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Title: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 12, 2013, 08:40:30 PM
I'm officially announcing my WIP here at IMT.  This is my first character, so she won't be perfect, but I hope she can be a welcome addition to your collections.  Intensity has given me permission to use his base for this edit or update, or whatever you wanna call it.  ZVitor was also nice enough to lend me some code and Mazemerald gave me some sprites to use, but most of the new ones are my own. I could still use more help and resources, so if anyone has some Jubilee open source stuff they wouldn't mind me using, please contact me!  If you have any ideas as well, I'm open to listening.  Here is a video of the latest progress I've made with her.

Jubilee Edit Progress Video #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCJH1wjUIa4#)

NEWEST VIDEO
Jubilee Edit Progress #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELK4plvJUbM#)
Stuff I've done.

* The new hypers
* One new firework special attack.
* Re-sprited and updated some of her basics, though she still needs a medium crouching kick and all her aerials redone.
* New walk, jumps, and dashes.  Her forward run needs to be re-sprited.  I did them first, but I can do a bit better now.

I could use sprites and special move ideas.

Also, I'm not do any kind of Wondra or Vampire Jubilee stuff.  I'd like to keep her classic 90s.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 12, 2013, 08:46:47 PM
I'm an idiot and forgot to show the updated fireworks attack (fireball) in the 2nd video.
it's shown in the first here.
Jubilee Edit Progress #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0vpNPli3oM#)

But for the basic firework  I used the treach coat flapping animation that she has in the Hyper version of the 2nd video. It's just shorter. (If that makes sense. )
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 12, 2013, 09:41:07 PM
She is looking excellent, Chimoru, I told you she was worth releasing. But, why did you post in the portuguese section?
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: jeroSS on September 12, 2013, 10:17:57 PM
Amazing work!
I wait for release download!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 12, 2013, 11:10:21 PM
She is looking excellent, Chimoru, I told you she was worth releasing. But, why did you post in the portuguese section?

LOL!  I don't know!  Wasn't paying attention I guess... Can a mod move it?  oops?  I DID say that I was an idiot. :P lol
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Rage on September 12, 2013, 11:17:31 PM
LOL!  I don't know!  Wasn't paying attention I guess... Can a mod move it?  oops?  I DID say that I was an idiot. :P lol
MOVED

Nice work here. Finally a good Jubilation. Thank you
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Slayer on September 12, 2013, 11:34:10 PM
Beautiful work! :Terry
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 12, 2013, 11:37:45 PM
MOVED

Nice work here. Finally a good Jubilation. Thank you

Thank you RAGE!  I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 13, 2013, 03:27:43 AM
I'm impressed, she's looking great and fluid. My only nitpick would be that her glasses magically fall and raise in between animations for no reason. Beyond that little thing, she's really coming along well.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: warecus on September 13, 2013, 03:51:02 AM
with the bit about the glasses I agree, but I love everything else
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: RobiWanKen0bi on September 13, 2013, 05:31:53 AM
She's really awesome and I'm really looking forward to her! Keep up the great work!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on September 13, 2013, 07:57:26 AM
She looks amazing!!!! Good luck on her!!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 13, 2013, 08:59:44 AM
I'm impressed, she's looking great and fluid. My only nitpick would be that her glasses magically fall and raise in between animations for no reason. Beyond that little thing, she's really coming along well.

I'm working on that. When I resprite her old sprites, I usually raise them up.  I wanted to have her lower them only whenever she used her fireworks, but maybe I'll have it so that she only does it for hypers.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: warecus on September 13, 2013, 09:09:29 AM
I'm working on that. When I resprite her old sprites, I usually raise them up.  I wanted to have her lower them only whenever she used her fireworks, but maybe I'll have it so that she only does it for hypers.

 ^^(PM)^
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Alex89 on September 14, 2013, 12:26:44 PM
Nice progress. Good luck ;)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: MatreroG on September 14, 2013, 08:36:34 PM
Excellent rework!
I love the 90's X-men animated serie
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 17, 2013, 10:47:30 PM
Oh my god, spriting takes forever!
I've finally gotten all her standing and crouching moves done, I just have to redo her aerials and then fix up her special and hypers.

I did her Strong Crouch Kick tonight, what do you think?  I used Maki as a base.
(http://i.imgur.com/fzthpci.gif)

Also, thank you guys for your continued patience and support!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 17, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
Looking amazing, Chimoru!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Rage on September 17, 2013, 11:36:14 PM
Oh my god, spriting takes forever!
I've finally gotten all her standing and crouching moves done, I just have to redo her aerials and then fix up her special and hypers.

I did her Strong Crouch Kick tonight, what do you think?  I used Maki as a base.
(http://i.imgur.com/fzthpci.gif)

Also, thank you guys for your continued patience and support!
Thanks for bring this character to mugen.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on September 18, 2013, 12:21:01 AM
At least we'll have a proper Jubilee.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: O Ilusionista on September 18, 2013, 12:28:50 AM
I'm impressed, she's looking great and fluid.

Same here.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on September 18, 2013, 05:30:09 PM
I like the animation!! Well done!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Slayer on September 19, 2013, 02:41:34 AM
Pretty smooth, very exited with the progress also eager to finally get to play as my beloved Jubilee.
I would like to suggest a move, what about a sparkling grab where she puts her opponent into a dizzy state?
Just an idea.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: warecus on September 19, 2013, 04:59:42 AM
great :w00t:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: BP on September 19, 2013, 05:14:33 AM
finally a good jubilee for mugen
good luck! everything looks smooth

only thing i would suggest is to maybe have her glasses on? i remember her always putting them when some fight starts.. and looks cooler, not so childish and anime like too)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 19, 2013, 09:44:18 AM
Pretty smooth, very exited with the progress also eager to finally get to play as my beloved Jubilee.
I would like to suggest a move, what about a sparkling grab where she puts her opponent into a dizzy state?
Just an idea.

Thanks,  She will have attacks that do dizzy state stuff, I just dunno about a throw. We'll see.  The throw part is making me nervous.  I don't know how to do throws well, that's gonna take some work.  LOL

finally a good jubilee for mugen
good luck! everything looks smooth

only thing i would suggest is to maybe have her glasses on? i remember her always putting them when some fight starts.. and looks cooler, not so childish and anime like too)

I personally don't like the shades down all the time.  I think what's going to happen is I'm going to save that for hyper, intros, and winposes.  You know, special moments. That's just how I like it.

Thank you all for the support guys!  I guess the up side to me taking forever is that I'm learning new things as I go!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: warecus on September 19, 2013, 11:34:55 AM
use maybe r mika for throws
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: B-5 on September 27, 2013, 04:15:55 PM
I love this. My only nit-pick is that I think you should use Capcom's palette as the default. It just looks better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 27, 2013, 07:21:39 PM
I'm not crazy about that one personally, but Arkady offered to help me with palettes, so one might still be there.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 27, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Anything outside of a smart pal (if she has one at all) is nothing to worry about at all. Once the character is out you'll be able to put any mix of colors you want on her. Keep up he awesome work, Chimoru.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Arkady on September 27, 2013, 09:51:49 PM

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2425/s4zi.png)
i said I'd help with putting the sprites in some allignent in colors, so that a few of these costumes above, can be made, and her 90s Tas cartoon costume is there, it shouldn't be going anywhere
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Twinimage on September 28, 2013, 12:20:48 AM
Hey I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. This has a lot of potential. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on September 29, 2013, 08:49:37 PM
Slowly but surely,I'm making headway with her.  I got her aerial punches done and next I'll do her kicks, but's here's what I did for the Jumping Heavy Punch.

I like Intensity's old idea of the flash attack, but I updated it.
(http://i.imgur.com/4cvKPyf.gif)
The flash had multicolors and a ring aura too, so I took a quick screencap to show you.
(http://i.imgur.com/gEHrdk3.png)

Tell me what you think!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Macaulyn97 on September 29, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
Looking very good!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on September 30, 2013, 11:19:51 AM
It looks pretty good!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: isela on October 03, 2013, 02:44:55 PM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/417/nj0v.png)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 03, 2013, 04:49:48 PM
 >:-(-| wow isela robin is a wip?
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 03, 2013, 06:09:40 PM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/417/nj0v.png)

I like these Robin sprites, but why are they here?
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Arkady on October 03, 2013, 08:09:35 PM
isn't it obvious?  to make jubilee do that move using those sprites,
that would be the ONLY reason that that's here, RIGHT? [-X
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 03, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
isn't it obvious?  to make jubilee do that move using those sprites,
that would be the ONLY reason that that's here, RIGHT? [-X

LOL She'd be pretty buff if I did that!

Besides.  I have most of her basics done except for her aerial kicks, which I'm working on now.
(http://i.imgur.com/uobl1iU.gif)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Xfields on October 04, 2013, 09:00:47 AM
Great... If you wnant the stuff i hve done i would love to suport you!!!!!

Love your work
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 04, 2013, 09:04:01 AM
Great... If you wnant the stuff i hve done i would love to suport you!!!!!

Love your work

REALLY?  That would be fantastic!  With Intensity and ZVitor already supporting me as well, maybe I should say it's more of a Team Jubilee release and not just a Chimoru one!  I would appreciate anything to help!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 04, 2013, 09:19:04 AM
Very nice kick Chimoru!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Xfields on October 04, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
Im out of practice these days, but i really wanted to release jubi
Do you have fbook?maybe we can brainstorm a lil while i send you the stuff me and thx did together
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 04, 2013, 11:24:21 AM
Thats sounds awesome!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Twinimage on October 04, 2013, 01:18:35 PM
This WIP is sounding better and better. :)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Arkady on October 04, 2013, 04:07:39 PM
Yes team jubilee, IS A GO!!!!!
the only issue i know of is the colors that's gonna be a major pain to consolidate for the palletes, but I'm hoping that won't really take too much time, the rest of chimoru's work seems really class act stuff
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 04, 2013, 08:16:37 PM
Yes team jubilee, IS A GO!!!!!
the only issue i know of is the colors that's gonna be a major pain to consolidate for the palletes, but I'm hoping that won't really take too much time, the rest of chimoru's work seems really class act stuff

And I THANK YOU for that.  I wouldn't know the first thing,  Your help is most appreciated!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: daraku on October 05, 2013, 12:01:34 PM
wow great with the Xfields sprites it will be an excellent release, and i can't wait for her  :o
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Megabyte on October 05, 2013, 06:34:04 PM
Hmmm...I'm no good at spriting NOR coding, but I'm willing to help in maybe giving you a heads up on what her official Marvel bio says if it'll help with moves and whatnot (sadly I have the X-Men encyclopedia from 2005 I think so it's a little outdated >.< )
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 06, 2013, 09:54:25 PM
Hey guys!  Update!  Is it a huge one?  No, but still significant.

Lets see, what did I do since?

- Finished spriting a few more basics. Crouching stuff is done, and I only have 2 more aerial kicks to do.

- I tweaked the FX on her hypers, and while I DO have animations on them, they are very basic and need updating.

- I added a "roman candle" attack.  I guess that's kinda what it is.  You can't really tell, but I learned how to do "trails on projectiles" and "randomizing"  So I took the firework projectile I made, turned it into a helper spark, made it burst from the ground and fire a projectile.  The projectile does a random firework explosion spark on impact and also a random whitle noise when it launches from the ground.  I wanted each attack to not look and sound exactly the same every time.  When it misses, it stays as a light ball.  I tried to time them to do different things.  Light attack knocks them straight up with one blast.  Medium repels them away with 2, and Heavy pulls them closer with 3.  Xfields helped me with the wonderful sprites in the animation.  I feel bad that I kinda had to make his look less pretty in order to match mine. :( The difference was too jarring before that.

(http://i.imgur.com/yZLkIKd.png)
Before ----------> After

Anyway, here's the video:
Jubilee Edit Progress #3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELK4plvJUbM#)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 06, 2013, 10:21:08 PM
SIMPLY AMAZING!!! ITS LOOKING SO PERFECT!!!

oh, by the way:
- The hyper in 1:37 is taking too much damage
- The hyper in 1:43 looks like it takes fine damage, but it should connect a little more
- The hyper in 2:08 's damage could be reduced a little too
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 06, 2013, 10:24:17 PM
SIMPLY AMAZING!!! ITS LOOKING SO PERFECT!!!

oh, by the way:
- The hyper in 1:37 is taking too much damage
- The hyper in 1:43 looks like it takes fine damage, but it should connect a little more
- The hyper in 2:08 's damage could be reduced a little too

I know!  I'm having a little trouble with that.  I'm not the best at damage balancing (AKA I have no idea what I'm doing)

It all has to do with proximity to the target.  They all vary vastly and I can't figure out how to average it out more.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Arkady on October 06, 2013, 10:44:17 PM
i loved it , barr one issue her sound rip of her saying "fire-works" really suits a hyper
something like "bang" would be better for her quick special projectiles
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: metamutant on October 06, 2013, 10:51:58 PM
Those effects are awesome, just the way I remember Jubilee from the 90s Xmen. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 06, 2013, 11:00:26 PM
i loved it , barr one issue her sound rip of her saying "fire-works" really suits a hyper
something like "bang" would be better for her quick special projectiles

Agreed.  It can get annoying. I haven't really been working on that move as much as the others.  The simple fact that her sunglasses still come down for it is a sign.  I want her glasses to only be for hypers, So I still have to resprite the normal firework animation.  When I do that, I'll fix the sound too.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: .Batzarro. on October 06, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Awesome job so far. Loving the effects and everything seems real suiting so far. Interested to see in what other ways you'll be using her powers.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Rage on October 06, 2013, 11:46:37 PM
Im just in awe. Its good to see my favorite x-man finally being done right after all these years.

 >:-(-|

Okay after seeing the fx here and going  =P~ I want to know where people are getting these high rez fx and projectiles! They after freaking awesome and I feel like the kid that wasn't picked at recess. Lol
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 07, 2013, 12:18:37 AM
Im just in awe. Its good to see my favorite x-man finally being done right after all these years.

 >:-(-|

Okay after seeing the fx here and going  =P~ I want to know where people are getting these high rez fx and projectiles! They after freaking awesome and I feel like the kid that wasn't picked at recess. Lol

Thanks!  Those fireworks are from a "KOF Stadium at night" stage.  I realize the hitsparks are kinda big.  There isn't a way to resize that, is there?
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 07, 2013, 12:50:50 AM
Nice video!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: DreamBrother on October 07, 2013, 07:27:42 AM
Thanks!  Those fireworks are from a "KOF Stadium at night" stage.  I realize the hitsparks are kinda big.  There isn't a way to resize that, is there?

Absolutely ingenius! I was going to ask what your source was  =D>
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 07, 2013, 09:23:20 AM
Awesome job so far. Loving the effects and everything seems real suiting so far. Interested to see in what other ways you'll be using her powers.

Thank you!  For my first character that I've had to do spriting for, I think I picked a hard one and I'm glad that people appreciate and like what I've done so far!  At first I thought her having a coat would hake spriting harder, and then finding ways to use her powers is tough.  Seems like all she ever did in the cartoon was the same move.  That's why I'm trying to look up different types of fireworks/plasma and seeing how it could be used in different ways.  Corny as it sounds, I also try to think:  "If I had the powers, how would I use them?"  LOL. Maybe I think a bit TOO much.

One thing about Intensity's Jubilee that I didn't like was that she seemed to just have different projectiles that kinda behaved the same.  I'm trying to make ones that act differently, but I'm also a newbie, so I have problems.  I learned new tricks for the "roman candle" attack and the "spinner" hyper and I think so far it's worked nicely. Thank you guys for the support!  I will try not to disappoint!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: warecus on October 07, 2013, 02:32:18 PM
I like the roman candle very original.


please keep going
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Rage on October 07, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
I like the roman candle very original.


please keep going
mortal kombat shang sung...... :-" just saying
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 07, 2013, 04:15:40 PM
Well if *I* didn't know that, do I get half a point?  :P
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on October 07, 2013, 05:32:15 PM
Very well done my comrade. Really liking some of those animations
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: isela on October 07, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1139/bcz.gif)
(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5571/zyuv.gif)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9779/aul.png)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1831/oug.gif)
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1651/sk7.gif)
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3818/3v9.gif)
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7320/n5pa.png)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8436/ybi0.gif)
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4430/dns.gif)
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5742/405.gif)

haber que te sirve de estos sprites ,
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Rage on October 07, 2013, 08:14:16 PM

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4430/dns.gif)


haber que te sirve de estos sprites ,
:o =P~ =D>
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 07, 2013, 08:17:12 PM
No, I haven't used all of them.  Who do they belong to? Do I need permission?
No, no lo he usado todos ellos. ¿A quién pertenecen? ¿Necesito permiso?

I have some that XFields gave me, but I need to make them like the others.
XFields me dio un poco, pero tengo que volver a hacer ellos.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 07, 2013, 08:22:19 PM
I have what Intensity, and Mazemerald, and Xfields gave me.  I tried to contact Anvil, but got no reply.  I don't want to use sprites without permission, though I'm not sure whose is whose.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on October 07, 2013, 08:23:19 PM
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4430/dns.gif)
Incredible!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 07, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Incredible!
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4430/dns.gif)

I think that's XFields's.  Right?  It looks like the others he gave me, but he didn't give me that one.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Twinimage on October 07, 2013, 11:16:40 PM
That stance is by THX, can't remember the whole username at the moment. That's a better stance to use than the one you have now, IMO. But that's just me. The walk looks a little funny. The way her legs are positioned look separate from her the direction her torso is facing. But that's the only animation I think could really use some tweaking.

I like the special moves. They've got some variety there. I especially like how you linked that special with the waves of fireworks that knock the opponent in the air and jubilee can jump in the air and strike them again. Keep thinking of gameplay elements like that. If her gameplay is really done well, she will last longer.

She's making good progress. Keep working hard, it'll pay off in the end. :)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: dev. on October 08, 2013, 06:43:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/yZLkIKd.png)
Before ----------> After

Wait, why you removed the shading on her legs? That's not right. *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 08, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
Wait, why you removed the shading on her legs? That's not right. *Iceman ThumbsDown!*

I've explained this.  XFields gave me those 6-7 sprites for that attack.  They were beautiful.  TOO beautiful.  They had colors and shadings that didn't match the original sprite and the original palette, and all the ones I made modeled after them.  So I had a choice.  Downgrade 6-7 sprites to match the 300+ existing ones, or edit 300+ sprites to TRY to match the quality of these 6-7.  I have to standardize the sprites somehow, and it seems the shading was a victim in making everything fit. Some sprites will go up in quality, others will fall down.  It's unfortunate, but I'm not going to do all that work for such subtleties.  Not even sure if I can.  Still, I might do SOMETHING to upgrade them a bit.  So you can disagree, but that was my decision.  I'm not even sure with all these mixed sprites from different sources that I can even do other palettes.  Maybe if I had made everything from scratch and not done an edit? I don't know anything about these things.  I'm still new. I hope you can understand.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 08, 2013, 09:14:00 AM
That stance is by THX, can't remember the whole username at the moment. That's a better stance to use than the one you have now, IMO. But that's just me. The walk looks a little funny. The way her legs are positioned look separate from her the direction her torso is facing. But that's the only animation I think could really use some tweaking.

I might still have a bit of tweaking to do on the walk, that's true, but I modeled the legs after Sakura, so I don't think they can be TOO far off. maybe it's just the stiff upper half I should focus on.

Also, I can't use that stance.  I don't have permission and I'm not about to steal sprites.  So maybe I can tweak the one I have too if you think it needs it.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Rage on October 08, 2013, 10:21:00 AM
I've explained this.  XFields gave me those 6-7 sprites for that attack.  They were beautiful.  TOO beautiful.  They had colors and shadings that didn't match the original sprite and the original palette, and all the ones I made modeled after them.  So I had a choice.  Downgrade 6-7 sprites to match the 300+ existing ones, or edit 300+ sprites to TRY to match the quality of these 6-7.  I have to standardize the sprites somehow, and it seems the shading was a victim in making everything fit. Some sprites will go up in quality, others will fall down.  It's unfortunate, but I'm not going to do all that work for such subtleties.  Not even sure if I can.  Still, I might do SOMETHING to upgrade them a bit.  So you can disagree, but that was my decision.  I'm not even sure with all these mixed sprites from different sources that I can even do other palettes.  Maybe if I had made everything from scratch and not done an edit? I don't know anything about these things.  I'm still new. I hope you can understand.
^^(PM)^
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: ZVitor on October 08, 2013, 10:44:53 AM
i will talk with thx, im sure he will let you use it, and maybe he share some more sprites with you...
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: dev. on October 08, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
I've explained this.  XFields gave me those 6-7 sprites for that attack.  They were beautiful.  TOO beautiful.  They had colors and shadings that didn't match the original sprite and the original palette, and all the ones I made modeled after them.  So I had a choice.  Downgrade 6-7 sprites to match the 300+ existing ones, or edit 300+ sprites to TRY to match the quality of these 6-7.  I have to standardize the sprites somehow, and it seems the shading was a victim in making everything fit. Some sprites will go up in quality, others will fall down.  It's unfortunate, but I'm not going to do all that work for such subtleties.  Not even sure if I can.  Still, I might do SOMETHING to upgrade them a bit.  So you can disagree, but that was my decision.  I'm not even sure with all these mixed sprites from different sources that I can even do other palettes.  Maybe if I had made everything from scratch and not done an edit? I don't know anything about these things.  I'm still new. I hope you can understand.
  I understand now. I had to do this choice, too.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Arkady on October 08, 2013, 12:22:07 PM
Yeah that stance is awesome, thx made black widows stance too, just makes the character a thousand times better, I'm sure he'll be good with it, but best to find out
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: thx1138 on October 08, 2013, 12:35:54 PM
I like the way you used the sprites, it was basically what I had in mind when Xfields asked me to work on it. About the stance, well, I gave it to Xfields for him to use it on his char, I guess it is up to him to decide if he want to give it to you.

In time, the char looks very good, nice base choices, the moves have harmony with the char. Good luck with it.  :)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Twinimage on October 08, 2013, 01:37:08 PM
I might still have a bit of tweaking to do on the walk, that's true, but I modeled the legs after Sakura, so I don't think they can be TOO far off. maybe it's just the stiff upper half I should focus on.

Yeah, focus on changing her torso. Have it facing the camera more.
Right now, the direction her legs in some frames look to be facing more away from her opponent, as where her torso always appears to be facing towards her opponent. Notice for Sakura, Sakura's torso is facing a different direction than Jubilee. Sakura's left shoulder (our right) is facing closer to the camera than Jubilee's. Sakura is a good base for Jubilee though.

Notice the difference the direction their shoulders are facing:
(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080211034206/streetfighter/images/6/6c/Sf-sakura.gif)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8436/ybi0.gif)

I think Sakura uses the same kind of pose for her torso when walking.

If you have another sprite/pose of Jubilee facing a similar direction as Sakura and looks good with the walk animation, I'd recommend you try using that torso instead. A lot of walk animations seem to use the same torso as the stance does. But that doesn't always work well. Hope you don't mind the constructive feedback. Walk animations are a pain to do, I've done several of them.
Best of luck with this. It's looking good!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 08, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
Very nice sprites Isela posted!!! I like that more and more people contribute in creating a decent Jubilee for mugen!!! Congrats to everybody!!  =D>
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Harbinger on October 08, 2013, 05:14:20 PM
Great work so far! Well done! That recent special is incredible, real nice idea!
Glad Xfields sent you what he had done, he had some fantastic sprites, I remember one winpose that really suited Jubilee. THX's stuff was also equally awesome, that stance is incredibly fluid, I hope you're able to adapt it to suit your sprites.

I assume your using her XMen Legends voice then?
As for different moves using fireworks....hmmmmm. How about a special to stun/dizzy the opponent? Her powerset is kinda limiting......
Maybe a defensive special, or evasive move, she launches a firework, whole screen flashes and Jubilee has moved. Kind of like a teleport I guess
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 09, 2013, 08:56:44 AM
Thank you guys for the support!  I will try to use what I can!  I might not have another update for a bit.  Real life issues, but I will try to keep working while ideas are still fresh in my head!  In the meantime, if you guys still have things to share, put them down here to help me remember! :P
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: alex87 on October 09, 2013, 05:07:48 PM
really good!!! Congrats :)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 21, 2013, 11:38:07 PM
Just a few new things

New Stance
(http://i.imgur.com/SwfMk27.gif)

New Walk (Backwards, but Forwards will look kinda similar when I'm done)
(http://i.imgur.com/Hp8rwtZ.gif)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 21, 2013, 11:57:00 PM
Very good!!!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 22, 2013, 06:33:17 AM
Awesomeeeeee!!!  :w00t:

Back walk is great too but i think her left arm movement needs a little more work!

I like how fluent your animations are!! Keep it up :0
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Arkady on October 22, 2013, 07:01:09 AM
Just a few new things

New Stance
(http://i.imgur.com/SwfMk27.gif)

New Walk (Backwards, but Forwards will look kinda similar when I'm done)
(http://i.imgur.com/Hp8rwtZ.gif)

looking real good :w00t:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 22, 2013, 09:38:19 AM
Awesomeeeeee!!!  :w00t:

Back walk is great too but i think her left arm movement needs a little more work!

I like how fluent your animations are!! Keep it up :0

Dang it!  I was hoping nobody would notice until I had a chance to fix it!  Nothing gets past you guys!  I can't take all the credit, these are sprite edits. I was just excited to show off something new and let you guys know that I'm back to work on her.  Thank you for the feedback tho!

Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 22, 2013, 04:49:34 PM
New Walk (Before)
(http://i.imgur.com/Hp8rwtZ.gif)

New Walk (Redone)
(http://i.imgur.com/6Q7sJ5d.gif)
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: dan_aracena on October 22, 2013, 07:06:51 PM
Amazing work dude ...

This is by far the most expected wip for me

amazing job!!!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: warecus on October 23, 2013, 08:01:35 AM
looking real good :w00t:


yep
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: alex87 on October 23, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
 :thumbsup: yeah! very very good!
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: NX-MEN on October 25, 2013, 10:20:02 AM
Much better!!! Keep it up!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Twinimage on October 25, 2013, 11:08:15 AM
Hey that new walk is looking terrific!

One constructive comment though. ;)
Were you planning to add more shading to the legs? Not saying it has to be super detailed, but right now her legs look more like they're outlined. I think that's called pillow shading? Are you familiar with that? I fall into that a lot of times myself. Boots could also use a bit more detail, like in her stance. Nothing super difficult. :P
You could actually use her stance as a guide on how you could apply more shading to her legs and boots.
Also, her left arm (our right) still looks a little twitchy??? Maybe it will look better in-game...

Other than that, her new walk looks amazing! Great job.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: dev. on October 25, 2013, 01:12:18 PM
Hey that new walk is looking terrific!

One constructive comment though. ;)
Were you planning to add more shading to the legs? Not saying it has to be super detailed, but right now her legs look more like they're outlined. I think that's called pillow shading? Are you familiar with that? I fall into that a lot of times myself. Boots could also use a bit more detail, like in her stance. Nothing super difficult. :P
You could actually use her stance as a guide on how you could apply more shading to her legs and boots.
Also, her left arm (our right) still looks a little twitchy??? Maybe it will look better in-game...

Other than that, her new walk looks amazing! Great job.

 ^^(PM)^ I told him the same; hope he will listen to you.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 25, 2013, 04:34:53 PM
Hey that new walk is looking terrific!

One constructive comment though. ;)
Were you planning to add more shading to the legs? Not saying it has to be super detailed, but right now her legs look more like they're outlined. I think that's called pillow shading? Are you familiar with that? I fall into that a lot of times myself. Boots could also use a bit more detail, like in her stance. Nothing super difficult. :P
You could actually use her stance as a guide on how you could apply more shading to her legs and boots.
Also, her left arm (our right) still looks a little twitchy??? Maybe it will look better in-game...

Other than that, her new walk looks amazing! Great job.

Oh I probably will.  It could use it.  I was just excited to show off some progress.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Twinimage on October 25, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
Oh I probably will.  It could use it.  I was just excited to show off some progress.

Oh I totally understand that. Nothing wrong with that. :)
It's good work man.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Slayer on October 25, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Looking forward to see a new video, she is getting better and better.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Macaulyn97 on October 25, 2013, 11:30:02 PM
I'd love to make one.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Slayer on October 26, 2013, 01:00:19 PM
Are you also re spriting the get hits?
They look the same as Intensity's on the videos shown.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on October 26, 2013, 03:10:24 PM
Are you also re spriting the get hits?
They look the same as Intensity's on the videos shown.

I haven't done them yet, but yes.  There is still a good amount of spriting I have to do.  The trouble with this is, I'm not much of a spriter.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: WizzyWhipitWonderful on October 26, 2013, 05:39:13 PM
Just take your time;

You know how you want it to look. Slow and steady wins the race.
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: ratmon on November 16, 2013, 11:42:40 AM
Amazing work you got on here this wip i :-"s the one I"m crazy for the most.  ~X(
Title: Re: Jubilee by Chimoru
Post by: Chimoru on November 23, 2013, 06:13:35 PM
I have bad news guys.  I know you guys have been looking forward to this release, but I think I have to cancel it.  All of my projects, actually. I didn't want to say anything before, but a few days ago my place was robbed.  Among the things they took, was my computer, and my external hard drive with my backups on it.  Jubilee is gone.  Zatanna is gone.  Everything MUGEN related that I had or made, is gone.  I feel stupid for not having it backed up online somewhere, but I didn't.  Right about now I'm so upset and frustrated about the idea of starting over, I'm not even sure I want to create right now.  I didn't say anything when it happened because I was holding out hope that I could get the work back somehow, but information I got today proved to me that it was not possible.

I think I just need a break.  I didn't think I'd be as upset as I am, but all of that was years of work.

I'll still be around to see what's up and maybe I'll even get my passion to create back, but right now I have none.

I'm sorry I disappointed you all.
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