Eyedol (Killer Instinct Arcade) UPDATED with 3rd video

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Got the shadow move system in last night (I want Eyedol to be a complete KI character, filling in what Rare left out).

Eyedol now has a shadow version of his leap attack and triple fireballs. Also I nice little counter appears in the corner showing you how many more shadow s you have left.

Shadow moves were aquired after you performed a combo breaker. Then you could perform powered up versions of some of your moves that had a gray afterimage. That was back in 94' when afterimages in fighting games were a new thing. They lost their afterimages in the Snes version:



I also got a proper hit count display for the combo system. Will count the number of hits you dished out up to 80 just like in KI:



Eyedol's nasty infinite from the arcade version will only be able to land a limited number of hits in this version (Though the damage is so reduced by that many hits it was more annoying than broken). However after performing his Ultra he'll get it back if you want to further your show boating on an already dead character.

Dude thats awesome!

[obreck2]

Compared to most other creations, a KI character shouldn't be any more difficult to make than other accurate characters. Not to say it's easy, but a good coder could code a KI character.

Coding his hasn't been as troublesome as I thought it would. However there are some definite hurdles when bringing a KI character to Mugen:

1. While KI has a large cult following, its not as popular as say Capcom/SNK games. More creators are going to go for the  more well known games. I always feel old knowing the last KI game was made in 1995. Now on to those hurdles....

2. Ripping from the arcade port is a mess. The background disable cheat made it much easier, but the cheat is unstable and difficult to understand the instructions of. Then you still have to get your character's rather large framecount, then seperate the afterglow effects all the characters had. And the afterglow effects come out the wrong tint, since the disabled background is light gray. Transparent effects are best ripped from an all black background.

Glacius fans are double screwed with that ice mist obstructing the sprites. Shame, because he was one of the characters I considered making a followup to Eyedol.

3. KI gameplay is quite different from the standard Mugen fare. No super moves, the KI combo system, combo breakers, shadow moves, and some noticeable differences in their physics (Example: KI characters don't bounce backwards after being knocked up in the air by an opponent, they smack ground like a rock with only a small "no-vel X" bounce up.) Not exactly a good beginner's project.

But hopefully by the end of the week I'll have Eyedol complete and an open source KI template in the process. I'm on vacation and have no trips planeed so, nothing better to do in the daytime.

I'll have to include instruction for using the M1 mame sound ripping utility

[Lightblackheart]

i now understand

[Magma MK-II]

Will he have the "NO MERCY" move?

And when he wins, will the screen "SUPREME VICTORY" appear?

These are good ideas!

[malisiousjoe]

Question: Will you be able to charge and then swing his club like in the game?

[The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod]

Compared to most other creations, a KI character shouldn't be any more difficult to make than other accurate characters. Not to say it's easy, but a good coder could code a KI character.

Coding his hasn't been as troublesome as I thought it would. However there are some definite hurdles when bringing a KI character to Mugen:

1. While KI has a large cult following, its not as popular as say Capcom/SNK games. More creators are going to go for the  more well known games. I always feel old knowing the last KI game was made in 1995. Now on to those hurdles....

KI was a pretty good game, 'nuff said. Still, look at all the game characters made from pre-'95 games. Liking an old game is nothing to be ashamed of.

2. Ripping from the arcade port is a mess. The background disable cheat made it much easier, but the cheat is unstable and difficult to understand the instructions of. Then you still have to get your character's rather large framecount, then seperate the afterglow effects all the characters had. And the afterglow effects come out the wrong tint, since the disabled background is light gray. Transparent effects are best ripped from an all black background.

I really don't want to rip sprites myself. I'm pretty sure I'd screw up royally. Hell, one of my first character ideas was making a Tekken Advance Yoshimitsu.

Glacius fans are double screwed with that ice mist obstructing the sprites. Shame, because he was one of the characters I considered making a followup to Eyedol.

Good. WORK ON SABREWULF NEXT! Don't and I'll... I'll...

3. KI gameplay is quite different from the standard Mugen fare. No super moves, the KI combo system, combo breakers, shadow moves, and some noticeable differences in their physics (Example: KI characters don't bounce backwards after being knocked up in the air by an opponent, they smack ground like a rock with only a small "no-vel X" bounce up.) Not exactly a good beginner's project.

Of course it's no beginner's project. As I said, it wouldn't be easy. The combo system is do-able, as are everything else (considering there are a few characters out there that can attack while being attacked. No, I'm not counting the ones using superarmor.) As for the physics, couldn't that be altered by messing with the character's common.cns file?

But hopefully by the end of the week I'll have Eyedol complete and an open source KI template in the process. I'm on vacation and have no trips planeed so, nothing better to do in the daytime.

Of course. I won't tell anyone you're a vampire.

I'll have to include instruction for using the M1 mame sound ripping utility

[DARKTALBAIN]

This is great news I can't wait until the end of the week ! I've always like KI also . Wondered why someone never made good versions of the characters for Mugen . Now I see why , they are pretty much a pain . I'm glad your working with th KI 1 characters as opposed to KI 2 . I liked KI one much better ! 

[The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod]

Yeah. I liked KI more than KIGold/2 as well.

[obreck2]

Alright

I've managed to create a system that keeps the opponent from dying until they regain control off themselves. This allows Eyedol not be interrupted by a KO in the middle of one of his combos, P2 isn't KOed till after recovering or smacking the ground from a knock up hit. Just like Killer Instinct.

Oh, and I've completed Eyedol's Ultra Combo too   

Question: Will you be able to charge and then swing his club like in the game?

yes. he can also do his charge cancel, and charge jump cancel.

[xPreatorianx]

um how about my propisition obreck? is that cool or no you dont wanna do it? because id be glad to let you beta test my shin lv 2 akuma in exchange for beta testing your eyedol!

[malisiousjoe]

Alright

I've managed to create a system that keeps the opponent from dying until they regain control off themselves. This allows Eyedol not be interrupted by a KO in the middle of one of his combos, P2 isn't KOed till after recovering or smacking the ground from a knock up hit. Just like Killer Instinct.

Oh, and I've completed Eyedol's Ultra Combo too   

Question: Will you be able to charge and then swing his club like in the game?

yes. he can also do his charge cancel, and charge jump cancel.

[obreck2]

New video:

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New stuff it shows:

- Shadow moves. Eyedol has a shadow move version of his jump attack and fireballs he can perform after landing a combo breaker. They're the ones with the gray afterimages. I even added a little counter in for how many shadow moves you have left when you have them.

- Blood. Got all the KI blood effects in, or at least all the ones Eyedol uses. I even incorporated my colored blood system. Notice Reptile bleeds green in the video?

- P2 won't KO in the middle of a combo. They'll KO after recovering or hitting the ground like in KI.

- Better projectile FX. Added more sparks and the all move more at random. Also added in the burning effect to P2 that the arcade KI had when you hit with a projectile. Shame Mario was the only one who actually got hit with one of Eyedol's projectiles... but at least you can see the FX then.

- The Ultra Combo! I thinking of replacing the hop part with a few projectile shots. Any thoughts on that idea?

- After landing an Ultra Eyedol can perform his infinite juggle to add insult to an already defeated opponent. There's a juggle cap on it normally in my version.

um how about my propisition obreck? is that cool or no you dont wanna do it? because id be glad to let you beta test my shin lv 2 akuma in exchange for beta testing your eyedol!

I might be willing to trade betas by the weekend. By then I should have the danger mode in. After that before a public release I want to build in a KI character detection system, for accurate breaker timings, reflected projectiles, etc when 2 KI characters built off my Eyedol mold battle. Letting someone or two look at it and test things I may not have thought of would be helpful.

[BigJ]

Wow... that really got me hyped up. You are a god Obreck.

[Magma MK-II]

57 HITS! 

Will he have the "NO MERCY!"?

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Wow... that really got me hyped up. You are a god Obreck.

Thats why I liked KI, the combo announcer, and the fast paced combos get you really hyped up.

[DARKTALBAIN]

    OMG ! I love this character can't wait for him to come out !

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ultra cooomboooo    amazing.

[malisiousjoe]

Wow you updated a lot in a little time...amazing!

[DarkMoonWolf]

Impressive character.
Like to try him out when he is released

  Wonder why many people found him a ugly and an bad end boss.
I always liked him 

[obreck2]

New video showing off finishers:

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He's getting close to completion. Just a few more adjustments, another no mercy move and a universal combo breaker system so non KI characters can escape his combos.

[DARKTALBAIN]

Dude , that's Awesome !!!!

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I love the Matt humiliation.

[★Leon★]

Eyedol is gonna rock 
also..

I love the Matt humiliation.

[♦ßlôödÑinjå♦]

wow poor erick

[obreck2]

wow poor erick

Yeah, but he's tough. Took an impalement and got right back up to throw a tantrum for losing

That fatality does lose a bit of its effect on characters that get up after losing.