Author Topic: Symbiote Ken WIP (By Sonic7) (Read 4024 times)

Lothar-Ex · « **on:** July 09, 2008, 12:30:08 AM »

Ok now before i start the thread i would like to say Dave is on hold but i will get back to work on him soon and i am useing some of Ken X's code for only a few moves, so far i have only used his code for Shoryukken (he will be credited)

Current progress:65%
Stand Basics:100%
Crouch Basics:100%
air Basics 90%
Blocks: 100%
Get hits: 35%

Specail moves progress:90%
Haduoken: 100%
Shoryukken: 90% (need to do the Sound)
Hurricane kick:100%
Symbiote Goo Trap:100%
(Code from Sludge's Spiderman Sound from Scar Some Sprites From Grim and Bonzai and projectile by LameLikeMike)

Symbiote Snakes: In consideration

Hypers:
Shinku Haduoken: 0%
3 fire Shoryukken: 0%
Still thinking of more hypers

Screenshots:

Stance

Low Punch

Stand Block and Medium Punch

Crouch Block and High Punch

Haduoken

Haduoken Hit

Shoryukken (ken X code and sound used)

Shoryukken 2 (Ken X Code and Sound and fire sprites used)

Shoryukken 3 (Ken X Code and sound used)

Symbiote Goo Trap

(Projectile)

(Trapped)

Normal Hurricane Kick (Coding from Ryu X)

Symbiote Hurricane Kick (Coding from Ryu X Idea By LameLikeMike)

Intro

GIF of Intro

Revised Intro 2

Also if you noticed He now Has Another Pallete and his effects are color swapable

Well thats my progress please comment and tell me some ideas

BEATMASTERMIKE · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:33:14 AM »

Have symbiote ken doing a shoryuken with fire coming from his fist like the one from street fighter III 3rd strike have him do a hurricane kick/Tatsumaki senpukyaku

ATiC3 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:39:44 AM »

From the 2 hadou-ken pics... it doesn't look like there's anything special about the hadou-kens... maybe you can spice them up.. VENOM style!

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:54:59 AM »

Quote from: ATICE on July 09, 2008, 12:39:44 AM

From the 2 hadou-ken pics... it doesn't look like there's anything special about the hadou-kens... maybe you can spice them up.. VENOM style!

I agree , add some Venom style to the hadokens . Glad he is in the WIP section now

Draco · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:34:34 AM »

lmao,

it looks like its going to be a fun to play character. it looks cool.

cHoMp · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2008, 04:10:02 AM »

yeah he looks good

he reminds me to Rario, hehe

god luck with your wip

disisserr · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2008, 06:16:42 AM »

the head and arms are too big.. but other that that its really nice

moonmaster1 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2008, 07:01:20 AM »

maybe ken can stretch out his symbiote to make his arms bigger in attacks like dhalshim or brocken from world heroes. either that or you can give him a set of bigger legs, akuma always needed that as he was just as tall as ryu ingame but in everything else, akuma was a hulking monster!!! symbiote ken should have that menacing appeal to him, awesome to play as him but the scariest thing in the world to face him, like hulk on mvc in expert mode.

warner · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2008, 07:15:32 AM »

I like it.

I prefer this kind of new Ken, with edits, than the other that just change the palette and say are evil, angry, angel, etc.
Good Luck.

btw. you should let him Ken's hair

Zerok_116 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:01:40 PM »

wow never thought of that

LameLikeMike · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:01:26 PM »

i really like the idea, but i think that the edits need a bit more . . . wel editing i guess, like for instance, carry the dark outlike you get in the venom sprites throughout the character, im talking mostly about the feet, oh and it wouldn't hurt to add some symbiote goo to the hadou-ken sprites similar to the stuff hanging off the shield

TÐZ · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:20:19 PM »

He needs Ken's face of course with venom like features

aristotle · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:57:23 PM »

are you going to have an intro with him transforming from his regular look into this symbiote one?

nick09 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:24:08 PM »

Quote from: aristotle on July 09, 2008, 01:57:23 PM

are you going to have an intro with him transforming from his regular look into this symbiote one?

That is a good idea!

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:24:27 PM »

Quote from: ATICE on July 09, 2008, 12:39:44 AM

From the 2 hadou-ken pics... it doesn't look like there's anything special about the hadou-kens... maybe you can spice them up.. VENOM style!

How do you added venom style to a haduoken

Quote from: aristotle on July 09, 2008, 01:57:23 PM

are you going to have an intro with him transforming from his regular look into this symbiote one?

Maybe

Quote from: LameLikeMike on July 09, 2008, 01:01:26 PM

i really like the idea, but i think that the edits need a bit more . . . wel editing i guess, like for instance, carry the dark outlike you get in the venom sprites throughout the character, im talking mostly about the feet, oh and it wouldn't hurt to add some symbiote goo to the hadou-ken sprites similar to the stuff hanging off the shield

What do you mean by adding symbiote goo to a haduoken

Quote from: warner on July 09, 2008, 07:15:32 AM

I like it.
I prefer this kind of new Ken, with edits, than the other that just change the palette and say are evil, angry, angel, etc.
Good Luck.

btw. you should let him Ken's  hair 

hmmm Ken hair (runs to his sprites and makes a mock up of symbiote ken with hair)

Lol

Quote from: The Dude Z on July 09, 2008, 01:20:19 PM

He needs Ken's face of course with venom like features

oh thats what you mean i would try that but i already have 79 sprites done plus im no that good at editing

thanks for the comments

ATiC3 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:39:35 PM »

Ken hair??? That's ridiculous! Don't put that in...

What I meant by spicing up the hadou-ken was basically the same idea as adding Symbiote or VENOM goo into it... You do know what goo is... right?? Like, the green goo coming off of the Symbiote's mouth... kinda like that...

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:44:18 PM »

So wait should the goo come out his mouth when he fires it or dose it come out of the haduoken?

nick09 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:47:31 PM »

Make the goo have a thin layer around the haduoken and give it a nasty goo tail at the end.

ATiC3 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:50:08 PM »

Quote from: nick09 on July 09, 2008, 02:47:31 PM

Make the goo have a thin layer around the haduoken and give it a nasty goo tail at the end.

yeah.. do that, Sonic7.

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:38:56 PM »

Quote from: ATICE on July 09, 2008, 02:50:08 PM

Quote from: nick09 on July 09, 2008, 02:47:31 PM
Make the goo have a thin layer around the haduoken and give it a nasty goo tail at the end.
yeah.. do that, Sonic7.

Do that & ....

Make the symbiote on his arms go crazy & start lifting off his skin & " squirming " Since technically the Hadoken is fire & symbiotes don't like fire .

LameLikeMike · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2008, 11:02:07 PM »

i didn't know how to explain it well so look here

^ its a bit rough, a goo ball like this will need like 3 or 4 frames to look right.
if you want i can send you my bmp's so you have a place to start

but you should make his arms go nuts too

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:31:22 PM »

Quote from: LameLikeMike on July 09, 2008, 11:02:07 PM

i didn't know how to explain it well so look here

^ its a bit rough, a goo ball like this will need like 3 or 4 frames to look right.
if you want i can send you my bmp's so you have a place to start

but you should make his arms go nuts too

Hmm that goo ball looks good i wonder if i could use it like he fires it like a haduoken but it has the effect of venoms spider web (like Player 2 get traped and cant move) so can you send me the BMPS thanks

Also the first Post has been Updated with finished Shoryukken Screenshots (Sound needs to be added) but there pretty much done and once again Ken X codes sound and some fire sprites used

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:18:10 PM »

I'm telling you bro , anytime there is fire involved ( like the uppercut) make the symbiote squirm & go crazy . It will really add a cool unique effect to him

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2008, 07:48:21 PM »

Quote from: DARKTALBAIN on July 10, 2008, 03:18:10 PM

I'm telling you bro , anytime there is fire involved ( like the uppercut) make the symbiote squirm & go crazy . It will really add a cool unique effect to him

Well i already figured that out if you look at the his arm there is no symbiote on him because i made in his animation that right before the attack starts the symbiote moves off his arm but once the the fire is gone it moves back to where it was also

I have finished the up jump now i have to finish the forward and backward jump(i may re-use the sprties for the up jump)

and thanks for the sprites LameLikeMike

LameLikeMike · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2008, 08:11:02 PM »

I think DT is saying all this because he knows how cool it would be if you took the idea and ran with it, full out making him a unique character, instead of just putting venoms arms and head on ken's body and being done with it.
I'm pretty sure his comments were for the good of the character less than to criticize you, which it seems is how you are taking it.

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #25 on:** July 10, 2008, 08:57:42 PM »

Sorry if it looked like i was taking it as something bad im saying that i already thought that the animations were good enough and i didnt need to change them and (im not saying this in a bad way) im not that great at spriting so dont exspect something that is like Deadpool ok well thanks for the comments

juelz aka wolfi · « **Reply #26 on:** July 10, 2008, 09:24:09 PM »

jus a few things

1) how a bout a web attack followed by a triple dragon punch
2) cannonball like kano or blanka
3) web balls from air
4) hypermode

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #27 on:** July 11, 2008, 04:27:00 PM »

UPDATE: I have Just Finished a new move for Symbiote Ken The Symbiote Goo trap its like a alternate haduoken that traps the opponent like the spider web attacks
Code from Sludge's Spiderman Sound from Scar Some Sprites From Grim and Bonzai and projectile by LameLikeMike

ScreenShots on Page 1

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #28 on:** July 11, 2008, 04:43:46 PM »

Quote from: Sonic7 on July 10, 2008, 08:57:42 PM

Sorry if it looked like i was taking it as something bad im saying that i already thought that the animations were good enough and i didnt need to change them and (im not saying this in a bad way) im not that great at spriting so dont exspect something that is like Deadpool ok well thanks for the comments

I'm not criticizing you . I see potential in what you have started & trying to help you take it to the next level . You do not have to be the greatest spriter in the world to pull off the effect I am trying to explain . Just make the symbiote kind of squirm & jump on his arm . Like it is possibly nervous or even terrified of the fire . It would really make your character stand out more & be a really cool effect on screen .

Darkmanx_429 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:12:59 AM »

Nice idea!

Seriously I hope my version will have someone to fight against. I like the contrast of ideas? Maybe later, we can have a intro with our characters?

O Ilusionista · « **Reply #30 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:15:52 AM »

Can I be true? I don't like it....its pretty strange.

offtopic: where I got that Screenpack? I've liked the debug font

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #31 on:** July 12, 2008, 09:25:07 PM »

Update: I have finished the hurricane Kick (Ryu X code Used) also the the strong version of the Hurricane Kick is the symbiote Hurricane kickwhen the symbiote snakes go around ken this idea was by LameLikeMike See ya

tremainekr · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2008, 05:07:07 PM »

Quote from: Darkmanx_429 on July 12, 2008, 01:12:59 AM

Nice idea! Seriously I hope my version will have someone to fight against. I like the contrast of ideas? Maybe later, we can have a intro with our characters?

this kinda good, create some storyline. since your symboiate looks like venom(sonic 7). lets just say venom,better yet eddie brock wanted to become stronger,ken knew nothing about the symbioate in eddie ,ken trained him,eddie shown his true form,beat up ken,ken became crippeled(optional) during the fight his fire attacks burned off some of the symbioate,it attached it self to ken, (y elese would ken let it enter his body.), now ken(darkman_x429 )is out for revenge

Violent Ken Masters · « **Reply #33 on:** July 14, 2008, 05:19:13 AM »

Quote from: tremainekr on July 13, 2008, 05:07:07 PM

Quote from: Darkmanx_429 on July 12, 2008, 01:12:59 AM

Nice idea! Seriously I hope my version will have someone to fight against. I like the contrast of ideas? Maybe later, we can have a intro with our characters?

this kinda good, create some storyline. since your symboiate looks like venom(sonic 7). lets just say venom,better yet eddie brock wanted to become stronger,ken knew nothing about the symbioate in eddie ,ken trained him,eddie shown his true form,beat up ken,ken became crippeled(optional) during the fight his fire attacks burned off some of the symbioate,it attached it self to ken, (y elese would ken let it enter his body.), now ken(darkman_x429 )is out for revenge

That works.

Green Thunder · « **Reply #34 on:** July 14, 2008, 02:30:28 PM »

ummm
this looks...interesting....
i liked how you frankensprited, looks very nice.
I also got a question
is he just gonna be yet another shotoclone or will he have some new stuff?

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #35 on:** July 14, 2008, 03:44:32 PM »

Update I have added a Intro in so go see the screenshots and the gif on the front page

Also

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his kinda good, create some storyline. since your symboiate looks like venom(sonic 7). lets just say venom,better yet eddie brock wanted to become stronger,ken knew nothing about the symbioate in eddie ,ken trained him,eddie shown his true form,beat up ken,ken became crippeled(optional) during the fight his fire attacks burned off some of the symbioate,it attached it self to ken, (y elese would ken let it enter his body.), now ken(darkman_x429 )is out for revenge

Well since i just added the intro showing he is ken i dont think that story will work well maybe he could be a shadaloo clone that was fused with the venom symbiote transeforming him completely while the other Symbiote Ken (By Darkamnx) Could be the orginal ken who had to combine his power with the symbiote to take down this new enemy but the orginal ken will not let the symbiote fully take over so that is why he looks more normal. so maybe that could be the story line

DARKTALBAIN · « **Reply #36 on:** July 14, 2008, 03:58:14 PM »

It seems like you didn't use all the Venom sprites when the Symbiote covers his head . I was looking at them when getting ideas for my Medieval Spawn intro . From what I recall there was 7 frames for the animation . It appears that you only used a few of them . Redo the animation with all of them & it will look

smoother .

MuηkyMØÜf · « **Reply #37 on:** July 14, 2008, 04:01:14 PM »

Imma a lil skeptical, but if you can make it work

I love how you are mixing the moves & attacks of the two chars though.

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #38 on:** July 14, 2008, 04:08:29 PM »

Quote from: DARKTALBAIN on July 14, 2008, 03:58:14 PM

It seems like you didn't use all the Venom sprites when the Symbiote covers his head . I was looking at them when getting ideas for my Medieval Spawn intro . From what I recall there was 7 frames for the animation . It appears that you only used a few of them . Redo the animation with all of them & it will look smoother .

Well actually if you look at the first sprite of the animation you can see the 1st part of the 7 part animation and i think i sped up a few parts of the animation

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #39 on:** July 18, 2008, 07:47:05 PM »

Sorry for the Double post

Update Symbiote Ken is now 70% done and almost all the Basics are done also he has another intro with bison (screenshot on the front page) in it basicly bison is floating behind symbiote ken and laughs Evily and then teleports out also i am now working on gethits so once im done with that i will start working on his hypers once im done with that i will be finished and i will release him also you wont be hearing from me for week because im going on vacation for the week well C ya

Darkmanx_429 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2008, 09:05:40 PM »

Quote from: Sonic7 on July 14, 2008, 03:44:32 PM

Update I have added a Intro in so go see the screenshots and the gif on the front page

Also

Quote
his kinda good, create some storyline. since your symboiate looks like venom(sonic 7). lets just say venom,better yet eddie brock wanted to become stronger,ken knew nothing about the symbioate in eddie ,ken trained him,eddie shown his true form,beat up ken,ken became crippeled(optional) during the fight his fire attacks burned off some of the symbioate,it attached it self to ken, (y elese would ken let it enter his body.), now ken(darkman_x429 )is out for revenge

Well since i just added the intro showing he is ken i dont think that story will work well maybe he could be a shadaloo clone that was fused with the venom symbiote transeforming him completely while the other Symbiote Ken (By Darkamnx) Could be the orginal ken who had to combine his power with the symbiote to take down this new enemy but the orginal ken will not let the symbiote fully take over so that is why he looks more normal. so maybe that could be the story line

Hmmm..I was thinking that your Ken could really be the symbiote acting on its own, (but then your intro...) and mine could be Ken himself...I think I could think of something to link the characters...

Tenspeed · « **Reply #41 on:** July 21, 2008, 12:46:48 AM »

this one could be a shoto venom and the other one could be a symbiote ken.

Violent Ken Masters · « **Reply #42 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:06:02 AM »

Quote from: Darkmanx_429 on July 20, 2008, 09:05:40 PM

Quote from: Sonic7 on July 14, 2008, 03:44:32 PM
Update I have added a Intro in so go see the screenshots and the gif on the front page

Also

Quote
his kinda good, create some storyline. since your symboiate looks like venom(sonic 7). lets just say venom,better yet eddie brock wanted to become stronger,ken knew nothing about the symbioate in eddie ,ken trained him,eddie shown his true form,beat up ken,ken became crippeled(optional) during the fight his fire attacks burned off some of the symbioate,it attached it self to ken, (y elese would ken let it enter his body.), now ken(darkman_x429 )is out for revenge

Well since i just added the intro showing he is ken i dont think that story will work well maybe he could be a shadaloo clone that was fused with the venom symbiote transeforming him completely while the other Symbiote Ken (By Darkamnx) Could be the orginal ken who had to combine his power with the symbiote to take down this new enemy but the orginal ken will not let the symbiote fully take over so that is why he looks more normal. so maybe that could be the story line
Hmmm..I was thinking that your Ken could really be the symbiote acting on its own, (but then your intro...) and mine could be Ken himself...I think I could think of something to link the characters...

Well you could say that Bison cloned Ken after witnessing his true power as Violent Ken, and wanting to harness the power for his own benefit, and a symbiote found the real Ken, and during a shoryuken, some of the symbiote burned off and tried to find Ken after being separated, and mistaken the clone for the real deal.

Darkmanx_429 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 21, 2008, 09:04:23 PM »

Quote from: Violent Ken Masters on July 21, 2008, 06:06:02 AM

Quote from: Darkmanx_429 on July 20, 2008, 09:05:40 PM
Quote from: Sonic7 on July 14, 2008, 03:44:32 PM
Update I have added a Intro in so go see the screenshots and the gif on the front page

Also

Quote
his kinda good, create some storyline. since your symboiate looks like venom(sonic 7). lets just say venom,better yet eddie brock wanted to become stronger,ken knew nothing about the symbioate in eddie ,ken trained him,eddie shown his true form,beat up ken,ken became crippeled(optional) during the fight his fire attacks burned off some of the symbioate,it attached it self to ken, (y elese would ken let it enter his body.), now ken(darkman_x429 )is out for revenge

Well since i just added the intro showing he is ken i dont think that story will work well maybe he could be a shadaloo clone that was fused with the venom symbiote transeforming him completely while the other Symbiote Ken (By Darkamnx) Could be the orginal ken who had to combine his power with the symbiote to take down this new enemy but the orginal ken will not let the symbiote fully take over so that is why he looks more normal. so maybe that could be the story line
Hmmm..I was thinking that your Ken could really be the symbiote acting on its own, (but then your intro...) and mine could be Ken himself...I think I could think of something to link the characters...

Well you could say that Bison cloned Ken after witnessing his true power as Violent Ken, and wanting to harness the power for his own benefit, and a symbiote found the real Ken, and during a shoryuken, some of the symbiote burned off and tried to find Ken after being separated, and mistaken the clone for the real deal.

I think I have my Ken's back story, (I like the clone idea) let's say that my Ken is part of the Shadowlaw: Mannequins Project. Kinda like the male alternative of the Shadowlaw: Dolls Project. Where Bison takes the cells and DNA of captured Street Fighters and creates clones. (Since Ken was captured by Shadowlaw in the past, going by the original SF Anime Movie, this would make sense that took cells from him while in captivity.) Then I could stay with the original concept of the Venom Symbiote leaving a cancer ridden Eddie Brock and finding Ken after the original SF2 tournament and since this Ken is not aware he is a clone he would have all the same memories as the real Ken he would still be obsessed with besting Ryu. That way, Sonic 7 could create his backstory and we could still link the two characters. The only problem is how to explain the fact of 2 symbiotes running around unless Sonic 7's version of Venom is in fact a clone of the actual Venom Symbiote itself also created by Shadowlaw. Maybe somehow the original was captured by Bison for testing after leaving Eddie Brock and then escaped. The clone would know of Ken Masters after observing combat footage of Ken while in Bison's captivity and bonds with Ken Masters in order kill Bison for revenge. That way my Ken would be obessed with besting Ryu while, Sonic's is obsessed with killing Bison. (Whew!) A comic in the making..

What do you think Sonic7?

Lothar-Ex · « **Reply #44 on:** July 26, 2008, 01:57:47 PM »

Hey guys im back from vacation and back to work on symbiote ken

Quote

I think I have my Ken's back story, (I like the clone idea) let's say that my Ken is part of the Shadowlaw: Mannequins Project. Kinda like the male alternative of the Shadowlaw: Dolls Project. Where Bison takes the cells and DNA of captured Street Fighters and creates clones. (Since Ken was captured by Shadowlaw in the past, going by the original SF Anime Movie, this would make sense that took cells from him while in captivity.) Then I could stay with the original concept of the Venom Symbiote leaving a cancer ridden Eddie Brock and finding Ken after the original SF2 tournament and since this Ken is not aware he is a clone he would have all the same memories as the real Ken he would still be obsessed with besting Ryu. That way, Sonic 7 could create his backstory and we could still link the two characters. The only problem is how to explain the fact of 2 symbiotes running around unless Sonic 7's version of Venom is in fact a clone of the actual Venom Symbiote itself also created by Shadowlaw. Maybe somehow the original was captured by Bison for testing after leaving Eddie Brock and then escaped. The clone would know of Ken Masters after observing combat footage of Ken while in Bison's captivity and bonds with Ken Masters in order kill Bison for revenge. That way my Ken would be obessed with besting Ryu while, Sonic's is obsessed with killing Bison. (Whew!) A comic in the making..

What do you think Sonic7?

I like it also i changed the bison intro so ken trys to attack Bison but is to late and the backstory is great and im may have a special intro with bison and maybe a special intro with your (Darkmanx_429) symbiote ken well thats all i have to report since i just got back

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