Yoda & Vader in Soul Calibur was utterly stupid . For one thing , Yoda is totally broken & not balanced at all .though i respect ur opinion yoda is totally not broken....how do i know??? because i play yoda and he is in no way broken and unbalnced. you probably say that because either you dont know what to do against him or ur mad because you cant grab and your options become limited the moment yoda steps on the seen. yoda is by far the hardest character to play in sc4 due to his health being low and his height though is his advantage it is also his disadvantage. he is quite easily rung out and all good players know this. he is the esiest to critical finish...(just 4 heavy attack and critical finish) but you wanna call him broken and unbalanced. dude come on. u must have lost to a yoda player or something. my yoda is really good and i can go head to head with pros but yoda is limited is someways but limitless in others. u have no idea how much work it is to finish any opponent in sc4 when i play with yoda. the pros kill yoda easily...in case u have noticed none of them use him for that reason alone. yoda is my fav next to xianghua but im not sayin gthat because of that. tekken is another great series. the only one i can truly recall that sucked in the whole series was tekken 4. that game had so many cheap imbalances it wasnt even funny. i agree with you on them doing a 2d but modernizing it
The fact that Vader is on the actual 360 disc & you can't play him is even more stupid .
Then the fact that they are going to make you buy Vader online when he's on the disc is very stupid .
The fact that they haven't released their scam Vader on 360 when a hacker was playing with him on 360 a week after thegamewas released , is even more foolish .
Namco sucks . I loved Soul Calibur until all this . What else do they have as a fighter ? Oh that's right that garbage Tekken . I've been burnt on that series since Tekken 3 .
I thought MK vs DC was pretty decent . I was surprised it was as good as it was . Since Midway seemed to just destroy the MK universe more & more with each new arrival . I thought they did things right with MK vs DC & were back on the right track . Too bad they are gong under .
Remaking MK 1 or 2 & modernizing it , but still being 2d would be the best option on the MK series for Midway or whoever buys the series . They have to go back to the roots of what made the series popular .
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though i respect ur opinion yoda is totally not broken....how do i know??? because i play yoda and he is in no way broken and unbalnced. you probably say that because either you dont know what to do against him or ur mad because you cant grab and your options become limited the moment yoda steps on the seen. yoda is by far the hardest character to play in sc4 due to his health being low and his height though is his advantage it is also his disadvantage. he is quite easily rung out and all good players know this. he is the esiest to critical finish...(just 4 heavy attack and critical finish) but you wanna call him broken and unbalanced. dude come on. u must have lost to a yoda player or something. my yoda is really good and i can go head to head with pros but yoda is limited is someways but limitless in others. u have no idea how much work it is to finish any opponent in sc4 when i play with yoda. the pros kill yoda easily...in case u have noticed none of them use him for that reason alone. yoda is my fav next to xianghua but im not sayin gthat because of that. tekken is another great series. the only one i can truly recall that sucked in the whole series was tekken 4. that game had so many cheap imbalances it wasnt even funny. i agree with you on them doing a 2d but modernizing it
Namco should buy MK =D>. Period.
It would be interesting to see what they could do with a MK9.
Or,
Maybe (if they buy it) they should just Start the MK series all over again.
IDK
though i respect ur opinion yoda is totally not broken....how do i know??? because i play yoda and he is in no way broken and unbalnced.
yeah, a character who can't be hit by high attacks or throws, and who's grab dodges low attacks is totally balanced. Astaroth loves fighting him.What you just said just sounds like a description of Leopaldon.
yeah, a character who can't be hit by high attacks or throws, and who's grab dodges low attacks is totally balanced. Astaroth loves fighting him.
Its obvious whatever character Gaijin plays as isnt broken/cheap/unbalanced in his eyes no matter how much PROOF is infront of him.Hmmm Not true
"Points to the SF4 thread also."
Hmmm from the posts that i am ready it seems that either most of or some of you guys are not that good in sc4 or just don't know what to do against yoda. I have no trouble against yoda all you have to use is mind games and vertical attacks that's it and he is not cheap at all. If you don't believe me pick yoda and fight me and you will see heheheh.Hmmm Not true
Hmmm from the posts that i am ready it seems that either most of or some of you guys are not that good in sc4 or just don't know what to do against yoda. I have no trouble against yoda all you have to use is mind games and vertical attacks that's it and he is not cheap at all. If you don't believe me pick yoda and fight me and you will see heheheh.Hmmm Not true
Hmmm from the posts that i am ready it seems that either most of or some of you guys are not that good in sc4 or just don't know what to do against yoda. I have no trouble against yoda all you have to use is mind games and vertical attacks that's it and he is not cheap at all. If you don't believe me pick yoda and fight me and you will see heheheh.Hmmm Not true
True in what you are saying tenspeed and correct. for an astaroth player though you cannot throw or use horizontal it doesn't make yoda broken it actually makes the battle easier for you meaning all you have to do if astaroth tackle all day or his lows and mix it up with verticals and that's it.
On topic: I hope mk does impress and wow us but that is what they said last time and we all saw what happend to miday after making mk vs dc
yeah, but where's the fun in that? it's like two people playing MK and just doing jump kicks and sweeps all day, or picking akuma in street fighter 4 and throwing air fireballs nonstop. yoda breaks soul calibur. Even if you can beat him, even if he sucks, he breaks the gameplay.
..........Just give it up, they will justify him not being broken, unbalanced, etc no matter how many flaws we point out. And this is not the first time. It's like they need an excuse to use overly broken and abusive chars in any game period. Give me a break.@Syn it is alright man relax, i do not use these so called broken chars and saying all this as an excuse to just use them. I am just trying to clarify that yoda or spamming chars can be beaten and yes it makes the game boring but it is not like you fight yoda every day like you do on sf4 with ken, ryu and akuma. Basically i agree with you on what you and others are saying but at the same time just remember they are in the game and if they bother you just completely obliterate them or just kick them out.
Atleast DT admits he uses those type of characters for those purposes alone knowing damn well they are.
actually, the reason I don't play SCIV online is because every fight was either yoda, taki, or cervantes.That sucks sorry man.
actually, the reason I don't play SCIV online is because every fight was either yoda, taki, or cervantes.You should try Mk VS , Dc then
You should try Mk VS , Dc thenTrue so true ;)
It's either Scorpion or flash
I learned my lesson REALLY FAST with that game.Hhahahah
It was ironic because my main characters were flash, green lantern, and captain marvel. It was funny because every time I picked flash people would drop, and I didn't know why until I started playing as the other two and fought like eight flashes in a row.
I learned my lesson REALLY FAST with that game.Not only that everytime i picked flash people seemed to always pick scorpion.
It was ironic because my main characters were flash, green lantern, and captain marvel. It was funny because every time I picked flash people would drop, and I didn't know why until I started playing as the other two and fought like eight flashes in a row.
@Syn it is alright man relax, i do not use these so called broken chars and saying all this as an excuse to just use them. I am just trying to clarify that yoda or spamming chars can be beaten and yes it makes the game boring but it is not like you fight yoda every day like you do on sf4 with ken, ryu and akuma. Basically i agree with you on what you and others are saying but at the same time just remember they are in the game and if they bother you just completely obliterate them or just kick them out.
On topic: There was a rumor that more info on mk9 or whatever was to be released at this year's E3, let's just hope they pull through this time [-O<
Not only that everytime i picked flash people seemed to always pick scorpion.
Why?
Because They spam there inferno attack and since flash has no Projectile moves The flash player might as well quit the match.
lol look at you guys.....do you really need to be handed everything...a challange is what makes the game good....you call it broken or cheesy becuase your character cant do what your opponent does. get ya game up..lol
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who has MK vs DC for xbox360....hit him up with your gamertag...and well get some matchs going.
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???? i dont know about that...if you let someone spam you with that attack, then your an idiot..straight up.
lol look at you guys.....do you really need to be handed everything...a challange is what makes the game good....you call it broken or cheesy becuase your character cant do what your opponent does. get ya game up..lol:D Your acting like you'll stop someone from using that attack.
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who has MK vs DC for xbox360....hit him up with your gamertag...and well get some matchs going.
Post Merge: March 25, 2009, 10:48:48 AM
???? i dont know about that...if you let someone spam you with that attack, then your an idiot..straight up.
Gon was another character that shouldn't have been in a fighting game. same with Dr. Boskonowhatever. Like I keep saying, a character doesn't need to have a advantage or disadvantage necessarily for him to break the gameplay. People throw the word "broken" around too much when talking about cheap characters. Shao Kahn in MK3 is broken, because nothing phases him when it should. Magneto in MVC2 IS NOT broken, just because he has a ridiculous air combo reset ect. If you make a fighting system, all of your characters need to adhere to it. Look at brawl. you have all sorts of weird people from all sorts of weird games and universes, but they all follow the same rules. Sure there are small characters in that game, but it's not like 90 percent of the attacks in the game go over their head like small characters in most other games.in brawl the best most cheapest character is metaknight. he breaks the rules in a variety of ways with minimal to 0 zero lag moves and killing low percentages moves that override everyones attacks and end in no lag. they tried to balance him by making him light weight but that doesnt matter since his DI can sometimes net him the possibity of lasting longer that most characters.
It's not a challenge to be unable to play a game the way it's meant to be played. If you and I were to play, and we both picked normal characters, and played our best, that would be one thing, but this is entirely different.
and mastamasta, don't come up in a topic like that and insult everyone just for having a discussion. that's plain childish.
..........Just give it up, they will justify him not being broken, unbalanced, etc no matter how many flaws we point out. And this is not the first time. It's like they need an excuse to use overly broken and abusive chars in any game period. Give me a break.
Atleast DT admits he uses those type of characters for those purposes alone knowing damn well they are.
well its broken when one character has a huge advantage or handicap over everyone else... Plus its the fact that everyone tries to say hes not broken its not the fact that they are picking them. They just wont admit that he's not broken. They always gotta make excuses for them.
:D Your acting like you'll stop someone from using that attack.
What can flash do when scorp does that Nothing it's common sense.
stop trying to school everyone and out yourself in higher position.
I don't think MK is cheap, He gets handled really easily :xnot really. its only easy if someone doesnt know how to use him. but if you face against the like of say mew2king who is number 1 or 2 in the world then you will see how fast and easy meta can flow into one attack after another laglessly. marth is a good counter for him but the only other one is game and watch. it all depends on whos using and how they use him. meta clearly has the advantage over all the other characters. the only marth stands a chance is cuz of his counter move and speed.
first off...i dont use yoda....namco WONT release a broken character...its just broken to you guys cause you cant beat him. thats not my fault.
what stops namco form releasing a broken character?It's fans?
True. Fans run the show because namco unlike most companies listen to their fans. I mean take tekken 6 for example...when it came out certain characters were over powered in the ppl opinions so namco started working on tekken 6 br which has changed damaged values for more balance. So yeah we the fans stop broken characters and we force them too fix what is broken. Yoda obviously isnt broken so thats why he hasnt been fixed.
first off...i dont use yoda....namco WONT release a broken character...its just broken to you guys cause you cant beat him. thats not my fault.
so are u saying that we cant keep namco from producing cheapness????? When they have already fixed so many cheap infinites sc and fixed the tekken system if its up and coming game because the fans wanted it to be changed? That statement is not false. If you read into it then you will see. Namco wise the fans dictate whether or not some stuff will be changed or not. By now if its in the game its not cheap. Just because a few ppl cant deal with it doesnt make it cheap
Patching games in home consoles is the worst thing that have happened in the last years. The companys launch incomplete games, or with blocked content and charge more to unlock these features. I miss the time where games are released complete.
I'm thinking skipping this generation. Pricey consoles, a lot of useless funcions in consoles and poor games.
Patching games in home consoles is the worst thing that have happened in the last years. The companys launch incomplete games, or with blocked content and charge more to unlock these features. I miss the time where games are released complete.poor games? killzone 2 , heavenly sword, gta 4, dmc4, sf4, naruto ultimate ninja storm, re5, assassins creed....need i say more?
I'm thinking skipping this generation. Pricey consoles, a lot of useless funcions in consoles and poor games.
poor games? killzone 2 , heavenly sword, gta 4, dmc4, sf4, naruto ultimate ninja storm, re5, assassins creed....need i say more?
I hear this years Madden Football ,the ball can actually go flat & you will have to buy air for it online lol:|... that would be kinda funny (it would be weird to say that I cant play cause of that, LOL)(click to show/hide)
poor games? killzone 2 , heavenly sword, gta 4, dmc4, sf4, naruto ultimate ninja storm, re5, assassins creed....need i say more?
It's fans?
poor games? gta 4, dmc4, sf4, re5....need i say more?
I don't mean that they would release a broken character, but what stops it from happening incidentally? this guy makes it sound like it's totally humanly impossible for a broken character to be made by namco.ahhh now i see what you are saying. i dont mean it like that. i mean that if they put out a cheap character and fans complain about it they will fix it or patch it up. the boss characters dont count though like algol for instance.
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fixed.
ahhh now i see what you are saying. i dont mean it like that. i mean that if they put out a cheap character and fans complain about it they will fix it or patch it up. the boss characters dont count though like algol for instance.