Post by: DEMONKAI on June 17, 2014, 12:13:37 AM
http://mynintendonews.com/2014/06/16/capcom-could-be-taken-over-if-shareholders-open-company/ (http://mynintendonews.com/2014/06/16/capcom-could-be-taken-over-if-shareholders-open-company/)
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 17, 2014, 01:04:32 AM
Speak your mind on it if you like....
http://mynintendonews.com/2014/06/16/capcom-could-be-taken-over-if-shareholders-open-company/ (http://mynintendonews.com/2014/06/16/capcom-could-be-taken-over-if-shareholders-open-company/)
I've been preaching this outcome since the cancellation of [insert unnamed title] three years ago. Nintendo holding the majority of shares and making Capcom a 2nd party company like Game Freak or HAL Labs would be the best thing to happen to both companies.
Post by: esn23 on June 17, 2014, 01:05:45 AM
Post by: ExeLord on June 17, 2014, 02:38:57 AM
Yeah, capcom should be bought, but whoever is better then nintendo in this case.
Sorry for being angry >:(
Post by: Trinitronity on June 17, 2014, 03:30:32 AM
Castlevania is on the Nintendo side as well, if I remember correctly.
And did Nintendo censor the new Castlevania games? NO!
Post by: ExeLord on June 17, 2014, 05:01:22 AM
Post by: esn23 on June 17, 2014, 05:10:09 AM
Post by: supa2520 on June 17, 2014, 06:32:19 AM
so if any company would buy capcom it should be.......namco or sony
Post by: ExeLord on June 17, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
Post by: Trinitronity on June 17, 2014, 07:55:24 AM
It's Konami's, not nintendo's - not owning, not doing anything they want with it, just giving platform to release on.Konami is about as much a part of Nintendo now like Sega is. Never knew that?
That's why Castlevania games are being only released on Nintendo consoles nowadays.
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 17, 2014, 09:01:45 AM
oh, wait...
Post by: ExeLord on June 17, 2014, 09:14:35 AM
...and no, I didn't complained if you pointed at me there, Big O :D
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 17, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
*expecting someone complaining about megaman and bla bla bla*
oh, wait...
Self manifest destiny much? I'm starting to think you miss the complaining.
But back on topic, imagine franchise power of Capcom properties with the quality control and supervision of Nintendo. Capcom games would be good again.
Imagine a Resident Evil game made by Retro Studios.
Imagine a Ghosts and Goblins made by Hal Labs.
Imagine a Pokemon: Monster Catcher.
Nintendo vs Capcom could FINALLY BE A THING!!
Post by: Trinitronity on June 17, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
errr, guys, when did nintendo bought Konami? It really happened and I missed it? /:O I remember Konami bought Hudson Soft in 2012, but Konami being bought itself by nintendo... That's madness I don't want to beleive remembering argues between those two about brutality of Konami's games \-/oKonami wasn't bought by Nintendo.
...and no, I didn't complained if you pointed at me there, Big O :D
Sega wasn't bought by Nintendo either, but Sega is STILL part of Nintendo.
Also, Game Freak and HAL Labs were never bought to begin with.
So yeah, a good scenario would be, if Capcom would become the same thing to Nintendo, what Sega is to Nintendo right now.
Post by: ExeLord on June 17, 2014, 10:08:43 AM
http://www.dorkly.com/post/62941/the-terrifying-afterlife-of-hr-giger (http://www.dorkly.com/post/62941/the-terrifying-afterlife-of-hr-giger)
Post by: Trinitronity on June 17, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
I bet that Nintendo will do better MegaMan games than Capcom does. :D
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 17, 2014, 10:44:22 AM
Why?There it is O, get him!!! lol
I bet that Nintendo will do better MegaMan games than Capcom does. :D
Konami wasn't bought by Nintendo.
Sega wasn't bought by Nintendo either, but Sega is STILL part of Nintendo.
Also, Game Freak and HAL Labs were never bought to begin with.
So yeah, a good scenario would be, if Capcom would become the same thing to Nintendo, what Sega is to Nintendo right now.
Both Konami and SEGA are third party developers: They make what they want for whatever agreements they make, be it cross-platform or console exclusive.
Example: SEGA made a 3-game Nintendo exclusive Sonic deal. (Lost world, the recent Olypmic game, and the upcoming BOOM series) but have already announced there are new games coming for PS4 and XB1 in the future.
Game Freak and Hal Labs however are second party, meeting 1 of 2 requirements:
1) They are contracted to develop an specific 1st party owned IP. Ex: Game Freak exclusive makes Pokemon for Nintendo
2) The company is majority share-holder owned by the 1st party. Ex: Both Hal Labs and Game Freak have close to 54% of the shares owned by Nintendo.
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 17, 2014, 10:50:21 AM
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Self manifest destiny much? I'm starting to think you miss the complaining.Baits...they are so easy to set up, lol.
I would love to see other company to buy Megaman rights just to terminate the serie for all and see all fans crying.
Yes, I like to see the world burning, hahaha
Post by: Trinitronity on June 17, 2014, 11:15:31 AM
I would love to see other company to buy Megaman rights just to terminate the serie for all and see all fans crying.I guess you also like to get probed...
Yes, I like to see the world burning, hahaha
...with cartridges of MegaMan Legends, of course. >:D
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 17, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
However, Nintendo putting the pressure on them to put out quality work would improve their titles significantly, stop them from just putting titles out and then fixing them later with patches because of a supposed deadline, hiding DLC on the disk, nonsense like that.
I think the good play would be to let Capcom continue their main franchise business as normal: Cross platform your main titles (Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Dead Rising, etc [I mean why not, you still get a cut of the cash cause you own it now]) but now you have the access to bring back titles from multiple franchise that people have been asking for but Capcom couldn't be bothered to make (Power Stone, Rival Schools, Breath of Fire PROPER [none of the IOS nonsense], Onimusha).
Of course certain IPs would become console exclusive, but it would be ones that make sense (Viewtiful Joe, Ace Attorney, Ghost and Goblins).
Then of course, your crossover games (Nintendo vs Capcom, Dante showing up in future Bayonetta games and vice versa [both made by Platinum!!], Zelda & Okami).
See, if I can come up with this, and this is just from a few minutes of thought, it doesn't sound so bad anymore does it?
The idea is that Nintendo takes chances, chances that no one else is willing to make anymore. Everyone else is so steeped into their sequel routines that it's all the same. But for every Mario, Zelda, MarioKart, Pokemon they make, there was some title they put a risk on: Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Sin & Punishment, Electroplankton, Professor Layton, Starfy, etc
They didn't always work out, but the point it they did try. I think Nintendo buying Capcom would mean that Nintendo would at least try to bring back some good stuff, and I mean new versions, not just re-issuing the same games we've already bought over and over again on eshops and VC.
Post by: Spidermew on June 17, 2014, 12:38:49 PM
hell no sony should buy them out Nintendo sucks all their systems are failures i think Nintendo should do what Sega did and just make games. Leave the systems to the big boys "P
(http://spidermew.infinitymugenteam.com/badandyoushouldfeelbad.jpg)
The only system of theirs that was a commercial failure was the Virtual Boy. Nintendo saved video games in the 80's with the NES and the Game Boy. Nintendo is one of the few game companies out there even trying to keep things fresh and innovative. Yeah they have problems with online services but they are the only company out there making dedicated video game consoles. Sony and Microsoft are not video game companies, and their consoles are just multi-media boxes that play a lot of games that come in lots of shades of brown and gray. Sony and Microsoft also don't have any legendary characters bound to them. They don't have a Link, or Samus, nor they a Star Fox, let alone someone as big world wide as Mario; Mario who has just as much if not more recognition then Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse.
Nintendo is the big boy here. L-)
Nintendo should by Capcom, if they did we would get a good new Mega Man game, that's for sure.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 17, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Post by: Spidermew on June 17, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
Nintendo may be good at making games, but honestly, they don't have the same types of games. How would games like Resident Evil or Devil May Cry look when made by Nintendo? Their girls didn't even have sex appeal until Bayonetta becoming exclusive and Hyrule Warriors being made, so how would a foul-mouthed character Dante be? And also, I don't want all of Capcom's games to become Wii U + 3DS exclusive, I'd like to have a Wii U, but, for now, I'm more than satisfied with my PS3.
It is both sad and dumb that women have to be sexy for anyone to be interested in their games. Women are not sex objects dude.
Also foul-mouthed characters are just a sign of a lazy writer.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 17, 2014, 03:17:29 PM
Nintendo owns Pokemon. Do they make it? No.
Nintendo owns Kirby. Do they make it? No.
So if Nintendo owned Capcom, would they make those games? No.
What they would do is stop Capcom from making crazy-@$$ business decisions and probably make games based on franchises that Capcom considers dead.
Post by: supa2520 on June 17, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
Capcom to be Bought Out? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiQstv78DmI#ws)
Post by: Trinitronity on June 17, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
Why does no one grasp the concept of "ownership /= development"?Damn right!
Nintendo owns Pokemon. Do they make it? No.
Nintendo owns Kirby. Do they make it? No.
So if Nintendo owned Capcom, would they make those games? No.
What they would do is stop Capcom from making crazy-@$$ business decisions and probably make games based on franchises that Capcom considers dead.
You got it straight to the point!
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 17, 2014, 04:35:53 PM
What if it goes down like THQ? The company stuck around, but their individual IPs were auctioned off.
What if Capcom's IP get split around the gamer-verse to whoever buys what they can get their hands on??
SONY buys Street Fighter, Microsoft buys Lost Planet, Nintendo buys Monster Hunter, etc....
WHAT IF THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS?!?!
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 17, 2014, 05:05:38 PM
It is both sad and dumb that women have to be sexy for anyone to be interested in their games. Women are not sex objects dude.I never said they were, but the usual representation of women (and a lot of men as well) is of a perfect and attractive body. Nintendo doesn't use this, due to their younger public, but Capcom has a lot of sex appeal, some of which shouldn't be removed.
Also foul-mouthed characters are just a sign of a lazy writer.No, it isn't.
Post by: Arkady on June 17, 2014, 05:36:32 PM
Also foul-mouthed characters are just a sign of a lazy writer.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6md4gT1uj1qgrhzdo1_500.gif)
THE ONLY OFFENSIVE WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS "TAXES"
IF ANYTHING ELSE IS ACCEPTABLE FOR SAILORS, ITS ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU!
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 17, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
the usual representation of women (and a lot of men as well) is of a perfect and attractive body. Nintendo doesn't use this, due to their younger publicZero Suit Samus
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 17, 2014, 08:02:49 PM
Zero Suit SamusYeah, but how many times Samus appeared in her Zero Suit after Metroid Zero Mission? From what I know, only in Brawl, and now in SSB Wii U.
Post by: DEMONKAI on June 17, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
However, Nintendo putting the pressure on them to put out quality work would improve their titles significantly, stop them from just putting titles out and then fixing them later with patches because of a supposed deadline, hiding DLC on the disk, nonsense like that.
^^ Very very good point there man....i agree with that
...OMG, I just thought of something...
What if it goes down like THQ? The company stuck around, but their individual IPs were auctioned off.
That right there could either be a nightmare for a franchise or a blessing for us...
Post by: -Whiplash- on June 18, 2014, 02:50:31 AM
so how would a foul-mouthed character Dante be?
The REAL Dante Doesn't say any swear words worse then "Damn" or "hell" Both words that I'm pretty sure were in F-zero and Metroid Before.
Post by: PR_1030 on June 18, 2014, 08:12:19 AM
Well, that's in the view of Capcom and it's games. But in terms of Nintendo's games, I guess it's possible for Capcom to develop some Nintendo published games as a 2nd party developer.
So overall, maybe a slight difference will be made...
Also, I feel disturbed by the statements of esn23. Most of Nintendo's systems were financial success. They only are having a little trouble now because of the Wii U (I'm pretty sure SSB4 of something else can help it out), but that's only because they are one of the only companies willing to take risks and start new things, which gives them a lot of respect (and sometimes money). They revived the video game industry with the NES while grossing tons of dollars. We can thank them for that. They revolutionized gaming industry with the N64 which provided an easier to code 64 bit game system other than the Atari Jaguar, while still grossing tons of money. They revolutionized again the gaming industry with an effective and easily playable motion gaming system, while still grossing bucks. So, I believe it is right to say that Nintendo does not suck, but it is the big boy (or grandpa) of the gaming industry.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 18, 2014, 09:24:35 AM
...I think G Lux stated that ownership is different from development. I agree to that, but does that mean that Capcom will still develop the games? If so, what difference will it make? Is Nintendo merely providing financial support, or will they have other 2nd party or 1st part developers lend a hand (is that possible?)?...
I'll condense one of my eariler comments.
Nintendo owning Capcom would give them the option to have exclusivity to their stuff, but I don't think that is what they would do. Rather, they would let Capcom continue "business as normal", cross-platforming the major franchises like Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Dead Rising, and the like.
Nintendo WOULD however take shots at revitalizing "dead" IPs that people have been asking for, maybe even contracting other 2nd Party Devs like Retro Studios, Platinum, HAL to do stuff with them. Like, contract Platinum for a Viewtiful Joe 3, Retro Studios for Ghouls, Ghosts "n' Goblins, have HAL bring back Power Stone, call Comcept of course to work on [insert franchise name], stuff like that.
Yeah, maybe even have Capcom do some of their games. They dev'd the two Zelda Oracle games.
Post by: Acey on June 18, 2014, 11:09:30 AM
Post by: Magma MK-II on June 18, 2014, 12:32:04 PM
Just take a look on main heroes - Ryu, Dante, X, Spencer, even Nilin at capcom's side and Mario, Link, Kirby, Bomberman at nintendo's
Bomberman has nothing to do with Nintendo, it belonged to Hudson, and since Konami bought them over it now belongs to Konami.
The idea is that Nintendo takes chances, chances that no one else is willing to make anymore. Everyone else is so steeped into their sequel routines that it's all the same. But for every Mario, Zelda, MarioKart, Pokemon they make, there was some title they put a risk on: Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Sin & Punishment, Electroplankton, Professor Layton, Starfy, etc
Sin & Punishment belongs to Treasure, and Professor Layton belongs to Level-5. Neither of them has anything to do with Nintendo.
Starfy is an established series with at least half a dozen games, so I don't see what's the risk there.
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 18, 2014, 12:38:46 PM
Post by: supa2520 on June 18, 2014, 01:10:41 PM
Post by: Trinitronity on June 18, 2014, 01:14:08 PM
I hope Marvel buys it. I have a strong fear of what Nintendo could do with Street Fighter, for example.What fear?
What could possibly go wrong?
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 18, 2014, 01:34:18 PM
What fear?
What could possibly go wrong?
Street Fighter is not Brawl.
Post by: Trinitronity on June 18, 2014, 01:49:52 PM
Street Fighter is not Brawl.And? I still don't see your point.
Post by: ExeLord on June 18, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 18, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
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And? I still don't see your point.Its self-explanatory. Street Fighter is not Brawl. Brawl is a fun game and such, but its not a "real" fighting game.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 18, 2014, 03:15:55 PM
Sin & Punishment belongs to Treasure, and Professor Layton belongs to Level-5. Neither of them has anything to do with Nintendo.In the spirit of getting things straight:
Starfy is an established series with at least half a dozen games, so I don't see what's the risk there.
Though Successor of the Skies is solely Treasure, the first Sin & Punishment was co-developed by Treasure & Nintendo R&D 1.
Starfy has 5 games, only one of which is localized outside of Japan, with a combined sales record across all five games of barely over 1 million units, and there hasn't been a new one in 5 years.
My point remains this: Nintendo takes risks other companies wouldn't even think to attempt. In fact, the only reason Successor of the Skies exists is because after seeing how well it did on Virtual Console (being the first time after it's release 7 years prior that anyone outside Japan could get it without port cartridges and systems), they took a chance on funding a sequel.
Post by: Trinitronity on June 18, 2014, 03:38:21 PM
Its self-explanatory. Street Fighter is not Brawl. Brawl is a fun game and such, but its not a "real" fighting game.And?
Do you want to imply that Nintendo cannot do "real" fighting games?
Because if that's the case, then you're talking some "real" bulls***.
EDIT: Wait, friggin censoring now? What the hell?
Post by: mon-el on June 18, 2014, 03:51:21 PM
Its self-explanatory. Street Fighter is not Brawl. Brawl is a fun game and such, but its not a "real" fighting game.
Lets not forget tatsunoko vs capcom, which was just like any marvel vs capcom game, and scored great reviews, and was released for Nintendo, so I think a new street fighter game for nintendo would turn out as such.
Personally I think it would be a great idea for Nintendo to buy Capcom, to help revitalize some of their games that need it and release games they're working on.
:cool
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 18, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
Also, I feel disturbed by the statements of esn23.He's probably just a Sony fanboy or something
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 18, 2014, 04:37:00 PM
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Do you want to imply that Nintendo cannot do "real" fighting games?We have that censoring since long time. Cussing is not welcome here. We are not that juvenile.
Because if that's the case, then you're talking some "real" bulls***.
EDIT: Wait, friggin censoring now? What the hell?
And yes, I am implying that. Give me a good example of a real fighting game done by Nintendo, please.
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Lets not forget tatsunoko vs capcom, which was just like any marvel vs capcom game, and scored great reviews, and was released for Nintendo, so I think a new street fighter game for nintendo would turn out as such.Wasn't made by Nintendo.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 18, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
Post by: O Ilusionista on June 18, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing Netherrealm taking Street Fighter and Darkstalkers.This could be cool
Post by: DEMONKAI on June 18, 2014, 11:12:46 PM
Post by: Trinitronity on June 19, 2014, 06:36:58 AM
We have that censoring since long time. Cussing is not welcome here. We are not that juvenile.I don't have to give an example, because judging a developer based on past work is stupid.
And yes, I am implying that. Give me a good example of a real fighting game done by Nintendo, please.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 19, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
...Give me a good example of a real fighting game done by Nintendo, please...
You right, no one can. Nintendo hasn't made one.
Neither has SONY.
Neither has Microsoft.
None of the Big 3 have made a fighting game. They've PUBLISHED plenty, but have not sat down and in-house (Nintendo R&D, SCE USA/JPN, or MS Games Studios) have made a fighter.
So, the logic of thought is fundamentally flawed from the beginning. Because fighting games are made by developers, not publishers.
Post by: Arkady on June 19, 2014, 11:24:52 AM
joy mech fighter and urban champion, both pretty lame in graphics
nothing for comparison, not even worth mentioning
I could see why that would put their hat in for a capcom sale
Post by: Trinitronity on June 19, 2014, 12:12:33 PM
Did some googling Nintendo has made two fighting gamesUrban Champion isn't a real fighting game either, but a watered down Smash Bros.
joy mech fighter and urban champion, both pretty lame in graphics
nothing for comparison, not even worth mentioning
I could see why that would put their hat in for a capcom sale
Also, how dare you insulting Joy Mech Fighter and its graphics. \-/o
Post by: DEMONKAI on June 21, 2014, 08:48:14 PM
So, the logic of thought is fundamentally flawed from the beginning. Because fighting games are made by developers, not publishers.
but then again in certain....and i do mean certain situations its not always like that. Capcom has in the past just played a role in Publishing and thats it. SF EX series (for example) was pretty cool and it was developed by Arika BUT it was published by Capcom....it depends on what company can strongly handle both....
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 21, 2014, 11:36:33 PM
Post by: DEMONKAI on June 22, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
If nintendo got a hold of SF i believe they would butcher and water it down...or make it a frenzy like smash bros haha
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 22, 2014, 01:19:03 AM
Yeah in that situation of course (with nintendo) theres a heavy chance they would screw up SF...Konami would have more of a shot at doing a decent fighting game than them lol
If nintendo got a hold of SF i believe they would butcher and water it down...or make it a frenzy like smash bros haha
Look, if Bayonetta and Xblade Cron X prove anything, it's that their more than capable of having more than just your archetypical content on their system. And again, ownership /= development.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 22, 2014, 01:24:06 AM
Yeah in that situation of course (with nintendo) theres a heavy chance they would screw up SF...Konami would have more of a shot at doing a decent fighting game than them lolThats why I hope that if Capcom loses everything, Netherrealm should get SF and DS. If Nintendo wants something, let them get Megaman and Ghouls'n'Ghosts.
If nintendo got a hold of SF i believe they would butcher and water it down...or make it a frenzy like smash bros haha
Look, if Bayonetta and Xblade Cron X prove anything, it's that their more than capable of having more than just your archetypical content on their system. And again, ownership /= development.Dunno about Xblade, but Bayonetta 2 is not being developed by Nintendo. I think they're just sponsoring it, because otherwise there wouldn't be a Bayonetta 2, and Nintendo also gets exclusivity.
Post by: Trinitronity on June 22, 2014, 02:00:40 AM
Thats why I hope that if Capcom loses everything, Netherrealm should get SF and DS. If Nintendo wants something, let them get Megaman and Ghouls'n'Ghosts.Wait, what about the other franchises?
What about Captain Commando, Son Son, Power Stone, Rival Schools, Star Gladiator, Bionic Commando, Resident Evil, Breath of Fire and the like. These games just cannot stop to exist, ya'know.
Post by: supa2520 on June 22, 2014, 10:28:36 AM
Wait, what about the other franchises?i say rockstar games should get the resident evil series since they make awesome games as for the others i say a split between namco and Microsoft & square enix for breath of fire
What about Captain Commando, Son Son, Power Stone, Rival Schools, Star Gladiator, Bionic Commando, Resident Evil, Breath of Fire and the like. These games just cannot stop to exist, ya'know.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 22, 2014, 11:58:41 AM
Dunno about Xblade, but Bayonetta 2 is not being developed by Nintendo. I think they're just sponsoring it, because otherwise there wouldn't be a Bayonetta 2, and Nintendo also gets exclusivity.
OMG, that's my freaking point. Just because Nintendo would known it DOES NOT MEANthat their going to make it. Developing and publishing are two different things. Nintendo would PUBLISH Street Fighter, Resident Evil, the big ones, not make them themselves.
Post by: -Whiplash- on June 22, 2014, 02:09:25 PM
People hear Nintendo they think "OMG they're gonna turn it into a kiddy game!" or something.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on June 22, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
G lux I don't know why you're even bothering at this point.
People hear Nintendo they think "OMG they're gonna turn it into a kiddy game!" or something.
Yeah, I forget this is the internet. Rational thought doesn't exist here.
Post by: LightFlare on June 22, 2014, 02:32:40 PM
Post by: DEMONKAI on June 22, 2014, 03:04:40 PM
i say rockstar games should get the resident evil series since they make awesome games
lol that could be interesting. A GTA huge open world Resident Evil game? It wouldnt be the same as the close quarters and solo type traditional RE games but it would fun dealing with all those ZOmbies :O*D...
But then again....I think Rock star would do better with Dead Rising series :thumbsup:
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on June 22, 2014, 08:13:34 PM
Post by: Rage on June 22, 2014, 09:10:57 PM
Why is Smash Bros not considered a fighting game? You fight people in it, like in all fighting games. Just because it doesn't force you to remember various button combos to pull off moves like SF or MK doesn't make it any less of a fighting game.Because Nintendo said so, they stated since its inception that it is a party game.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 22, 2014, 10:45:51 PM
Why is Smash Bros not considered a fighting game? You fight people in it, like in all fighting games. Just because it doesn't force you to remember various button combos to pull off moves like SF or MK doesn't make it any less of a fighting game.Then we can consider any game where you fight people a fighting game right? If we follow this logic, God of War, Devil May Cry, Dynasty Warriors, Zelda and many others like that are fighting games as well, right?
Post by: Arkady on June 23, 2014, 06:19:27 AM
like snk street fighter and mortal kombat,
god of war is more an adventure game same as tomb raider
Post by: Kriven on June 27, 2014, 10:03:11 PM
Whichever one of you said this dismissed Joy Mech Fight without playing it based on the limitations of the NES graphics card. Ridiculous.
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 27, 2014, 11:25:27 PM
Post by: Twinimage on June 28, 2014, 08:44:09 AM
If not and Nintendo were to buy Capcom, all of Capcom's fighting games could be developed by a different developer. For instance, Microsoft owns Rare's Killer Instinct IP, and had Double Helix Games develop the new KI game last year.
Also you have to consider the business aspect of the situation too. If say Nintendo bought out Capcom and developed the game as well, Nintendo could very well hire some of the Capcom developers that may be put out of work from Capcom being bought out. That's the saddest part of this situation, many people will likely be laid off from this.
Even if Nintendo bought out Capcom and then developed on their own without Capcom developers, wouldn't Nintendo have ownership of the Street Fighter system(s) Capcom developed for their games? I'm sure Nintendo could do fine with a fighting game IP.
Saying they wouldn't be able to make a good fighting game is kind of a slap in the face. I mean, look at their own IP's; Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. These are all considered well made, high caliber properties. Don't you think if they developed a Capcom property, they would give it the same treatment as their own?
On a side note, I think it would be really cool if the next Street Fighter game had the same visual style as Ni no Kuni. They could retain the obligatory 3D character models as all modern fighters have, but give it a 2D anime look thus the characters could look like in the Street Fighter Alpha anime movie. Not saying Level-5 and Studio Ghibli have to be involved, just saying I would totally dig that art style... Just saying... :P
Post by: Afterthought on June 29, 2014, 05:06:28 PM
If Nintendo or any company for that matter bought Capcom, wouldn't Capcom still exist, but then be under the Nintendo/Whoever umbrella? Like when Microsoft bought Rare. Rare still exists but they make games for Microsoft.
If not and Nintendo were to buy Capcom, all of Capcom's fighting games could be developed by a different developer. For instance, Microsoft owns Rare's Killer Instinct IP, and had Double Helix Games develop the new KI game last year.
Also you have to consider the business aspect of the situation too. If say Nintendo bought out Capcom and developed the game as well, Nintendo could very well hire some of the Capcom developers that may be put out of work from Capcom being bought out. That's the saddest part of this situation, many people will likely be laid off from this.
Even if Nintendo bought out Capcom and then developed on their own without Capcom developers, wouldn't Nintendo have ownership of the Street Fighter system(s) Capcom developed for their games? I'm sure Nintendo could do fine with a fighting game IP.
Saying they wouldn't be able to make a good fighting game is kind of a slap in the face. I mean, look at their own IP's; Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. These are all considered well made, high caliber properties. Don't you think if they developed a Capcom property, they would give it the same treatment as their own?
On a side note, I think it would be really cool if the next Street Fighter game had the same visual style as Ni no Kuni. They could retain the obligatory 3D character models as all modern fighters have, but give it a 2D anime look thus the characters could look like in the Street Fighter Alpha anime movie. Not saying Level-5 and Studio Ghibli have to be involved, just saying I would totally dig that art style... Just saying... :P
The most sense made in this topic.
Yeah, I forget this is the internet. Rational thought doesn't exist here.
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Honestly, I don't care what happens to Capcom's other properties, the only ones that interest me are Megaman and Street Fighter. If anyone deserves to DEVELOP Megaman games, it's Nintendo, they could do it some justice in my opinion. If not, as long as they PUBLISH it and the DEVELOPER does a good job, hey, new Megaman, am I right?
Now, with Street Fighter, I really like the older games anyway. Alpha is great, III is great. So whoever gets the rights to the series now would have to do a whole lot to impress me, because at this point I really don't care if new games get made. I do wanna see a new Darkstalkers though.
All the other properties I could care less about. Whoever makes them makes them. If no new games get made for whatever property, I'm not losing sleep over it.
Just give me new Megaman. Like, jeez.
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Post by: PR_1030 on June 30, 2014, 06:08:08 AM
A good revival of the classic Mega Man would be nice. It could be like "New Super Mario Bros.", only Mega Man would be revived. Same gameplay, new graphics, etc. "All-New Mega Man" for the Wii U...
Also, I would have to agree with Twinimage. Nintendo's major IPs have had a lot of effort put into them. Why not give them a chance with Street Fighter? I always thought of Street Fighter as a lighter-toned game (compared to Mortal Kombat, King of Fighters, Injustice, etc.), which is up Nintendo's alley.
Post by: Kriven on July 02, 2014, 04:02:11 AM
Nintendo would have some say in what is developed and what is published and how polished it should be, just as they did with RareWare and just as they do with HAL, Game Freak, and Intelligent Systems. Capcom is likely to keep their software development teams on staff and will continue utilizing those teams to develop the projects which they would show to their shareholders (in this instance, Nintendo and a few smaller voices). There is the possibility of other studios gaining access to Capcom properties through Nintendo, but all three parties would have to reach an agreement for this to happen (Nintendo would have to agree to develop the game, HAL [for example] would have to agree to develop the game, Capcom would have to agree to lease their intellectual property to HAL). Any one of those three parties are free to decline the offer, though such an instance is unlikely and has a high probability of being vetoed by the shareholders.
The most likely scenario is this one:
Capcom's internal teams would continue to develop their franchises in much the same way they always have, with pressures from Nintendo to maintain a high level of quality and to change their business practices. In particular, we would see much less locked disc content and dependence on DLC.
Capcom's releases would become Nintendo-exclusives. There is no realistic chance of Nintendo allowing a second-party developer to release a title on a competing service (prior contractual obligations notwithstanding).
Nintendo would most likely take over Capcom's Virtual Console distribution. Take that for what you will.
There would be a high chance of Wii U ports of current and last-generation Capcom games, such as RE5.
There would be a greater chance of Capcom characters appearing in Super Smash Bros. come the next iteration of the franchise.
There would be a mild chance of Capcom's contracts with other companies (such as Archie Comics) being allowed to expire.
There would be a slim chance of finally opening the floodgates of the Virtual Console, emulating competing consoles of past generations. By this I mean emulating the original PlayStation or Microsoft DOS to properly release Capcom's library.
There would be a high probability of Capcom having the opportunity to develop games in other Nintendo franchises. I fail to see this as a bad thing.
Just to clear up confusion on how exactly this would play out legally.
tl;dr: Capcom would still own their IPs, but Nintendo gets to tell them how to utilize them.