
No, no Kriven. I'm saying Kinect needs stuff like that. :D A lot of the games for Wii are like that, but certainly not all. I'm saying that most companies look at the Wii (and now Kinect) and figure 'Hey we can make a quick gimmick game like Super Beach Fun Time! We'll spend 4 days on it and release it.' Almost all 1st party Wii games are great, and there are obviously a lot of other 2nd and 3rd party games that are great too. I was saying the Wii has an over abundance of poor games as well, and that the Kinect pretty much only has that
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 04:34:15 PM
So I say let's give the PSMove shovelware as well
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 30, 2011, 07:19:52 PM
My bad 3: I thought you were dissing Wii and Kinect together.

I think the biggest problem with Kinect is that we aren't really ready for it. It was the same problem Nintendo found when they released the Wii. As consumers and sheep, we all gawk initially, but as gamers, we don't seem to be ready to leave the traditional controller. When you force the new play controls on people, you sell less games and get a lot less developer support from big guns. Developers will have to find a way to make innovative control schemes for both the Kinect and regular controller, but Microsoft is going to have to lead the way. Maybe Rareware could make something good again and show them how it's done. A new Perfect Dark, mayhaps?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 08:42:05 PM
Maybe Rareware could make something good again and show them how it's done. A new Perfect Dark, mayhaps?
I'd rather have a TRUE Banjo-Kazooie 3
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Rage on July 30, 2011, 09:03:22 PM
Are people calling the Wii line-up lazy and boring again?

Cause I'm pretty sure Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros: Brawl, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario Land Shake-It!, Klonoa Wii, No More Heroes, No More Heroes 2, Madworld, Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and Muramasa: the Demon Blade all disagree with you. And they're not alone.

The only things the Wii was missing that X-Box and PS3 offered were Achievements, user profile, and decent online. That's really it. The game libraries are strong on all consoles.
yeah in 4 or five years thats all, so yes. Tho when Nintendo releases a game its GREAT and the reply value is off the charts. But thats the problem. Only Nintendo games tend to be good for the console. you only get about 3 or 4 off those games a year. Maybe at X-mas you'll get something extra. The point being Nintendo needs to do some to about the 3rd party support. They have all most none and thats there own fault.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 30, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
To be honest, my favorite Wii games have no Nintendo involvement. TvC, ToS2, NMH...

And DKCR and NSMBW are among some of the games I would be most willing to give up. :-\
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja on July 30, 2011, 10:00:06 PM
I bought Nintendo Wii 1 only for Super Smash Bros Brawl...
And I'm gonna buy Wii 2 only for Super Smash Bros 4... no other reasons really
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 10:36:20 PM
I bought Nintendo Wii 1 only for Super Smash Bros Brawl...
And I'm gonna buy Wii 2 only for Super Smash Bros 4... no other reasons really
Quick, do you think Brawl was a good successor to Melee?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Rage on July 30, 2011, 10:42:08 PM
I bought Nintendo Wii 1 only for Super Smash Bros Brawl...
And I'm gonna buy Wii 2 only for Super Smash Bros 4... no other reasons really
me too

Quick, do you think Brawl was a good successor to Melee?
nope, its was garbage by comparison. But ill still buy #4 tho. if 4 is garbage then i may just give up on Nintendo cause thats the bread and butter for me.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Silva-silva on July 30, 2011, 10:45:40 PM
Quick, do you think Brawl was a good successor to Melee?

No, I think brawl was a terrible game. I wasted well over 500+ hours on that game just to learn everything about it, (all its mechanics and such) and find out that it was one or the most unbalanced games I had ever played. I even switched to brawl + about 3/4 through my run through it, but the damage that game had caused was already there.

Here this explains one of the reasons I hate this game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFpRQdOuQ0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFpRQdOuQ0#)
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 30, 2011, 11:15:19 PM
Last comment on my threadjack #429, but I thought Brawl was a great successor. I don't find Meta Knight that tough, just play a bit of keep away and hit and run. I think a game like Brawl has a weird kind of balance, especially with the diversity of stages and odd items, and how characters can adapt. (like how Snake has poor mobility, speed, power, and yet still manages to be pretty tough, even cheap at times)
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 30, 2011, 11:32:35 PM
To be honest I like Melee and Brawl both equally. There are somethings I hate about the two, like how Brawl is floaty and unbalanced and how Melee is so unforgiving in terms of AI level but I still enjoy both games.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Silva-silva on July 30, 2011, 11:34:31 PM
Last comment on my threadjack #429, but I thought Brawl was a great successor. I don't find Meta Knight that tough, just play a bit of keep away and hit and run. I think a game like Brawl has a weird kind of balance, especially with the diversity of stages and odd items, and how characters can adapt. (like how Snake has poor mobility, speed, power, and yet still manages to be pretty tough, even cheap at times)


For meta knight I think your playing as meta knight not fighting him.

For snake two things  forward tilt and up tilt. Repeat until victory.
And you do know he can dash across the entire screen right?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Q2gfVEf0k# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Q2gfVEf0k#)
at 1:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-fQ-4g9Jc4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-fQ-4g9Jc4#)

Perfectly fair right?
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 31, 2011, 12:36:05 AM
No, I'm kinda bad with MK, I just tend to run at people with him and hope it works. :D

Didn't know about those tricks but I guess I can respond...
1st one: Its seems like as shown by the video, even Link (hyper-low tier) and a ton of others have those.

2nd one: ...uh...*throws paint in eyes and runs*

Infinite aside, I still think it was a quality game.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 31, 2011, 12:50:32 AM
No, I'm kinda bad with MK, I just tend to run at people with him and hope it works. :D

Didn't know about those tricks but I guess I can respond...
1st one: Its seems like as shown by the video, even Link (hyper-low tier) and a ton of others have those.

2nd one: ...uh...*throws paint in eyes and runs*

Infinite aside, I still think it was a quality game.

Snake can do it BETTER then all the other characters in the game.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 31, 2011, 01:31:28 AM
Well he is the best there is. :D
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 31, 2011, 01:42:34 AM
- Brawl doesn't have to be competetive to be fun, and fun is what's at the center of a "game." So if a game is fun, then it's a good game.

- The only unbalancing feature of Brawl would be the random tripping. Without that, a skilled player could avoid the "broken" traps of other characters.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 31, 2011, 02:36:12 AM
- Brawl doesn't have to be competetive to be fun, and fun is what's at the center of a "game." So if a game is fun, then it's a good game.
You know I'd agree with you, but I doubt you played the game every day with a guy who treated every match like it was a tournament. It's not fun watching him do the bullcrap Dedede/Falco chaingrabs, or abusing the stupid-butt broken hitboxes snake has, or turtle his butt off with meta-knight. Not fun. At all. Also I play as bowser, and my friends played as Captain Falcon and Ganon.

Quote
- The only unbalancing feature of Brawl would be the random tripping. Without that, a skilled player could avoid the "broken" traps of other characters.
Play a pro meta-knight/snake/dedede/falco, then tell me that again.

That being said, I still enjoy playing brawl, as long as it's not with that guy. However the only friend that would play it with me won't play it without Silva-Silva there, and he hate the game with a passion. So I can't play brawl.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 31, 2011, 02:57:22 AM
You know, I'd agree with you, but I learned a long time ago not to play with people who can't handle a friendly game. Also, the fact that you state you play as Bowser as a point implies that you're unwilling to change up to suit the situation, so that's your own problem.

The problem with playing a pro player, is that I'm not a pro player. Your statement really means nothing with that in mind. Just because the match is unbalanced, doesn't mean the game is. I would just be out of my league.

Really could have done without the attitude in your post, especially considering that all of your rebuttals were based on opinionated personal scenario and are tainted by Brawling out of your league.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 31, 2011, 03:01:34 AM
I didn't really read any attitude in it. Just an honest opinion, lets keep friendly, its just a game (that we all bought).
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 31, 2011, 03:12:55 AM
You know, I'd agree with you, but I learned a long time ago not to play with people who can't handle a friendly game. Also, the fact that you state you play as Bowser as a point implies that you're unwilling to change up to suit the situation, so that's your own problem.

The problem with playing a pro player, is that I'm not a pro player. Your statement really means nothing with that in mind. Just because the match is unbalanced, doesn't mean the game is. I would just be out of my league.

Really could have done without the attitude in your post, especially considering that all of your rebuttals were based on opinionated personal scenario and are tainted by Brawling out of your league.

No man, he's not pro, I'm as good as him. I play as bowser cause I play for fun. This guy, he changed his main from pit to snake/dedede/falco the instant the tier list came out.

I play as characters I like, not because of how good they are. I refuse to counter pick. This is still a game. I don't have to change who I play as just to beat one person.

I assure you, I know how to chain grab with falco/dedede, or abuse the hell out of snake? Does that mean I should do it just to play with that guy? no. I'd rather lose then stoop to that level.

And sasuke is right, I honestly didn't mean it to be mean or anything, I'm just telling you what I've noticed after I played the game for about 2 years straight every lunch hour.

Also, I'm serious about this game being unbalanced. It's as bad as MVC2. Ganon's match-ups against Ice-climbers (another one of my friends "faves") is 0-100 in their favor. seriously man. Zero to One hundred in Ice climbers favor. pro Ganon litterally can't win vs. pro climbers. This guy's Idea of a match is one grab = one stock. That's not fun at all man.  
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 31, 2011, 03:19:03 AM
I play on 2 levels. Fun at first, but if they play serious I step it up. If I'm playing around in SFIV I'll use Rufus, Zangief or some other char I couldn't beat a 2-year-old with for fun. But if someone is unleashing the fury of the 'Tiger-Tiger-Tiger' flow chart, its Vega/Cammy time. Same with SSBB. So far I haven't met anyone ready for that, mainly because I can hardly play online in it :D.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on July 31, 2011, 03:21:06 AM
So far I haven't met anyone ready for that, mainly because I can hardly play online in it :D.
^^(PM)^
I always find the game more fun to play with the guy sitting next to you anyway.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 31, 2011, 03:22:19 AM
I play on 2 levels. Fun at first, but if they play serious I step it up. If I'm playing around in SFIV I'll use Rufus, Zangief or some other char I couldn't beat a 2-year-old with for fun. But if someone is unleashing the fury of the 'Tiger-Tiger-Tiger' flow chart, its Vega/Cammy time. Same with SSBB. So far I haven't met anyone ready for that, mainly because I can hardly play online in it :D.

Yeah man. I hope in the new SSB they make the online way better. And put some effort into balancing.

TBH Bowser isn't even my main. my main in brawl is G&W. I used to play ganon in SSBM but he's so terrible in brawl. It's like they forgot how he played in melee.

EDIT: Kriven. I've thought about it. You're right. I don't hate the game. I just don't like playing that guy. In fact, I'm certain if he wasen't as big of a d*** as he was i'd still like brawl as much I used to.
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kriven on July 31, 2011, 04:07:39 PM
There's a kid all my other friends hang out with who insists on playing Smash Bros when we hang out (either Melee or Brawl, it doesn't matter.) and bitches and moans whenever he loses.

I'm using Yoshi.

I must be cheap.

I don't like playing with him 3:
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 31, 2011, 04:39:29 PM
I know those people!
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: Kid Chyllen™♪ on August 01, 2011, 01:43:40 PM
The question is, how are we even gonna play SSB4 with that piece of crap controller ?  ~X(
Title: Re: Wii 2
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on August 01, 2011, 01:52:13 PM
Hey, for all we know, it probably controls like a dream
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