Author Topic: New Lex Luthor beta released (Read 2762 times)

Buyog · « **on:** September 28, 2008, 01:47:59 PM »

In case y'all hadn't seen it yet. I don't visit over here very often, but I could use more eyes on this guy ==> means better/more feedback that way.

As I promised earlier in the week on my blog, here's the latest Lex Luthor update. He has all the following updates over the alpha release from last January:

- 27 Sep 2008: Beta 1b
- fixed bug in Failsafe Emission
- added air version of Failsafe Emission (& you can can combo into it!)
- lots of minor bugfixes and combo tweaks throughout
- added Special: Tyrant Drill
- added shocked, frozen special anims

- 25 Sep 2008: Beta 1
- tweaked Special: Stiletto Blade (it's now an expansion-type move, for one thing)
- added Special: Electrified Armor
- added Hyper: Failsafe Emission
- added Hyper: Nanite Swarm
- added fwd/back dashes
- added new sound effects, voices, and effect sparks

All in all, he's a much more solid character than he was before: 4 specials, 2 hypers, pretty decent AI, etc. Still quite a bit more we plan to do with him before he's done, but I felt like I needed to get him out there for all y'all to start playing with. Enjoy, post any feedback/ bug reports here.

Get Lex Luthor Beta 1b here: http://www.buyog.com/MUGEN/lex.html
or in the ScruffyDragon downlad section

KPT25 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 28, 2008, 01:55:39 PM »

nice buyog...thx for coming here and letting us know of the release...
Beta 1 had the same time as my birthday...

I'll test him out now that Lex reached beta release once i get home tomorrow...agains,congratulations and keep up the good job!

That Mugen Guy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 28, 2008, 01:56:39 PM »

nice one buyog trying him out now

desgrav · « **Reply #3 on:** September 28, 2008, 02:01:38 PM »

Very interesting. Thank you Buyog I'll keep my eyes on him.

I hope you visit more often though.

aristotle · « **Reply #4 on:** September 28, 2008, 02:24:05 PM »

i just posted this in news cause i didnt see in in these forums. but as i clicked the post button i saw that u had already posted so i had to take it off

lex is lookin' amazing. keep up the good work.

lobo in that last pic looks hilarious

aPoCaLyPsE · « **Reply #5 on:** September 28, 2008, 05:28:02 PM »

I noticed this at the SD spot the other day but it slipped my mind. I'm glad you decided to annouce your work here as well. Downloading now, thanks for the share man and welcome to infinity, don't be a stranger.

-"aPoC."

Nilakantha · « **Reply #6 on:** September 28, 2008, 05:42:53 PM »

I am a huge fan of your work, thanks for the download.

Jedah12 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 28, 2008, 06:02:16 PM »

I like your others chars, all are excellent job, especially Lobo and Green Lantern.
I'll try to Lex Luthor, thanxs for share your chars

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #8 on:** September 28, 2008, 06:41:16 PM »

Congrats on the release . Thanx for giving us the heads up on it here .

laspacho · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2008, 10:29:57 PM »

Great character. I am excited to play him.

~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ · « **Reply #10 on:** September 29, 2008, 12:56:25 AM »

Buyog i hear u have been looking for more ideas for your lex, well u have come to the right place, i have in the past made two hyper moves for your lex and, and i want to show them to u and everybody here at IMT

First off guys i will show you,
The Krytonic Blast

This was the first move i made for Buyog's Lex, it uses the same beam as the classic shinku hadoken from the mvc ryu but instead of many hits it just one big blast
and it knocks you to the side of the screen too

I needed a projectile hyper,and this is what had came to mind.... it's one of the first hypers i have ever done for mugen too...

Now we move along to my next hyper i made for Buyog's Lex, its called
The Tyrant Finisher

Its basically where Lex charges at you with all of his might and keeps hitting u in your gut, hard as he possibly can like 4 times, and then time freezes and he laughs and then he hits you one more time, but this time its with a big uppercut that sends you flying into the air.... See why i call it The Tyrant Finisher

Now guys these moves r not in buyog's beta, only in mine, and well i am here to ask, buyog would u consider adding these moves to your characters.... I hope u will cus whatever u end up with when u get finshed with him im still gonan have those hypers added into my own personal version of your lex

If u guys want it, then tell buyog to add them in

Excursion · « **Reply #11 on:** September 29, 2008, 01:30:30 AM »

That looks terrific Race. You should go over and register at Scruffy D (if you haven't already..) and PM him this also. As for everyone else... post feedback on Lex in this thread so Buyog can fix the bugs.

laspacho · « **Reply #12 on:** September 29, 2008, 08:51:06 AM »

Quote from: Excursion on September 29, 2008, 01:30:30 AM

That looks terrific Race. You should go over and register at Scruffy D (if you haven't already..) and PM him this also. As for everyone else... post feedback on Lex in this thread so Buyog can fix the bugs.

Cool extra moves definitely show Buyog, I always remember Buyog saying all help is welcome.

Acey · « **Reply #13 on:** September 29, 2008, 09:28:50 AM »

And it sounds like Buyog is looking for some strong beta testing so he can get closer to the final release. Let's make sure he's not disapointed.

Spidermew · « **Reply #14 on:** September 29, 2008, 10:19:29 AM »

Well I did find something weird.
If you back the enemy into a corner, you can use the hardpunch to launch them, and then when they fall you can time it so you can combo with the hard punch forever, it kills Wonder Woman by the 11th hit but i can personaly get it to go 40 times before axidently let her drop.

Alexziq · « **Reply #15 on:** September 29, 2008, 10:46:25 AM »

A pleasant surprise indeed, I hope to see more of you round these parts.

Lex is a tough one to be origional with since he's a master manipulator opposed to a combatant. Since his power Gauntlets are massively powerful I'd recommed using a couple of differant colored rays that have some differant P2 state effects to simulate the differant Kryptonite colored energy blasts.

Spidermew · « **Reply #16 on:** September 29, 2008, 11:07:41 AM »

Quote from: ALEXZIQ on September 29, 2008, 10:46:25 AM

A pleasant surprise indeed, I hope to see more of you round these parts.

Lex is a tough one to be origional with since he's a master manipulator opposed to a combatant. Since his power Gauntlets are massively powerful I'd recommed using a couple of differant colored rays that have some differant P2 state effects to simulate the differant Kryptonite colored energy blasts.

A Pink Kryptonite Midnight Bliss Ray perhpas?

George Costanza · « **Reply #17 on:** September 29, 2008, 12:05:46 PM »

i dont know if u know but theres sum1 who claims to have a mr.freeze but its a clear rip off of your lex lurther but just in black is all

did u make him open source

Alexziq · « **Reply #18 on:** September 29, 2008, 01:37:16 PM »

Quote from: Dr.FeelGood on September 29, 2008, 12:05:46 PM

i dont know if u know but theres sum1 who claims to have a mr.freeze but its a clear rip off of your lex lurther but just in black is all

did u make him open source

I personally wouldnt bring that up, and Im sure he knows about Kang Anals sloppy Mr Freeze palette swap. Open Source or not somebodys always going to edit something and trade it around. I'm sure buyog is more concerned with perfecting and creating quality characters than worry about some guy screwing around on the net.

alex87 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 29, 2008, 01:56:03 PM »

amazingggggggg

~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ · « **Reply #20 on:** September 29, 2008, 03:32:30 PM »

Ok buyog, i just sent u the link to my edited version of your old lex with my new moves in there... I hope you like what i made, pm me when u get a chance...

.:K.I.N.G:. · « **Reply #21 on:** September 29, 2008, 04:05:25 PM »

congrats on the release .. i like it very much

here is my beta testing report

1-his Tyrant Drill can be infinite if he hit the enemy while the enemy is in the air, i can keep repeating the move and hit the enemy every time preventing the enemy from falling.

2-if you do a forward dash then cancel it into a jump the the nitro sparks that comes from behind his foots in the forward dash is still showing while he jumps and the nitro spark that supposed to come out from his foot while jumping is not there..i think it's an explode binding thing

3-when the Kryptonite Ray hits the enemy the hit and fall timing seem a bit delayed and slow, the enemy seem like he faking being hit

same goes if the enemy gets hit by it while in the air.

4-his forward dash is a bit slow for a dash

5-if you try launching the enemy using close hp then hitting him using Kryptonite Ray while the enemy is falling from being launched, the enemy will not look effected by the hit of the Kryptonite Ray..custom gethit thing i think

6-when Failsafe Emission is finished hitting the enemy while the enemy on ground it leaves the enemy in landing recovery like stat...my guess it's cus it dosen't make the enemy fall but maybe the hitdef has a y = - something in ground velocity trigger....i haven't looked btw so that's just a guess.

7-aerial rave combo is a bit hard to perfect.

i have some smee small suggestions
1-the guy is in an armor suite so maybe some hit shakes will be good for the looks
2-some metal hit and get sounds will be good too
3-maybe making the combo chaining a bit easier cus it requires to be a bit fast to press the buttons right now.

Buyog · « **Reply #22 on:** September 29, 2008, 06:34:16 PM »

Mr.47: awesome, thanks for the detailed feedback, I'll check it out later.

Oops, forgot to add juggle-checking to the launcher. Nice catch, Spidermew.

R@ace: thanks for the offer... I responded in the release thread over at SD.

And yeah, I know about the Mr.Freeze... it was actually built on top of the totally-crappy LEAKED Lex, not even the public alpha, so yeah, I'm not too worried about him. :

:

As for other-colored kryptonites... hmm...

~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ · « **Reply #23 on:** September 29, 2008, 06:46:36 PM »

Buyog i sent the character to u, over at Scruffy, but i can't see where u told mewhat u thought, all i see is that u told me to send it over

Buyog · « **Reply #24 on:** September 29, 2008, 07:15:25 PM »

R@ce: yeah, I just barely grabbed it and replied now... I'll definitely take a look at it tonight.

George Costanza · « **Reply #25 on:** September 29, 2008, 07:57:32 PM »

Quote from: Buyog on September 29, 2008, 06:34:16 PM

Mr.47: awesome, thanks for the detailed feedback, I'll check it out later.

Oops, forgot to add juggle-checking to the launcher. Nice catch, Spidermew.

R@ace: thanks for the offer... I responded in the release thread over at SD.

And yeah, I know about the Mr.Freeze... it was actually built on top of the totally-crappy LEAKED Lex, not even the public alpha, so yeah, I'm not too worried about him. ::

As for other-colored kryptonites... hmm...

ok then thats good i guess i just wanted to give u a lil heads up about it

but thats great then this 1 is much better then the last beta great work

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! · « **Reply #26 on:** September 29, 2008, 08:21:23 PM »

Much Better! A more formidable opponent!

Barrysun · « **Reply #27 on:** September 29, 2008, 09:40:16 PM »

well, after downloading the character and giving him a test run, I"ve founded a bug in the AI right off the bat, in round 1 before the fight even begins, he ATTACKS you before the fight even starts! but over all, he is a decent challange. (I waited until he was updated to around a beta stage,)

Acey · « **Reply #28 on:** September 30, 2008, 03:43:27 AM »

I'm just happy he's so far long... all the basics, 3 specials, 2 hypers... and you're still moving forward with Lex. Coupled together with Wucah's stage this is a great addition to the DCvM project! Yeah!

My favorite parts are the animtions, especially the details on the intro.

Buyog · « **Reply #29 on:** September 30, 2008, 10:41:14 PM »

Barry -- yeah, I thought I'd fixed that... I'll correct it in the next update.

Barrysun · « **Reply #30 on:** October 01, 2008, 12:41:55 PM »

thanks. and other stuff that could make this character better opponent is to fix up the timing he does his Failsafe Emission super move, sometimes he does it for no reasion and it leaves him wide open for an attack once he's done. (remembers my test drive with my edited voicepack for MSdensky's Link.)

Jelux Da Casual · « **Reply #31 on:** October 01, 2008, 02:28:09 PM »

Ok, I first I thought it was just me, but now I'm not sure.

Whenever I try out Buyog's characters, they seem really stiff and unresponsive (inability to combo, rigid special commands, etc) till I run them through with Dos2Win, sans the .sff file of course. Is there something wrong with my mugen.exe or what?

Acey · « **Reply #32 on:** October 01, 2008, 03:07:34 PM »

Quote from: G Lux of the A.H.K. on October 01, 2008, 02:28:09 PM

Ok, I first I thought it was just me, but now I'm not sure.

Whenever I try out Buyog's characters, they seem really stiff and unresponsive (inability to combo, rigid special commands, etc) till I run them through with Dos2Win, sans the .sff file of course. Is there something wrong with my mugen.exe or what?

I know what you're talking about. Actually this is what has always made Buyog one of my favorite creators. The thing is that with Strong Guy, Lobo, Ice, etc... Buyog didn't over power them like the rest of us did. He characters combo in a maner very acurate to the real MvC style and does less damage than many of the newer characters these days. Infinity's EoH characters tend to use a combo system based off of MvC2 Guile's which makes comboing more user friendly all though we still use those traditionally low damanges to increase the length of matches. These days you'll find many new characters who can combo in just about any combination and do

of damage. One example is Deadpool who combos very easily, does a larger amount of damage and can even connect certain standing attack you while you crouch block. Notice if you pull our your old copy of MvC, none of the characters combo nearly as easily as mugen characters do nowadays.(except button mashing Wolverine and Cyclops) You have to learn the characters combos and use them properly. This is the same way with Buyog's stuff.

Buyog · « **Reply #33 on:** October 01, 2008, 11:07:51 PM »

Yeah, I may be in the minority with this, but I like the older, more skill-oriented games in the Marvel Vs series. X-Men vs Street Fighter is probably my fave, and Marvel vs Capcom (1) is a close second. MvC2 annoyed the heck out of me. All "sound & fury," if you will.

Plus I keep my mugen difficulty cranked up all the way, and the speed on fast 1. So your mileage may vary with different settings...

.:K.I.N.G:. · « **Reply #34 on:** October 02, 2008, 12:51:17 AM »

Quote from: Buyog on October 01, 2008, 11:07:51 PM

Yeah, I may be in the minority with this, but I like the older, more skill-oriented games in the Marvel Vs series. X-Men vs Street Fighter is probably my fave, and Marvel vs Capcom (1) is a close second. MvC2 annoyed the heck out of me. All "sound & fury," if you will.

Plus I keep my mugen difficulty cranked up all the way, and the speed on fast 1. So your mileage may vary with different settings...

i usually test on speed 3 cus it's the speed that my brother plays on..lex did seem a bit slow on speed 3
but i figured that it was intended.

The Anvil · « **Reply #35 on:** October 02, 2008, 02:50:52 PM »

my only problem is that he seems to shrink when he walks
other than that, its awesome, very very nice.

Buyog · « **Reply #36 on:** October 02, 2008, 11:12:53 PM »

Quote from: The Anvil on October 02, 2008, 02:50:52 PM

my only problem is that he seems to shrink when he walks
other than that, its awesome, very very nice.

Yeah, I need to fix that. And he could use a different backwards walk too.

Diek Stiekem · « **Reply #37 on:** October 05, 2008, 02:06:08 PM »

Besides from the already mentioned HP infinite in the corner, I couldn't find any more glitches on the fast play through I gave him.
However you should consider giving his Failsafe Emission properties of MvC Chun Li's Kikousho (i.e. being shielded from projectiles and beams)

Buyog · « **Reply #38 on:** October 05, 2008, 10:10:52 PM »

Good point... I'll definitely need to change that.

♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ · « **Reply #39 on:** October 06, 2008, 02:21:50 AM »

really enjoy this character thank you for the update.

x_mad80 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 08, 2008, 02:55:41 PM »

very nice, but just one off topic

question. progress on savage hulk , and parasite?

Remy_LeBeau · « **Reply #41 on:** October 09, 2008, 09:25:21 PM »

finally! he looks awesome, can't wait to try him out.

Buyog · « **Reply #42 on:** October 14, 2008, 11:25:59 PM »

Quote from: x_mad80 on October 08, 2008, 02:55:41 PM

very nice, but just one off topic  question. progress on savage hulk , and parasite?

I can only focus on one character at a time if I want to ever actually finish them.

Once good ol' President Luthor's been "inaugurated" next month,
then my attention turns to the Talented Mr. Banner.

Oh, and a teaser vid for the upcoming Luthor Beta 2, for those of you who are interested:

ItalianStallion · « **Reply #43 on:** October 14, 2008, 11:59:33 PM »

Quote from: Buyog on October 14, 2008, 11:25:59 PM

I can only focus on one character at a time if I want to ever actually finish them.
Once good ol' President Luthor's been "inaugurated" next month,
then my attention turns to the Talented Mr. Banner.

Oh, and a teaser vid for the upcoming Luthor Beta 2, for those of you who are interested:

Wow this version looks a lot more complete, will be looking forward to it. Also, when will you be adding his face to the hyper portrait?

~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ · « **Reply #44 on:** October 15, 2008, 05:38:30 PM »

hey buyog, i see the new move is looking good, where is the other one?.... Did u not like it or are u editing it around a bit?.... or saving it for the release

Captain Cold · « **Reply #45 on:** October 15, 2008, 06:47:56 PM »

Hey Buyog

I have a quick question? Is luthor going to have any special moves just for when he fight superman or any special abilities that activate when fighting superman? thanks

Buyog · « **Reply #46 on:** October 15, 2008, 11:07:40 PM »

R@CE: They're both in the vid, I think. Both are mostly done, although they might get tweaked a bit more.

IStallion: heh, I know... I've got a couple of portrait submissions I may use instead of that placeholder, but they're not in the right style at the moment.

CapCold: well, there's the Kryptonite Ray, of course. And I thought I might add a kryptonite knife to his melee hyper when fighting Supes...

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