Author Topic: Venom:Mac Gargan WIP (Read 5106 times)

Toxin · « **on:** August 19, 2008, 11:40:51 PM »

Forum Contest!!!!!
Hey guys and gals. As you may or may not know Useless and I have been working on a Venom Mac Gargan for Marvel the Outsiders for some time now. We decided that it would be really cool to set up a contest for one of two moves we have left. We did have some ideas in mind but then we decided that it would be more fun to have a contest. This way some of the fans and friends will get the opportunity to contribute to this project. So, please join in.

The two moves up for grabs are a jumping weak punch of which we would like to see Venom biting such as this.

Or a crouching weak kick of which we would like to see his foot morphing into a stinger for a stinging move such as this:

These animations you can use as guides to what we are looking for. These are suggestions though of what we would like to see but if you have a different idea, that goes along with the character, and that Wows us, then we might incorporate that too. So, get those creative juices flowing. We will have the contest open for an indefinite time or until we see something that really catches our attention. The extra time will give the less experienced sprites a shoot and will also give those of us with little time to spare, the opportunity to contribute. Please get in what you can in as soon as possible though.

At this link you will find three sprites sheets that have all the Venom bodies recolored to our colors. Two we compiled ourselves.
RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting]Rapidshare[/url]

Here is a direct link to a Sabertooth Spritesheet that we are also using but do not have recolored. Sprite Database

Here is a link to Mugen china were you can find Neo Dio. He has served as inpiration many times in the past. Mugen China:Neo Dio

Here are the colors for the Skin, slime, and teeth. Our sheets only contain the skin recolored. The eye and spider colors are the same but may vary darker/lighter as needed.

And if you can't sprite to save your life then maybe you can help by offering up suggestions.

Also, to all of you who consider yourselves killer spriters "Show Us What You Got!!!" If you have any ?'s or if you are going to participate please post so that we know. Thanks and Good Luck.

aPoCaLyPsE · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:45:07 PM »

Looks interesting enough, so I'll start things off. It's still rough (v0.2) but I wanna play with it's a little more to get rid of some of that jerk and add a little more flow (v0.3).

Kick Version: 0.2

Whattcha think fams?

-"aPoC."

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:50:19 PM »

Quote from: aPoCaLyPsE on September 01, 2008, 04:45:07 PM

Looks interesting enough, so I'll start things off. It's still rough (v0.2) but I wanna play with it's a little more to get rid of some of that jerk and add a little more flow (v0.3).

Kick Version: 0.2

Whattcha think fams?

-"aPoC."

Great idea . I think that looks pretty sweet ! Did you use Q-Bee's stinger ?

aPoCaLyPsE · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2008, 04:57:32 PM »

Quote from: DARKTALBAIN on September 01, 2008, 04:50:19 PM

Great idea . I think that looks pretty sweet ! Did you use Q-Bee's stinger ?

Freehand actaully. MsPaint all the way baby!

-"aPoC."

SPOOKY77 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2008, 05:46:09 PM »

Ill take a stab at the jumping weak punch....my idea is Macs fist will turn into set of teeth to bite...how does that sound? And...the rapid share file isnt there

Toxin · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2008, 11:12:12 PM »

@ Apoc. First of all thanks.

Secondly, when I first saw your animation it made me think of these sprites and how they might work too. If you like it, you could cut on the spriting by using the first sprite in the original instead of the first two of these. Of couse, this is really rough.

@Spooky Great to hear it. I fixed the link.

To make it fair, I will offer up suggestions on anyone who post an animation to make it fair. You should make the animation your own.

Oh, here is the color swap for Saber just in case anyone is thinking of using his sprites.

aPoCaLyPsE · « **Reply #6 on:** September 02, 2008, 11:59:47 PM »

Quote from: Toxin on September 01, 2008, 11:12:12 PM

@ Apoc. First of all thanks. Secondly, when I first saw your animation it made me think of these sprites and how they might work too. If you like it, you could cut on the spriting by using the first sprite in the original instead of the first two of these. Of couse, this is really rough.

No prob! Saving now... I see what I can mix up.

Acey · « **Reply #7 on:** September 05, 2008, 08:34:35 PM »

Apoc, it's like he's the ace in the hole.

SPOOKY77 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 06, 2008, 03:31:58 AM »

Hey Toxin...here are a few (alpha version

) sprites I did tonight...I just wanted to see what you thought about this move...when its done venoms head will come down farther and bite the other player before returning to its body all in mid air...I havent drawn the right spider on macs chest yet and there are some color issues but you can get my concept...

aPoCaLyPsE · « **Reply #9 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:41:41 PM »

Quote from: aPoCaLyPsE on September 02, 2008, 11:59:47 PM

Quote from: Toxin on September 01, 2008, 11:12:12 PM
@ Apoc. First of all thanks. Secondly, when I first saw your animation it made me think of these sprites and how they might work too. If you like it, you could cut on the spriting by using the first sprite in the original instead of the first two of these. Of couse, this is really rough.

No prob! Saving now... I see what I can mix up.

Still mixing. I worked 12+ hours on friday and 10 hours thursday and today(sat.). I can't wait for my 5 day weekend to hit..

-"aPoC."

SPOOKY77 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2008, 01:45:11 AM »

Actually..forget my first idea

..here is a rough animation of my final concept..I need to add maybe 2 more sprites to make it flow better but its getting close...

Watcha think?

Toxin · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2008, 06:30:42 PM »

Sorry I missed your ideas bro.Like I mentioned in the detailed pm it shows lots of promise.

Quote from: Acey on September 05, 2008, 08:34:35 PM

Apoc, it's like he's the ace in the hole.

Useless · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2008, 06:36:56 PM »

Spook, your latest edit was a fine effort but we Toxin and I are looking to give this Venom the least possible look alikes with the Capcom Venom, so we can't have a move that is exactly the other Venom's move only with an edited logo and eyes and a tail. Be creative, you can have any part of his body morph into a bite, from his hands to the tip of his tail, just don't use the legs, or we would have to call it a kick instead of a punch.

Tenspeed · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2008, 10:55:50 PM »

Quote from: SPOOKY77 on September 06, 2008, 03:31:58 AM

Hey Toxin...here are a few (alpha version ) sprites I did tonight...I just wanted to see what you thought about this move...when its done venoms head will come down farther and bite the other player before returning to its body all in mid air...I havent drawn the right spider on macs chest yet and there are some color issues but you can get my concept...

I think this one has promise personally. you could have him lean forward, maybe flip after the bite.

SPOOKY77 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 18, 2008, 05:09:33 PM »

Quote from: Useless on September 17, 2008, 06:36:56 PM

Spook, your latest edit was a fine effort but we Toxin and I are looking to give this Venom the least possible look alikes with the Capcom Venom, so we can't have a move that is exactly the other Venom's move only with an edited logo and eyes and a tail. Be creative, you can have any part of his body morph into a bite, from his hands to the tip of his tail, just don't use the legs, or we would have to call it a kick instead of a punch.

Hey Useless...I told Toxin I wasn't really sure about using the bits from the old venom I just wanted to see how they turned out

...I do like the body positioning of the second anim so it will be no big deal for me to edit that into something frankensprited or hand drawn...thanks for the comments too man....Ill post something new soon

Quote from: Tenspeed on September 17, 2008, 10:55:50 PM

Quote from: SPOOKY77 on September 06, 2008, 03:31:58 AM
Hey Toxin...here are a few (alpha version ) sprites I did tonight...I just wanted to see what you thought about this move...when its done venoms head will come down farther and bite the other player before returning to its body all in mid air...I havent drawn the right spider on macs chest yet and there are some color issues but you can get my concept...

I think this one has promise personally. you could have him lean forward, maybe flip after the bite.

Thanks Tenspeed...What do you guys think about this?

Lasher · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2008, 05:44:33 PM »

Looks pretty cool to me. Just, you have to make it mac gargans face.

Useless · « **Reply #16 on:** January 15, 2009, 08:21:29 PM »

Hi everybody, a lot of time has gone by and we have some news:

Mac has a new coder: Apocalypse

Toxin and I have done progress on many moves, some of them not yet coded due to Apoc's busy agenda with real life and also MUGEN stuff. Only a couple of basics missing, most specials done and a couple of hypers in the works

Here's a video showing an early version Apoc put together with some of the new basics not included in Grave's version and some of the old ones plus a pallette I find in every sense of the word 'creepy'.

It's still a very early version and there's obviously lots to be done. Just know that we continue working on him and now with Apoc's help we hope to be able to show progress videos more oftenly

Enjoy as far as you can

We'll be back with more news

Useless out

.Batzarro. · « **Reply #17 on:** January 15, 2009, 11:23:51 PM »

Really great looking stuff here. Loving everything I'm seeing and this feels more like the way Venom should of originally fought.

BTW, did I see two different stances for him.? Different modes perhaps.?

Serious Cat · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2009, 03:55:29 AM »

Wow. I can't really say anything to help except that the tail still doesn't look quite right in-game. I think it's the shading, but the shading on something like that is extremely hard to do.

I like the Anti-Venom palette, tho. It looks really good!

Weapon x program · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2009, 05:24:05 AM »

IMPRESSIVE ANTI VENOM PALETTE

deadmangunner · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:47:43 AM »

WOW that looks really good so far. One question though what is that song you used for the video cause it sounds really good.

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #21 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:48:41 AM »

Anti Venom palette

Love it

Useless · « **Reply #22 on:** January 16, 2009, 04:49:26 PM »

Thanks guys. A couple of comments:

The two stances are two versions, the new one vs the old one. Just to show what chenged between one and the other

So far Toxin and I don't find anything wrong with the tail, but from the very start we knew people were going to go 50-50 on liking the tail so it's understandable. As for the being in-game the tail is going to be key in many attacks

I advise whenever you hear something you like and want to know the name of the song or artist you should pay close attention to one or two phrases from the song and google: lyrics + part of the lyrics you understood. The name of the song is Inner Sanctuary by the way and it's form the album Nuclear Blast All Stars

The Anti Venom pallette credit goes fully to Apocalypse, I merely suggested it but he made it happen (I don't know how to build pallettes)

aPoCaLyPsE · « **Reply #23 on:** January 16, 2009, 05:34:47 PM »

Glad to see you guys went ahead and placed a video up.

I do apologize again, as I was telling the rest of the family, my turn around time was expected to be early 2009, and I've kinda got a handle on things again. I took these back in mid december but had no internet to upload em.

As noted "Mac" is still early so expect more news to come.

-"aPoC."

KenFan9276 - Member of CROM · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2009, 02:27:12 PM »

Quote from: aPoCaLyPsE on January 16, 2009, 05:34:47 PM

Glad to see you guys went ahead and placed a video up.

I do apologize again, as I was telling the rest of the family, my turn around time was expected to be early 2009, and I've kinda got a handle on things again. I took these back in mid december but had no internet to upload em.

As noted "Mac" is still early so expect more news to come.

-"aPoC."

Is there a link on Mediafire or Rapidshare?

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #25 on:** January 17, 2009, 03:23:37 PM »

Quote from: KenFan9276 on January 17, 2009, 02:27:12 PM

Is there a link on Mediafire or Rapidshare?

He's in the WIP section , bud . They are still working on him .

SPOOKY77 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 17, 2009, 05:11:09 PM »

I'm glad this project is back on track

I remember posting some stuff for this contest...

some of the first sprites I did

SX DynX · « **Reply #27 on:** January 17, 2009, 06:28:59 PM »

Good luck

with this Wip he look really good so far .

spiderclone · « **Reply #28 on:** January 18, 2009, 07:57:48 AM »

will he be released fast cause i still wait o have punisher

tekkendarkangle · « **Reply #29 on:** May 15, 2009, 05:48:40 PM »

So when do you think you character will be release and I just want to also know how fast the progress is with your venom

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Useless · « **Reply #30 on:** July 27, 2009, 02:15:54 PM »

We enter a new stage in the development of this character not only because of another coder change and his inclusion in the MSH2 project (Mac will play differently as adapted to the gameplay from each project, don't worry about having replicate characters), but also because Toxin and I will have to do over the old stuff we had done to improve the character spritewise.

Here's a video showcasing Venom's current play. There are still moves either ready or nearing completion that aren't being shown yet. There are plenty specials that we'll be showcasing somewhere in the future but not yet. So far you can appreciate almost all of his basic animations, some are still in out "to do" list.

Thanks for supporting our WIP. Don't expect new stuff so soon but be confident new stuff will come.

Uche, our last coder, Apocalypse, had too much stuff to deal with in real life and told us he wasn't going to be able to handle anymore WIPs other than his own.

Weapon x program · « **Reply #31 on:** July 27, 2009, 02:30:49 PM »

HELLO useless, glad to see you are still working on him, great idea to add a video where he face venom so we can see the work you did on the sprites. I would suggest an hyper where he eats the opponent.
Good luck on him.

x_mad80 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 27, 2009, 06:23:41 PM »

this char looks sick.

GodzillaKingofMonste · « **Reply #33 on:** July 28, 2009, 05:29:37 AM »

Quote from: JASONTODD on January 16, 2009, 05:24:05 AM

IMPRESSIVE ANTI VENOM PALETTE

i've got an Anti Venom pallet for normal venom if you or any one else wants it
just ask and i'll send it in an email

Darkmanx_429 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 29, 2009, 08:07:46 PM »

I just thought of something, this Venom is Mac Gargan, are you guys gonna change up the Eddie Brock sprites? (Kinda have too)

GodzillaKingofMonste · « **Reply #35 on:** July 30, 2009, 12:07:09 AM »

well from the sprite of Gargan with the suit off his face all they have to do is shrink the nose a little and shape the chin differently and they already got him balld

Worksa8 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 01, 2009, 04:49:44 PM »

This looks GREAT! I can't wait for him, or at least a set release date.
Also, is Toxin a possible future project? Please say yes, he is my second favorite marvel character right now! (also, I have voice acted sounds for him. A friend did a really good impersonation of what he thought Toxin would sound like with/without the symbiote on.)