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Title: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on November 22, 2007, 10:36:29 AM
Thanks to all the sprite work done by xboy, we've been able to complete Human Torch. Give him a test run an let us know what you think. I think we've caught all of the bugs but feel free to report any you may find.

Happy Thanksgiving!

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2899/humantorchtd1.png)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tsy33s
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: TomBewley on November 22, 2007, 10:40:41 AM
Looking great Acey. Downloading and testing him out now.  :w00t:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Deathzarus on November 22, 2007, 11:07:30 AM
pretty solid characters  :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: desgrav on November 22, 2007, 11:12:13 AM
Awesome release Acey. You work really fast and release solid characters. ^:)^
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: KPT25 on November 22, 2007, 11:16:30 AM
OMG!! :o
That was really unexpected...congrats on the release,i`ll test johnny as fast as possible... ^:)^
 >:-(-| Are those lifebars going to be the ones for the full game or just your private lifebars?
EDIT:does he come with the contest winner stage?


Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Crabnek on November 22, 2007, 11:22:33 AM
>:-(-| Are those lifebars going to be the ones for the full game or just your private lifebars?
Yes, those are the project lifebars.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Lightblackheart on November 22, 2007, 11:47:10 AM
you rock acey!!  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
 XD||
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Diek Stiekem on November 22, 2007, 11:59:13 AM
Pleasant suprise...

DLing now,feedback later
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on November 22, 2007, 12:02:41 PM
1) yes those are the project lifebars

2) I ment to pack in Dead X's stage but I had forgotten. When I go through and re-release all my released characters, each one will come with a stage. (This will happen post project)

3) 4 supers, two of which can be done in the air and 2 hypers which both can be done in the air... that's pretty balanced if you ask me... But hey, every character could use another few hypers :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on November 22, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
Acey! This Is Awesome! downloading right now.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: That Mugen Guy on November 22, 2007, 12:05:24 PM
OMG!! :o
That was really unexpected...congrats on the release,i`ll test johnny as fast as possible... ^:)^



took the words right outta my mouth
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Diek Stiekem on November 22, 2007, 12:11:28 PM
Fast feedback (indepth one coming later)

- no throw?

- Staying true to the character, this guy could use filght (ala Magneto) and an air dash
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on November 22, 2007, 12:23:21 PM
Fast feedback (indepth one coming later)

- no throw?

- Staying true to the character, this guy could use filght (ala Magneto) and an air dash
You could always give him FlowerGirl/Necromancers' Broly flight code.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: aa250 on November 22, 2007, 12:33:48 PM
Thank you for an awesome release Acey and happy Thankgiving :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: desgrav on November 22, 2007, 12:39:02 PM
My only problem is that he doesn't have a block sprite.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: alex87 on November 22, 2007, 12:46:12 PM
very nice, thank u so much ^^
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: dragolink1 on November 22, 2007, 12:51:23 PM
Nice!
Downloading..i give my oppinion later  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: giammo84 on November 22, 2007, 12:55:54 PM
I can't dowload...it's strange, but anyway tnx so much for the fantastic release! ^:)^
Ok I have downloaded him...it's amazing!!tnx! =D>
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on November 22, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
very fun character, but there are definitely a few things he needs to make him feel more solid and polished.

- walking forward and backward sprites. this should be easy, just have him use what he has now, but leaning a bit forward or backward as he moves. kind of like what storm did in marvel vs capcom.

-his jumping sprites look kind of weak. maybe redraw them a tad.

-his backdash should make a whooshing noise like his front dash does.

-he should leave some flame after effects as he moves around. this would really make him look like hes on fire. kind of like how pyron does it in darkstalkers. his jump would definitely benefit from this, as would some of his attacks. definitely his dashes.

-he needs a throw. maybe something like he had in rise of the imperfects or ultimate alliance where he hugged you, flew offscreen, and came back down, slapping you headfirst?

-he needs an animation for his taunt. if you don't give him that, at least make him not hop in his stance when you press the button for it.

-he needs a blocking sprite.

-though I'm not a big fan of characters having MVC styled flying, if one guy could benefit from it, it would be him. He also definitely needs air dashes, maybe even 8 way so he could MVC triangle jump like storm, magneto, and iron man.

all the above criticism aside, this guy is fun and a welcome addition to my roster. thanks for the hard work and effort, thanks for the character. I can definitely see this guy shaping up to be one of those crazy combo characters. given some work.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on November 22, 2007, 02:00:38 PM
I'll look into the "8 way flying" you suggested.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: KPT25 on November 22, 2007, 02:23:59 PM
Yeah...it`s a pretty good idea for the youngest Storm brother...
BTW,besides the debug flood that i got while testing him,i noticed that his flamethrower hyper does too much damage...check it out...
(http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/35586/2006161624395291392_rs.jpg)
342 points of damage out of 1000:that would mean that the hyper is too powerful for a level one i guess...

Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 22, 2007, 02:42:08 PM
Thanks to all the sprite work done by xboy, we've been able to complete Human Torch. Give him a test run an let us know what you think. I think we've caught all of the bugs but feel free to report any you may find.

Happy Thanksgiving!

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2899/humantorchtd1.png)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tsy33s

fantastic! x-boy's BRILLIANT sprites with your BRILLIANT programming makes for one dynamite character!  I've downloaded it, and I'll get to checking it out shortly

and a happy thanksgiving to you too, ma'am
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: TGM on November 22, 2007, 03:39:04 PM
Outstanding for the both of you made human torch a better char.... Nice work  =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>  :) :) :) :) :)  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Epic Win Man on November 22, 2007, 04:15:24 PM
NICE! I didn't see this one coming
feedback after testing  :)

I really like this character, it goes well with the thing, but flying does seem necessary
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 22, 2007, 04:17:21 PM
the only real bug I can find right now, is when using the taunt, it freezes the character temporarily..that is about it for now
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: celobateira on November 22, 2007, 04:18:41 PM
Uau I wasn't expecting this too

Downloading right now

Congratulations ;)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on November 22, 2007, 04:38:57 PM
yes thank you very much.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Spectre on November 22, 2007, 04:49:38 PM
thanks acey for another awesome character

all i can say is that i agree his nova blast hyper might be a tad too strong and also that he could use a flying mode like iron man,magneto etc but hes still pretty damn cool without it
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 22, 2007, 05:15:38 PM
Great character but to tell you the truth right now he is a punch taker or a "chata" in my country.

1. There is a bug with him when you are doing an air combo som of the fire stucks in the upper part of the stage.

2. Also I would like to see a flight mode and an air dash for this guy.

3. Also some moving forward or backwards would be nice.

4. Some AI improvements.

5. The fireball supper, the one with the kicks starts like if there is no tommorow, it should had a pause like the firebeam super.

6. The fire trail after he moves would be Awsome too.

7. Also, I think he needs more special moves, IDK maybe an antiair move like the shoryuken of ryu and another super would be good also.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Mugen Toons on November 22, 2007, 06:02:42 PM
Great Work  =D>
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on November 22, 2007, 06:11:41 PM
Acey , you rule !!!!! This has made it a great Thanxgiving for me !  :thumbsup:

Happy Thanxgiving everyone !

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/hobsrippingsuit2.gif)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Alexziq on November 22, 2007, 06:24:51 PM
You made my day too, its a great beta. I suspected youd have something out for today. No criticism, I suspect you know what you want to improve already, and we appreciate you sharing him so soon!!!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Captain Cold on November 22, 2007, 06:43:36 PM
you rock acey!!  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
 XD||


i agree nice release thanks again ill check him out  :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Gabbard on November 22, 2007, 06:51:41 PM
 ^:)^
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: juelz aka wolfi on November 22, 2007, 09:19:57 PM
damn that was quick acey
thanks for the release i read the other comments
jus wondering if there is gona be updates
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on November 22, 2007, 09:24:29 PM
He seems really tall to me, most of his light punch goes over most people I have MVC so I have to use crouch to start a combo. At first I thought the cns x,y was altered, but that's how he stands at x=1,y=1. As for what everybody else is saying about "missing anims" I'm gonna assume you wanted us to get a feel for and a tease at what's to come. Still a good job, can't wait for the full release.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Crabnek on November 22, 2007, 09:32:30 PM
Awesome character Acey!

It seems like eeverybody got alot of his bugs, and I agree with the others.
Flying like Magneto / Green Goblin (or the flyng code everybody suggested) will greatly increase how accurate he is to the actual comic char, plus leaving some flames that disappear after a few seconds behind him after he moves might also look cool, ala Inferno in Soul Calibur 2, and some sounds could be made a bit louder.

Besides that, I'm in love with this guy!
Extremely well done!
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Draco on November 22, 2007, 10:00:45 PM
A very nice surprise!  @-)
thanks Acey   :P
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 22, 2007, 10:47:23 PM
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that's why people need to go freakin EASY....on the emoticons...just one...or a couple are fine, people...really
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Darkgargos on November 22, 2007, 11:12:27 PM
Wow! I didn't notice that Acey released Human Torch. Thank you and congratulations for another great character Acey  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Error Macro on November 22, 2007, 11:18:10 PM
^:)^


that's why people need to go freakin EASY....on the emoticons...just one...or a couple are fine, people...really
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: warner on November 22, 2007, 11:29:37 PM
YEEEEEESSSSH! i'm waiting for this char.  :o
Thanks for release it.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 22, 2007, 11:31:20 PM
YEEEEEESSSSH! i'm waiting for this char.  :o
Thanks for release it.

sweet huh? I put it next to the thing! Torch & Thing FTW! ;D
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 23, 2007, 12:45:32 AM
Ok another thing, Isnt the 4 on his chest supposed to be a 4 and not a twisted 4 when he gets on the other side?

Also Ive noticed that some of the special moves dont have a sound to match it, or is it me?
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 23, 2007, 12:51:54 AM
Ok another thing, Isnt the 4 on his chest supposed to be a 4 and not a twisted 4 when he gets on the other side?


I think it's impossible to avoid

I too have a question - what're the buttons to do this attack?

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4338/torchoy0.gif)

I've only done it about 2-3 times and hell if I know what buttons to press to do it  /:)  :-w
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 23, 2007, 01:11:50 AM
Ok another thing, Isnt the 4 on his chest supposed to be a 4 and not a twisted 4 when he gets on the other side?


I think it's impossible to avoid

I too have a question - what're the buttons to do this attack?

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4338/torchoy0.gif)

I've only done it about 2-3 times and hell if I know what buttons to press to do it  /:)  :-w

Well not impossible but it will take really too much time and after all it's no big deal, and the move you said is ~F,D,DF,x or y o z, thou I changed to something easier cuz for some reason its not detecting that movement.

Also when I said that the fireball hyper was starting like if there was no tomorrow, well it does only in air, when done on the floor its working ok but in the air it gets a bit crazy!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Galactusface on November 23, 2007, 01:15:52 AM
Great character!  A little bit of tinkering would make him top notch!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on November 23, 2007, 01:39:56 AM
the fact that this forum has a poster named "galactusface" makes me giggle.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 23, 2007, 01:41:20 AM
 >:-(-| here but, that's not the only funky as hell name around here...
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on November 23, 2007, 01:43:55 AM
 >:-(-|

would you believe it if I told you that someone at mugen infantry actually refused to answer one of my questions because of my username? the best part? I'M ACTUALLY JEWISH!

but yes, let's stay on topic now. my bad.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 23, 2007, 01:46:47 AM
>:-(-| here but, that's not the only funky as hell name around here...

Um... you are welcome Sgt Hartsock...!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 23, 2007, 01:47:36 AM
wanted to let folks know I made a regular sized small portrait for the torch, if you're interested (http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1518/torchsmallxm2.gif)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: malisiousjoe on November 23, 2007, 01:47:52 AM
Nice Thanksgiving giving gift  =D>!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 23, 2007, 01:49:28 AM
Well ok Sgt Hartsock it as nothing to tell you how to do the movement, anytime  ;D jeeez!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 23, 2007, 01:49:55 AM
>:-(-| here but, that's not the only funky as hell name around here...

Um... you are welcome Sgt Hartsock...!

well my name is from an established WWII FPS series called "Brothers in Arms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_in_Arms:_Road_to_Hill_30)", thanks.


anyway, onward & upward
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on November 23, 2007, 01:50:40 AM
you know, I never even saw his small portrait, as I am using one of those select screens with so many damn boxes that the portraits are tiny dots.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 23, 2007, 01:56:32 AM
you know, I never even saw his small portrait, as I am using one of those select screens with so many damn boxes that the portraits are tiny dots.


funny!  ;*)) boatload of characters eh? anyway, you folks might want to take a stab at using the GIF I created there for his small portrait I cut out
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 23, 2007, 01:56:37 AM
Well my name is from myself  :) :thumbsup: :w00t:.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Weapon x program on November 23, 2007, 02:56:47 AM
 XD|| i m glad you give life to human torch, congratulations. :-$
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Erikson on November 23, 2007, 03:12:02 AM
Looking great as always, good job, Acey  :) i'll test him somwhere this week, if i get time to play and will post feedback.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: BLue BoMBeR on November 23, 2007, 03:13:02 AM
what the!? i didnt know he's been released!?
great ACEY! :thumbsup: :w00t:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Igniz on November 23, 2007, 04:13:00 AM
Great character indeed. It's fun to play with and against him, and has a nice set of moves. The biggest issue I've found, besides those already noted, is that his graphics (especially the shade) doesn't look to VS-ish to me (just compare him to Juggy, Magneto or any other VS. char to see what I'm talkin' about).

Nice char overall :).
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Munk on November 23, 2007, 05:48:15 AM
Woah..kewl!DLing it now,,cnt wait to test it! :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: P-Chan on November 23, 2007, 06:40:44 AM
Woooah, thanks for this & thanks for your other Marvel Chars  >:(
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: ralf_sparrow on November 23, 2007, 11:34:10 AM
Congratulations for your Human Torch  =D> God Bless you and Good Luck with your projects. Bye  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Legendary Warrior Riptor on November 23, 2007, 11:44:55 AM
I think Human Torch appears in a good time! We needed more of these original Chars ^-^ Thumps Up Soldier! ^-^

Great Char Man!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Crabnek on November 23, 2007, 12:42:33 PM
>:-(-| here but, that's not the only funky as hell name around here...
:|
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: jellyfish on November 23, 2007, 03:57:09 PM
Wow its an great char,
congratulation for you great work ;)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: axelay69 on November 23, 2007, 04:10:27 PM
 :o Is no good chars he is GREAD Chars  :thumbsup: Good Work
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: MaverickZr0 on November 23, 2007, 05:34:42 PM
Any flame that he throws I think you should seperate from the sprite, Like when he shoots a flame in the air diagonally, and when he fires his hyper. His flames don't look like they move fast enough.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: dragonesku on November 23, 2007, 07:43:45 PM
He looks like fun Acey. I'm going to try him out as soon as I can.  :w00t:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on November 24, 2007, 12:54:47 PM
his air hyper spinny thing need to be fixed, there no superpause in it. it only happens after he has already done the move.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: iliketoplaymugen on November 24, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
Cool character, looks great.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 24, 2007, 03:56:13 PM
his air hyper spinny thing need to be fixed, there no superpause in it. it only happens after he has already done the move.

Um, I already said that... >:(
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on November 24, 2007, 04:05:31 PM
his air hyper spinny thing need to be fixed, there no superpause in it. it only happens after he has already done the move.

Um, I already said that... >:(
Um,  i dont care.
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/Themes/default/images/warnwarn.gif) Then a days worth of warning for disrespect is called for. Dishiz, some of the younger users will need time to get used to the system.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sasuke-kun on November 24, 2007, 05:19:17 PM
Easy there you two... /:)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: MaverickZr0 on November 24, 2007, 05:51:49 PM
Maybe you should also use some of Captain Commando's fire for extra effects.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 24, 2007, 06:18:02 PM
his air hyper spinny thing need to be fixed, there no superpause in it. it only happens after he has already done the move.

Um, I already said that... >:(
Um,  i dont care.

And do you think I care a bit at what you care or not? I didnt said it for you to care stupid, for me you can just die now and the world would be happier. In fact I said it cuz you are making pointless posts of something that has already been said, Go get a life and dont get me started :rulez:
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/Themes/default/images/warnwarn.gif) I don't care who started the fight. You are above this.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 24, 2007, 06:22:59 PM
moving on.....


for those of you who use the Marvel Super Heroes screenpack, like I do, I've made a portrait for him to use

(http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5431/torch2ty1.gif)

admittedly..he may be a little big, so adjust accordingly
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on November 24, 2007, 06:34:56 PM
his air hyper spinny thing need to be fixed, there no superpause in it. it only happens after he has already done the move.

Um, I already said that... >:(
Um,  i dont care.

And do you think I care a bit at what you care or not? I didnt said it for you to care stupid, for me you can just die now and the world would be happier. In fact I said it cuz you are making pointless posts of something that has already been said, Go get a life and dont get me started :rulez:
srsly whats your face, go outside and do something.

acey: great char just fix some stuff up.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Lightblackheart on November 24, 2007, 06:42:01 PM
guys.......
                                CALM DOWN!!!!


BACK ON TOPIC:nice portrait hartsock  =D> =D>
i gonna add that one to my personal edit
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 24, 2007, 07:27:30 PM
his air hyper spinny thing need to be fixed, there no superpause in it. it only happens after he has already done the move.

Um, I already said that... >:(
Um,  i dont care.

And do you think I care a bit at what you care or not? I didnt said it for you to care stupid, for me you can just die now and the world would be happier. In fact I said it cuz you are making pointless posts of something that has already been said, Go get a life and dont get me started :rulez:
srsly whats your face, go outside and do something.

whats-his-name needs take their own advice and quit thier off-topic yammerin'....now take it from Stan Lee, kids..

(http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7548/stanls3.png)



because the bickering sure as hell isn't needed....


topic is about the new release of the human torch last I checked, and I'm planning a video soon, once I can get my stuff together

nice portrait hartsock  =D> =D>
i gonna add that one to my personal edit

thanks, I appreciate that, it was the only good portrait I could find..the rest were too far from the character, in a matter of speaking  ;*))
Title: Human Torch..
Post by: Lord Vader on November 26, 2007, 09:05:01 PM
Since the other topic was closed...

I like the character a lot. I mean heck it's the only Human Torch that's been made for Mugen so far. However I think three things could be improved. One is the portrait. It doesn't look too well and it could be a close up pic of his upper body. The other thing I have a problem with is his walking animation, or lack of if I might say. He should have some type of walking mechanism instead of just "floating." Also, I don't know if it's just my eyes but some of the sprites seem a little choppy and they could be cleaned up to Cacpom standards. Otherwise I think the rest of the character is great. Keep up the good work.  ;)
Title: Re: Human Torch..
Post by: Savage Henry on November 26, 2007, 09:49:32 PM
I agree to everything. But remember, ITS JUST A BETA.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sasuke-kun on November 26, 2007, 10:28:48 PM
OK...

Topic unlocked...

I hope I won't see anymore people fighting here.
Title: Re: Human Torch..
Post by: Bob Dobbs on November 26, 2007, 11:53:40 PM
I agree to everything. But remember, ITS JUST A BETA.

And a very awesome beta at that... shows much promise. I can't wait for the whole project.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: estriker on November 27, 2007, 07:03:47 PM
YES get some nice catch.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: joybeba6679 on November 27, 2007, 07:16:29 PM
Ja! and I though it was another release of it and had been fixed, ah well...

PS: Relax, no more fighting, at least from my part that is  :) :w00t:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: That Mugen Guy on November 27, 2007, 07:46:23 PM
OK...

Topic unlocked...

I hope I won't see anymore people fighting here.

hey just mute em if they start again that will get the job done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: MaverickZr0 on November 27, 2007, 08:02:39 PM
Time for real feedback from me.

- I feel that he should have more sounds, like in all of his states maybe? Because I imagine if you stand by him you'd hear a flame going. Also whenever he attacks you should hear a flame "whoosh" (don't know what to call it but I think you know what I mean).

- His Light punch takes a few tries to hit most characters like Ryu, Hayato, Captain Commando. Perhaps his Red Clns box should be made a little bigger.

- It feels like he chains too slow, and it's hard to connect a Light Punch to go onto lk,mp,mk,hp etc...

- Like I said, some of his animations should be sped up like the flames, and when ever he throws fire or something, they should be seperate from the Human Torch.

-Like Lord Vader said some of his Animations are a bit choppy, but that's mainly because of the sprites being made that way.

-Lastly, perhaps you should add different types of flames like Captain Commano's to make it look more "Capcom-ish".

Anyway, Those are things I think could be better. Still a great character, I understand it's a Beta. Good Job Acey!  :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on November 27, 2007, 08:36:22 PM
Great suggestions everyone. This version was actually intended to be a final release (obviously there are some bugs to fix) but as many have stated, there is always more to do.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Lord Vader on November 27, 2007, 11:17:41 PM
I'd also like to point out that he looks VERY Capcom-ish in his normal form without the flames on when the match starts. However when he "Flame On" 's, it doesn't look completely Capcom-ish. I think the flames around him and his face could be fixed up in his flame form to make him look more like a Capcom character.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: FilthyKadaver on November 28, 2007, 01:05:30 AM
He's a great character Acey, but the look reminds me of Cinder.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Megabyte on November 28, 2007, 11:24:47 AM
Hey, I have an idea (but it may be a little too late for it :|) Actually I have three ideas or rather suggestions on the whole non-VS look of HT:

1. Use the whole pal select thing and make him use the flames in alternate pals. That way you can still use the very VS looking non-flame version of HT and the 'Flame On!' ver.

2. Have his 'Flame On!' and actual mode per-say...alot like how Sakura could use a stock of her hypers to go Dark Sakura...I've seen only a few chars that can change this way (Orochi Chris comes to mind) so it would simply be a matter of making the changedstate (I guess) be the sprites for his 'Flame On!' version.

3. Since Johnny doesn't HAVE to go FULL 'Flame On!' to use his fire abilities, why not have him partially flamed (like maybe the hands and forearms and the feet and calves only)...in this case he would STILL be able to use all of his fire attacks and still look VS-styled. This is what they did for MUA (Marvel Ultimate Alliance); IIRC his main (read: default) costume was him in his normal form and when he used certain attacks he would go 'Flame On!' mode temporarily...he also has his "Flame On!' mode as an actual attack so that he stays flamed for a certain duration of time.

Speaking of which, that would be a good source of inspiration for some more moves for Torchy (since peeps keep suggestion it...and I kinda agree on that one :-") This is just my suggestions though.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sabaki on November 28, 2007, 11:31:28 AM
Everyone's forgetting that Acey didn't make the sprites for Human Torch, but X-Boy did. Acey only got permission to use the sprites as they were provided and to code him into a character. True, he does need some touch up here and there, but I don't think Acey can do that unless X-Boy gives the OK for the sprites to be edited.

Acey, think it's possible to ask X-Boy?

Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: duffstuff129 on November 28, 2007, 07:07:12 PM
>:-(-| Are those lifebars going to be the ones for the full game or just your private lifebars?
Yes, those are the project lifebars.

Yay! those are nice lifebars!

And great character btw  ;D!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: vyn on November 28, 2007, 08:25:05 PM
human torch is nominated for char of the month at infantry, so whoever is a member there go vote, more fans is always good  ;D
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on November 28, 2007, 08:51:19 PM
Wow, better let X-boy know too... funny how Arthur was overlooked and Human Torch was picked up.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: RiceZilla on November 28, 2007, 08:57:33 PM
Arthur is kind of unknown and underrated. :-??

Everyone Knows Human Torch..well maybe not everyone buti think you get what i mean.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on November 28, 2007, 09:04:20 PM
Thanks, I can FINALLY Make Dr. Doom "Feel the Burn!!!!!!!!!!"  :w00t:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 30, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
OK...

Topic unlocked...

I hope I won't see anymore people fighting here.


ya, let's talk about how badasss the sprites are & stuff

also, sound design - was the dialog from "marvel ultimate alliance" yet again? :P
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Jessica Smoke on November 30, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
DOwnloading..looks nice...

ehr..no throw? I will check it..
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 30, 2007, 04:42:45 PM
nope, no throw unfortunately...got a nice air attack assortment though to compensate

human torch is nominated for char of the month at infantry, so whoever is a member there go vote, more fans is always good  ;D

so that means Infantry is back up eh? good to know

..remember, ITS JUST A BETA.

not quite right...

This version was actually intended to be a final release (obviously there are some bugs to fix) but as many have stated, there is always more to do.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on November 30, 2007, 11:08:54 PM
character of the month indeed.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on November 30, 2007, 11:54:14 PM
hell ya, you kidding? this great! ;D
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: therain on December 01, 2007, 12:08:19 AM
 downloaded and he is very impressive this is one of the chars I've been waiting to come on mugen and i amvery pleased with the results good work acey :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Gaijin on December 01, 2007, 01:34:13 AM
definitely keep the trap fire special because it is the perfect strategic move. it reminds me of blankas electric move but more creative obviously. im liking where this character is headed. i hope that you make this character as unique and different as possible because though i have yet release any creations yet this char has extremely awesome potential to be something fierce in the future. but hmmm i wonder how he will compare in comparision to iceman...nuff said cuz that to me is an awesome thought
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 01, 2007, 03:43:49 AM
I don't think there will be TOO many changes, save bug fixes...so don't expect anything drastic
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: scarletspider5 on December 01, 2007, 10:49:16 AM
nice character acey :thumbsup: XBOY nice sprites.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: fatalfreak on December 02, 2007, 05:01:34 AM
Recently, I downloaded and saw the character.  Great Work! 
Especially I like his hyper.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Spo1982 on December 03, 2007, 10:47:28 AM
U Made Human Torch he is my Fav. Marvel Char Thank u Thank u  ^:)^ i will be trying him soon!!!!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 03, 2007, 03:35:59 PM
U Made Human Torch he is my Fav. Marvel Char Thank u Thank u  ^:)^ i will be trying him soon!!!!

x-boy did the sprites...acey programmed it


anyway, I posted a vid with the torch over at the "Show & Tell (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=7072.0)" section
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: street_shark on December 04, 2007, 11:03:50 AM
links down :(
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 04, 2007, 02:29:34 PM
why didn't you download it sooner?
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 04, 2007, 03:09:08 PM
Anyone, feel free to reup this for me until I can get it posted on the main site. With our rush toward the deadline I am spending all of my time in Paint Shop, Fighter Factory and testing.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 04, 2007, 03:17:12 PM
I'm on it

http://www.sendspace.com/file/eb3xz2

 XD||
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 04, 2007, 04:32:22 PM
Anyone, feel free to reup this for me until I can get it posted on the main site. With our rush toward the deadline I am spending all of my time in Paint Shop, Fighter Factory and testing.

and forums
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 04, 2007, 08:47:40 PM
Well, of course the forum. We're all in the together after all.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 05, 2007, 11:18:43 PM
just poking fun out of boredom, ma'am.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Darkmanx_429 on December 06, 2007, 06:19:07 AM
I like the intro's and moves and such. I just think it needs alot more animation for the flames.  He's looking less "Torch" and more Cinder from KI.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 06, 2007, 12:56:05 PM
well talk to x-boy about that one  :D
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: naroglausic on December 07, 2007, 12:15:30 PM
Thanks acey... this char looks great.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 07, 2007, 03:36:27 PM
dude..xboy did the sprites...did you not catch that?  :-w
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 07, 2007, 04:10:19 PM
x box?
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: The Anvil on December 07, 2007, 04:22:45 PM
lackof body movement in his stance, crouch and jump etc
it seems very very weird
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 07, 2007, 04:29:41 PM
x box?

modified my post  :D

lackof body movement in his stance, crouch and jump etc
it seems very very weird

talk to xboy about it
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 07, 2007, 07:19:14 PM
Personally I think Xboy did a great job on the sprites, obviously nothing is better than more animations, more moves, more everything but seriously, this is a complete character and the first set of sprites Xboy ever did for mugen. I was proud to code it and personally think he looks great, not perfect, but truely great.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 07, 2007, 09:00:07 PM
Personally I think Xboy did a great job on the sprites, obviously nothing is better than more animations, more moves, more everything but seriously, this is a complete character and the first set of sprites Xboy ever did for mugen. I was proud to code it and personally think he looks great, not perfect, but truely great.

ya, you did a hell of a job in coding, & he did a hell of a job with the sprites...however, maybe you could contact him & ask him to come up with a small pack of em to add some more flare to the character, especially for when he's defeated - he needs to make it so the flame is extuinguished

please xboy, add a little more to the character here & there  [-O<
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 07, 2007, 09:39:12 PM
I'm just trying to find a post in the past month were Sgt wasn't telling people what he wants to see, or is setting someone straight...  ;)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 07, 2007, 09:40:34 PM
 :D oh come now :P
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 07, 2007, 09:49:02 PM
Xbox is constantly working on his sprites so we have that much going for us. Also, his sprites got nominated as char of the month at MI, I'm glad of the role I could play in that. No way it'll beat Vyn's Hayato or Sludge's Abyss.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on December 07, 2007, 09:53:45 PM
I like this character . Like Acey said any character can be better with more this , more that , & a little extra of this . But when do you draw the line ? You could make a character with 10000 different frames of animation . It would move amazing , but when would it ever be complete ?

It's seems like the new trend around here is to find things to bash creations . I'm pretty much tired of it . Everyone should be more appreciative of what they get . Nobody gets paid to do this , we all do it as a hobby . Someone took hours upon hours out of their life to make something for you all . You should be grateful even if it is the absolute worst creation ever . that person still used their valuable time to make something for you guys .

I know we are all used to a certain level of excellence with Acey , but she had nothing to do with making the sprites . Xboy was nice enough to let her & scruffy use them . Oh , & look who's actually got released !

Be thankful !

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/talbain-chr.gif)   
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 07, 2007, 10:16:29 PM
the sprites'll beat the abyss & that hayato character on originality & whatnot. Trust me, I'm thankful of his art ability & whatnot, just...in the back of my mind, I'm hopin' for a little update, just a small set of sprites to toss into the character...but if nothing else, I'll live, I have a lot of fun with the character, and I love doing the ground fire to create an encroaching fire, among other things :D that and the fact that I made a new big & small portrait for the torch, I'm happy with that  ;D

It's seems like the new trend around here is to find things to bash creations .

not with me, I just add little tidbits of possible improvement...you really think I'd bash somebody's hard work? I think not...
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 08, 2007, 01:04:43 AM
I appreciate the feedback
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 08, 2007, 01:06:58 AM
always happy to help
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on December 08, 2007, 03:31:22 AM
Xbox is constantly working on his sprites so we have that much going for us. Also, his sprites got nominated as char of the month at MI, I'm glad of the role I could play in that. No way it'll beat Vyn's Hayato or Sludge's Abyss.

My Xbox never sprites for me ? How did you get the Xbox to do that ? 

I'm sorry I just couldn't resist ! ;D

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/hobsrippingsuit2.gif)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 08, 2007, 03:37:31 AM
yes I know, she made the same typo I did strangely enough  :-j
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: wiineedmore on December 08, 2007, 08:54:25 AM
Thanks to all the sprite work done by xboy, we've been able to complete Human Torch. Give him a test run an let us know what you think. I think we've caught all of the bugs but feel free to report any you may find.

Happy Thanksgiving!

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2899/humantorchtd1.png)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tsy33s

Did Reuben Kee die? Sorry I'm new. and I just love his work.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 08, 2007, 10:27:58 AM
 >:-(-|
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 08, 2007, 03:28:14 PM
word.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Rabbitxpp on December 08, 2007, 10:07:41 PM
hey acey you think you will be doing the silversurfer using xboys sprites because i really think you should because you made this human torch rock using his sprites i am sure you can do the same with silversurfer and he will be a great addition to mvc eoh but this is just my opinion :)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sasuke-kun on December 08, 2007, 10:27:54 PM
Oh...
I wonder what kind of answer is she going to give... ;*))
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 08, 2007, 10:41:10 PM
hopefully her reply will have more punctuation than his question did.

Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 09, 2007, 01:47:18 AM
Well... I   won't be finishing Silver Surfer ;) unless anything changes.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 09, 2007, 01:54:51 AM
 >:-(-| side question - I believe seth zankuten is coding him, right? I think he was last I heard...problem is..I haven't heard from him in months...
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Megabyte on December 10, 2007, 07:58:00 PM
>:-(-| side question - I believe seth zankuten is coding him, right? I think he was last I heard...problem is..I haven't heard from him in months...

Yeah...seems like the WHOLE DvM crew have went on hiatus...wonder what they have up their sleeves?
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 10, 2007, 09:27:51 PM
maybe they're planning a surprise birthday party for somebody!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 10, 2007, 09:29:31 PM
...no...anyway..let's swing the discussion back to the torch
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 10, 2007, 09:32:10 PM
maybe it's a birthday for the torch!

I hope I'm invited.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 10, 2007, 09:34:19 PM
moving on..

one of the things I'd like to know is how much programming buyog did for it, he said on his site he was programming it for x-boy but that never came to fruition
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 10, 2007, 09:41:19 PM
Just reading this page from top to bottom makes me laugh. I hope I get invite to Torches B-day too, but I'm to busy making sure my Xbox keep on spriting. *whip*
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 10, 2007, 09:42:50 PM
ya, the conversation gets jumbled  :D


anyway, was buyog too busy I take it to program the torch? is that why you picked it up?
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: MaverickZr0 on December 10, 2007, 10:02:02 PM
Why not ask Buyog? since this topic is about Acey's Human Torch and not Buyog's, this topic was also made for Feedback.
Acey probably made a Human Torch so he could be in EOH.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: cormano on December 10, 2007, 10:12:12 PM
More a great job, Human Torch and The Thing we have already, only missing the Invisible Woman and Mr. Fantastic, which I think will be my next wip ...
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 10, 2007, 10:16:41 PM
Why not ask Buyog? since this topic is about Acey's Human Torch and not Buyog's, this topic was also made for Feedback.
Acey probably made a Human Torch so he could be in EOH.

yes I'm aware of that..just was hoping she'd know something about it
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 10, 2007, 10:40:56 PM
More a great job, Human Torch and The Thing we have already, only missing the Invisible Woman and Mr. Fantastic, which I think will be my next wip ...

Oh, Invisible Woman exists in mugen, she's in the background of every single EoH stage. See if you can spot her.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: KPT25 on December 10, 2007, 11:21:30 PM
Oh, Invisible Woman exists in mugen, she's in the background of every single EoH stage. See if you can spot her.
:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
In fact there was an Invisible Woman for mugen:1 sprite and nothing more lol :D
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Rabbitxpp on December 10, 2007, 11:26:22 PM
can we download the human torch stage seperately or do we have to wait for the release of the game really want to know 8)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 10, 2007, 11:53:05 PM
does he even have a stage??
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Rabbitxpp on December 11, 2007, 12:08:25 AM
yes contest winners stage acey stage for human torch acey had said we was suppose to get it with him but she forgot to put it so i was wondering if she was gonna let us download it seperately since she didnt put it with the human torch
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Acey on December 11, 2007, 12:11:18 AM
If I get a chance to upload it then you'll have it.  %%-
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: superakuma on December 11, 2007, 12:38:14 AM
invisible woman will be on her way soon.... :-$ shhhhhh
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: UltraRoboninja on December 11, 2007, 12:50:35 AM
invisible woman will be on her way soon.... :-$ shhhhhh
Yep! Here's a screenshot!













 ;*))
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: cormano on December 11, 2007, 07:57:43 AM
Oh, Invisible Woman exists in mugen, she's in the background of every single EoH stage. See if you can spot her.

:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
In fact there was an Invisible Woman for mugen:1 sprite and nothing more lol :D
:DxDie It will be complicated hehe
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: cormano on December 11, 2007, 08:00:13 AM
invisible woman will be on her way soon.... :-$ shhhhhh
I am trusting in you Superakuma  ;)
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Tenspeed on December 11, 2007, 11:42:33 PM
Just reading this page from top to bottom makes me laugh. I hope I get invite to Torches B-day too, but I'm to busy making sure my Xbox keep on spriting. *whip*
haha maybe if you can get the x box to learn spriting, you'll have time to get torch a gift!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on December 24, 2007, 03:44:28 PM
I've finally taught my Xbox to sprite for me , so I have time for Torch's birthday & time to type this post .  ;)

Anyway , speaking of Buyogg & Invisible Woman . Check out his site . I guess Sue Storm is one of his new WIPS .

Back to watching my Xbox sprite ....... :O*D

Have a Merry Christmas everyone !


 
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 24, 2007, 04:05:46 PM

..speaking of Buyogg & Invisible Woman . Check out his site . I guess Sue Storm is one of his new WIPS .



side note - thanks for info!


Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: ziafab on December 27, 2007, 03:55:42 AM
Arghhhh, i cant download it at work... : sendspace is locked by my proxy...  /:O

I have to wait tonight... :-??
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: cormano on December 27, 2007, 08:55:55 AM
Now only my Mr fantastic
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Bud Spencer on December 27, 2007, 09:11:46 PM
Fantastic
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: Sgt Hartsock on December 27, 2007, 09:12:43 PM
Now only my Mr fantastic

....what??
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on December 27, 2007, 09:16:30 PM
Now only my Mr fantastic

....what??
he means a char.
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: cormano on December 28, 2007, 12:38:45 PM
Now only my Mr fantastic

....what??
he means a char.
Correct!
Title: Re: Human Torch
Post by: jmike on January 13, 2008, 11:38:30 PM
Massive cool,
                awesome moves and killer specials...


Great job.
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