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Marvel's New Cartoon
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:45:07 PM »
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 11:48:48 PM »
looks like something made by...DISNEY!! :o

j/k,i heard about it before,but didn't realize they are using our trademark avi as the source of power... :w00t:

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 11:53:58 PM »
Hey, they stole IMT's trademark Infinity Sword idea, you guys should sue for the rights ;*)) Man, this looks kinda lame..it does look like something Disney would do. If this is Disney's doing somehow....Marvel will turn into a joke. Not that it matters to me as I quit liking Marvel many years ago, although Spidey and the X-Men are still my favorites and I have a soft spot for them.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2009, 11:54:18 PM »
looks like something made by...DISNEY!! :o

j/k,i heard about it before,but didn't realize they are using our trademark avi as the source of power... :w00t:

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 12:00:13 AM »
This screams out mugen project..
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 12:11:24 AM »
This screams out mugen project..

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 12:22:58 AM »
This is even more disrespectful to marvel comics than it being bought out by disney
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 12:27:58 AM »
This is even more disrespectful to marvel comics than it being bought out by disney

I agree at least from an adult perspective, but when you think about it..gotta give the little kids something. Kids need something a bit on their level, this isn't for the big boys after all. Just catering to a different market. I still see it as a joke, but still I do see the other side of it.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 12:38:35 AM »
I don't see the big deal. Marvel made a cartoon for kids to get them hooked on comics early. This can only be good for the industry. Now if the Avengers movie is anything like this, I'll burn down Marvel's corporate office (It's near my job).

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2009, 12:43:27 AM »
Well, like I said..this is for the kiddies and you got to give them something too not just the hardcore fans. It's just a way to reach out to a wider demographic and get more folks into the Marvel universe. It just looks corny from a fan perspective is all :P

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2009, 02:29:10 AM »
I can see it now.. the new Magneto origin movie.. no swear words... no big shocks.. just boring drama.. reminds me of abc family....
 

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2009, 04:46:27 AM »
Its like marvel's mini version of the Justice League but not so serious..
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2009, 06:00:18 AM »
Its like marvel's mini version of the Justice League but not so serious..

But...why so serious?
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2009, 08:17:59 AM »
LOL the silver surfer sounds like he came stright out of an 80's movie. chaaaa bro lol

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2009, 09:35:30 AM »
It's Hooooooooooooorible, for adults. However my daughter found it funny. Hulk it is portrayed as if he is mentally retarded, and I guess kids kinda find that funny.

I don't think its the Disney influence though. Marvel has been really treading water in animated TV. The new animated Spiderman, Iron Man, FF, and even X-men have been brutal (the x-men is the best of the bunch though) While the movies are doing better, they still havent sold as well as DC's. I think they hope the Disney influence will help them get back on top in animation

I think they planned this when they saw Warner was doing Brave, and the Bold geared a little bit light hearted for kids. However Brave, and the Bold has top notch writing, interesting characters, and a great retro vibe. I don't think Marvel knew B&b was going to be that well done when this went into developement. It will be funny for veeeeeeeery little kids, but it has no potential to appeal to anyone over the age of 8.
 

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2009, 09:51:29 AM »
Two things:

1.) The Superhero Squad cartoon was in development BEFORE Disney bought out Marvel, and it's based on those Superhero Squad toys that came out a few years ago.  To repeat, Disney had NOTHING TO DO with the making of the Superhero Squad cartoon.

2.) The show is on Cartoon Network.  If Disney would have wanted this on their channel, they would've had to bump one of their stupidly-popular shows (I won't lower myself to their level by naming names) and put this on in place of it.

I The new animated Spiderman, Iron Man, FF, and even X-men have been brutal (the x-men is the best of the bunch though)

The Spectacular Spider-Man isn't that bad, ALEXZIQ.  Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes originally aired on Cartoon Network, and it was....well, meh.  As for Iron Man: Armored Adventures, it's an interesting reimagining of the character.  Wolverine and the X-Men seems to be drawing from X-Men: Evolution and a metric buttload of other sources. 


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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2009, 11:07:17 AM »
Two things:

1.) The Superhero Squad cartoon was in development BEFORE Disney bought out Marvel, and it's based on those Superhero Squad toys that came out a few years ago.  To repeat, Disney had NOTHING TO DO with the making of the Superhero Squad cartoon.

2.) The show is on Cartoon Network.  If Disney would have wanted this on their channel, they would've had to bump one of their stupidly-popular shows (I won't lower myself to their level by naming names) and put this on in place of it.

The Spectacular Spider-Man isn't that bad, ALEXZIQ.  Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes originally aired on Cartoon Network, and it was....well, meh.  As for Iron Man: Armored Adventures, it's an interesting reimagining of the character.  Wolverine and the X-Men seems to be drawing from X-Men: Evolution and a metric buttload of other sources. 



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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2009, 11:33:51 AM »
Actually I have to agree, Spectacular Spider-Man was really good, as for Wolverine and the X-men, I also enjoyed that one too.
Some of the other toons and toon ideas have been pretty bad though, but I've seen far, far, FAR worse then what Marvel has been putting out.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2009, 12:23:19 PM »
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You know, this has nothing to do with Disney. Marvel has had versions of these cute hero toys for awhile now.  Anything that gets kids into comics more is a positive thing in my eyes.
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2009, 02:30:15 PM »
I don't see the big deal. Marvel made a cartoon for kids to get them hooked on comics early. This can only be good for the industry. Now if the Avengers movie is anything like this, I'll burn down Marvel's corporate office (It's near my job).

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But yeah. They have other lame cartoons out like "Wolverine and the X-Men" and some lame Spider-man show, but its no big deal. Sure I don't like these shows, but they're for kids. Nothing wrong with making shows for kids. If I was a parent I'd rather have my kid watching marvel cartoons then crap like "Total Drama Island." Bleh.


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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2009, 03:23:45 PM »
super hero sqad was in plans long way before disney.... didn't you ever saw the toys and the propaganda at marvel's web? as a matter of fact i thought the show was already airing



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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2009, 01:48:05 AM »
Things like this are the reasons why Marvel will likely never be able to best DC in overall quality of animation. DC has animated works down to a science at this point while Marvel gives us this and bishie anime Wolverine. It's kind of sad, because it's not like Marvel doesn't have a solid stable of characters for stuff like this, but they always pick the absolute dumbest ways to go about things like this.

I'm all for getting kids interested in comics, but things like this shoot a little too low. The way to go about it is to shoot for an age range in the middle and try to balance things that will entertain both kids AND older viewers. This is generally how DC always manages to make their works so well remembered; Batman: The Animated Series didn't become widely recognized as the best superhero cartoon ever made through fart jokes, for instance.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2009, 02:07:56 AM »
I agree that DC is far better in this regard, they just know how to treat their characters right and know animation. Batman the animated series was my favorite hero cartoon series ever. Stuff like this makes me see why I just lost all interest in Marvel, DC on the other hand will always have a place in my heart. I think Marvel just has a lot to learn as they are just not putting in the effort to create solid animation on their characters...of which it is high time they did. I do still think the kiddies need something, but this is sort of insulting to the characters. I mean I think kids are smart enough to understand a show that is a bit more complex and more true to the characters.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2009, 02:59:42 AM »
I agree that DC is far better in this regard, they just know how to treat their characters right and know animation. Batman the animated series was my favorite hero cartoon series ever. Stuff like this makes me see why I just lost all interest in Marvel, DC on the other hand will always have a place in my heart. I think Marvel just has a lot to learn as they are just not putting in the effort to create solid animation on their characters...of which it is high time they did. I do still think the kiddies need something, but this is sort of insulting to the characters. I mean I think kids are smart enough to understand a show that is a bit more complex and more true to the characters.
Well, let's hope for the best. Last I heard, there was a proper Avengers animated series on the way. If they can get that right, it will be awesome. Key words being if they get it right.

I heard Spectacular Spider-Man was pretty good, but I haven't actually watched any of it yet.

I've always been more of a DC man, myself. But I do like Marvel well enough. I stick to the fringes with their comics lately, though; you know, the stuff that keep out of events. Stuff like Amazing Spider-Man, Immortal Iron Fist, Moon Knight, Captain America, Daredevil and so on. Marvel's stuck in a perpetual event frenzy of late that got tiring a long time ago, especially considering many of them are poor. But thankfully, those fringe series are of top quality. I just wish Marvel would get it in gear with both their other comics and animation.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2009, 03:10:52 AM »
Well I haven't seen any Marvel cartoons in many years...mostly cause I think western animation is quite crude and embarrassing to watch. I would love to see Marvel license their characters over to some top anime studios to do some more dark/adult type stuff. I got bored of Marvel right after the whole Spidey Clone stuff...at that point I had enough and looked elsewhere for stuff I could get into. I just got tired of Super Heroes and Marvels dumb plots. But in terms of animation, I want to see some anime based on Spidey and X-Men with a more darker feel and more emotion...stuff that could grip you. But that's just me, not that I hate all western animation..it's just that they keep going to the wrong people I think.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2009, 12:13:07 PM »
I'm not denying the fact that DC is better in animation than Marvel. Batman TAS is my favorite series. Justice League Unlimited is very close behind. But this toon was designed for really young kids, to get them into comics young. So I really don't see a problem with it.
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2009, 01:28:43 PM »
Well I haven't seen any Marvel cartoons in many years...mostly cause I think western animation is quite crude and embarrassing to watch. I would love to see Marvel license their characters over to some top anime studios to do some more dark/adult type stuff. I got bored of Marvel right after the whole Spidey Clone stuff...at that point I had enough and looked elsewhere for stuff I could get into. I just got tired of Super Heroes and Marvels dumb plots. But in terms of animation, I want to see some anime based on Spidey and X-Men with a more darker feel and more emotion...stuff that could grip you. But that's just me, not that I hate all western animation..it's just that they keep going to the wrong people I think.

Well western animation may seem crude, but I think anime is way overated. It looks the same after a while, and the plots are strikingly similar, and while at times complex are embarrasingly immature, cheesey and awkward.

Personally I thought Batman Gotham Knight was one of the worst DC films. To me it was like they crapped up Batman, and his villians to make them look like the same old anime stereotypes instead of just making the character look correct. If it hadn't been for Kevin Conroys voice, and the writing I wouldn't have bothered. So no offense but anime has a lot of flaws as well.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2009, 10:46:25 PM »
Well western animation may seem crude, but I think anime is way overated. It looks the same after a while, and the plots are strikingly similar, and while at times complex are embarrasingly immature, cheesey and awkward.

Personally I thought Batman Gotham Knight was one of the worst DC films. To me it was like they crapped up Batman, and his villians to make them look like the same old anime stereotypes instead of just making the character look correct. If it hadn't been for Kevin Conroys voice, and the writing I wouldn't have bothered. So no offense but anime has a lot of flaws as well.
Quoted for truth. Anime is by far the most over-rated thing going in cartoons.

In actuality, I find western animation to be a bit more on the distinct side. It used to be anyways. It used to be simpler and cleaner. Lately it seems like a lot of studios are trying to rip off the anime style, however, and it's been slowly bleeding out any originality and distinctiveness in our animation. Truth be told, I'm sick of anime; I used to be of the school that it was superior, but once the luster wears off and you start noticing it's numerous flaws, it starts getting almost unbearable.

Besides, they handed off a couple of their properties for anime films. The trailer for the Wolverine one seriously made me want to vomit all over my laptop. Thank goodness my iron will prevailed; I can't afford a new computer right now, after all.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2009, 11:13:06 PM »
Well western animation may seem crude, but I think anime is way overated. It looks the same after a while, and the plots are strikingly similar, and while at times complex are embarrasingly immature, cheesey and awkward.

Personally I thought Batman Gotham Knight was one of the worst DC films. To me it was like they crapped up Batman, and his villians to make them look like the same old anime stereotypes instead of just making the character look correct. If it hadn't been for Kevin Conroys voice, and the writing I wouldn't have bothered. So no offense but anime has a lot of flaws as well.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2009, 12:17:53 AM »
I never said anime is the be all, end all of animation so don't misunderstand me. It's just what I would prefer and we all have our own tastes and as such we all have the right to like what we want. I also said I don't hate all western animation, just that I feel they keep going to the wrong studios. It doesn't need to look like anime, but a darker tone would be nice. Anything like Batman TAS would be a welcome change, there is no need to dumb down these Marvel characters. But, since this is suppose to be for the little ones, they need something more on their level, but this is a bit too low. I guess it's fine for your average 3 or 5 year old, but most of us are much older and that is why we look at this and consider it silly. You sort of need to look at it from the perspective of a little child. If I had a kid, I much rather have them watch this than some of the other garbage on TV. Not like watch this or watching it with them is gonna hurt anyone, it's just harmless entertainment for the kiddies.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2009, 12:41:48 AM »
I don't see the big deal. Marvel made a cartoon for kids to get them hooked on comics early. This can only be good for the industry. Now if the Avengers movie is anything like this, I'll burn down Marvel's corporate office (It's near my job).

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2009, 03:49:29 AM »
I never said anime is the be all, end all of animation so don't misunderstand me.
Never said you did.

I just have an intense distaste for your common anime these days. Not that the same amount of American born cartoons don't suck lately either. But hey, what the hell, right? As Paul Dini says, animation is a pendulum; you have your upswings and you have your downswings.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2009, 03:57:40 AM »
I seen this earlier this months and I was gonna make a topic on it but I just didnt care cuz they really just went PG well marvel.....Your gonna be missed out of my life you had a good run. Imma always be a fan of the REAL marvel. Fudge Disney and there kiddie crap.
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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2009, 04:01:57 AM »
Never said you did.

I just have an intense distaste for your common anime these days. Not that the same amount of American born cartoons don't suck lately either. But hey, what the hell, right? As Paul Dini says, animation is a pendulum; you have your upswings and you have your downswings.

I agree, animation in general has it's ups and downs and various flaws and still has a lot of improvements to be made. It's all about how they go about doing things and the time and effort they decide to put into it. I also agree that most anime is generic and all the same, but I was mostly speaking of the truly good stuff that stands out.

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Re: Marvel's New Cartoon
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2009, 04:20:37 AM »
I agree, animation in general has it's ups and downs and various flaws and still has a lot of improvements to be made. It's all about how they go about doing things and the time and effort they decide to put into it. I also agree that most anime is generic and all the same, but I was mostly speaking of the truly good stuff that stands out.
I agree that the best in anime is literally the top of the heap (they don't come better than Cowboy Bebop), but I think some people downplay the accomplishments of western animation as well. So I suppose I'm a little jumpy to defend it. I've found that there are easily as many classic American cartoons as there are anime.

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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2009, 04:31:06 AM »
True there is great stuff on both sides of the fence, you just gotta look. Cowboy Bebop was more of what I was trying to reference to in terms of quality and style and it's one of my all time favorite shows out of Japan. Now only of we could somehow take the good qualities of both worlds and somehow get it to work right. I just wish western animators would put some more sophistication into their work, just go all out and and give us something we can sink our teeth into. I know they got the talent to do it.

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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2009, 06:04:16 AM »
I just hate how american cartoons have the whole plotline play out in a 22 minute time span.

In japanese animations the show is more like a soap opera that makes you tune in week after week to find out what happens next.

Even though the art work isnt as epic as the japanese counterpart, I would enjoy it if not for the whole bad story telling.

Its like they dont even put any effort into it.
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« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2009, 06:12:53 AM »
Well to be fair, most western cartoon shows keep each episode as a self contained story so people don't have to have seen every episode to watch it. They can just dive in anywhere. It makes even more sense when it's a little kids show like this one so it's easy to follow. But for me as an adult, yeah I prefer anime shows for it's cliff hangers and drama and how it's drawn out longer.

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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2009, 09:33:20 AM »
Personally I think anime's ongoing storylines make it a pain to watch. No offense anime fans but I don't care for anime enough I am going to go out and buy a season of it to watch in order. So if I turn it on TV in the middle of something I have no idea whats going on. Don't see that as a pro at all. And since every series does it, it all makes them come off similar.

I'll take the half hour episodes any day. Batman, and Justice League were ongoing series, and plots. They just finish a storyline before going to the next instead of listening to the same wining over, and over. While I like Blood +, and Bleach the same crying over the same plot points week, after week just gets annoying. After a while I just want to say SHUT UP! Someones in trouble, and for the next 50 episodes I gotta listen to some one carry on about it obsessive compulsively every episode. Thats the formula for a hundred differant anime's.

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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2009, 10:04:28 AM »
The Silver Surfer sounds like Michealagelo From the Ninja Turtles  but u know what  we cant be stingy let the kids enjoy it   there isnt alot of programming with marvel that caters to children who are 5 years old   we have sooo many animated and movies thats targets us   lets the kindergarden preschool kids enjoy something   my nephew loves it  hes only 7 

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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2009, 04:52:10 AM »
Personally I think anime's ongoing storylines make it a pain to watch. No offense anime fans but I don't care for anime enough I am going to go out and buy a season of it to watch in order. So if I turn it on TV in the middle of something I have no idea whats going on. Don't see that as a pro at all. And since every series does it, it all makes them come off similar.

I'll take the half hour episodes any day. Batman, and Justice League were ongoing series, and plots. They just finish a storyline before going to the next instead of listening to the same wining over, and over. While I like Blood +, and Bleach the same crying over the same plot points week, after week just gets annoying. After a while I just want to say SHUT UP! Someones in trouble, and for the next 50 episodes I gotta listen to some one carry on about it obsessive compulsively every episode. Thats the formula for a hundred differant anime's.

not for nothing, but that's the current "in" anime that (some) people like these days, you need to dive into the good stuff.
I mean, we are comparing this to other shows like Justice League, so why not compare it to something like, iunno (00079)Gundam, it's a shorter anime, easier to follow better then Code Geeese...or however you spell that...

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« Reply #42 on: October 10, 2009, 04:02:54 PM »
Deadpool should be in this show. :P
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