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Title: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 29, 2013, 03:14:22 PM
I was seeking information about a Mortal Kombat VS Street Fighter crossover to know if it was true and look what I found.

https://twitter.com/noobde/status/299942661987635200

Now, if this game ever exists, how would you want it to be? Gameplay, graphics, ideas for fatalities and hypers, story...

Honestly I was thinking of who should clash:

Ryu VS Scorpion
Chun-Li VS Sub-Zero
Ken VS Cage
Cammy VS Sonya
Guile VS Jax
Poison VS Mileena
Rose VS Ermac
Vega VS Baraka
Sakura VS Kitana
Thunder Hawk VS Nightwolf
Fei Long VS Liu Kang
Cody VS Kano
Gouken VS Raiden
Balrog VS Goro
Zangief VS Kintaro
Crimson Viper VS Stryker
Rolento VS Cyrax
Juri VS Sindel
Blanka VS Reptile
Dhalsim VS Sektor
Gen VS Shang Tsung
Alex VS Sheeva
Sagat VS Kung Lao
Ibuki VS Jade
Guy VS Smoke
M. Bison VS Quan Chi
Akuma VS Shao Kahn
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on May 29, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
I think a lot of your pair ups are wrong.

Scorpion and SubZero vs Ryu and Ken would make more sense. They ARE the original clone bros  8)
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 29, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
But Chun-Li is considered the second protagonist of Street Fighter, specially because she is probably the most famous woman in gaming, so protagonists vs protagonists. Also, Ken's personality fits well against Cage.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Twinimage on May 29, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
They are soooo different, I can't see them working together well. MK's got the blood and killing. Can't see SF characters killing or being killed.

If they did put the two together, I'd want it in 2D and be a new 2D art style. NO cell shading! That's just lazy and never looks the way they intend.
Something dark and edgy but not too dark to over power the SF tone. Something in between.

Gameplay should be tag team, most modern fighting games aren't as good without it. Especially since the controls will need to be something similar to MVC3, because MK and SF have a different set number of punches and kicks. Will need to use a control layout that meets in between.

If you HAVE to have fatalities, just let the MK characters perform them and SF can do some crazy hyper combo finish instead.

As for roster, I say SF2 roster vs MK2 roster. They're the most iconic rosters of both series.
You know they'd just take the most popular ones that we ALWAYS see, e.g. Ryu, Chun-li, Scorpion, Sub-Zero...
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: esn23 on May 29, 2013, 03:56:34 PM
I hope this never happens lol but wouldnt dan go better against cage ryu against sub scorpion ken kitana vs chunli sindel vs rose your match ups dont make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: I-Skorp-I on May 29, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
They are soooo different, I can't see them working together well. MK's got the blood and killing. Can't see SF characters killing or being killed.

If they did put the two together, I'd want it in 2D and be a new 2D art style. NO cell shading! That's just lazy and never looks the way they intend.
Something dark and edgy but not too dark to over power the SF tone. Something in between.

Gameplay should be tag team, most modern fighting games aren't as good without it. Especially since the controls will need to be something similar to MVC3, because MK and SF have a different set number of punches and kicks. Will need to use a control layout that meets in between.

If you HAVE to have fatalities, just let the MK characters perform them and SF can do some crazy hyper combo finish instead.

As for roster, I say SF2 roster vs MK2 roster. They're the most iconic rosters of both series.
You know they'd just take the most popular ones that we ALWAYS see, e.g. Ryu, Chun-li, Scorpion, Sub-Zero...

Umm you can't be serious tho right? LOLLL street fighter characters would kill in a HEARTBEAT just because they don't have it in the games like mortal kombat does don't mean they won't kill. hell half there moves could kill you if it was real life. but i do agree with you on one thing tho NO CELL SHADING it's the worst kida graphic i have ever seen it gives me motion sickness and it looks like lazy art work.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on May 29, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
I think he meant in terms of gameplay style, not character portrayal.

Though I CAN see the likes of Vega (claw), Juri, and Akuma doing fatalities
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Twinimage on May 29, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
I'm thinking of the portrayal of the good guys. I've never known them to kill. One of Ryu's greatest traits is to NOT kill... Now you COULD argue that the hatsu no hadou overtakes the good guys.
It all depends on how they compromise. It could end up being another DC vs Mortal Kombat. :P
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: I-Skorp-I on May 29, 2013, 05:04:32 PM
Ahh i see..well in that case yea if you talkin bout ryu and such but at the end of the day this whole (im a good guy so i don't kill) bs is just that IMO..BS lol cause im sorry if im a good guy and all i do is pull a batman and just keep trying to lock up a villain for decades im going to have the common sense to know (ok this guy is going to keep breaking out of here some how or some way so i might as well end it) that's just me tho cause after i seen the last batman animated movie when the joker was tellin him "why don't you just kill me? why waste your time locking me up when im always going to escape?" and i stuck with that ever since then cause it's foolish of the heroes to keep doing it.

And btw idk Hyper but it always seem like every time i post something that go against something, you always have to post a reply to me why is that? are you tryin to pick on me >.> LOL jp :-j
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: supa2520 on May 29, 2013, 05:30:33 PM
like this  :)
ryu vs scorpion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXPFgRsVUE#)
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: I-Skorp-I on May 29, 2013, 05:32:21 PM
like this  :)
ryu vs scorpion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXPFgRsVUE#)

Right loll btw i love that video they had 3 parts to that story
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Darkflare on May 29, 2013, 05:35:11 PM
As much as I like Proxicide's work, he took so many liberties in it that it would never properly fit in a fighting game.

That said, if this were to happen, I would wake up from this crazy dream.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: supa2520 on May 29, 2013, 05:38:04 PM
As much as I like Proxicide's work, he took so many liberties in it that it would never properly fit in a fighting game.

That said, if this were to happen, I would wake up from this crazy dream.
yea that would be over the top but it can be for the opening
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: laspacho on May 29, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
There better not be a block or a run button.   It needs to be hold back to block.  ;*))
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on May 29, 2013, 07:00:41 PM
And btw idk Hyper but it always seem like every time i post something that go against something, you always have to post a reply to me why is that? are you tryin to pick on me >.> LOL jp :-j
I swear that is just coincidence.  :D
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: I-Skorp-I on May 29, 2013, 07:01:54 PM
I swear that is just coincidence.  :D

Man i would sure hope so LOL :D
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 29, 2013, 07:28:59 PM
I hope this never happens lol but wouldnt dan go better against cage ryu against sub scorpion ken kitana vs chunli sindel vs rose your match ups dont make a lot of sense.
Could you be a little more specific? And also, if you don't like it, tell me yours, this thread is for ideas, so start posting.

Also, regarding Street Fighter characters not killing, well, it wasn't like they couldn't kill, its because Street Fighter wasn't made to kill from the start, so, why shouldn't we give them this little opening right now? Every single fighter in Street Fighter can have a killing move, they never did it because it was introduced by Mortal Kombat.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on May 29, 2013, 07:51:44 PM
Could you be a little more specific? And also, if you don't like it, tell me yours, this thread is for ideas, so start posting.
Its kinda similar to what I just mentioned. Here's an example of what we're refering to:

Ryu vs Scorpion (main characters)
Ken vs SubZero (clones of main chars)
Chun Li vs Sonya Blade (lead ladies)
Guile vs Jax (partner of lead lady)
Juri Han vs Mileena (vicious and sensual killers)
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 29, 2013, 08:03:33 PM
What? Sub-Zero, a clone of Scorpion? You're kidding right? Also, despite Sonya being the "lead lady" of MK, Chun-Li has a far greater level of importance in SF. And I added Poison against Mileena because, well, they are very sexy, but, they can also be... surprising.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: I-Skorp-I on May 29, 2013, 08:17:49 PM
What? Sub-Zero, a clone of Scorpion? You're kidding right? Also, despite Sonya being the "lead lady" of MK, Chun-Li has a far greater level of importance in SF. And I added Poison against Mileena because, well, they are very sexy, but, they can also be... surprising.

Well well it's bout time me and hyper agree on somethin. i like the match up hyper just posted cause if you think about it the fans would see hypers match up more likely to happen then the match up that Mac posted (not saying that Mac's match ups were bad cause there not just don't agree with all of them) Sonya vs Chun Li would fit cause there both working for the higher ups like the FEDs and the C.I.A. and police force or w.e. and Jax and Guile are both militant and sub-zero is not a CLONE in that sense Mac hyper means he is basically the 2ed most popular ninja look alike in the series and well...scorpion vs Ryu..should be on the cover of the game if anything lol but far as poison and Milleena i would have to disagree cause poison has no real fighting style like Mileena does im sure Juri would stand more of a chance to mileena then poison would.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 29, 2013, 08:24:43 PM
No real fighting style? I didn't know that was actually needed. After all she can fight and she has a well made moveset despite this. Onaga, Moloch, Blaze and Motaro didn't have named fighting styles also, and they were considerably well made. Specially Motaro in MK3.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: I-Skorp-I on May 29, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
Ye but look at who u just named..those are all big guys Well blaze used 2 b small but yea. Poison is normal sized and still cant fight all that good so thats why i said juri would be more of a better opponant
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on May 29, 2013, 09:39:53 PM
Well, I understand why you added her, but personally, I never thought Juri sexy.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: dakidbanks on May 30, 2013, 10:28:54 PM
Some SF characters will kill...

In MK vs DC, the heroes don't kill so Idk why the "killing" issue is even a topic
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: PR_1030 on May 30, 2013, 11:31:12 PM
If there was an MK vs Street Fighter, maybe it should be like Marvel vs Capcom; no story, just characters,  stages, extras, etc. I can't imagine it like Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe or Injustice: Gods Among Us, which has an amazing story. And I think maybe it could be Ryu vs Lui Kang. And instead of Chun-li vs Sonya, maybe it should be Chun-li vs Kitana and Cammy vs Sonya.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: supa2520 on May 31, 2013, 09:29:58 AM
heres more
A New Challenge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cysN61gEEPI#ws)
skip it to 3:00 :)

VG Exiles - Episode 3 - Shadowlawless(Stryker Vs. M.Bison)(fight scene) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ORYpPRspQU#ws)

Ken vs Shang Tsung (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqfCi6MB3I#)
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: chuchoryu on May 31, 2013, 01:43:57 PM
Maybe this happen in 2015, but I prefer a small roster

MK Side: Liu Kang, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Sonya, Jax, Kitana, Shang Tsung, Kano, Baraka, Rayden, Reptile and Shao Kahn

SF Side: Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Chun Li, Guile, Cammy, Dhalsim, Balrog, Vega, M. Bison, Blanka and Akuma

The iconic fighter from this two sagas and the VS gam all like to see in 1995 and 2000 and 2004 and 2010
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: supa2520 on May 31, 2013, 02:43:46 PM
Maybe this happen in 2015, but I prefer a small roster

MK Side: Liu Kang, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Sonya, Jax, Kitana, Shang Tsung, Kano, Baraka, Rayden, Reptile and Shao Kahn

SF Side: Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Chun Li, Guile, Cammy, Dhalsim, Balrog, Vega, M. Bison, Blanka and Akuma

The iconic fighter from this two sagas and the VS gam all like to see in 1995 and 2000 and 2004 and 2010
like the one from mk vs dcu
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: chuchoryu on May 31, 2013, 03:14:42 PM
like the one from mk vs dcu
Yes but need to add Reptile from MK and Jhony Cace

Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Kriven on June 04, 2013, 07:38:25 AM
Bo' Rai Cho vs Rufus.

I hate both of these characters, but they were made for each other.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: supa2520 on June 11, 2013, 07:06:08 AM
Bo' Rai Cho vs Rufus.

I hate both of these characters, but they were made for each other.
now thats a good challenge they both big & fat but they both have unique fighting styles i like it :D 
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Cayne on June 18, 2013, 08:31:06 PM
I feel they have too many god type characters in Mk to really do a crossover outside of superheroes. Remeber Deception intro where raiden dies than shang stung dies and when Onaga comes in 5 seconds later they just get back up and just look at each other like "I like your moves" "No, i like your moves lets die again" Boom. Up raidens back lol
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 18, 2013, 09:21:22 PM
I feel they have too many god type characters in Mk to really do a crossover outside of superheroes.
That isn't a problem. Characters need to be adapted to a fighting game when they enter it. Otherwise, in Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3, characters such as Thor, Phoenix, Morrigan, Amaterasu, Storm, Hulk, Dr. Doom, Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, Ghost Rider and specially Galactus would have no problem in fighting, some of them would blink an eye and make the other disintegrate, also, characters like Phoenix Wright wouldn't be even fighting.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Cayne on June 18, 2013, 11:39:00 PM
That isn't a problem. Characters need to be adapted to a fighting game when they enter it. Otherwise, in Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3, characters such as Thor, Phoenix, Morrigan, Amaterasu, Storm, Hulk, Dr. Doom, Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, Ghost Rider and specially Galactus would have no problem in fighting, some of them would blink an eye and make the other disintegrate, also, characters like Phoenix Wright wouldn't be even fighting.
Oh don't get me wrong it's feasable enough, it's just there concept's are so different. there approachs to combat are too different. Street fighters lifelong training versus Mk emphasis's on brutality.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Macaulyn97 on June 23, 2013, 02:56:52 PM
Oh don't get me wrong it's feasable enough, it's just there concept's are so different. there approachs to combat are too different. Street fighters lifelong training versus Mk emphasis's on brutality.
In fact, Street Fighter characters are more than capable of doing fatalities. They don't do it because it wasn't the game's style, since it started with Mortal Kombat, but if you see the animes and OVA's you'll see that the Street Fighters are very mortal.

And regarding the fighting style, well, only little exceptions fight with uncommon fighting styles (like Karin, who has an original one and Poison, whose style is a set of acrobatics), but most in both of games fight with japanese and chinese fighting styles.
Title: Re: If the MKvsSF crossover actually become true, how should it be?
Post by: Cayne on June 23, 2013, 06:26:39 PM
In fact, Street Fighter characters are more than capable of doing fatalities. They don't do it because it wasn't the game's style, since it started with Mortal Kombat, but if you see the animes and OVA's you'll see that the Street Fighters are very mortal.

And regarding the fighting style, well, only little exceptions fight with uncommon fighting styles (like Karin, who has an original one and Poison, whose style is a set of acrobatics), but most in both of games fight with japanese and chinese fighting styles.
You make a excellent point about their fighting styles M, however IMO MK shouldn't cross with anything becuse it would rob MK of its full potentail. Sure Ryu and the gang have butted heads with rival yet similar companies but the last time netherrealm tried a crossover it was the worse MK experience I have ever had. I hated MK vs DC with a passion and Flashes infinite cheese fest combo didn't help. Do you really think the fast paced SF crew could be slowed down enough to fight the slower MK crew? The Mugenites have never been successful and they don't have two companies bytching about what they will and won't allow to happen. I rather keep them seperate and play Street fighter 5 and Mortal kombat 10, when and if their released.
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