Post by: street_shark on December 01, 2007, 12:36:20 PM
personaly id like a 360 more just becuase i know i dont have to have a 42 in plasma tv hooked up with hdtv in order to get the full experience of a ps3. not only that but it just seems like the 360 is alot easier to use but ionno :-??
Post by: nick09 on December 01, 2007, 12:38:15 PM
just give the ps3 a year and people will be siding with sony.
Post by: street_shark on December 01, 2007, 12:47:24 PM
Post by: dennis872005 on December 01, 2007, 02:11:33 PM
yea it just bothers me how if i got a ps3 (regardless if its 600 dollars for 400) i wont get the full effect of it unless i got a baddass tv set up like that. other wise it feels like wasted $. with the 360 on the other hand, i have the option to buying an hd dvd player IF i want it.
what sucks about that is that there is a 400 dollars ps3 and if you want hd-dvd on xbox 360 you need to pay an extra 200 dollars. thats 550 dollars for the pro and 650 for the elite. and if you want wi-fi add another 100 dollars. thats 750 dollars for the pro. that is a big rip off. plus you don't need an hdtv for the ps3. and if you don't have an hd-tv for the 360 you are not experiencing it to the fullest either. i have a 42 inch hd tv and it looks way better than in my regular tvs.
Post by: Gigan X3 on December 01, 2007, 02:52:24 PM
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just wait 'till PSHome is released in the PS3 and GX3 will be siding with Sony.
No But Really I like all 3 consoles, I just won't pay that much for a console, I admit it is worth it though.
As of now the 360 kicks the PS3's butt in terms of games but when it comes to future games, the PS3 seems like it's gonna have a brighter future.
It will all come down to Wii/PS3 by then. :P
Post by: R.I.C.O - Teros on December 01, 2007, 02:55:06 PM
Game library wise... still PS3. 360's contains too many shooters, plus all that was exclusive on 360 that I wanted will be available on PS3 in the future (Bioshock, etc.). I prefer more single player games like Ratchet & Clank, Jak, etc.... plus I don't want to miss Tekken 6 (I own all Tekken games but the PSP game, which is on PS3 anyways). Uncharted looks awesome too.
Can't wait to get a PS3... whenever I can get one. I won't lie though, i'm going to get a PS3 before I get my 2nd 360. I will miss Dead Rising and Gears of War for awhile :(
Post by: nick09 on December 01, 2007, 03:01:06 PM
the 80GB will.
i mean it comes with a blu-ray dvd player($200-$500) and sixaxis controller($50 or lower) + plus it plays video games instead of a blu-ray dvd player.
Blu-ray dvd storage: Single-layer (25GB) - Dual-layer (50GB)
HD-dvd storage: Single-layer (15GB) - Dual-layer (30GB)
so it means when sony sells a ps3 they are really are getting little to no profit at all.
Post by: R.I.C.O - Teros on December 01, 2007, 03:22:03 PM
But that is one thing straying me away from purchasing it right at the moment is the no backwards compatibility for PS2 games. I'd like to have just one console out, not two. I mean, I don't even have my GC out because the Wii plays the games. It saves space.
They could of at least kept BC in for the 40gb model. Maybe a download in the future like 360 does?
Post by: nick09 on December 01, 2007, 03:47:34 PM
just go for the 80GB if you want to play the ps2 games on a ps3.
Post by: street_shark on December 01, 2007, 05:06:46 PM
its really interesting to see what the customer (towards the bottom) had to say about the systems. i think its kind of funny how each system comes with a catch. for people that dont have the whole 1080p tv set up, the 360 is best. but the 360 has alot of known problems. with the ps3, in order to get its full potential, especially for its blue ray capacity, you need to spend alot more then just 500$. so ionno, i guess it really depends on the person lol
Post by: dennis872005 on December 01, 2007, 05:59:37 PM
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2006/11/22/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-vs-nintendo-wii/
its really interesting to see what the customer (towards the bottom) had to say about the systems. i think its kind of funny how each system comes with a catch. for people that dont have the whole 1080p tv set up, the 360 is best. but the 360 has alot of known problems. with the ps3, in order to get its full potential, especially for its blue ray capacity, you need to spend alot more then just 500$. so ionno, i guess it really depends on the person lol
dude. trust me you are missing out on the full pontential of the 360 without an hd tv. and the 360 is the most expensive with its expensive accesories. for a pro with hd dvd and wifi it would cost a total of $650 dollars not to mention a measly 20 gig hard drive. i am getting a ps3 next year because it will have way better games next year.
Post by: A! on December 01, 2007, 07:31:12 PM
and i like both there the same for me just that xbox has gear of war
Post by: Marancv on December 01, 2007, 09:42:35 PM
if u all want i can post some info of the ps3 for ya
Post by: nick09 on December 01, 2007, 09:43:53 PM
go ahead, i triple dog dare you to. XD||
Post by: Russian Gestapo on December 01, 2007, 10:38:11 PM
And if I do ever upgrade my TV, at least my games will look even better :P Can't say that about an Xbox.
As for Wii, I think Smash Bros Brawl is enough to entice me (c'mon, Solid Snake and Sonic? My two fav. characters? In a fighting game? Someone snuck into my dreams, didn't they?). The price is a little bit high at the moment due to demand, but when it drops again I shall probably treat myself (always did want to play MGS: the Twin Snakes anyway).
Post by: dennis872005 on December 02, 2007, 01:01:55 AM
well maybe this is much info... but i just wanna let u know guys that I actually work in Sony...and PS3 is just going to kick some a$$es in pretty short time ;)
if u all want i can post some info of the ps3 for ya
yes please tell us what it is. i am itching to get a ps3
Post by: street_shark on December 02, 2007, 01:12:59 AM
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2006/11/22/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-vs-nintendo-wii/
its really interesting to see what the customer (towards the bottom) had to say about the systems. i think its kind of funny how each system comes with a catch. for people that dont have the whole 1080p tv set up, the 360 is best. but the 360 has alot of known problems. with the ps3, in order to get its full potential, especially for its blue ray capacity, you need to spend alot more then just 500$. so ionno, i guess it really depends on the person lol
dude. trust me you are missing out on the full pontential of the 360 without an hd tv. and the 360 is the most expensive with its expensive accesories. for a pro with hd dvd and wifi it would cost a total of $650 dollars not to mention a measly 20 gig hard drive. i am getting a ps3 next year because it will have way better games next year.
actually im sticking with wanting to get a 360. the elite comes with a 120 gb hard drive thats not measely, if anything thats alot more then youll ever need unless you truelly want to spend that much time online dl demos and what not onto the 360. and actually the game outlook for the ps3 isnt that great. the ps3 has about 7 different processors in it (i believe) that make it that much harder to make games for it. theres been so much beef already with different sony branded games that have seriously said "f**k it were going to 360" for example companies like grand theft auto. the finaly fantasy series was about to go onto the 360 but sony basicaly sucked their dicks and didnt. so if anything the 360 has and will have a better game outlook becuase its simply too difficult to make games for the ps3. working at best buy, its kind of sad how the biggest reason why people buy the ps3 is just becuase they can use it to play their ps2 games. and with the 360, of course you get the full experience through an hd tv, but its something where hey, if you dont have it, its still ok. itll still look tight. not only that but its easy to use. and the hddvd player you can buy for it isnt that expensive (179.99) which is below the avg of the hddvd players (theyve ranged from 200+). on top of all that its really user friendly unlike the ps3. and with the ps3 you DIFFENANTLY dont get the same effect on it on a reg tv as opposed to a fancy hd blue ray plasma blah blah blah tv....
...man i can go on and on :O*D
Post by: Super Senseless Violent Man on December 02, 2007, 01:18:34 AM
It has bettah graffix! (in my opinion)
The thing about PS3 is the games take too long to make,but it's worth it. Cool games are just coming out Ps3 eclusive!(Somewhat... <_<|...|)
I got a regular tv and it works fine woth Ps3! I got a big one for enhanced preformance! ;D
Post by: dennis872005 on December 02, 2007, 01:48:42 AM
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2006/11/22/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-vs-nintendo-wii/
its really interesting to see what the customer (towards the bottom) had to say about the systems. i think its kind of funny how each system comes with a catch. for people that dont have the whole 1080p tv set up, the 360 is best. but the 360 has alot of known problems. with the ps3, in order to get its full potential, especially for its blue ray capacity, you need to spend alot more then just 500$. so ionno, i guess it really depends on the person lol
dude. trust me you are missing out on the full pontential of the 360 without an hd tv. and the 360 is the most expensive with its expensive accesories. for a pro with hd dvd and wifi it would cost a total of $650 dollars not to mention a measly 20 gig hard drive. i am getting a ps3 next year because it will have way better games next year.
actually im sticking with wanting to get a 360. the elite comes with a 120 gb hard drive thats not measely, if anything thats alot more then youll ever need unless you truelly want to spend that much time online dl demos and what not onto the 360. and actually the game outlook for the ps3 isnt that great. the ps3 has about 7 different processors in it (i believe) that make it that much harder to make games for it. theres been so much beef already with different sony branded games that have seriously said "f**k it were going to 360" for example companies like grand theft auto. the finaly fantasy series was about to go onto the 360 but sony basicaly sucked their dicks and didnt. so if anything the 360 has and will have a better game outlook becuase its simply too difficult to make games for the ps3. working at best buy, its kind of sad how the biggest reason why people buy the ps3 is just becuase they can use it to play their ps2 games. and with the 360, of course you get the full experience through an hd tv, but its something where hey, if you dont have it, its still ok. itll still look tight. not only that but its easy to use. and the hddvd player you can buy for it isnt that expensive (179.99) which is below the avg of the hddvd players (theyve ranged from 200+). on top of all that its really user friendly unlike the ps3. and with the ps3 you DIFFENANTLY dont get the same effect on it on a reg tv as opposed to a fancy hd blue ray plasma blah blah blah tv....
...man i can go on and on :O*D
metal gear and final fantasy is all i need. the only fps shooter i like is halo and halo 4 is not gonna come out for a while. plus what games that measure up to mgs and final fantasy are coming to the 360. and you have to admit that the freaking accesories are expensive as hell. since i have an hd tv i would like to experience hd dvd but i aint payin no extra 200 dollars for it. plus why is a freaking wi-fi adapter 100 dollars and a 20 gig hard drive 100 dollars. and don't get me started on the crap out rate. i have gone through three 360's since i got it two months ago. if it weren't for halo i would have never gotten the 360. all exclusives are coming to pc and it has too many fps for me.
Post by: Gigan X3 on December 02, 2007, 04:04:29 AM
Quote from: Dennis
and it has too many fps for me.
Hey Got that Right! It becomes Annoying that most of them are the same thing "We look Cool...And We Play the same, Infact we are the same game, just different levels".
That's how it feels.
...In America.
Post by: street_shark on December 02, 2007, 04:22:24 AM
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2006/11/22/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-vs-nintendo-wii/
its really interesting to see what the customer (towards the bottom) had to say about the systems. i think its kind of funny how each system comes with a catch. for people that dont have the whole 1080p tv set up, the 360 is best. but the 360 has alot of known problems. with the ps3, in order to get its full potential, especially for its blue ray capacity, you need to spend alot more then just 500$. so ionno, i guess it really depends on the person lol
dude. trust me you are missing out on the full pontential of the 360 without an hd tv. and the 360 is the most expensive with its expensive accesories. for a pro with hd dvd and wifi it would cost a total of $650 dollars not to mention a measly 20 gig hard drive. i am getting a ps3 next year because it will have way better games next year.
actually im sticking with wanting to get a 360. the elite comes with a 120 gb hard drive thats not measely, if anything thats alot more then youll ever need unless you truelly want to spend that much time online dl demos and what not onto the 360. and actually the game outlook for the ps3 isnt that great. the ps3 has about 7 different processors in it (i believe) that make it that much harder to make games for it. theres been so much beef already with different sony branded games that have seriously said "f**k it were going to 360" for example companies like grand theft auto. the finaly fantasy series was about to go onto the 360 but sony basicaly sucked their dicks and didnt. so if anything the 360 has and will have a better game outlook becuase its simply too difficult to make games for the ps3. working at best buy, its kind of sad how the biggest reason why people buy the ps3 is just becuase they can use it to play their ps2 games. and with the 360, of course you get the full experience through an hd tv, but its something where hey, if you dont have it, its still ok. itll still look tight. not only that but its easy to use. and the hddvd player you can buy for it isnt that expensive (179.99) which is below the avg of the hddvd players (theyve ranged from 200+). on top of all that its really user friendly unlike the ps3. and with the ps3 you DIFFENANTLY dont get the same effect on it on a reg tv as opposed to a fancy hd blue ray plasma blah blah blah tv....
...man i can go on and on :O*D
metal gear and final fantasy is all i need. the only fps shooter i like is halo and halo 4 is not gonna come out for a while. plus what games that measure up to mgs and final fantasy are coming to the 360. and you have to admit that the freaking accesories are expensive as hell. since i have an hd tv i would like to experience hd dvd but i aint payin no extra 200 dollars for it. plus why is a freaking wi-fi adapter 100 dollars and a 20 gig hard drive 100 dollars. and don't get me started on the crap out rate. i have gone through three 360's since i got it two months ago. if it weren't for halo i would have never gotten the 360. all exclusives are coming to pc and it has too many fps for me.
well theres been plenty. gears of war, halo, assasins creed (which by the way was meant to be JUST for the ps3, but they of course sayed screw it and went to sale for the 360..it even came out a wk before the ps3 version release)
well the elite system will have all the memory you need for 379, seeing as you have the whole tv set up and you get an hd dvd player its another 179, that puts you at about 560. the 80 gb ps3 alone is 599 and it comes with blue ray. now...blue ray dvds cost on average 10 dollars more then hddvds do. so in essence like i sayed before, it comes down to image quality. if you got it, of course go for the ps3, but if you dont, a 360 is a more economical choice. the only time you have to spend 100-200 dollars on a hard drive is if you buy the arcade bundle 360. which no gamer in their right mind would do anyways? how would you expect to save on a system that comes with just 256 mb of memory? not only that but 360 games come compatible in 720p and 1080p anyways so if youre still looking for the picture quality, you'll still get it. now i admit ps3 has a better image (i mean crap, how can it not with 7 processors) but its technology that honestly is only reached at its full potential on a blu ray plasma tv, in which case not that very many are out yet. the VAST majority of tvs are hd, (which is what you have), so in essence, the 360 would most likely look better on that then with ur ps3 anyway. ps3 is mainly made for the future...about a year or 2 down the road (expect good games to follow in that path too) while the 360 is meant for today.
another thing concerning the wifi, sure its something thats seperate but its not something you HAVE to have. just have an ethernet cable and connect it to the router. now if in deed it is wireless and you do need that wifi adapter o'well. itll be worth it. becuase think about it dude, both the ps2 and the xbox were compatible with internet...but guess which one kicked more butt in that department? yes sir, xbox! xbox has xbox live, marketplace, and its pretty much the hot spot for gaming and downloading. think of it like this, if you need to rent a movie wheres the obvious choice? blockbuster or hollywood video? which one comes to mind first? exactly. so if your talking internet, xbox owns.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on December 02, 2007, 04:55:23 AM
what would exactly do? post the resolution? improve graphic?
i doubt it will improve the graphics lol.
i don't know guys but that's just pointless since the games will still lock better on x360.
i was waiting for an assassin creed Comparison and still x30 was he better one for that game..i watched the vs video on youtube and really the game looked much better on 360.
Post by: nick09 on December 02, 2007, 12:37:15 PM
you need to get a high end tv to get the best out of ps3? that's the first time i know this :-??
what would exactly do? post the resolution? improve graphic?
i doubt it will improve the graphics lol.
i don't know guys but that's just pointless since the games will still lock better on x360.
i was waiting for an assassin creed Comparison and still x30 was he better one for that game..i watched the vs video on youtube and really the game looked much better on 360.
hey here's a thing by 2009 all TVs on the store market WILL be HD ready.
its the government, by 2009 they will require all TV's in stores to be HD ready.
if i remember right plasma TV's are dropping in price.
i mean i have a 34" tube with able to do 1080i.
if you don't want to buy a new TV buy a HD converter.
they are all in stores.
keep in mine if you have not played a ps3 before you really don't know nothin.
TRY it BEFORE you BUY, Nuff said.
Post by: street_shark on December 02, 2007, 01:28:14 PM
you need to get a high end tv to get the best out of ps3? that's the first time i know this :-??
what would exactly do? post the resolution? improve graphic?
yes sir. just like when you buy an hdtv and they tell you to sign up for hd tv service. you get the best picture quality out of it. there is a considerable amount of difference when you watch regular cable on a hd tv and then flip the channel to an hd program and watch it.
Post by: nick09 on December 02, 2007, 01:36:44 PM
i have Digital cable and the picture is crystal clear.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 02, 2007, 08:24:31 PM
you need to get a high end tv to get the best out of ps3? that's the first time i know this :-??
what would exactly do? post the resolution? improve graphic?
yes sir. just like when you buy an hdtv and they tell you to sign up for hd tv service. you get the best picture quality out of it. there is a considerable amount of difference when you watch regular cable on a hd tv and then flip the channel to an hd program and watch it.
its the same for the xbox 360. so its not a con against the ps3. believe me you are not getting the best of the 360 on a regular tv. other wise why would they call it hd gaming. and i ain't paying $750(the elite with hd-dvd and wi-fi. and i need wi-fi since my internet connection is upstairs and my hd tv is downstairs.)for a console that might not have mgs and final fantasy and has a 33 percent crap rate. I mean i am sure you guys get alot more 360's returned that have crapped out than the ps3. the only game that distinguishes the 360 right now for me is halo, every other fps does not appeal to me. assasin's creed is also for the ps3 and no freaking good rpg has come out for the 360. that is why it is doing so horrible in japan. they have sold a pathetic 300,000 consoles since launch.
Post by: Gigan X3 on December 02, 2007, 11:08:21 PM
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assasin's creed is also for the ps3 and no freaking good rpg has come out for the 360.
There's Blue Dragon, And Well that's the only reason some Japaneses own a 360, Aside from that Nice Title there is no really Good RPGs for the 360.
Post by: street_shark on December 02, 2007, 11:23:36 PM
you need to get a high end tv to get the best out of ps3? that's the first time i know this :-??
what would exactly do? post the resolution? improve graphic?
yes sir. just like when you buy an hdtv and they tell you to sign up for hd tv service. you get the best picture quality out of it. there is a considerable amount of difference when you watch regular cable on a hd tv and then flip the channel to an hd program and watch it.
its the same for the xbox 360. so its not a con against the ps3. believe me you are not getting the best of the 360 on a regular tv. other wise why would they call it hd gaming. and i ain't paying $750(the elite with hd-dvd and wi-fi. and i need wi-fi since my internet connection is upstairs and my hd tv is downstairs.)for a console that might not have mgs and final fantasy and has a 33 percent crap rate. I mean i am sure you guys get alot more 360's returned that have crapped out than the ps3. the only game that distinguishes the 360 right now for me is halo, every other fps does not appeal to me. assasin's creed is also for the ps3 and no freaking good rpg has come out for the 360. that is why it is doing so horrible in japan. they have sold a pathetic 300,000 consoles since launch.
lol dude, you dont NEED to get the elite. no one needs 120 gb of hard drive. its the same misconception as with computers. laptops/desktops now are comming out with 320 gb of harddrive space and its funny how us as employees look at it and think...wow...this is strait up propaganda just becuase you'll never need that much space. you'll need to dl ALOT of crap to fill that up. and trust me, i KNOW you dont get the best out of a 360 if you dont have an hdtv, but its less of a let down if you dont. the ps3 runs on blu ray...if you play a ps3 on a bluray compatible tv with a 1080p screen compared to a conventional 480i screen (which most tvs made that are about 5+yrs or older are) you get a HUGE difference. now with the 360, its not that bad. regardless, yes you do need a nice tv to get the full experience, but its not so bad if you dont. now a days they make allll tvs hd compatible/built in. so you can get a great look from a 360 from a 780p/i lcd hdtv. and yea i admit we get more 360s exchanged/returned but thats becuase not that many people are buying ps3s to begin with.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on December 02, 2007, 11:29:15 PM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.you need to get a high end tv to get the best out of ps3? that's the first time i know this :-??
what would exactly do? post the resolution? improve graphic?
yes sir. just like when you buy an hdtv and they tell you to sign up for hd tv service. you get the best picture quality out of it. there is a considerable amount of difference when you watch regular cable on a hd tv and then flip the channel to an hd program and watch it.
its the same for the xbox 360. so its not a con against the ps3. believe me you are not getting the best of the 360 on a regular tv. other wise why would they call it hd gaming. and i ain't paying $750(the elite with hd-dvd and wi-fi. and i need wi-fi since my internet connection is upstairs and my hd tv is downstairs.)for a console that might not have mgs and final fantasy and has a 33 percent crap rate. I mean i am sure you guys get alot more 360's returned that have crapped out than the ps3. the only game that distinguishes the 360 right now for me is halo, every other fps does not appeal to me. assasin's creed is also for the ps3 and no freaking good rpg has come out for the 360. that is why it is doing so horrible in japan. they have sold a pathetic 300,000 consoles since launch.
lol dude, you dont NEED to get the elite. no one needs 120 gb of hard drive. its the same misconception as with computers. laptops/desktops now are comming out with 320 gb of harddrive space and its funny how us as employees look at it and think...wow...this is strait up propaganda just becuase you'll never need that much space. you'll need to dl ALOT of sh*t to fill that up. and trust me, i KNOW you dont get the best out of a 360 if you dont have an hdtv, but its less of a let down if you dont. the ps3 runs on blu ray...if you play a ps3 on a bluray compatible tv with a 1080p screen compared to a conventional 480i screen (which most tvs made that are about 5+yrs or older are) you get a HUGE difference. now with the 360, its not that bad. regardless, yes you do need a nice tv to get the full experience, but its not so bad if you dont. now a days they make allll tvs hd compatible/built in. so you can get a great look from a 360 from a 780p/i lcd hdtv. and yea i admit we get more 360s exchanged/returned but thats becuase not that many people are buying ps3s to begin with.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
Post by: street_shark on December 02, 2007, 11:59:47 PM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
<_<|...|and then of course you have your seldom few that do need a crapton of memory. thats why you "never say never". LOL
Post by: dennis872005 on December 03, 2007, 12:40:55 AM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
<_<|...|and then of course you have your seldom few that do need a crapton of memory. thats why you "never say never". LOL
i filled up my 20 gig hard drive in 3 days downloading demos and buying videos. you do know that hd video take a huge amount of space. luckily i have a 500 gig external hard drive. too bad i can't transfer my videos, since if my 360 craps out my videos are lost and crappy Microsoft won't refund it. good think they are adding divx and xvid playback so i can play it from my external hard drive. oh and even if i did not get the elite the pro is still $650 dollars with the hd-dvd and wi-fi and a puny 20 gig hard drive. not to mention it does not come with a rechargeable pack for the controller unlike the ps3. the ps3 is $400 dollars and comes with blu ray, wi-fi and rechargeable packs for the controller. so ps3 for me this christmas.
Post by: street_shark on December 03, 2007, 12:50:12 AM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
<_<|...|and then of course you have your seldom few that do need a crapton of memory. thats why you "never say never". LOL
i filled up my 20 gig hard drive in 3 days downloading demos and buying videos. you do know that hd video take a huge amount of space. luckily i have a 500 gig external hard drive. too bad i can't transfer my videos, since if my 360 craps out my videos are lost and crappy Microsoft won't refund it. good think they are adding divx and xvid playback so i can play it from my external hard drive. oh and even if i did not get the elite the pro is still $650 dollars with the hd-dvd and wi-fi and a puny 20 gig hard drive. not to mention it does not come with a rechargeable pack for the controller unlike the ps3. the ps3 is $400 dollars and comes with blu ray, wi-fi and rechargeable packs for the controller. so ps3 for me this christmas.
lol well you do know that the 400 dollar ps3 is the 40 gb...so your not looking at too much memory in that either. at last time i heard, you cant expand it to a 120gb like the 360. and if your looking to be able and play ps2 games, its gunna cost you more then just 400 bucks. plus the bluetooth technology on the ps3 controllers arnt always as reliable as you think.
lol man i think its funny how we can probably go all day with this :O*D
Post by: nick09 on December 03, 2007, 09:11:13 AM
just think the 40GB a striped downed model of the 80GB version.
the ps3 is cheap for what it has in it. <_<|...|
besides i mean you have to pay like 200 bucks for a HD dvd addon for the 360!?
with buying addons for the 360, it will go over $500.
take a look at this its a cool thing they are trying out:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/
Post by: dennis872005 on December 03, 2007, 11:17:54 AM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
<_<|...|and then of course you have your seldom few that do need a crapton of memory. thats why you "never say never". LOL
i filled up my 20 gig hard drive in 3 days downloading demos and buying videos. you do know that hd video take a huge amount of space. luckily i have a 500 gig external hard drive. too bad i can't transfer my videos, since if my 360 craps out my videos are lost and crappy Microsoft won't refund it. good think they are adding divx and xvid playback so i can play it from my external hard drive. oh and even if i did not get the elite the pro is still $650 dollars with the hd-dvd and wi-fi and a puny 20 gig hard drive. not to mention it does not come with a rechargeable pack for the controller unlike the ps3. the ps3 is $400 dollars and comes with blu ray, wi-fi and rechargeable packs for the controller. so ps3 for me this christmas.
lol well you do know that the 400 dollar ps3 is the 40 gb...so your not looking at too much memory in that either. at last time i heard, you cant expand it to a 120gb like the 360. and if your looking to be able and play ps2 games, its gunna cost you more then just 400 bucks. plus the bluetooth technology on the ps3 controllers arnt always as reliable as you think.
lol man i think its funny how we can probably go all day with this :O*D
yeah not much memory but twice as much. and guess what i can actually put files on the ps3 and watch movies without having to stream it. and i got a modded ps2 so i doubt the even the 60 gb can play my games. ;)
its cost for the ps3 to work with ps2 and ps1 games.
just think the 40GB a striped downed model of the 80GB version.
the ps3 is cheap for what it has in it. <_<|...|
besides i mean you have to pay like 200 bucks for a HD dvd addon for the 360!?
with buying addons for the 360, it will go over $500.
take a look at this its a cool thing they are trying out:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/
wow that is awesome. but can anyone do that right now or just people at sony? and user based content will probabily never come out for the 360
Post by: nick09 on December 03, 2007, 03:10:19 PM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
<_<|...|and then of course you have your seldom few that do need a crapton of memory. thats why you "never say never". LOL
i filled up my 20 gig hard drive in 3 days downloading demos and buying videos. you do know that hd video take a huge amount of space. luckily i have a 500 gig external hard drive. too bad i can't transfer my videos, since if my 360 craps out my videos are lost and crappy Microsoft won't refund it. good think they are adding divx and xvid playback so i can play it from my external hard drive. oh and even if i did not get the elite the pro is still $650 dollars with the hd-dvd and wi-fi and a puny 20 gig hard drive. not to mention it does not come with a rechargeable pack for the controller unlike the ps3. the ps3 is $400 dollars and comes with blu ray, wi-fi and rechargeable packs for the controller. so ps3 for me this christmas.
lol well you do know that the 400 dollar ps3 is the 40 gb...so your not looking at too much memory in that either. at last time i heard, you cant expand it to a 120gb like the 360. and if your looking to be able and play ps2 games, its gunna cost you more then just 400 bucks. plus the bluetooth technology on the ps3 controllers arnt always as reliable as you think.
lol man i think its funny how we can probably go all day with this :O*D
yeah not much memory but twice as much. and guess what i can actually put files on the ps3 and watch movies without having to stream it. and i got a modded ps2 so i doubt the even the 60 gb can play my games. ;)its cost for the ps3 to work with ps2 and ps1 games.
just think the 40GB a striped downed model of the 80GB version.
the ps3 is cheap for what it has in it. <_<|...|
besides i mean you have to pay like 200 bucks for a HD dvd addon for the 360!?
with buying addons for the 360, it will go over $500.
take a look at this its a cool thing they are trying out:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/
wow that is awesome. but can anyone do that right now or just people at sony? and user based content will probabily never come out for the 360
no that is just a idea for a game. :O*D
Post by: street_shark on December 03, 2007, 11:05:06 PM
I have a 500 gig external hard drive.
I've used about over 400 gigs in lil over a year.
Yes I need that much memory.
<_<|...|and then of course you have your seldom few that do need a crapton of memory. thats why you "never say never". LOL
i filled up my 20 gig hard drive in 3 days downloading demos and buying videos. you do know that hd video take a huge amount of space. luckily i have a 500 gig external hard drive. too bad i can't transfer my videos, since if my 360 craps out my videos are lost and crappy Microsoft won't refund it. good think they are adding divx and xvid playback so i can play it from my external hard drive. oh and even if i did not get the elite the pro is still $650 dollars with the hd-dvd and wi-fi and a puny 20 gig hard drive. not to mention it does not come with a rechargeable pack for the controller unlike the ps3. the ps3 is $400 dollars and comes with blu ray, wi-fi and rechargeable packs for the controller. so ps3 for me this christmas.
lol well you do know that the 400 dollar ps3 is the 40 gb...so your not looking at too much memory in that either. at last time i heard, you cant expand it to a 120gb like the 360. and if your looking to be able and play ps2 games, its gunna cost you more then just 400 bucks. plus the bluetooth technology on the ps3 controllers arnt always as reliable as you think.
lol man i think its funny how we can probably go all day with this :O*D
yeah not much memory but twice as much. and guess what i can actually put files on the ps3 and watch movies without having to stream it. and i got a modded ps2 so i doubt the even the 60 gb can play my games. ;)its cost for the ps3 to work with ps2 and ps1 games.
just think the 40GB a striped downed model of the 80GB version.
the ps3 is cheap for what it has in it. <_<|...|
besides i mean you have to pay like 200 bucks for a HD dvd addon for the 360!?
with buying addons for the 360, it will go over $500.
take a look at this its a cool thing they are trying out:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/11/14/video-of-new-research-conducted-with-playstation-eye/
wow that is awesome. but can anyone do that right now or just people at sony? and user based content will probabily never come out for the 360
well i guess what it comes down to then is just the consumer. much of it has to do with preference.
Post by: Freddy Mercury on December 04, 2007, 09:01:30 AM
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 04, 2007, 09:17:46 PM
Post by: nick09 on December 04, 2007, 09:27:53 PM
360 pwns the PS3
well.......why? :(|)
Post by: Gigan X3 on December 04, 2007, 09:46:13 PM
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360 pwns the PS3
Uhm...How? Only in terms of Shooters, Aside from that I don't think it's more than equal than the PS3.
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 04, 2007, 09:53:45 PM
and lets not get started with online. PSN may be free, but you pay for what you get. And Live is a very nice service. I don't think Second Li.... I mean Home is going to have much impact because from what has been shown, it does nothing to enhance gameplay experience. It only offers a 3D lobby.
Post by: street_shark on December 04, 2007, 11:06:51 PM
PS3 games suck. There is nothing on the system that is a must buy or that's not on another console right now. The only saving grace for the PS3 now is MGS4, and Final Fantasy. Everything else is either on the 360 or there is another nice alternative. The 360 just has the better software lineup as of now, and it's going to be very difficult for Sony to catch up simply because the 360's middleware is much more user friendly and cheaper, so games will be built mostly with that in mind and from the ground up on 360, then ported to PS3 in most cases with 3rd party games.
and lets not get started with online. PSN may be free, but you pay for what you get. And Live is a very nice service. I don't think Second Li.... I mean Home is going to have much impact because from what has been shown, it does nothing to enhance gameplay experience. It only offers a 3D lobby.
thats in relation to what i had said before too. becuase the ps3 has 7 processors, its VERY difficult for games to develop under that. the 360 has so much more of a game selection then the ps3 does and its funny how yall want to spend so much money just for two games that are for the ps3. (dont get me wrong final fantasy and metal gear are baddass, but still)
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on December 04, 2007, 11:37:08 PM
It is true, the PS3 is just hard to program for, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. PS2 had this SAME problem initially, but the developers figured it out and the rest is history. Give the developers enough time and they will figure out the PS3 (if Naughty Dog can do it, so can EA and the others gaming companies).
PSN is free and it is GOOD. Yes live is nice but.... I have a computer if I want to download shows, music and all that stuff. I would never pay for live cause I don't WANT that extra stuff. I just want to go online and play people or chat to people. Home's point ISN'T to enhance the gameplay experience, it is suppose to enhance the Sony community experience, that is the point of Home. I see myself using Home to chat to people and stuff. If Home is free, I'll certainly use it.
PS3 needs more games, it is starting to get them, but it needs more. The 360 isn't bad......but I don't like the fact it DIES on you. Yes the warranty is nice.....but I want it just in case, not for the when it will happen. I kinda don't want to be without a 360 for a month if I get one or go through 2-3 of them either (yes I have heard people going through 2-3 360s or people claim that they did). I am right now PRETTY happy with my PS3, but I CAN see myself buying a 360 in the future.
Post by: street_shark on December 05, 2007, 12:46:52 PM
Of course the 360 has more games, it has been out longer than the PS3. I disagree with you Toph, Uncharted and Ratched and Clank ARE must buys, especially Uncharted. They are however not good enough for you to buy a PS3 (no one or 2 games IMO aren't, not even Halo, FF MGS, etc.). With that said, that is basically the ONLY two PS3 only game must buys that I can think of (Heavenly Sword is just WAY too short to be a must buy).
It is true, the PS3 is just hard to program for, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. PS2 had this SAME problem initially, but the developers figured it out and the rest is history. Give the developers enough time and they will figure out the PS3 (if Naughty Dog can do it, so can EA and the others gaming companies).
PSN is free and it is GOOD. Yes live is nice but.... I have a computer if I want to download shows, music and all that stuff. I would never pay for live cause I don't WANT that extra stuff. I just want to go online and play people or chat to people. Home's point ISN'T to enhance the gameplay experience, it is suppose to enhance the Sony community experience, that is the point of Home. I see myself using Home to chat to people and stuff. If Home is free, I'll certainly use it.
PS3 needs more games, it is starting to get them, but it needs more. The 360 isn't bad......but I don't like the fact it DIES on you. Yes the warranty is nice.....but I want it just in case, not for the when it will happen. I kinda don't want to be without a 360 for a month if I get one or go through 2-3 of them either (yes I have heard people going through 2-3 360s or people claim that they did). I am right now PRETTY happy with my PS3, but I CAN see myself buying a 360 in the future.
in response to the 360 crashing alot, they have made differences in processors in the last month, i cant remember but i believe the changed the 1.3 ghz into a 1.7. so that problem should be fixed. they updated alot of stuff within the 360 that should ail it of that. (dont quote me on the numbers though but they were somewhere along those lines)
Post by: dennis872005 on December 05, 2007, 01:15:43 PM
PS3 games suck. There is nothing on the system that is a must buy or that's not on another console right now. The only saving grace for the PS3 now is MGS4, and Final Fantasy. Everything else is either on the 360 or there is another nice alternative. The 360 just has the better software lineup as of now, and it's going to be very difficult for Sony to catch up simply because the 360's middleware is much more user friendly and cheaper, so games will be built mostly with that in mind and from the ground up on 360, then ported to PS3 in most cases with 3rd party games.
and lets not get started with online. PSN may be free, but you pay for what you get. And Live is a very nice service. I don't think Second Li.... I mean Home is going to have much impact because from what has been shown, it does nothing to enhance gameplay experience. It only offers a 3D lobby.
thats in relation to what i had said before too. becuase the ps3 has 7 processors, its VERY difficult for games to develop under that. the 360 has so much more of a game selection then the ps3 does and its funny how yall want to spend so much money just for two games that are for the ps3. (dont get me wrong final fantasy and metal gear are baddass, but still)
there are about 3 to 4 must have games for the ps3 this year. and the 360 has like what the same. forza which is no gran turismo,gpr4 good arcade racing game nothing to exciting, and halo. bioshock is not exclusive [-X it already came out on pc and almost all 360 so called "exclusives will come out for the pc. and what must have games are gonna come out exclusively for the 360 next year. halo war sucks and halo 4 won't come out for a while. next year its all about the ps3. (and wii but whatever.) also remember this is the first year of the console. all consoles start to get their great games on their second year. like the 360 got halo this year.
Post by: Gigan X3 on December 05, 2007, 01:50:36 PM
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and lets not get started with online. PSN may be free, but you pay for what you get. And Live is a very nice service. I don't think Second Li.... I mean Home is going to have much impact because from what has been shown, it does nothing to enhance gameplay experience. It only offers a 3D lobby
I already paid a ridiculous ammount of money for a gaming console why Am I supposed to pay again for things I can do better and for Free in my PC?
PS3 may not be a Gaming console but it works better as one when it comes to Online services, This is the word of GX3.
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there are about 3 to 4 must have games for the ps3 this year. and the 360 has like what the same. forza which is no gran turismo,gpr4 good arcade racing game nothing to exciting, and halo. bioshock is not exclusive it already came out on pc and almost all 360 so called "exclusives will come out for the pc. and what must have games are gonna come out exclusively for the 360 next year. halo war sucks and halo 4 won't come out for a while. next year its all about the ps3. (and wii but whatever.) also remember this is the first year of the console. all consoles start to get their great games on their second year. like the 360 got halo this year.
True.
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 05, 2007, 04:08:00 PM
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I already paid a ridiculous ammount of money for a gaming console why Am I supposed to pay again for things I can do better and for Free in my PC?
somple, don't buy it, no one said you have to buy it. But it's a great service weather it's free or not, much better than PSN.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 05, 2007, 04:25:25 PM
QuoteI already paid a ridiculous ammount of money for a gaming console why Am I supposed to pay again for things I can do better and for Free in my PC?
somple, don't buy it, no one said you have to buy it. But it's a great service weather it's free or not, much better than PSN.
they do nothing for me. i would not have a problem if they actually did something like say have dedicated servers. xbox live is a joke for not being free.
Post by: nick09 on December 05, 2007, 07:03:37 PM
QuoteI already paid a ridiculous ammount of money for a gaming console why Am I supposed to pay again for things I can do better and for Free in my PC?
somple, don't buy it, no one said you have to buy it. But it's a great service weather it's free or not, much better than PSN.
they do nothing for me. i would not have a problem if they actually did something like say have dedicated servers. xbox live is a joke for not being free.
they would of cut that price very much if the xbox acted as a server.
like the ps3 does.
also making games for the ps3 takes long because of the technology.
the ps3 has 8 different processors, to use up.
thus it takes longer, because they want better effects in a game.
let me tell you ps3 technology is different than the 360's.
Post by: Gigan X3 on December 05, 2007, 09:02:26 PM
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somple, don't buy it, no one said you have to buy it. But it's a great service weather it's free or not, much better than PSN.
Yet the console's Big Points revolve around Live with "Game Experience may change During Online Play" "Online Play Supported" stuff like that. People keep saying "If you want to enjoy the game at it's fullest you need to play it Live".
Sounds like True bulls***.
Post by: Cyclysm on December 06, 2007, 01:29:09 PM
yea it just bothers me how if i got a ps3 (regardless if its 600 dollars for 400) i wont get the full effect of it unless i got a baddass tv set up like that. other wise it feels like wasted $. with the 360 on the other hand, i have the option to buying an hd dvd player IF i want it.
what sucks about that is that there is a 400 dollars ps3 and if you want hd-dvd on xbox 360 you need to pay an extra 200 dollars. thats 550 dollars for the pro and 650 for the elite. and if you want wi-fi add another 100 dollars. thats 750 dollars for the pro. that is a big rip off. plus you don't need an hdtv for the ps3. and if you don't have an hd-tv for the 360 you are not experiencing it to the fullest either. i have a 42 inch hd tv and it looks way better than in my regular tvs.
:lies: :lies: :lies:
I bought my HD-DVD Drive for about $140 at my Wal-Mart.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 06, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
yea it just bothers me how if i got a ps3 (regardless if its 600 dollars for 400) i wont get the full effect of it unless i got a baddass tv set up like that. other wise it feels like wasted $. with the 360 on the other hand, i have the option to buying an hd dvd player IF i want it.
what sucks about that is that there is a 400 dollars ps3 and if you want hd-dvd on xbox 360 you need to pay an extra 200 dollars. thats 550 dollars for the pro and 650 for the elite. and if you want wi-fi add another 100 dollars. thats 750 dollars for the pro. that is a big rip off. plus you don't need an hdtv for the ps3. and if you don't have an hd-tv for the 360 you are not experiencing it to the fullest either. i have a 42 inch hd tv and it looks way better than in my regular tvs.
:lies: :lies: :lies:
I bought my HD-DVD Drive for about $140 at my Wal-Mart.
i bet it was on sale.but okay then lets add 140 dollars to the pro which i bought. that is 490 dollars. not to mention no wi-fi so add 100 dollars for that. that is 590 dollars. you can't deny that xbox accessories are to expensive. hd dvd player were going for a hundred dollars. and i still have to pay another 30 bucks to have rechargable battery packs.
Post by: Cyclysm on December 06, 2007, 02:28:34 PM
yea it just bothers me how if i got a ps3 (regardless if its 600 dollars for 400) i wont get the full effect of it unless i got a baddass tv set up like that. other wise it feels like wasted $. with the 360 on the other hand, i have the option to buying an hd dvd player IF i want it.
what sucks about that is that there is a 400 dollars ps3 and if you want hd-dvd on xbox 360 you need to pay an extra 200 dollars. thats 550 dollars for the pro and 650 for the elite. and if you want wi-fi add another 100 dollars. thats 750 dollars for the pro. that is a big rip off. plus you don't need an hdtv for the ps3. and if you don't have an hd-tv for the 360 you are not experiencing it to the fullest either. i have a 42 inch hd tv and it looks way better than in my regular tvs.
:lies: :lies: :lies:
I bought my HD-DVD Drive for about $140 at my Wal-Mart.
i bet it was on sale.but okay then lets add 140 dollars to the pro which i bought. that is 490 dollars. not to mention no wi-fi so add 100 dollars for that. that is 590 dollars. you can't deny that xbox accessories are to expensive. hd dvd player were going for a hundred dollars. and i still have to pay another 30 bucks to have rechargable battery packs.
Yeah bet atleast 360 has good games(Dead Rising,dead or Alive 4,Condemned,Gears Of War,etc..)
PS3 has what Lair and Heavenly Sword those suck.I know everyone will keep telling me what about MGS4,I don't really care because it's not even out yet.
Oh and 360 HAS DEVIL MAY CRY 4 and VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 YES!!!!!The only two games that made me want to get a PS3
In my opinion as of now, I think buying PS3 isn't a good idea,I will probably buy one when it gets some good exclusives.
I don't know why I'm backing 360 so much I mean I'm getting mine repaired,It sucks pretty hard on alot of perspectives /:O,but so does the PS3
I think I will stick to my $2000 next Gen PC,I just bought Unreal Tournament III AND CRYSIS AND THEY OWN ANY GAME IVE PLAYED ON A CONSOLE IN A LONG TIME :o :o :o.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 06, 2007, 02:33:06 PM
ucharted, and ratchet and clank are also good. i do agree that rigth now the 360 games has better games. but ps3 still has good games that appeal to me so i will still buy it and think its a good deal. that sucks about your 360 but hey we took that risk when we bought it. i have been trough three in a month and half. so yeah it sucks, and i am not liking the 360 anymore because i am not a big fan of fps besides halo.yea it just bothers me how if i got a ps3 (regardless if its 600 dollars for 400) i wont get the full effect of it unless i got a baddass tv set up like that. other wise it feels like wasted $. with the 360 on the other hand, i have the option to buying an hd dvd player IF i want it.
what sucks about that is that there is a 400 dollars ps3 and if you want hd-dvd on xbox 360 you need to pay an extra 200 dollars. thats 550 dollars for the pro and 650 for the elite. and if you want wi-fi add another 100 dollars. thats 750 dollars for the pro. that is a big rip off. plus you don't need an hdtv for the ps3. and if you don't have an hd-tv for the 360 you are not experiencing it to the fullest either. i have a 42 inch hd tv and it looks way better than in my regular tvs.
:lies: :lies: :lies:
I bought my HD-DVD Drive for about $140 at my Wal-Mart.
i bet it was on sale.but okay then lets add 140 dollars to the pro which i bought. that is 490 dollars. not to mention no wi-fi so add 100 dollars for that. that is 590 dollars. you can't deny that xbox accessories are to expensive. hd dvd player were going for a hundred dollars. and i still have to pay another 30 bucks to have rechargable battery packs.
Yeah bet atleast 360 has good games(Dead Rising,dead or Alive 4,Condemned,Gears Of War,etc..)
PS3 has what Lair and Heavenly Sword those suck.I know everyone will keep telling me what about MGS4,I don't really care because it's not even out yet.
Oh and 360 HAS DEVIL MAY CRY 4 and VIRTUA FIGHTER 5 YES!!!!!The only two games that made me want to get a PS3
In my opinion as of now, I think buying PS3 isn't a good idea,I will probably buy one when it gets some good exclusives.
I don't know why I'm backing 360 so much I mean I'm getting mine repaired,It sucks pretty hard on alot of perspectives /:O,but so does the PS3
I think I will stick to my $2000 next Gen PC,I just bought Unreal Tournament III AND CRYSIS AND THEY OWN ANY GAME IVE PLAYED ON A CONSOLE IN A LONG TIME :o :o :o.
Post by: RiceZilla on December 06, 2007, 02:45:11 PM
PS3 > ALL Systems.
DMC4, Rachet and Clank, MGS4, and Disgea 3+It can play PS2 games. :thumbsup:
Own all 360 Games(cept Halo 3). ^-^
Everyone has there on opinion.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 06, 2007, 02:49:13 PM
Post by: Cyclysm on December 06, 2007, 02:52:46 PM
I like 360..But i'd go with PS3. :-??
PS3 > ALL Systems.
DMC4, Rachet and Clank, MGS4, and Disgea 3+It can play PS2 games. :thumbsup:
Own all 360 Games(cept Halo 3). ^-^
Everyone has there on opinion.
DMC4 IS ON PC AND 360
Post by: street_shark on December 06, 2007, 10:59:11 PM
I am getting both so i do not have to choose between halo or mgs. :)
damn :| either youre a really lucky kid for being rich or really lucky for being spoiled
Post by: dennis872005 on December 07, 2007, 12:08:01 AM
I am getting both so i do not have to choose between halo or mgs. :)
damn :| either youre a really lucky kid for being rich or really lucky for being spoiled
nope I just get a paycheck and buy the ps3. I don't think that has anything to do with luck its called a job. you should try it out.
Post by: street_shark on December 07, 2007, 02:31:30 AM
I am getting both so i do not have to choose between halo or mgs. :)
damn :| either youre a really lucky kid for being rich or really lucky for being spoiled
nope I just get a paycheck and buy the ps3. I don't think that has anything to do with luck its called a job. you should try it out.
woa calm down tough guy, trust me ive got one. sorry i cant spend my pay checks on games, i actually got bills to pay. something you'll learn about when you grow up. ;D
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 07, 2007, 04:29:41 AM
Post by: street_shark on December 07, 2007, 10:03:03 AM
some people have no idea on how games development works nor the technology of the PS3
~:> its too bad. but i guess everyone else is right...just give the ps3 about 2 or 3 years.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 07, 2007, 02:46:30 PM
I am getting both so i do not have to choose between halo or mgs. :)
damn :| either youre a really lucky kid for being rich or really lucky for being spoiled
nope I just get a paycheck and buy the ps3. I don't think that has anything to do with luck its called a job. you should try it out.
woa calm down tough guy, trust me ive got one. sorry i cant spend my pay checks on games, i actually got bills to pay. something you'll learn about when you grow up. ;D
i also pay bills like the water, and gas and electricity but i make enough to buy games and pay the bills. its something you might get to do when you get a better job. ;)
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on December 07, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
System quality wise: PS3, because the 360's life span is a year or less (3 red lights). Then you have to go ship it in... then wait for a month or two to get it back.I haven't had the 3 red lights, and I have had mine for well over a year.
Must be one of those 1 out every 100 systems kind of deals.
I remember I had a ps2 that would scratch the poop out of any disc I put it, and nobody else I knew had the same problem.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 07, 2007, 03:13:28 PM
System quality wise: PS3, because the 360's life span is a year or less (3 red lights). Then you have to go ship it in... then wait for a month or two to get it back.I haven't had the 3 red lights, and I have had mine for well over a year.
Must be one of those 1 out every 100 systems kind of deals.
I remember I had a ps2 that would scratch the poop out of any disc I put it, and nobody else I knew had the same problem.
the problem is much bigger than the lasers and dvd drive on the ps2. and 360 completely destroy dvd's if you move it.
go to the xbox forums. the topic about returns shipping and repairs almost has 500,000 views. along with the topic of how to check if you have a falcon chip. that is just sad for microsoft. i think they also took the topic the rrod club and it had like 400,000 views. i wonder why?
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 07, 2007, 03:35:41 PM
System quality wise: PS3, because the 360's life span is a year or less (3 red lights). Then you have to go ship it in... then wait for a month or two to get it back.I haven't had the 3 red lights, and I have had mine for well over a year.
Must be one of those 1 out every 100 systems kind of deals.
I remember I had a ps2 that would scratch the poop out of any disc I put it, and nobody else I knew had the same problem.
the problem is much bigger than the lasers and dvd drive on the ps2. and 360 completely destroy dvd's if you move it.
go to the xbox forums. the topic about returns shipping and repairs almost has 500,000 views. along with the topic of how to check if you have a falcon chip. that is just sad for microsoft. i think they also took the topic the rrod club and it had like 400,000 views. i wonder why?
You have to think about it like this, at least Microsoft were men enough to step forward and admit that there is a problem and step up their warranties. Hell they even pay shipping both ways in the states.
But it's not about hardware, it's about the games, and you must wonder if Microsoft has such bad hardware, then why do people still support them? I mean they make the sales, but the hardware is garbage, then why keep buying it? It's the software, and the 360 has the same exact advantage that the PS2 had, a year lead, and better software, and bigger installed base.
Post by: nick09 on December 07, 2007, 03:39:57 PM
I am getting both so i do not have to choose between halo or mgs. :)
damn :| either youre a really lucky kid for being rich or really lucky for being spoiled
nope I just get a paycheck and buy the ps3. I don't think that has anything to do with luck its called a job. you should try it out.
woa calm down tough guy, trust me ive got one. sorry i cant spend my pay checks on games, i actually got bills to pay. something you'll learn about when you grow up. ;D
i also pay bills like the water, and gas and electricity but i make enough to buy games and pay the bills. its something you might get to do when you get a better job. ;)
i worked for my ps3 too.
in the summer i worked about 5 days per a week, which i worked for 9 weeks.
my mom forced me to work the ninth week tho. :-"
System quality wise: PS3, because the 360's life span is a year or less (3 red lights). Then you have to go ship it in... then wait for a month or two to get it back.I haven't had the 3 red lights, and I have had mine for well over a year.
Must be one of those 1 out every 100 systems kind of deals.
I remember I had a ps2 that would scratch the poop out of any disc I put it, and nobody else I knew had the same problem.
the problem is much bigger than the lasers and dvd drive on the ps2. and 360 completely destroy dvd's if you move it.
go to the xbox forums. the topic about returns shipping and repairs almost has 500,000 views. along with the topic of how to check if you have a falcon chip. that is just sad for microsoft. i think they also took the topic the rrod club and it had like 400,000 views. i wonder why?
You have to think about it like this, at least Microsoft were men enough to step forward and admit that there is a problem and step up their warranties. Hell they even pay shipping both ways in the states.
But it's not about hardware, it's about the games, and you must wonder if Microsoft has such bad hardware, then why do people still support them? I mean they make the sales, but the hardware is garbage, then why keep buying it? It's the software, and the 360 has the same exact advantage that the PS2 had, a year lead, and better software, and bigger installed base.
yet the ps3 has quality.
Sony worked their @$$ off to make the ps3 the best out there, in hardware.
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 07, 2007, 03:51:49 PM
The same thing is happening with the 360 and the PS3. The 360 breaks all the time, has a greater selection of games, a head start and a bigger installed base. The PS3 has quality hardware and more powerful hardware, see where I'm going with this???
Post by: dennis872005 on December 07, 2007, 05:01:27 PM
^^^ you are correct, and this applies to the original Xbox. It's an exact mirror of what happened last gen. The Xbox had quality, PS2 broke all the time, I went through a few, but the PS2 had a much greater selection, a head start, and a bigger installed base. The Xbox had....quality hardware, and more powerful hardware, and who still came out on top? PS2.
The same thing is happening with the 360 and the PS3. The 360 breaks all the time, has a greater selection of games, a head start and a bigger installed base. The PS3 has quality hardware and more powerful hardware, see where I'm going with this???
the only thing is that the ps3 has a blu-ray player so it might have longer life than the 360. plus the 360 is doing horrible in japan. the 360 with supposedly the greatest line up of games in the history of games has only out sold the ps3 with no games by 10,000 units this holiday season. if microsoft does not get japan which it won't (they sell like 5,000 consoles a week) they will be in trouble. not to mention they have lost billions on the xbox and if they can't make it up with the 360 they may be forced to release a new console in three years.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on December 07, 2007, 05:07:28 PM
I mean c'mon. Sega has had many mascots but lost almost all of them.
So has Sony.
Back two console wars ago there was
Sega, Sony, and Nintendo.
Sega's Dreamcast came out after Nintendo and Sony, and the quality of the system was better, but do to being outsold by the other systems, Sega died.
Sony as of now is already in the red flag, and it's because of this red flag that Capcom is moving some of their sony exclusives to Microsoft and Nintendo. Imo it's a very good choice. Sony dropped their price already, and still it's in the red flag.
I honestly wish Metal Gear and Tekken went over to Microsoft so I could sell my ps3.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 07, 2007, 05:22:59 PM
IMO Sony is the new Sega.
I mean c'mon. Sega has had many mascots but lost almost all of them.
So has Sony.
Back two console wars ago there was
Sega, Sony, and Nintendo.
Sega's Dreamcast came out after Nintendo and Sony, and the quality of the system was better, but do to being outsold by the other systems, Sega died.
Sony as of now is already in the red flag, and it's because of this red flag that Capcom is moving some of their sony exclusives to Microsoft and Nintendo. Imo it's a very good choice. Sony dropped their price already, and still it's in the red flag.
I honestly wish Metal Gear and Tekken went over to Microsoft so I could sell my ps3.
that is only because sega could not compete in japan. right now in japan the console war is only ps3 and nintendo. xbox 360 sales are pathetic over there.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on December 07, 2007, 05:38:08 PM
Actually I would imagine the Dreamcast is pretty popular in Japan. I mean they still are making Dreamcast games. It's not like you see people still making PS1 games for it.IMO Sony is the new Sega.
I mean c'mon. Sega has had many mascots but lost almost all of them.
So has Sony.
Back two console wars ago there was
Sega, Sony, and Nintendo.
Sega's Dreamcast came out after Nintendo and Sony, and the quality of the system was better, but do to being outsold by the other systems, Sega died.
Sony as of now is already in the red flag, and it's because of this red flag that Capcom is moving some of their sony exclusives to Microsoft and Nintendo. Imo it's a very good choice. Sony dropped their price already, and still it's in the red flag.
I honestly wish Metal Gear and Tekken went over to Microsoft so I could sell my ps3.
that is only because sega could not compete in japan. right now in japan the console war is only ps3 and nintendo. xbox 360 sales are pathetic over there.
Post by: dennis872005 on December 07, 2007, 05:42:06 PM
Actually I would imagine the Dreamcast is pretty popular in Japan. I mean they still are making Dreamcast games. It's not like you see people still making PS1 games for it.IMO Sony is the new Sega.
I mean c'mon. Sega has had many mascots but lost almost all of them.
So has Sony.
Back two console wars ago there was
Sega, Sony, and Nintendo.
Sega's Dreamcast came out after Nintendo and Sony, and the quality of the system was better, but do to being outsold by the other systems, Sega died.
Sony as of now is already in the red flag, and it's because of this red flag that Capcom is moving some of their sony exclusives to Microsoft and Nintendo. Imo it's a very good choice. Sony dropped their price already, and still it's in the red flag.
I honestly wish Metal Gear and Tekken went over to Microsoft so I could sell my ps3.
that is only because sega could not compete in japan. right now in japan the console war is only ps3 and nintendo. xbox 360 sales are pathetic over there.
its not as popular as the ps2, wii, or ps3. sony is not the new sega. i mean last year xbox had about the same sales as the ps3 this year. it only did a little better. and with the price being cheaper than the ps3. next year trust me it will sale like crazy in japan with final fantasy.
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on December 07, 2007, 11:06:33 PM
This is from the head of a D3 division, a Japanese publisher. It's a shame people in Japan don't buy the 360, it's like they're afraid of it or don't like it because it's American, but us Americans buy anything they poop out.
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on December 08, 2007, 02:12:40 AM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on December 08, 2007, 02:19:00 AM
You have to remember though. Every generation of video gamers, the population rate gets bigger, I remember back when I was a kid, anybody played games were called nerds and such, a few years later and everyone started raising people to play video games. So of course the statistics of the sellings of the next gen and the last would be a bit sketchy. Like I said though, I feel like Sony is the new Sega. I feel like I'm going through a total dejavu experience. The only reason I imagine Sony wouldn't turn into a multiplatform game developer is because they produce so much other things than video games, like CD players, headphones. I'm sure they produce tv sets, and stereo's too. I was really looking forward to Sony's Q-Rio, but it got canned. :(Actually I would imagine the Dreamcast is pretty popular in Japan. I mean they still are making Dreamcast games. It's not like you see people still making PS1 games for it.IMO Sony is the new Sega.
I mean c'mon. Sega has had many mascots but lost almost all of them.
So has Sony.
Back two console wars ago there was
Sega, Sony, and Nintendo.
Sega's Dreamcast came out after Nintendo and Sony, and the quality of the system was better, but do to being outsold by the other systems, Sega died.
Sony as of now is already in the red flag, and it's because of this red flag that Capcom is moving some of their sony exclusives to Microsoft and Nintendo. Imo it's a very good choice. Sony dropped their price already, and still it's in the red flag.
I honestly wish Metal Gear and Tekken went over to Microsoft so I could sell my ps3.
that is only because sega could not compete in japan. right now in japan the console war is only ps3 and nintendo. xbox 360 sales are pathetic over there.
its not as popular as the ps2, wii, or ps3. sony is not the new sega. i mean last year xbox had about the same sales as the ps3 this year. it only did a little better. and with the price being cheaper than the ps3. next year trust me it will sale like crazy in japan with final fantasy.
Post by: street_shark on December 09, 2007, 01:45:19 PM
I am getting both so i do not have to choose between halo or mgs. :)
damn :| either youre a really lucky kid for being rich or really lucky for being spoiled
nope I just get a paycheck and buy the ps3. I don't think that has anything to do with luck its called a job. you should try it out.
woa calm down tough guy, trust me ive got one. sorry i cant spend my pay checks on games, i actually got bills to pay. something you'll learn about when you grow up. ;D
i also pay bills like the water, and gas and electricity but i make enough to buy games and pay the bills. its something you might get to do when you get a better job. ;)
well my bad, i like saving my money. with the thousand dollars that your about to spend on a 360 and a ps3 i can pay for one semester of college. something that matters a whole lot to me then you obviously. so my bad dude that i cant spend all that time on games when im here with a fulltime job and doing 16 hours each semester. ill rather buy bigger toys later then small toys now ^-^
Sony isn't gonna fail and we all know it. The worst it can do is be the level of where the X-box was last gen. That ISN'T too bad if you ask me. The PS3 is selling pretty well overall since the price drops (both of them). Also it is in the red cause SONY makes money on the games, not on the consoles themselves. Does Sony have some ground to make up, yea it does, but I don't see it failing like the Dreamcast. Sony just needs more games, and it is getting them finally. Next year is Sony's big year.
i pretty much feel the same way about it. but at the same time, sony is take a major pay cut when it comes to its consoles and game developers are getting the effect of that too. cuz i mean with the ps3 your getting close to a thousand dollars worth of gadgetry into one console for about 500 bucks, so that in itself is a major setback for them. not only that but also the simple fact that it takes so long and its so diffucult for developers to make games for the system that just like stated before, your having companies that were once didicated to the playstation now switching over to the 360. i see sony having a big year but then still fluctuating between sales...so i see late 08 being sonys year, then itll go on another drought, then itll be big again, and then another drought and so on and so on. where as by that time, theres going to be an evem MORE selection of games on the 360.
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on December 12, 2007, 01:43:47 AM
Post by: Badalight on December 12, 2007, 08:56:15 PM
ps3 2008
That's so true.
It has at least 15 good exclusives coming out.
Like 50 in all, but 15 good ones.
The 360 isnt' gettign very many.
And the Wii is getting like 3...
lul >__<
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Post by: Russian Gestapo on December 31, 2007, 11:53:04 PM
It's still f*cking brilliant, and now I can look forward to MGS4, RE5, GTA4, and quite a few others.
I have no intention of buying an Xbox360 that will probably get the red ring of death in my poorly ventilated cabinet at all.
...but I an envious of Wii owners for the next Smash Bros, but the current market demand putting the Wii's price up has put me off buying one completely.
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on December 31, 2007, 11:55:14 PM
I have a 40GB PS3 hooked up to a standard PAL TV with no internet access.
It's still f*cking brilliant, and now I can look forward to MGS4, RE5, GTA4, and quite a few others.
I have no intention of buying an Xbox360 that will probably get the red ring of death in my poorly ventilated cabinet at all.
...but I an envious of Wii owners for the next Smash Bros, but the current market demand putting the Wii's price up has put me off buying one completely.
That's because all of the Wii consoles are going to China.
Post by: Gigan X3 on January 01, 2008, 12:37:49 AM
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That's because all of the Wii consoles are going to China.
I don't think anyone from china will buy a Nintendo Wii when they can buy a Chintendo Vii. :D
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on January 01, 2008, 12:42:18 AM
QuoteThat's because all of the Wii consoles are going to China.
I don't think anyone from china will buy a Nintendo Wii when they can buy a Chintendo Vii. :D
lol, they're not buying that either.
Post by: Russian Gestapo on January 01, 2008, 12:43:26 AM
QuoteThat's because all of the Wii consoles are going to China.
I don't think anyone from china will buy a Nintendo Wii when they can buy a Chintendo Vii. :D
Racial slurs? This forum? Nah! :D
Post by: Gigan X3 on January 01, 2008, 12:45:48 AM
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Racial slurs? This forum? Nah!
Haha! Just coping what was said in another forum. No Bad intentions here. :D
Post by: eternal on January 01, 2008, 12:50:54 AM
why:halo 3,also download episodes and movies over Live