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IMT Discussions => M.U.G.E.N Discussion => Topic started by: MuηkyMØÜf on January 30, 2008, 06:59:34 AM

Title: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on January 30, 2008, 06:59:34 AM
What chars have you encountered that were made poorly, incomplete, broken, missing sprites, need animations, better AI or cheap but could use a good fixing.

*This is mostly for suggestions, constructive criticism & wishful thinking NOT flaming

My Choices:

God/Dead Vega ~ Get rid of that orb around him ~X(
Tabasa by NHK ~Perfect! Just add a few more hypers & convert 2 CvS ;*))
Legendary Ryu....OMFG he neeeds to be fixed 8=|
Shin Kaname Ameri ~ Smoother controls, a few more specials/hypers & Dosnt turn towards opponents when passed
Tetsu Yatogi - Needs better AI compared to edits
Shin Ken ~ Ridiculous AI for the last round
Ryuuken ~ Get rid of the stances to execute cetain moves
Ryu LVL 2 ~ Keep the combo system but change config for specials
God Silver ~ Could be a 6 button char with more specials & hypers
God Adel ~ Could be a 6 button char with more specials & hypers
QBEE.....Do I really have to say it?
God Orochi ~ Resize the specials. They cover the whole screen
Another Igniz ~ That Damn unblockable fire hyper
Q ~ Edit w/new & original gameplay
Twelve ~ Edit w/ne moves or better original gameplay
Necro ~ Edit w/new moves or better original gameplay
God Orochi Ryu
Lord Ryu
Bishamon
The Thing
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Tenspeed on January 30, 2008, 06:21:44 PM
I wish someone would finish the MVC style chris redfield. he would be awesome for EOH actually. a better partner for jill. He's playable as is, but he's lacking.

The same for spawn. give him proper chaining and super jump, some specials and hypers, and his voice from SCII and he's gold. it's things like these two guys that really makes me want to learn mugen coding.

I also wish that pizzaman's RE characters would be converted to normal mugen. I really want to have wesker and nemesis on my roster, but they just don't play right.

I also wish the team spoiler characters would get another run through the workshop. much like pizzaman's characters, they're highly desirable, but need some helping.
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on January 30, 2008, 07:27:11 PM
Team Spoiler's characters are mostly betas and most of them are new to creating. Shouldn't this thread be called incomplete characters you think should be completed?
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on January 30, 2008, 07:31:01 PM
Team Spoiler's characters are mostly betas and most of them are new to creating. Shouldn't this thread be called incomplete characters you think should be completed?

No, the point is to comment on chars you think could be better with an update or a few changes. Not nessecarily completed but yes, that is also encouraged.
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: malisiousjoe on January 30, 2008, 09:59:32 PM
Oro by Igniter and AlienNoseJob
Ibuki by Reza
Both are open source by the vay.
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on January 30, 2008, 10:15:26 PM
Team Spoiler's characters are mostly betas and most of them are new to creating. Shouldn't this thread be called incomplete characters you think should be completed?

No, the point is to comment on chars you think could be better with an update or a few changes. Not nessecarily completed but yes, that is also encouraged.

Alot of the characters listed aren't broken, they are in beta form or incomplete. A broken character is like Rare Akuma, Sephiroth, Omega Tom Hanks, etc. or atleast that what I have been reading the past few years.
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on January 30, 2008, 10:24:49 PM
most of kungfuman's characters   :-SS
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: aa250 on January 30, 2008, 11:09:49 PM
Darkseid he still good. :P
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on January 31, 2008, 12:12:07 AM
As Theendgame said, some of those characters aren't broken. Tetsu can be a little cheap, but far from broken. And some of them are just incomplete.

Ryuko has potential, though.
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on January 31, 2008, 12:27:42 AM
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What chars have you encountered that were made poorly, incomplete, broken, missing sprites, need animations, better AI or cheap but could use a good fixing.

*This is mostly for suggestions, constructive criticism & wishful thinking NOT flaming
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on January 31, 2008, 01:58:14 AM
I missed the AI part. Although it's a bit misleading to have a thread title with "Broken Chars" and then talk about characters that don't have good AI.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on January 31, 2008, 03:49:25 AM
*BROKEN REMOVED*


happy now :-w
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on January 31, 2008, 05:16:00 AM
super ken  :-&.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: C.R.O.M. jodafro619 on January 31, 2008, 08:01:42 AM
I think Static Shock needs to be completed. He has potential to be good in the right hands. Plus I think Liono needs to be revamped with Gill as a base! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on January 31, 2008, 09:25:23 AM
*BROKEN REMOVED*


happy now :-w

Quite.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Lightblackheart on January 31, 2008, 06:15:33 PM
static shock can be redone

most of kungfuman's characters   :-SS

true
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on January 31, 2008, 09:53:24 PM
super ken  :-&.

Ummm, IDK. I think he's alright other than some missing sprites.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: theshowstopper on February 01, 2008, 01:12:18 AM
Spawn and Carnage.

Carnage could've been way better and should've been way better.He doesnt have enough attacks,specials and supers.
Spawn just sucks butt in general
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Tenspeed on February 01, 2008, 01:38:26 PM
I think carnage is a beta, but I agree. on one hand it's like "oh sweet! carnage!" and on the other it's like "I'll hold off till he's complete."

I think he came out well though for what is done. twelve makes the perfect base for a guy like him, and I love his voice. I might be wrong, but I think I see a bit of lord raptor in his stance.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on February 01, 2008, 04:45:53 PM
I think Static Shock needs to be completed. He has potential to be good in the right hands. Plus I think Liono needs to be revamped with Gill as a base! :thumbsup:
i agree with static shock!
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: juelz aka wolfi on February 01, 2008, 05:19:48 PM
all the transformers needs to be re-done
i personally think that dragon claw should be a base for em (but that cannot be touched cuz i got respect for reu)

others like
the rock
steve austin
kliff undersen
others il mention soon
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Tenspeed on February 02, 2008, 09:57:54 PM
dragonclaw would be a sick base for the guyver.

the transformers just need some cleaner coding, better shading, and some more useful moves. they weren't programmed with the idea of fighitng people smaller than them, and they're huge, so a lot of their attacks won't connect.

oh yeah, someone should make snake and gray fox. that would be hot.
Title: Re: Broken Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Weapon x program on February 03, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
Team Spoiler's characters are mostly betas and most of them are new to creating. Shouldn't this thread be called incomplete characters you think should be completed?
working back on azrael :) ;)
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Toasty on February 03, 2008, 11:42:54 PM
Ghost Rider, he just needs a improved A.I, a couple more moves and maybe 1 more super and hyper each and hes good.
KH2 Sephiroth, this character only has 1 move from the ones I've found of him, needs more moves, needs hypers and supers, and a good A.I
All Cloud Strifes, like Sephiroth above.
Razel, when I had him I noticed the controls were a little messy and stuff, has potential but needs to have more to him.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: megaman781 on February 04, 2008, 01:23:48 AM
i think i would say mystic blaze's captain america, because he doesn't have all the special from MVC, and i think its the only MVC capamerica around.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Scar on February 04, 2008, 01:28:28 AM
Im working on an updated Cobra Commander.

Just look at my avatar and sig to see the new look.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on February 04, 2008, 01:30:14 AM
Im working on an updated Cobra Commander.

Just look at my avatar and sig to see the new look.

well i never would of guessed, best of luck scar  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Error Macro on February 04, 2008, 09:56:02 PM
Link by MICROmor - needs alot. I may end up completing him myself.

BTW, the new cobra looks cool!
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: BigJ on February 04, 2008, 11:35:55 PM
super ken  :-&.

Ummm, IDK. I think he's alright other than some missing sprites.

 :|
Hes a terrible char... just another broken overpowered stolen piece of crap.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Tenspeed on February 05, 2008, 04:32:47 AM
Im working on an updated Cobra Commander.

Just look at my avatar and sig to see the new look.


the SNK styled one was pretty rad for something unfinished. I am looking forward to this new one.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Tenspeed on February 05, 2008, 04:37:23 AM
i think i would say mystic blaze's captain america, because he doesn't have all the special from MVC, and i think its the only MVC capamerica around.

he's done in MSH style, hence the gems. hold start when you pick him to get him in MVC mode.

that one sepiroth could use a spot of work. you know, that one that walks backwards, has horrible shading, takes next to no damage, and has instadeath supers out the wazoo. I'm yet to find a decend cloud either. closest I found was a DBZ edit that can't use his sword.

Ghost rider would also benefit from not having those blue squares over all of his attacks that connect. I don't know what they are, but they look like CLSN boxes, which is strange because I'm not playing in debug mode. it's really a shame what happened with him, with the leaking and the rushed release and all. He was such an anticipated character.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Toasty on February 05, 2008, 04:25:07 PM
I don't see why creators these days just rush and rush and rush. Just take your times for the sake of MUGEN. A lot of us take time so we can perfect them, while others make them half-assed or broken pretty much.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Scar on February 05, 2008, 04:31:40 PM
You say that now, but then you have people bothering you and complaining that the character was never finished.

Their are always problems with whatever you do, thats why Its better to not announce anything at all until you are almost ready to release it.

Work on your creations and dont say a word until your 100% sure he is ready to go.

That just solves everybody's troubles.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: juelz aka wolfi on February 05, 2008, 07:23:10 PM
tru tru
i agree
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Swiziga on February 05, 2008, 10:28:15 PM
don't know how made him but i really hope someone would fix that cvs batsu
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Tenspeed on February 05, 2008, 10:33:36 PM
You say that now, but then you have people bothering you and complaining that the character was never finished.

Their are always problems with whatever you do, thats why Its better to not announce anything at all until you are almost ready to release it.

Work on your creations and dont say a word until your 100% sure he is ready to go.

That just solves everybody's troubles.


haha, then forums like this wouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on February 05, 2008, 10:48:33 PM
I think the 2nd Rare Akuma would be a nice Boss if he was toned down & didnt have infinites.
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Jessica Smoke on February 06, 2008, 01:30:26 PM
one char:

Devil Jin
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: Weapon x program on February 06, 2008, 02:17:01 PM
Im working on an updated Cobra Commander.

Just look at my avatar and sig to see the new look.

THE two of them will be in my roster ;)
Title: Re: Chars u think have Potential
Post by: MuηkyMØÜf on February 08, 2008, 01:48:08 AM
Im sorry but I have to add in TARNISHED RYU. Maybe I didnt get the update & I like him but this guy seriously needs some help <_<|...|
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