SpRiTe Of ThE wEeK cOnTeSt #3 Voting

[DARKTALBAIN]

Sprite of the week 3

Sprite # 1
Mr Majestic 1 ( 1st appearance Wildcats & his own series )


Sprite # 2
Abbey Chase ( Danger Girl )


Sprite # 3
Grifter ( Wildcats )



Sprite # 4
Mr Majestic 2 ( 1st appearance Wildcats & his own series )



Sprite # 5
Red Monika ( Battle Chasers )



Sprite # 6
Cheetarah ( Thundercats )



Sprite # 7
Wildstorm Girls ( Rainmaker & Fairchild/Gen 13 , Void/Wildcats , Freefall/Gen13 , Voodoo/Wildcats )


   
Let the voting commence . You have until Sunday evening ( eastern time zone ) to vote

DO NOT vote solely on the gratuitous T n A . Oh wait 4 out of the 7 have that . Are all the Wildstorm women really that big breasted & half naked all the time ? Now that I think back , they really are 

[JahmelM (JMills)]

Mr. Majestic 2 got my vote 

[Spidermew]

I didnt realize Thundercats was wildstorm.


I wonder who made what?

[DARKTALBAIN]

I didnt realize Thundercats was wildstorm.


I wonder who made what?

Look at the link I posted in the announce thread for the theme this week . Thundercats was on the list of Wildstorm titles . When I first reviewed that list & seen them . I figured that I was going to get more Thundercats submitted .

Anyway , I have to go   

[Alexziq]

T an A or not the Wildstorm girls rule.

I was hoping for a gambit edit for grifter, but still a good effort.

Still I found myself searching for gateway into the Bleed to find the Wildstorm girls somewhere in the Multiverse.

[Weapon x program]

too bad we have only one vote 

[Spidermew]

T an A or not the Wildstorm girls rule.

I was hoping for a gambit edit for grifter, but still a good effort.

Still I found myself searching for gateway into the Bleed to find the Wildstorm girls somewhere in the Multiverse.

i dont think your wife would appreceate you sliding through the bleed and hooking up with Void or Fairchild

[SPOOKY77]

Me likey this week 

[MugenMaster44]

Mr.Majestic #1 got my vote

[SX DynX]

Mr Majestic #2 got mine 

[DARKTALBAIN]

Looks like this may be another close one . At least it's starting off that way .

I'm actually kind of surprised . I figured there would be no way any of the male characters would be even in the running , with all the gratuitous female bodies in the comp this week .

It's still a toss up for me .

I like Mr Majestic 2 , but how can I vote for that when there is almost every Gen 13 / Wildcat girl in front of me ? Pretty true to their characters , the Gen 13 girls were always half naked in the book .

Something about the Cheetarah makes it special .

Then there is one of my favorite books . Abbey Chase from Danger Girl sprite is well done . I love that book ( when it came out ) & Campbell's artwork . That swimsuit is right out of an issue .   

Then there's Grifter . I like the sprite , but the coat is too short . Longer trench coat & this may have been a winner .

Red Monika sprite is pretty cool . But I didn't really read too many issues . To me the series was a rip off of the anime Slayers .

Mr Majestic 1 , I think the line work is better than 2 . But the shading is not as good .

I hate making these voting decisions every week . I'm usually a very decisive person . But when it comes to casting my vote in these comps , I can never make up my mind .

Or did I already vote ?

[Danoartist]

   There are some great sprites up this week. I support this contest because it provides potential for new characters being created for mugen. I also vote based on single sprites that could provide inspiration on how new characters could be made. 
   With that being said I have to say that anatomy should take some priority, when working on human characters it is the basic fundamental. The Majestic 2, while bigger and more flashy it looks a bit off, it looks as though if he were to put his arms at his side they would reach past his knees. Abby Chase looks off too, while cool to see unless you know the way muscles should look you really shouldn't just throw some lines on the legs. The Red Monika also looks a bit off, but it might just be the size of the sprite in whole.
   Cheetarah, Grifter and Majestic 1 might be a little off in coloring but I could still see those being made into sweet characters to play with.
   Sorry, I am not trying to be harsh I am just relaying artistic advice that has been given to me through my life not pertaining to spriting but applies none the less.
   

[xPreatorianx]

I voted for the wildcat girls. Not because of boobige. But because they look like decent sprites.

[KPT25]

   There are some great sprites up this week. I support this contest because it provides potential for new characters being created for mugen. I also vote based on single sprites that could provide inspiration on how new characters could be made. 
   With that being said I have to say that anatomy should take some priority, when working on human characters it is the basic fundamental. The Majestic 2, while bigger and more flashy it looks a bit off, it looks as though if he were to put his arms at his side they would reach past his knees. Abby Chase looks off too, while cool to see unless you know the way muscles should look you really shouldn't just throw some lines on the legs. The Red Monika also looks a bit off, but it might just be the size of the sprite in whole.
   Cheetarah, Grifter and Majestic 1 might be a little off in coloring but I could still see those being made into sweet characters to play with.
   Sorry, I am not trying to be harsh I am just relaying artistic advice that has been given to me through my life not pertaining to spriting but applies none the less.
   

you're not harsh,you're being honest and providing some useful feedback to the creators of those sprites(whoever they are,we will know once the contest is done)
Harsh would have been if you said something like "This three sprites are [insert curseword],learn how to sprite[insert f-word]"
On topic...
Judging on how the sprites turned out i decided to pick the wildcats girls
They do stand out from the rest(not only because of T n A like DT said) because of good shading,coloring and good proportions overall 

[DARKTALBAIN]

   There are some great sprites up this week. I support this contest because it provides potential for new characters being created for mugen. I also vote based on single sprites that could provide inspiration on how new characters could be made. 
   With that being said I have to say that anatomy should take some priority, when working on human characters it is the basic fundamental. The Majestic 2, while bigger and more flashy it looks a bit off, it looks as though if he were to put his arms at his side they would reach past his knees. Abby Chase looks off too, while cool to see unless you know the way muscles should look you really shouldn't just throw some lines on the legs. The Red Monika also looks a bit off, but it might just be the size of the sprite in whole.
   Cheetarah, Grifter and Majestic 1 might be a little off in coloring but I could still see those being made into sweet characters to play with.
   Sorry, I am not trying to be harsh I am just relaying artistic advice that has been given to me through my life not pertaining to spriting but applies none the less.
   

That's crazy , I didn't notice it until you brought it up . Majestic 2's arms are very big . I wonder if the creator frankensprited the arms off a bigger base . I guess we will find out when the comp is over .

Grifter's problem to me still is the coat . It should be longer .

I am still liking the Abbey Chase .

As for the Wildcat/Gen13 girls . I'm almost sure they had no base . I know the Voodoo didn't . I guess we will find out more about that when the comp ends 2morrow also .

It would be cool to hear how some the entries were done each week after the comp ends . What base or bases were used , how long it took the creator , any tidbit about the sprite . Maybe even why they chose that particular character or characters .

[GaryCXJk]

In my opinion, it's Mr. Majestic numero uno, mostly when it comes to getting a sprite in-style and anatomical correctness. It really nailed the selout. The only thing that could have a little bit of improvement is the cape, since it's kind of straight as a board, as if it has been stiff-dried.

However, the Wildstorm girls do have better poses. The outline could be more defined at some spots, at least this one could definitely use some selout. Also, I think a little less defined facial features would have helped the sprites more. The Abbey Chase sprite is a great example of a good face without a defined nose. Of course the nose is there, it's even sprited, but the outline of the nose isn't there. It's practically invisible, but visible at the same time. This would have really helped the Wildstorm girls. Only problem is, Abbey's pose looks a little awkward, and her back does look a little strange.

Anyway, for the others, Grifter is good, the pose could use some work, and the colors are a bit too dark. It makes the shading kind of useless, anyway. For both Red Monika and Cheetara, the only advice I have is to use a more defined outline.

Mr. Majestic numero dos is a pretty good one as well, probably as good as Mr. Majestic numero uno. In this case it's more about taste, which one of the two you really like. Both actually are of a somewhat equal quality, to me.

What I do notice is that both use too many colors. While it is true that in MUGEN, you don't have to aim for a 15 color + background color limit, I was able to eliminate a few colors of each character, with the exception of Grifter. That one had the perfect amount of colors, save for a stray pixel, which raised the total color count from 24 to 25 colors. There were no needless colors in the sprite at least. I do have to admit that I couldn't test the sprite group due to the fact that they are separate characters.

So anyway, my vote goes to Mr. Majestic 1.

[DARKTALBAIN]

Well that ends another contest for sprite of the week . The final vote was cast by me for Abbey Chase . Which really had no effect on the outcome . But she was my favorite sprite & I like the fact that the creator used an outfit right out of the book .

I will post the winner thread later . Right now I have to get ready for a superbowl party .

Thanx to all who entered , you all derserve a round of applause . 

 

[Spidermew]

Well now that he's officaly ended it... I can finaly respond to whateveryone's been sayinag about my sprite.

I made this from this

   With that being said I have to say that anatomy should take some priority, when working on human characters it is the basic fundamental. The Majestic 2, while bigger and more flashy it looks a bit off, it looks as though if he were to put his arms at his side they would reach past his knees.

Funny cuz its the same base you used on He-man LMAO! And as you can/cannot tell, I did not alter the body perportions on Leo to make Mister Majestic. Infact I had to redraw the inside of the legs were the cloth was covering up to turn them into his tights.


As for colors, I decided to stick with the ammount of colors leo was using, which was like 15-17 colors for the body, so both white and red are arround this meny colors, the peach for the face uses about 10 or so.
The head was made from cable, but i had to alter it heavly to get it to work with the proportions of the body.


And about those girls. THATS NOT FAIR! Thats a bunch of sprites, not one, and void looks like she has a buldge [/sourgrapes] just playing. But who made the girls, was it Batz or was it Z?

Well that ends another contest for sprite of the week . The final vote was cast by me for Abbey Chase . Which really had no effect on the outcome . But she was my favorite sprite & I like the fact that the creator used an outfit right out of the book .
 

You never vote for me  :'( 

[DARKTALBAIN]

You never vote for me  :'( 

What can I say the T n A got me :: I really think that Abbey looked like her .  Still taking nothing away from anyone elses work . But I love those Danger Girl comics when they first came out .

Z made the Girls . I'll post who made what like usual , after the Superbowl 

   

[tremainekr]

i vote 4 number 4

[Z999]

To answer something posted before in the thread, all the girls are made from scratch (so special thanks to Kpt25 for his kind comment, proportions were a little hard to respect, especially for void and fairchild), with two exeptions.
I did use a psylocke leg for the front leg for fairchild and psylocke hands for freefall hands.

Thanks everyone and congrats to the others ^^

Oh and group sprites is not unfair ^^ Let's recall someone submitted a Jason vs Ash group sprite in the last contest; who was it again
As a matter of fact i even intended to make at least three more girls for the contest, but just never had the time ^^

By the way i'm really surprised red monika didn't get a lot more votes, weird...

[GaryCXJk]

If anything, group sprites are a bigger risk.

[.Batzarro.]

Well, first off, I wish there was a bigger turn out for this one. It was about half as big as other two we've had. Lesser votes also, to boot.

Second, I made the Red Monika sprite. Now, I sprited this one in a way I'm not use to. Also made her, um, chest bigger then I regularly do. Wasn't surprised she didn't win though, made someone less known from a company that not many people around here had interest in IMO. Was hoping some T&A (or atleast T) would get me further in the contest, but guess not. Oh well either way.

Third, here's my take on more then one person in a sprite for this contest. If they're posing together, if they're fighting, if they have any kind of interaction going on, then I think it's fine. As long as it's two or under, as I still don't see it quite fair, but understandable. The thing I didn't like about Z's entry (although the sprites were good) was that they were clearly five different sprites that had nothing going on together. It'd be sorta like if Mew entered both the Sym Batman and Venom for the first contest awhile back as one sprite. I don't see it as a bigger risk either. They're not voting for worst, it's for best. If someone doesn't like one, they'll move on, but with multiple sprites entered, there's a bigger chance to win. That's how I feel about it though.

Finally, I don't think this contest is for me anymore. Just had very different views then everyone else that voted. Has nothing to do with my sprite either. I feel that Grifter should have easily been one of the top sprites, as well as Cheetara somewhere in the top. So, it's either sprite what the crowd wants to see and have a much better chance of winning, or sprite what I wanna see and likely not win.

That's my two cents on everything. It's fine if no one agrees, but it's how I feel.

[Alexziq]

Funny thing is Ive worked with you guys often enough I knew who did the sprites. Z makes the best perportioned women in Mugen, Mews face was a dead give away. Red Monika was dead on Zarro.

I will say the wildstorm girls just fit Z's style better than the rest did. Most of these were very good. Danger Girl deserved more luv as well.

[Z999]

Wow, i think you really take it the wrong way ^^

I don't see it as a bigger risk either. They're not voting for worst, it's for best. If someone doesn't like one, they'll move on, but with multiple sprites entered, there's a bigger chance to win.

Well that works the other way around too. Sure if someone sees one sprite he likes among the five, he will vote for it. But if there is one sprite he don't like he won't vote for it. 5 chances to have a sprite taking the vote, 5 chances to have a sprite cost a vote. That's the way i see it. Plus by making five sprites you can't put the same level of attention than for one sprite, i actually think they are all rushed and see many way to improve them (voodoo legs, fairchild hair and shading, rainmaker knees, the general lack of anti alias on the outer line). By submitting only one sprite i could have corrected these.
About the "if there is some situation" it's not like the characters never had any crossovers together, at first i was planning a  wildstorm beach party or battle theme but i'm sure someone would have said the same still, that it was not fair.

So, it's either sprite what the crowd wants to see and have a much better chance of winning, or sprite what I wanna see and likely not win.

Uh i don't agree with this one. Of course some will vote without even looking at the sprites, as some will just vote for the best looking and more revelent. Just look at the two other weeks, i don't think symbiote jedah, edward sissorhands, the white chick guy (don't even know who he is)... You can't say they were the most famous entries of the contests. Still they were among the best ranked next to popular chars like symbiote batman or myers or whatever. While grifter is totally what i would call a pretty popular character, far more than mr majestic at least.

Anyway that is just my opinion, it's just too bad you don't feel like entering again because of this cause i actually like your entries at each contest and think they make the contest more interesting.

[.Batzarro.]

I don't think I'm taking it the wrong way. I'm not mad or anything about it and I do understand what you're saying. Not agreeing about the group sprites though, as I still don't think it's risk. Either way, I just see my views are really different then most around here. That'd be the reason for me not entering. I might still down the line if something really gets my interest.

Aside from that, I do hate when someone vote for joke sprites. They're voting on it because it made them and not because it's the best sprite up. I guess that'd fall under different views too though.

Either way, it's all good.

[GaryCXJk]

If the next one is about Disney, I will consider entering.

[Z999]

Actually the next contest theme is up to Dt so we'll see, i have no idea what he has cooked for us ^^

Aside from that, I do hate when someone vote for joke sprites. They're voting on it because it made them Laugh Out Loud and not because it's the best sprite up. I guess that'd fall under different views too though.

Well on that we agree, it's a shame some don't really look at the sprites before voting, or don't care as long as they had a good laugh/a favorite char... But that would be the case in every contest i think, so we shouldn't focuss on that... Personally i only enter to sprites things i wouldn't sprite everyday, and i only hope to see things i wouldn't see the other way. Don't really care for the result, i just want to make/see good sprites, improve myself/see others improve, discover new spriters, and keep it alive so i can see more things next week. I just prefer to focuss on the good aspect of this all...

edit : thanks Alex, missed your message in all this ^^

So to shorten things, what i want to say is focuss on the fun Zarro and continue to make cool sprites 

[Danoartist]

   In response to Mew, I took a look at my He-Man after the fact, and thought "If he used Leo as a base I am going to be eating my words." Sure enough.   Also, I had gotten a couple of comments on my Sprites colors and cape and I hadn't changed them much either from the base. I read somewhere around here that when shading I should use around 4 shades/grades of colors and that is what I did practically using the shading that was laid out already but re-editing it in the new colors.
   Things were said about my shading as well and I thought I did a decent job, when I changed from red to white I made a decision to go with Jin's white shade scale. And I used this as a reference for my Majestic
   I added Ryu's head and one of Cyclops' hands(open). So with the critiques thrown around here maybe we can agree that Capcom takes some liberties when it comes to creating style and form in their characters. Maybe we should all keep that in mind when choosing bases?
   I also would like to say this was a fun contest and as long as I am interested in the subject I will sprite another day. I won't bring such a heavy critique tone to the thread though since I made my objectives on voting clear here. Thanks and praise all around to everyone that participated, good job and have fun.

[Alexziq]

I can say personally I wouldve voted for any one of Z's sprites, and I think anybody should be able to put as much effort into this as they wish. For me Grifter was too bulkey, and the coat looked a little short. Leaving the cable gun kinda detracted too. I think Zarro's Red Monika looked great, I just gave Z's sprites higher marks because it fits his style.

I wouldve voted Wildstorm girls Mr Majestic 2, Red Monika, Cheetara, Danger Girl, Mr Majestic 1, and the rest.

They were all good it was just a close competition this week.

Personally I dont vote for the comedy ones, but familiarity factors in if they are all really close.

I think if you did an Ultimate Marvel week, it could be much more rounded with more people on this forum being familiar with the characters, I'm still hoping on Vertigo week!!

[DARKTALBAIN]

Well, first off, I wish there was a bigger turn out for this one. It was about half as big as other two we've had. Lesser votes also, to boot.

I wish there was a bigger turn out too . Less sprites get less votes .   

Second, I made the Red Monika sprite. Now, I sprited this one in a way I'm not use to. Also made her, um, chest bigger then I regularly do. Wasn't surprised she didn't win though, made someone less known from a company that not many people around here had interest in IMO. Was hoping some T&A (or atleast T) would get me further in the contest, but guess not. Oh well either way.

You know me & you are cool . I just run the comp & would like to see you all win , but that's not possible . I'll be honest Red Monika didn't look like your usual style & she looked kind of rushed . I know you were sick all week & rushed to get her done . So what , this week you didn't place . get back pon the horse after you fall off & make next weeks sprite even better . 

Third, here's my take on more then one person in a sprite for this contest. If they're posing together, if they're fighting, if they have any kind of interaction going on, then I think it's fine. As long as it's two or under, as I still don't see it quite fair, but understandable. The thing I didn't like about Z's entry (although the sprites were good) was that they were clearly five different sprites that had nothing going on together. It'd be sorta like if Mew entered both the Sym Batman and Venom for the first contest awhile back as one sprite. I don't see it as a bigger risk either. They're not voting for worst, it's for best. If someone doesn't like one, they'll move on, but with multiple sprites entered, there's a bigger chance to win. That's how I feel about it though.

I have to disagree with you on this . If someone wants to take the time to make more sprites more power to them . It means they spent less time on the one they could've made . I think Z's went together . They were in poses that made them feel like they were interacting to me . Now I also agree with what Z said . More sprites could blow the vote . I didn't vote for the " Girls " because I didn't like Void & Freefall . So I voyed Danger Girl instead .

Finally, I don't think this contest is for me anymore. Just had very different views then everyone else that voted. Has nothing to do with my sprite either. I feel that Grifter should have easily been one of the top sprites, as well as Cheetara somewhere in the top. So, it's either sprite what the crowd wants to see and have a much better chance of winning, or sprite what I wanna see and likely not win.

If Grifter would have won , it would have been because of his popularity . Grifter is one of my favorite Wildstorm characters . like I mentioned , I didn't vote for him & I think he lost of votes becasue the coat was too short .

I don't think Majestic was " the popular " character . Because I vaguely even remember that character . I had to have the guys explain him to me a few times & then I did some research on the net about him . After that my memory started to refresh .

Every week you sprited what you wanted & you were close in the running . This week was a bad week . Move on & make something next week . I really wish you would reconsider & stay in the comps . Don't be a quitter . This comp will go on without you , but I would like you to be a part of it . You all add a different dimension to the comp , in my opinion .

[.Batzarro.]

Actually, going off what Z said, I reconsidered entering some of these. Just won't enter anything that doesn't catch my interest a lot. Like Disney was a thought I had too for a contest, and an Ultimates week would be great like Alex mentioned. Especially if you went with Ultimate DC over Marvel. Either way, will give me more time to work on my actual WIPs rather then just single edits.

Always end up getting drawn towards doing single edits over actually doing more work on my WIPs.

Anyways, thanks Z.

[bdcirck]

DO NOT vote solely on the gratuitous T n A .

No wonder that Abbey Chase ( Danger Girl ) lost .

[Z999]

Just glad i'll see more of your sprites, wouldn't be the same if you didn't enter from time to time.
Anyway an ultimate or vertigo contest could be fun, even tought i don't now anything of the first and only am familiar with sandman for the second. But a disney contest is totally the thing i would want to see at one point. I'd sure would like to try a few things like taram, jack, tron... There is such a lot of interesting stuff in disney, this could be awesome...

bdcirck : actually your abbey was quite good i think, it's just too bad you didn't choose a better pose to make the sprite stand out. But i think you're really improving a lot with spriting ^^

[Alexziq]

Just glad i'll see more of your sprites, wouldn't be the same if you didn't enter from time to time

 

QTF

[Spidermew]

   In response to Mew, I took a look at my He-Man after the fact, and thought "If he used Leo as a base I am going to be eating my words." Sure enough.  

*Hand you a bottle of hotsauce* Enjoy 

Also, I had gotten a couple of comments on my Sprites colors and cape and I hadn't changed them much either from the base. I read somewhere around here that when shading I should use around 4 shades/grades of colors and that is what I did practically using the shading that was laid out already but re-editing it in the new colors.
   Things were said about my shading as well and I thought I did a decent job, when I changed from red to white I made a decision to go with Jin's white shade scale. And I used this as a reference for my Majestic
   I added Ryu's head and one of Cyclops' hands(open). So with the critiques thrown around here maybe we can agree that Capcom takes some liberties when it comes to creating style and form in their characters. Maybe we should all keep that in mind when choosing bases?
   I also would like to say this was a fun contest and as long as I am interested in the subject I will sprite another day. I won't bring such a heavy critique tone to the thread though since I made my objectives on voting clear here. Thanks and praise all around to everyone that participated, good job and have fun.

That was one of the few images I also looked at when spriting Mister Majestic, but I took some libertys with the sholderpads, I figure if his costume changes so much, I can add a slightly differnt spin to them.

Your look is more along the same size of Superman, and I wanted to make him look big enough to move planets.
Just 2 differnt interpratations, which is something I like about this contest.

[Spidermew]

Awww man, i didnt realize it was in the dump already.. 

[b.easy]

whoops. sorry SM, the section was getting clogged with SOTW stuff.

feel free to post comments in the "winners of this week" topic.

[DARKTALBAIN]

Usually I lock the voting thread after I post the winning one . Then people post their comments in the winner thread . I forgot to lock it this week .

Please put this thread back in the forum & lock it  . This thread is kind of important to have , so people can look back at all the sprites for that week .

 If anything just dump all the weeks threads that are the announcement of the theme .

I think the voting & winner threads should stay .

[b.easy]

Please put this thread back in the forum & lock it  . This thread is kind of important to have , so people can look back at all the sprites for that week .

you know what, I never thought of that. 

OK, so I'll dump the announcement of the theme once voting begins.

Me and a couple of others are pulling for a __OTW section for stuff like this to simplify things, let's hope something happens in the future to make this easier.