Post by: bse24 on July 20, 2013, 05:03:53 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83754 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=83754)
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 20, 2013, 05:16:30 PM
Post by: bse24 on July 20, 2013, 05:27:40 PM
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Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 20, 2013, 05:57:46 PM
Post by: C.R.O.M. Zaxis on July 20, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
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Post by: eg6gsr on July 20, 2013, 07:39:26 PM
Ill be honest, I would have rather seen another Superman solo movie before this, but this is okay.
The next movie is going to be a solo movie for Supes but the new Batman is just going to make his first appearance in it so it will be awhile before this movie happens.
Post by: SideburnGuru on July 20, 2013, 09:08:58 PM
2. If that quote is to imply anything, even to the point of Batman winning in any sort of battle against Supes? I'm raging in the theater.
Frank Miller was always a biased Batman writer, we don't need to mention him in a movie that's suppose to give both characters an equal share.
Post by: CosmicToxin on July 20, 2013, 10:22:25 PM
Post by: Nestor on July 20, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
Frank Miller was always a biased Batman writer, we don't need to mention him in a movie that's suppose to give both characters an equal share.I guess that line was mentioned for hype only. I'm sure the people who knew where it came from got excited when they heard the complete phrase and were just expecting something (in this case, the logo) to show on screen.
Post by: trexrell44 on July 20, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
Post by: DEMONKAI on July 21, 2013, 12:49:44 AM
Then we got Avengers 2 Age of Ultron dropping in 2015? damn lol!
im thinking they were just gonna deal with THANOS.....
so i see why Vin desiel is gonna be in it....hes gotta be the VISION
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nevermind...i was told Thanos wont be in the sequel :(|)
Post by: bse24 on July 21, 2013, 12:58:02 AM
>:-(-|Yeah, Joss Whedon said he is saving Thanos for the big finale, so my guess is the next movie.
Then we got Avengers 2 Age of Ultron dropping in 2015? god damn lol!
im thinking they were just gonna deal with THANOS.....
so i see why Vin desiel is gonna be in it....hes gotta be the VISION
EDIT:
nevermind...i was told Thanos wont be in the sequel :(|)
Post by: PR_1030 on July 21, 2013, 08:52:09 AM
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Post by: SideburnGuru on July 22, 2013, 07:55:06 AM
I guess that line was mentioned for hype only. I'm sure the people who knew where it came from got excited when they heard the complete phrase and were just expecting something (in this case, the logo) to show on screen.That would make sense. However, I feel there's better quotes to use. Like, Batman talking GOOD to Clark, mentioning their friendship or something of the sort.
Also, to the people wondering about Thanos, think of it like this. Can't rush greatness. Thanos needs to have TONS of people against him. I'm actually really glad that they're saving him up for hte finale.
As for this? I'm glad, but I was honestly hoping for a Man Of Steel 2, before Superman Vs Batman.
Post by: PR_1030 on July 22, 2013, 08:50:39 AM
Post by: Twinimage on July 22, 2013, 08:50:01 PM
It's like 99.9% certain, the Dark Knight Trilogy and Christian Bale will not be part of the DC movie universe. Not trying to sound harsh, but we have to deal with it. There will be a new Batman and he'll be good too.
Blake Batman would never work. It must be Bruce Wayne.
With the logo having both Batman and Superman logo, it sounds like it will be a World's Finest movie. That would actually be a good title for the movie.
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Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 22, 2013, 09:49:50 PM
We all made the Jokes:
Injustice: Batman Among Us
Infinity Crisis feat. Batman
Batman & the Justice League
It's all they know how to do. To me, even "Flashpoint" was more Batman than freaking Flash.
And then Green Lantern's cartoon got cancelled for guess who... Beware the Batman.
Half of New 52's running comics are Batman or Batman family related.
I like Batman, but really, enough is enough.
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 22, 2013, 11:06:00 PM
Honestly, as hype as a Superman/Batman (I'm saying Superman first, deal.) is, the fact that Batman is already appearing in Superman's next movie just proves that DC doesn't know how to do a DC anything without Batman being involved.True but to be fair, seems like Marvel wh*red out Deadpool just as much most of the time. People still loved him and I gotta say I love seeing Batman around a lot.
We all made the Jokes:
Injustice: Batman Among Us
Infinity Crisis feat. Batman
Batman & the Justice League
It's all they know how to do. To me, even "Flashpoint" was more Batman than freaking Flash.
And then Green Lantern's cartoon got cancelled for guess who... Beware the Batman.
Half of New 52's running comics are Batman or Batman family related.
I like Batman, but really, enough is enough.
Post by: Superjoker on July 22, 2013, 11:13:29 PM
I remember seeing a poster of this movie in the movie I Am Legend... so it was 'annonced' a while back.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 23, 2013, 12:24:23 AM
True but to be fair, seems like Marvel wh*red out Deadpool just as much most of the time. People still loved him and I gotta say I love seeing Batman around a lot.I think the Bat-Milking started WAY before Deadpool got shoved into the spotlight. Plus Deadpool wasn't even that popular with the general audience until 2006-07-ish when Marvel Ultimate Alliance came out (many people I talk to say that game was their introduction to Deadpool).
Post by: -Whiplash- on July 23, 2013, 08:43:20 AM
True but to be fair, seems like Marvel wh*red out Deadpool just as much most of the time. People still loved him and I gotta say I love seeing Batman around a lot.
when marvel started shoving deadpool everywhere (starting around 2008) he started to suck. but this is mostly because writers that didn't know anything about the character started writing him. (like Daniel Way.) Batman doesn't have this problem most of the time.
Post by: trexrell44 on July 23, 2013, 10:59:19 AM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 23, 2013, 01:41:56 PM
If DC shoves batman everywhere forget dead pool let's talk about peter parker. He's been a member of xmen,avengers,fantastic four, ironman sidekick and a bunch of other teams not to mention many cartoon shows since the beggining of comic cartoons. About to be 4 movies. Let's not get on the bat while the spider is also in everything.
It's not even about that Trex.
Is Spider-Man always the one who saves the day or solves the problem, no. Batman is. Don't believe me, hop on Netflix and go back with the DCAU Justice League cartoon. The League would fail almost every episode without him.
Batman is a dude with no ACTUAL powers, and yet somehow he can beat everybody in the known DC universe. Spider-Man does not have such luxury.
It's about DC being a Batman one-trick-pony. Marvel doesn't need to rely solely on Spider-Man to sell their franchise. DC NEEDS Batman or they can't do squat, and THAT is what's getting old to me.
Again, not saying that I hate Batman, I'm quite the fan of Batman, but he has limits that no one wants to recognize anymore. They have him bench-pressing 1000 pounds now. REALLY?! A non-meta/non-mutant person benching that is impossible.
Post by: Twinimage on July 23, 2013, 01:49:37 PM
I think WB and DC want to do other characters, but I don't blame them for being hesitant, seeing how poorly their Green Lantern movie did.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 23, 2013, 02:04:47 PM
It's not even about that Trex.EXACTLY ^^(PM)^
Is Spider-Man always the one who saves the day or solves the problem, no. Batman is. Don't believe me, hop on Netflix and go back with the DCAU Justice League cartoon. The League would fail almost every episode with him.
Batman is a dude with no ACTUAL powers, and yet somehow he can beat everybody in the known DC universe. Spider-Man does not have such luxury.
It's about DC being a Batman one-trick-pony. Marvel doesn't need to rely solely on Spider-Man to sell their franchise. DC NEEDS Batman or they can't do squat, and THAT is what's getting old to me.
Again, not saying that I hate Batman, I'm quite the fan of Batman, but he has limits that no one wants to recognize anymore. They have him bench-pressing 1000 pounds now. REALLY?! A non-meta/non-mutant person benching that is impossible.
I think the only episode they managed to pull their own hides out of the fire without Bruce's guiding hand was in the second Amazo episode (forgot the name) where they're trying to protect Lex from Amazo's wrath.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on July 23, 2013, 02:40:07 PM
I agree too Glux. i am not his biggest fan but i rally for him sometimes. A lot of time i see him taking people that would just tear him to shreds but he ALWAYS has a way to beat even the most strongest and powerful of people in DC...and he a human. i give him respect for the skills but its gotten far past ridiculous .....benching a 1000 pounds....yeah right. there are strength athletes that are built much to the degree to TRY and get that kinda weight up and he isnt even in the physical shape to do it muscle wise. Then again... depends on how buff they wanna draw him . lol. but to do it at ease, not got some super strength, enhanced strength ... then nada.
Maybe its the suit...its either some magical /nanotech spandex or the new good strength enduced armor. lol :-??
Post by: trexrell44 on July 23, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
DC on the other hand or really jut begging to show of their roster. The only reason Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Flash are popular is because of their own individual series in one way or another. People barely know Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, or even Hawkman because of the small representation they have had.
But Batman and Superman are rather larger than life figures all by themselves. Someone once told me Marvel characters are better because they kill. Whenever someone tells me that or that Marvel is more adult. I know they have never picked up a comic. Bruce Wayne is the soul of the DC universe and is in place to show us that being human is being just as powerful as any other creature in vast universe. That humans have abilities and are able to achieve things at high levels. When I read Batman I am reading the capabilities and abilities human being could achieve and that's what I love out him. He does it make any excuse or accept any limitations. I can believe he can lift 1000 pounds why not it really not much compared to Bane or Killer Croc even has still has obstacles to overcome.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on July 23, 2013, 03:20:39 PM
I could never battle the Hulk, sentry, Luke Cage, Spiderman unless i have abilities that could have me hang toe with them. Power is the factor in marvel and in any comics.
Batman has no powers but can take folks triple his abilities as a human...thats what makes him so well famous. as you said, being able to do what he does as being a human makes him great , tho even if its highly impossible to do it. Tons of DC people can wipe the floor of Batman...they just always find him a way to overcome it. Overcoming Power.
Comics influence presents a dynamic of both fiction and facts. There are love interests , social issues, acceptance, racial issues ( humans vs mutants and such in marvel and humans vs powered beings in DC) and this is where Batman tho proves his side of the coin. He is a human being of martial art skills, plenty of toys to do various things and a good detective...so he is of his own but still he is just as overpowered in DC as Superman is written.
Oh and Batman has had more exposure than probably any character i have seen in over 30 years from ( other than Spiderman and superman), comics to movies and toons. I remember watching with so much anticipation when the old Batman show used to come on channel 17/29 back in the day. Robin to me made the show cause he was so funny. lol
Post by: PR_1030 on July 24, 2013, 05:30:33 AM
it was not because marvel characters killed people that made them betterI cringe in pain...
Also, I think it would be better if the Batman in this movie would have been Batman at least one or two years before the time period of the second movie, or at least have been doing superheroics longer than Clark.
Post by: SanjiSasuke on July 24, 2013, 09:40:21 AM
Is Spider-Man always the one who saves the day or solves the problem, no. Batman is. Don't believe me, hop on Netflix and go back with the DCAU Justice League cartoon. The League would fail almost every episode without him.
Not to say DCAU Batman isn't usually BatGod but admittedly he had a fairly limited role in Season 1 at least (re-watching them lately). It may also be that Bruce Timm has the names of Batman and Robin.
Post by: PR_1030 on July 26, 2013, 05:44:11 AM
Postscript:
You were joking when you said Marvel characters were better, right?
Post by: Twinimage on July 26, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
The movie has only just been announced. People will say it's going to be awful every step of the way. I don't understand why people do that though. I know we all want the movie to be awesome and faithful. We all have expectations in our mind of what we want to see. But there is NO reason to be worrying at this time... Except maybe that David Goyer is writing the script.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 26, 2013, 10:30:20 AM
But there is NO reason to be worrying at this time... Except maybe that David Goyer is writing the script.Well he's seems to do better with Batman than Superman; and knowing DC, they'll have this film focus more on Batman than Superman
So I don't see a big issue here
Post by: Twinimage on July 26, 2013, 11:35:32 AM
Notice how Goyer is only credited for the story of the DK and DKR, but the Nolan brothers wrote the script.
Not saying Goyer isn't able to hit it out of the park, but his track record shows us his script writing isn't as good as his creating stories.
It's only logical that we suspect that Batman will get the spotlight. And WB would be crazy not to. Their main priority is to make money and use what sells the most right now. That's why we're not seeing other DC heroes on film right now, unfortunately. :(
Again, it's still way too early to be worrying about anything with this movie. I just think it's cool they're finally giving what fans want, a live action Superman/Batman movie! I find if funny though that fans are worried about it now.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on July 26, 2013, 02:10:11 PM
>:-(-| for bit so i can address this . lol.
Postscript:
You were joking when you said Marvel characters were better, right?
Hey i swore i added a spoiler in here and text! and it got deleted? WTF or am i going crazy from my meds? /:O
but anyway, nahh bro i aint joking about that and thats only a personal statement pertaining to myself. But there are fans of both comics ( like me) that may like Marvel a bit more than Dc and vice versa.
on topic.,
yeah i cant say the movie will be bad. Time will tell when its released and i wont take any stupid critics thoughts on it either. I saw Man of Steel and i simply loved it! That was the Superman movie i wanted to see for a very long time. So a Batman/Superman movie BETTER be just as good.....or better! Batman and Superman should get same treatment and screen time. This turns into a Batman flick mostly or just a Superman flick with one or the other just being a guest star with a couple scenes then *Iceman ThumbsDown!*. I want to pay to see Batman and Superman...together. I wont pay for anything less than that. \-/o
lol
Post by: Twinimage on July 26, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on July 26, 2013, 02:35:49 PM
The way I see it, I want to see Clark's story continue, be he doesn't need a solo movie to be able to do that actually. So as long as they move Clark's character forward and don't stop everything to tell a superhero team up story, then I'll be totally cool that they added Batman to the mix. :)^^(PM)^ i can dig that right there. Depends tho on who is the main attraction at the start of the show. cause if both gonna get equal screen time then its gonna have to keep switching up between Clark time and Bruce time and then they have they B/S time....* just noticed what i did right there with that :D* .. which would be cool as to how they met up but we know Batman will figure out Clark is supes and Supes just look through his outfit to see its Bruce. Unless its got layer of lead in it then nada.lol but thing is too how much of a Clark story can we get out of this movie is the thing with 2 stars? :-?? cool idea tho bro.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 26, 2013, 03:27:56 PM
Again, it's still way too early to be worrying about anything with this movie. I just think it's cool they're finally giving what fans want, a live action Superman/Batman movie! I find if funny though that fans are worried about it now.Well people are just worried cause of how highly anticipated this is. I think it was more anticipated than an Avengers movie.
There's a lot of pressure put on WB and DC for doing this
Post by: Twinimage on July 26, 2013, 04:12:09 PM
@HyperSonic: Yes, hype and anticipation can be a really scary thing. They've got their work cut out for them. One really good thing though is, we have Snyder set to direct at this point. He knows what the fans want to see. Not saying it'll be the greatest, but better than a director who's not familiar with these properties at all.
Post by: Superjoker on July 27, 2013, 05:45:17 AM
this could make or break it
Post by: C.R.O.M. Zaxis on July 28, 2013, 01:43:29 PM
Wayne Industries helps support the rebuilding of Metropolis much like what would happen in the real world after a terrorist attack or natural disaster. Bruce Wayne has been Batman for maybe 2-3 years, and isn't really that famous (Think "real-life superhero" Phoenix Jones). He tracks down this "Superhero" and discovers his secret identity due to Supes' semi-sloppy job compared to Bruce. He goes on a "business trip" to Metropolis and takes an interview with local news reporter Clark Kent about Wayne Enterprises work with the rebuild. He then learns all he needs to know without Clark noticing. He later tracks down Clark to the Fortress of Solitude, and confronts Supes as Batman about the damage he caused and the sloppy job of protecting the greater good. Superman is angered about these accusations of failure and that a simple man can learn all this about him. He (using his X-ray vision on his mask) discovers Batman's identity.
That's all I have so far.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 28, 2013, 03:38:38 PM
everyone noted how bats logo is the old 60's one right???I think that's just a coincidence.
this could make or break it
Though if they DO bring in Adam West to reprise his role as Batman, then WB already has my money :Terry
Post by: PR_1030 on July 29, 2013, 05:58:00 AM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on July 29, 2013, 11:53:13 AM
Um, Adam West is 84... Batman flips off buildings, does kung-fu, and beats thugs to a pulp with his bare fists.I guess obvious joke was not so obvious
Post by: Superjoker on July 30, 2013, 08:33:16 AM
Adam West will definitely make a cameo but.
:O*D
Post by: PR_1030 on July 30, 2013, 10:16:48 AM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on July 30, 2013, 10:36:47 AM
Post by: PR_1030 on August 06, 2013, 05:32:01 AM
Post by: Superjoker on August 06, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
They won't do that, I believe it will be the "Robin" char from DKR as Bats... Bale is a fool! eventually a DC vs Marvel xover will be made, then... Adam West will return!!
Post by: bse24 on August 06, 2013, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: eg6gsr on August 16, 2013, 01:02:30 AM
They offer Bale 50 MILLION DOLLARS to return as Batman for this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is ridiculous. Yes Bale was a great Batman but having to pay him that would take away a lot of money that could go to the actual movie.
Haven't read the full artical yet so don't know if he is even going to do it but I think it's crazy they made that offer
Post by: PR_1030 on August 16, 2013, 01:45:09 AM
Post by: navs41 on August 16, 2013, 07:27:40 AM
But how to explain nobody in Gotham ever talked about the worldwide events of Man of Steel? Maybe Ka-El was still undercover, and Bane's siege took place before Zod's arrival?
:D
Or just erase everything Nolan-wise... and go full reset?
Post by: eg6gsr on August 16, 2013, 03:00:14 PM
With that said I'm all for a Supes/Bats movie but they do not need a vs movie right now and it definitely doesn't need to be based on DKR for a couple reasons.
1. Supes still needs this second stand alone because we just got to know his MOS character and he's not really established yet and having him face off against Bats is really going to take away from his character building because the movie is just going to focus to much on the Superman VS Batman draw because that's what people will be going to see/want so it would be a rushed job.
2. Having a older Batman isn't going to be good if they are trying to set up this new DC franchise because it's going to be years before MOS 2 and even more years before another Batman movie and seeing as none of the other Leaguers are in place many MORE years before a actual Justice League movie and by that time the actor for Batman will be to old.
3. Just flat out there's no point? As I said the MOS Supes isn't established so what purpose would he and Batman even needing to fight in the second movie, third movie yea let them go at it but for the second movie there's just really no point to it.
We'll have to wait and see how it turns out of course but I just don't want this to turn into another Spiderman 3 situation and they ruin all their hard work just to get a fan draw and then the fans end up hating it
Post by: Superjoker on August 18, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
Superman could have saved Batman from the nuclear explosion in TDKR...
But how to explain nobody in Gotham ever talked about the worldwide events of Man of Steel? Maybe Ka-El was still undercover, and Bane's siege took place before Zod's arrival?
:D
Or just erase everything Nolan-wise... and go full reset?
I support this theory, very strong possibilities...
Batzarro... part of Nolan's crew???
:(|)
Post by: Spidermew on August 18, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on August 18, 2013, 09:47:01 PM
Seeing as how it's supposed to be based on DKR, I say bring back Michael Keaton!
of all the batman movies.. those were my favorites and the only ones i truly love. ^:)^ Michael Keaton!
Post by: C.R.O.M. Zaxis on August 18, 2013, 10:23:02 PM
Seeing as how it's supposed to be based on DKR, I say bring back Michael Keaton!:o That is possibly the best idea I have heard about this movie.
Post by: PR_1030 on August 19, 2013, 05:28:09 AM
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on August 19, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
Wait, are you SURE that it's going to be based on The Dark Knight Rises?
he meant "Dark Knight Returns" the comic.
Post by: eg6gsr on August 23, 2013, 02:46:33 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57599811/ben-affleck-to-play-batman-in-man-of-steel-sequel/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57599811/ben-affleck-to-play-batman-in-man-of-steel-sequel/)
Really man. Maybe he will do a good job but dare devil kinda ruined the idea of Ben Affleck being a Superhero.
Post by: dev. on August 23, 2013, 03:39:36 AM
Post by: PR_1030 on August 23, 2013, 04:33:00 AM
Post by: dev. on August 23, 2013, 05:34:49 AM
Look, they wouldn't have chosen him if they didn't think it was a good idea...
I think the producers thought the same when they chose him for Daredevil.
Post by: PR_1030 on August 23, 2013, 07:32:47 AM
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Post by: .Batzarro. on August 24, 2013, 09:05:58 PM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on August 24, 2013, 10:38:04 PM
mind you I'm one of those stupid weirdos who find Heath Joker completely overrated but my point still stands
Post by: DreamBrother on August 24, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 24, 2013, 10:57:29 PM
Well remember, people were just as pessimistic about Heath Ledger playing the Joker. And look how THAT turned outI did point out this same thing to someone else. We never saw Heath in the role of a some gritty super hero/villain. We never saw those acting chops put to the test and I'll admit I was one of the first to be against him being Joker and ultimately thought it was an amazing choice. We have, however, seen Affleck make a horrible Daredevil. The jump from Daredevil to Batman when it comes to how the character plays out isn't the biggest leap. If he can't do Daredevil justice, why would he be any better as Batman.?
mind you I'm one of those stupid weirdos who find Heath Joker completely overrated but my point still stands
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on August 25, 2013, 12:19:16 AM
If he can't do Daredevil justice, why would he be any better as Batman.?
Everybody is harping of him for DD, but it's easy to blame an actor when the entire movie was just a bad movie to begin with. That's not his fault anymore than Ryan being a bad GL, GL was a terrible movie overall too. That's not Clooneys fault for being a bad Barman either, B&R was a terrible movie. Same with Brandon and Superman, Superman Returns was, ahem.... WROOOOOONG!
See what I mean? If the movie itself is bad, casting even the most top-tier actors won't make a difference. Star Wars epis 1-3 anyone? It has some great actors, but lets be honest, those films are bad.
Post by: PR_1030 on August 25, 2013, 08:11:37 AM
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 25, 2013, 01:14:10 PM
Everybody is harping of him for DD, but it's easy to blame an actor when the entire movie was just a bad movie to begin with. That's not his fault anymore than Ryan being a bad GL, GL was a terrible movie overall too. That's not Clooneys fault for being a bad Barman either, B&R was a terrible movie. Same with Brandon and Superman, Superman Returns was, ahem.... WROOOOOONG!See, that right there furthers my point. Even if the movies were crap (Superman Returns/GL) I still saw/believed Bradon as Superman and Ryan as GL. It had nothing to do with their acting. When I saw Affleck as Daredevil, I didn't believe him as the character. I literally just saw Affleck wearing a DD costume, he wasn't believable. That's a lack of acting ability, not the script or anything else.
See what I mean? If the movie itself is bad, casting even the most top-tier actors won't make a difference. Star Wars epis 1-3 anyone? It has some great actors, but lets be honest, those films are bad.
Look, he's not an idiot (don't make fun of what I just said). If he made a mistake, he won't do it again...huh.?
Post by: Silva-silva on August 25, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
. I literally just saw Affleck wearing a DD costume, he wasn't believable. That's a lack of acting ability, not the script or anything else.
And Bale was? I can honestly say I never once believed that Bale was batman (or Bruce Wayne as well). In all the movies it was just bale in a Batman's costume saying stuff in a silly voice, or in a fancy suit trying to do his best Bruce Wayne impression.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on August 25, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 25, 2013, 02:41:38 PM
And Bale was? I can honestly say I never once believed that Bale was batman (or Bruce Wayne as well). In all the movies it was just bale in a Batman's costume saying stuff in a silly voice, or in a fancy suit trying to do his best Bruce Wayne impression.Yes, Bale was a great Batman. You can argue you didn't like him and you have your opinions, which is fine. You can't disregard that millions loved him in that role and clearly the trilogy was a huge success for a reason (him being one of them).
Plus, I don't get why people complain so much about his voice when he's Batman. Given, I didn't like it at first either but he HAS to disguise his voice. What can you really expect.? Him to speak normally and someone to go "Hey, I know that voice."?
Post by: SanjiSasuke on August 25, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
Post by: eg6gsr on August 25, 2013, 06:01:15 PM
See, that right there furthers my point. Even if the movies were crap (Superman Returns/GL) I still saw/believed Bradon as Superman and Ryan as GL. It had nothing to do with their acting. When I saw Affleck as Daredevil, I didn't believe him as the character. I literally just saw Affleck wearing a DD costume, he wasn't believable. That's a lack of acting ability, not the script or anything else.
..huh.?
This. The DD being a bad movie has nothing to do with Ben's bad acting in the part and as said being DD is not that big of a jump from being batman.
Now I will say since then Ben has become a much better actor and a good director so that could be a plus and I understand that they do need a big name for Batman to get people in the seats but I just can't wrap my head around why he was picked over someone like Josh Brolin or Jon ham since they seem to want to go with DKR story line(I hate that they are doing this). I will give him a chance because I want this movie to be a success to we can get other DC movies and a Justice League.
Here's to hoping
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on August 25, 2013, 07:45:05 PM
Plus, I don't get why people complain so much about his voice when he's Batman. Given, I didn't like it at first either but he HAS to disguise his voice. What can you really expect.? Him to speak normally and someone to go "Hey, I know that voice."?
Go back and watch some clips of Batman in Batman Begins. That Batman voice was just fine and different enough from his Bruce Wayne voice. That is why people complain about his voice in Dark Knight and Rises.
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 25, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
Post by: Thaknight33 on August 25, 2013, 08:51:18 PM
Post by: trebean on August 25, 2013, 09:06:09 PM
This movie will fail. *Iceman ThumbsDown!* Ben Afleck as the dark knight is so garbage. No way he can preform the martial arts scenes he will need a great stunt double. This sucks so bad. My favorite hero will be ruined again. First Clooney now this o.O#So.......... you're saying that the Nolan Trilogy had great fight scenes?
Post by: Thaknight33 on August 25, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on August 25, 2013, 09:38:56 PM
This movie will fail. *Iceman ThumbsDown!* Ben Afleck as the dark knight is so garbage. No way he can preform the martial arts scenes he will need a great stunt double. This sucks so bad. My favorite hero will be ruined again. First Clooney now this o.O#
Right, because Batman movies have sooooo much martial art action in them...
Post by: PR_1030 on August 26, 2013, 12:20:15 AM
Post by: Kriven on August 26, 2013, 04:53:22 AM
Who do you think knows more about picking actors for roles, people at Hollywood or immature people who go to Twitter, make petitions and websites just because they don't like the actor that was chosen.
Neither.
I'm going to provide a third option: talent agencies.
Post by: guy-zero32k4 on August 26, 2013, 05:29:44 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/guy-zero32k4/2013-08-23_083454_ben-affleck-matt-damon-batman-robin-size-598.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/guy-zero32k4/media/2013-08-23_083454_ben-affleck-matt-damon-batman-robin-size-598.jpg.html)
"Hey Matt, be in my new movie, we're awesome!!!"
Because Hollywood knows better? No thank you...
Post by: eg6gsr on August 27, 2013, 03:17:31 AM
Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor(reportedly).
Hmmmmm I can dig it depending on what the storyline does with the character.
Post by: ELECTRO on August 27, 2013, 03:34:22 AM
http://youtu.be/lznwPrj9tJs (http://youtu.be/lznwPrj9tJs)
Post by: Arkady on August 27, 2013, 08:18:48 AM
a bad flick
haha a batfleck :DxDie
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on August 27, 2013, 08:56:27 AM
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 27, 2013, 09:46:57 AM
It was also TEN YEARS AGO!
No Man, clearly we must judge everyone from the 1 or 2 bad things they did and never the good things they did.
Come on guys, Affleck is no Nicholas cage, you should at least give him a chance before shouting "WORST BATMAN EVERRRRR!!!!"
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on August 27, 2013, 10:29:11 AM
No Man, clearly we must judge everyone from the 1 or 2 bad things they did and never the good things they did.At least Nic Cage is enjoyably bad so you can get a kick out of his bad movies
Come on guys, Affleck is no Nicholas cage, you should at least give him a chance before shouting "WORST BATMAN EVERRRRR!!!!"
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/bryan-cranston-cast-as-lex-luthor-in-man-of-steel-20130826 (http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/bryan-cranston-cast-as-lex-luthor-in-man-of-steel-20130826)I say YES :w00t:
Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor(reportedly).
Hmmmmm I can dig it depending on what the storyline does with the character.
I can definitely see Cranston pull off Luthor
Post by: ELECTRO on August 27, 2013, 11:39:17 AM
No Man, clearly we must judge everyone from the 1 or 2 bad things they did and never the good things they did.
Come on guys, Affleck is no Nicholas cage, you should at least give him a chance before shouting "WORST BATMAN EVERRRRR!!!!"
Actually I think he will be the best Batman ever because Zack Snyder will make him look great in those action shots. All i'm trying to get at is that he has already been a Super-Hero and it was bad. So it's a rotten choice to cast him when there's thousands of other actors to choose from. It's not as rotten as casting Jamie Foxx to play a blue skinned Electro, but still bad. With all that being said i'm still pumped about seeing this movie
Post by: PR_1030 on August 28, 2013, 05:30:11 AM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on August 28, 2013, 08:10:46 AM
It has a complete lack of celebrity humiliation and cute animal moments
Post by: PR_1030 on August 28, 2013, 08:18:40 AM
Post by: Arkady on August 28, 2013, 11:14:50 AM
they are better off making more superman movies before they mave this vs dive
Post by: .Batzarro. on August 28, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
Maybe it's a good idea to choose Ben Affleck over other "relatively unknown" people because of Daredevil. Unlike other choices, Ben Affleck has already played a superhero, and now knows what to do and what not to do (if he learned from his mistakes, if he had any). He might make a mistake because he doesn't know what he should/ shouldn't do, because he has never played a superhero before.That's like saying everyone should get a free pass the first time they play a super hero/villain. Doesn't work that way. Might as well give every actor a pass the first time they play any character, no.? He was horrible as Daredevil, end of story. I do hope he's learned something from that experience and does much better here. I do have little faith in him, though.
Post by: eg6gsr on August 28, 2013, 02:21:29 PM
I read some comments on that Lex Luthor article. People are saying it's fake, and I haven't seen it on Yahoo yet. (Don't make fun of me because I use Yahoo. Almost all of the news I get is from there, including movies and video games)
That's what I put "reportedly" because it's not clear if he has the part or is in the running for it but i will say if he's only in the running for the part the other actors better be great.
Maybe it's a good idea to choose Ben Affleck over other "relatively unknown" people because of Daredevil. Unlike other choices, Ben Affleck has already played a superhero, and now knows what to do and what not to do (if he learned from his mistakes, if he had any). He might make a mistake because he doesn't know what he should/ shouldn't do, because he has never played a superhero before.
Never looked at it from that perspective but even in the sense I wouldn't want Clooney back as Bat's(Kilmer's Bat's was passable). I'll admit my initial reaction was one of utter disgust but now I'm more of the store owner giving a known thief a second chance hoping he won't let me down.
PLEASE don't let us down Ben we need this movie to do beyond good.
Post by: eg6gsr on August 29, 2013, 04:22:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4U4he3GgC4#t=55 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4U4he3GgC4#t=55)
Not bad
Post by: C.R.O.M. - 有且只有一個 on August 29, 2013, 04:40:59 AM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on August 29, 2013, 03:42:52 PM
Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne will be very good. he looks the part, has shown he is a good actor even moreso with this movie if given a good script and has a lot more years since daredevil movie to get comic craft transition to real life version on the screen. Being an iconic or even a comic well known character isnt that easy for everyone to portray. Hell i didnt like Val or Clooney as Bruce Wayne or Batman. Keaton and Bale done the best jobs of them. I still think Bale off raspy wack Batman voice is the silliest tho. He may sounded weird but he was the better fighter batman. Keaton Bruce Wayne/Batman was and will be forever an iconic version.
Affleck i seriously think ( and hope) will play a great Bruce Wayne..point blank... thing is will he sell as Batman persona. i say give the guy a good chance. Might even surprise everyone who doubt him. Anyone can look like Batman in the costume but can they become Batman is the thing. I wouldnt change up the new Superman .. i like him as Superman/Clark Kent/. He fits.
i will def check this movie out and see what else comes with some trailers in time. Ya better do good Affleck!
Post by: PR_1030 on August 30, 2013, 09:39:25 AM
Post by: Twinimage on September 01, 2013, 10:47:08 PM
Let's face it, no matter who gets cast as Batman, the fan boys are going to rant and find something wrong with the guy. Let's just wait and see how WB plans to take this new (and ultimately different) DC universe. The script hasn't even been finished yet. It's ok to have doubts, but let's not say the movie's doomed before it's even filmed. Reserve judgement till the trailers start showing up.
Post by: metamutant on September 01, 2013, 11:07:50 PM
They would have been better off getting a no name like the Man of Steel actor was.
Post by: PR_1030 on September 01, 2013, 11:27:18 PM
Post by: metamutant on September 02, 2013, 12:28:37 AM
Post by: .Batzarro. on September 02, 2013, 01:05:24 AM
Post by: Twinimage on September 02, 2013, 05:57:17 PM
I think fans can rant and rave all they want considering they are the ones buying the movie tickets. It was a terrible business decision to have Bennifer play Batman. People don't want the George Clooney goofy dark knight
I have to disagree.
First, believe it or not, the fans only make up around 3% of those that will see the movie in theaters. So we really don't have any leverage on how WB and DC should make their movies.
Second, having Affleck as Batman is a smart, strategic move for WB. Everyone at where I work was talking about Affleck as Batman the day after the announcement. No such chatter when Henry Cavill was cast as Superman. Thankfully, WB had a good marketing campaign for Man of Steel. Adding Affleck's name to it will help sell the movie to the general audience.
Third, there is no way WB is going to go back to the campy Batman, especially with Zack Snyder directing. His movies have always had a darker tone. Affleck is in no way a sign that Batman will be goofy.
Whether or not Affleck was the "best" choice, I'll trust the movie professionals every time.
EDIT: Side note - I don't think Ryan Reynolds was the problem with the GL movie. It was everything else. lol (script, directing, etc.) Not saying Reynolds was "best" choice. Just saying, he could have done a lot better had he been given better stuff to work with.
Post by: metamutant on September 02, 2013, 06:54:13 PM
I have to disagree.
First, believe it or not, the fans only make up around 3% of those that will see the movie in theaters. So we really don't have any leverage on how WB and DC should make their movies.
You are confusing fans with fanboys, I wasn't just including hardcore fans. Basically I was talking about fans in general as consumers of a product, consumers can always spend their money how they want too. Again fans in general or consumers are the ones who pay for the films, so without them no film that's pretty simple. Personally I have send enough bad or disappointing movies not to rush and see another lackluster summer blockbuster.
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Second, having Affleck as Batman is a smart, strategic move for WB. Everyone at where I work was talking about Affleck as Batman the day after the announcement. No such chatter when Henry Cavill was cast as Superman. Thankfully, WB had a good marketing campaign for Man of Steel. Adding Affleck's name to it will help sell the movie to the general audience.
Not all press is good press. Where I'm from adding Bennifer's name downgraded the movie. I really don't think the general audience holds his acting skills as a serious realistic superhero in the same high regard as you do but only time will tell about that. Most of the movies that bomb have high price well known actors and actresses in them, but they put more emphasis on the fame of the actors instead of on a decent script and plot.
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Third, there is no way WB is going to go back to the campy Batman, especially with Zack Snyder directing. His movies have always had a darker tone. Affleck is in no way a sign that Batman will be goofy.
Whether or not Affleck was the "best" choice, I'll trust the movie professionals every time.
We just have totally different opinions about that. The "movie professionals" also had George Clooney Batman, Arnold Mr. Freeze, Halle Berry Catwoman, Seth Rogen as Green Hornet and so on. I think a lot of evidence is out there that the "movie professionals" get it wrong more times than they should.
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EDIT: Side note - I don't think Ryan Reynolds was the problem with the GL movie. It was everything else. lol (script, directing, etc.) Not saying Reynolds was "best" choice. Just saying, he could have done a lot better had he been given better stuff to work with.
I agree with that and my point is why go that route to begin with. There are other famous actors out there without going with someone with negative baggage from a similar type of character role.