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Title: RIP CVG????
Post by: ZVitor on September 07, 2012, 07:12:47 AM
 :-??
10 days off?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 07, 2012, 07:38:47 AM
Indeed!!!   :'(

However Cvg changed name to Gaming Panda so Cvg RIP!!!

On Monday it will be back!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 07, 2012, 08:58:33 AM
Yeah the plan was to become TGP.

I couldnt tell you whats going on with setting it up though.

It's a tad frustrating, but regardless of where I am at, some surprises are on the way.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on September 07, 2012, 09:14:29 AM
Computer and Video Games gave you trouble about the name? Or Commercial Vehicle Group even?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 07, 2012, 09:24:40 AM
The real reason for the name change was a concensus that we wanted to break away from the past. Really BDC, and I with our respective projects were all that was left there, and other than Jmaxx, and Whiplash, and a couple others most of the new contributors were a whole new group of new talent that really took the site under their wing.

Theres also Spookys desire to break the site into sections to deal with game consoles, and gaming talk and I guess the old site didnt have that capability. So he wanted a site where he and his crew of friends can talk X-Box, PS3, ect while still offering a Mugen portal.

So far what Ive seen it looks good, it's different if it works the way he wants it to. Hopefully people who may have never heard of Mugen will stumble on it.

I dunno, I am pretty much into individual character developement right now so all the site stuff isnt something I have time to get into. I hope it all works out.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 07, 2012, 01:19:32 PM
well i hope all goes well. i really miss it  :)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on September 07, 2012, 01:22:24 PM
well i hope all goes well. i really miss it  :)

yeah cvg chat was the hangout and too many laughs to ever count went on in there. Bring that back! lol
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 07, 2012, 03:07:06 PM
yeah cvg chat was the hangout and too many laughs to ever count went on in there. Bring that back! lol

I second that!!! Miss the chat!!!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 07, 2012, 03:22:26 PM
yea me too lol
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 07, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
 :-?? I don't like that idea, revamping the site might be good but CVG, the name, has had a strong reputation, some negative, but it has a long successful history of success and variety in choice. Not to mention all the web videos out there that attract users. They try to visit cvg they'll never get there with their new wip. You really shouldn't throw out the name. I think that's the main reason why you even attracted so many was because you offered a pretty big variety there- Comics, VIDEO, and Games. That alone grabs the attention of an all ready big set of franchises like Nintendo, Marvel, Sony,etc.

Whatever happens though I'll visit and stick around but I feel like it could have that new forum effect where "it offers nothing yet, so why visit" kinda feeling.

Another point is changing a name won't rid you of all that bad publicity, unless everyone poses as completely new users  :D

How many years has CVG lived anyway? If it's long it would be a shame to activate the kill switch on it's name. CVG is like a staple now in mugen, it's up there with MFG,IMT,MI,& RS. A user can just mention cvg in a place like MFG and they'll know who you're talking about.   :)

I couldn't imagine Infinity Mugen Team changing their name into "Action Red Mugen" just because some creators left or Acey decided to retire. Mugen enthusiast visit the name on some unconscious level.  :DB:

Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Snakebyte on September 07, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
Took the words right out of my mouth, Ax.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 07, 2012, 04:04:21 PM
I guess if it has a negative impact then it does. It's not really up to me. Myself, BDC, and AA250 felt that was the name that Spooky, and Volzilla gave the forum, and it really wasnt us. We were Team Spoiler

I feel a little overwhelmed trying to help everybody out, and I just cant do it anymore. Spooky just isnt around enough to manage it, his interest in Mugen is shrinking so it was either he turn it into something that interests him, or close up shop because I am not going to run it by myself, and code, and bug fix everything for everybody, plus run the forum. I just cant do it.

I told Spooky I would likely move the Bat-Project, and non project stuff elsewhere if thats the scenario. To be honest I am still not sure it really depends if I get some back up, and people to moderate and run the site.

I think there is a solid crew of people who have been really helpful that deserve to raised up, and help keep order, but I hate those decisions fall entirely on me.

Not sound negative, it's not all negative. I guess I just needed to vent a lilttle cuz i feel like I have a whole lot on my shoulders when I just want to code, and keep improving my skills and knowledge.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 07, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
dude i know exactly what you mean. as a young coder i can kinda see where you are coming from man. i just wanna code and expand my knowledge of coding as much as i possibly can to one day be called one of the best. i personally love cvg and lov what you guys do with it. and i really respect what you and the others do to make it a good site. its ok to vent because we all do it and sometime its needed. we are all human.

 if help is what you are looking for then i would like to offer my help in any way i can. i would love to be apart of the team and all that, but i also understand if that is not possible considering all the stuff that has happened and what not. but i really believe i could help out alot.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: mon-el on September 07, 2012, 04:54:15 PM
I'll be glad when it comes back. I miss chatting with people there about mugen and everything else. It was a site with good people there to talk to, and be helpful for mugen info.

I MISS CHAT! :P

Anyway, can't wait for it's return.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on September 07, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
I'll be glad when it comes back. I miss chatting with people there about mugen and everything else. It was a site with good people there to talk to, and be helpful for mugen info.

I MISS CHAT! :P

Anyway, can't wait for it's return.  :thumbsup:

indeed bro. indeed.

it was the place where i knew where to find my friends and fam at in chat. check out what was going on with their wips and yeah of course... chat! lol. nothin felt as good to come in the chat room and its like 15 people in there talking about anything under the moon and the sun. lots of sneak peeks, sprites that people wanted to show off and great feedback from each other. and the jokes... tons of them! lol. sometimes whicvh was alot of times i would be fallin out laughing and my kids think i was watchin a comedy show or talkin to myself. ...which i do sometimes.   :D

so imagine the face i made when i went to log in and saw...Gaming Panda.   i thought i hit wrong buttons., somebody hit my pc with a virus or even worse..  apractical joke being played on me the guys there.  :D . thats always been a cool focus when it was called CVG, not just being a good name for itself but as well.. fun people in the chat and others that showed each other cool respect.  even the trolls. yes even them.  Darn you Blitz! \-/o lol
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: jax123 on September 07, 2012, 05:27:07 PM

Man I'm really want ant update new sprites for mine edits! :o

And yes it's me, Max007
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 07, 2012, 06:07:17 PM
hey yooooo max! :thumbsup:

yea i know what you mean lando chat was the spot to hang and get lots of sneak peaks haha. i miss all you buds lando, nx, max, blag, mon, mugen ninja, xero and all the rest im forgetting lol  :)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: jax123 on September 07, 2012, 06:21:11 PM
lol
Hey Young!,What's Up Homie!  ::salute::
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Whiplash- on September 07, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Alright. So itès not dying, just getting it's name changed?

I think I can live with that. hopefully this way we can attract more people to the site if it doesn't feel like we only make comic characters there. (which ATM it does...)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 08, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Thats what were hoping to attract a wider range of the gaming community. Plus it sends a message to the community that we arent just comic oriented Mugen site exclusively, and hopefully some of the bad things that happened with CVG's past will be left behind. BDC,AA250, and I never had issues with MFG, or MI. We used their feedback, and learned a lot from it.

Also it allows us to bring back the nifty pandatar avy's again.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: supa2520 on September 08, 2012, 11:45:49 AM
man when i hered the news i was lost if it wasn't for cvg i wouldn't got into this mugen gig i know they are changing there new name and all but im sure its for the best remember.....

"we must forget about the past to open the doors to a greater & brighter future." :)

supa2520
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on September 10, 2012, 09:22:35 AM
So.....it's Monday, but the Gaming Panda forum isn't up. 

 \-/o
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: O Ilusionista on September 10, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
We used their feedback, and learned a lot from it.

This shows how experienced people are now. So good to hear/see it.

Quote
Also it allows us to bring back the nifty pandatar avy's again.

Yeah, that is pretty cool!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on September 10, 2012, 09:43:58 AM
.....so when is the forum going to be out of Maintenance Mode? 

Also, do registered accounts from CVG United carry over to The Gaming Panda?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: daraku on September 10, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
Ehy today the forum should be back? But it wasn't! But here didn't exist a chat? What happend :-??
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 10, 2012, 10:58:22 AM
Ehy today the forum should be back? But it wasn't! But here didn't exist a chat? What happend :-??

Wish i knew!!!  :'(

I dont think the forum will be back today cause that error message exists all weekend!!!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on September 10, 2012, 11:07:45 AM
well i hope everything ports over smoothly. then that would mean if it doesnt then have to post up WIP all over again.  :'(  buuuut that could be cool ( for me lol) cause then redo it all new. i think things will transfer over cool tho.

goodf luck guys on the new look and eveything with the site....bring back chat!  \-/o
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 10, 2012, 11:15:48 AM
Spooky is rarely on time. Only thing I can assume is that he knows we have a lil something planned on the 15th. Maybe he thinks he can hold off till then. If not I guess IMT will be the place.

I can't say for sure but everything should carry over. That could beart of what's taking so long. May be a royal pain to transfer.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: daraku on September 10, 2012, 11:39:54 AM
BTW the chat works on CVG... for me, and it's very strange, because the site is off, Alex have u tried to enter on CVG Chat?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 10, 2012, 11:54:04 AM
Okay I can get into chat from my cell history. So I guess if you have a chat link in history you can get on the chat.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 10, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
BTW the chat works on CVG... for me, and it's very strange, because the site is off, Alex have u tried to enter on CVG Chat?

It workssssssssssssssssssss!!!! :)

Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 10, 2012, 12:24:48 PM
chat everybody  :) :thumbsup: :P
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on September 10, 2012, 12:35:38 PM
awwww hell yeah ! chat session!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: bambulin on September 10, 2012, 01:46:05 PM
anyone know where you can access the CVG? that's what happens? :o
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 10, 2012, 03:55:03 PM
anyone know where you can access the CVG? that's what happens? :o

Yeah! Click here http://cvgunited.com/chat/ (http://cvgunited.com/chat/)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 15, 2012, 01:52:22 PM
Announcement:

Hey Guys

Cvg just died and The Gaming Panda will open on Monday 9/17!!!  :w00t:

By SPOOKY!!!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Lanier1996 on September 15, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
CVG is dead NOOO!!! what happens to the account I had?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 15, 2012, 02:54:09 PM
Quote
Will return Monday, 9/17! (PROMISE) Sorry for the delays!

http://thegamingpanda.com/index.php (http://thegamingpanda.com/index.php)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: NX-MEN on September 15, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
CVG is dead NOOO!!! what happens to the account I had?

I think all accounts will be moved to the new forum!!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: CosmicToxin on September 15, 2012, 05:08:18 PM
I think all accounts will be moved to the new forum!!
what new forum
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Snakebyte on September 15, 2012, 05:11:07 PM
Look up two posts...
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 16, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
Look up two posts...

lmao
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Zox- on September 16, 2012, 02:06:46 PM
Well then RIP CVG, im gonna miss that guy... what was his name, Godzilla i think... i dont know :-??
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: ZVitor on September 16, 2012, 02:11:29 PM
zoks?
 :D
ZOKS?
 :DxDie

welcome back my friend!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 16, 2012, 02:14:37 PM
Well then RIP CVG, im gonna miss that guy... what was his name, Godzilla i think... i dont know :-??

 :D lol too funny

is this the famous zox i always here about?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on September 17, 2012, 09:07:21 AM
The new site apparently isn't up yet.......
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: CosmicToxin on September 17, 2012, 04:51:10 PM
Look up two posts...
i got a 404 error from host gator :(
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: mon-el on September 18, 2012, 02:00:00 AM
Out with the old and in with the new.

Now marks the the triumphant return of the formally named "CVG", and now enter:

http://crusadercast.com/index.php (http://crusadercast.com/index.php)

check it out.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 18, 2012, 02:01:31 AM
come join the fun lol
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: daraku on September 18, 2012, 03:54:09 AM
the site is better than ever!!! Came in site!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Cyanide on September 18, 2012, 05:39:31 AM
Oh, it still has the "you must register to view more than 6 pages" That is not really conducive to getting new people in, it's more off putting than anything else. Most people would say "bugger that then" rather than "ooh i must see more so i will register" Forced registration is a major turn off for anyone on entering places. I know it's normal, but if you dont' have to, try to avoid it.

Here, infantry, guild, most of the smaller places all simply let you lurk as much as you want, if you want to distance yourselves from CVG you might want to re-think that particular feature as well.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 18, 2012, 08:52:08 AM
I guess I am not really feeling it.

I dont see much content added that made this worth making the change, and the name and logo doesnt really inspire me.

Well it's Spookys site so hopefully he can keep it going.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: supa2520 on September 18, 2012, 10:30:45 AM
wow not bad since cvg logo is no more now my character is a imt now but that dosent mean i can use my other w.i.p.s there lol but i like how spooky fix that site up i hope to see more improvements there great job :)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 18, 2012, 11:05:59 AM
wow not bad since cvg logo is no more now my character is a imt now but that dosent mean i can use my other w.i.p.s there lol but i like how spooky fix that site up i hope to see more improvements there great job :)
what character is that? I don't see any of your wips part of any imt project?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 18, 2012, 12:23:55 PM
Well in closing Ive elected to drop from the Team at Crusades or whatever its called. I am pretty sure BDC will likely take a lesser role as he's busy, and AA250 has lost interest in Mugen right now. So CVG is officially no more.

I'll still be hanging around there in chat and what not but I think I am going to investigate other opportunities, and see where it leads. This new place looks mostly like a forum for promotion and less team oriented. I personally like the team envirornment best.

So its been real, but the era is over.

I am sure we'll still all be around in different forms so we shall see where everyone turns up.

Maybe Team Spoiler needs to make a comeback LOL
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Zox- on September 18, 2012, 01:10:55 PM
Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: ZVitor on September 18, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
 :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
common, new forum, lets forget past and acept Zox!
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Zox- on September 18, 2012, 02:02:04 PM
no bro, when i wanted to register i tried to take name Zox then it gives me this message.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Blagoy on September 18, 2012, 02:11:18 PM
Cool man  :Terry
Welcome back :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 18, 2012, 02:14:07 PM
Well in closing Ive elected to drop from the Team at Crusades or whatever its called. I am pretty sure BDC will likely take a lesser role as he's busy, and AA250 has lost interest in Mugen right now. So CVG is officially no more.

I'll still be hanging around there in chat and what not but I think I am going to investigate other opportunities, and see where it leads. This new place looks mostly like a forum for promotion and less team oriented. I personally like the team envirornment best.

So its been real, but the era is over.

I am sure we'll still all be around in different forms so we shall see where everyone turns up.

Maybe Team Spoiler needs to make a comeback LOL

wow  :o new era for mugen i guess
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: ZVitor on September 19, 2012, 02:53:51 PM
i know a lot here hate volzilla, and to somes he just make portraits, but if you check what happened with cvg and mmv in last months, looks like he was really essential to this teams....
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: iron-angelus on September 19, 2012, 03:34:55 PM
i know a lot here hate volzilla, and to somes he just make portraits, but if you check what happened with cvg and mmv in last months, looks like he was really essential to this teams....

I'm totally agree with Z. He made a lot of mistakes but he was like the glue of those teams (especially in MMV), just have to see what happened on that forum when he left. (The attitude of Pots helped a lot too :D)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 19, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
Volzilla saved my red skull entirely, if he had never done that and sent me my old copy I would have never updated and released it, ever!

He was whinny at times, probably over stepped his bounds, a mistake of that he didn't realize, but he was still our long time supporter since ever. Supported everybody and promoted for everybody. Even encouraged extra activity such as character reviews which were fun to just read on ranks and opinions.

We make a big fuss over little things, and so we've forgotten what's really important, the community we had and lost.  [-X

Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Acey on September 19, 2012, 03:53:27 PM
...but if you check what happened with cvg and mmv in last months, looks like he was really essential to this teams....

 ^^(PM)^
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 19, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
Essential my butt. This all his fault! You guys are beyond ignorant praising him. He drove a wedge between everyone of my friends and caused them to leave. Screwing the site. He simply tranferred that cancer to mmv. That sight lasted a couple of months and your saying that was a success?






Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 19, 2012, 04:18:06 PM
^^(PM)^
yeah like bulldog was essential to your site
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: ZVitor on September 19, 2012, 05:07:56 PM
lol, no doubt your butts is essential.
we are really beyond ignorant, and we dont know what really happened there,
like i said, it is how t look like, if he was the problem, then why cvg is down after he quit?
i understood why he was removed, but cant really understand that crusader thing part, just conincidence?....
i honestly hope to see you back with Team spoiler or something.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Zox- on September 19, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
So what is now with godzilla... he moved to another planet? He dead?
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 19, 2012, 06:20:04 PM
So what is now with godzilla... he moved to another planet? He dead?

quit mugen
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 19, 2012, 07:10:55 PM
Would anybody be opposed to bringing back cvg, I mean if we could bring it back? How many of you would return?  :-w


Maybe something can be done but I need some supporters here, who would willingly try again? Alexziq? Youngsamurai? Zvitor? Volzilla, Ark,etc?

Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 19, 2012, 09:02:50 PM
OK I'll just come out and say it, I am not sure the crusader will stand on its own so I went out of my way to re-create a mock cvgunited page

http://cvgmugen.webstarts.com/index.html (http://cvgmugen.webstarts.com/index.html)

So?

:thumbsup: or  *Iceman ThumbsDown!*


Not doing this to disrespect Spooky but a lot of us are upset over the name change,  focus change, and still returning to the same problems. So I am boldly saying, lets try a forced resurrection  :o

 :-??
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Arkady on September 19, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
"mugen hatred" is what we could call it? there was just too much history with admin for it to continue, alexqiz had a very hard job taking the reigns, but i gotta hand it to him, he maned up and did the work, plus no love lost between volz an alex there for sure, but all said and done, mmv existed as a fk u to cvg, from the get go the site was managed well and was new and exciting, and pumped out new gear, (rough as it was) to tell you the truth i followed volz's lead, he could get all the connections and help needed to get whatever you wip started into reallity, he worked hard at that and promoted us all at cvg and mmv well, for that automatic respect, i create now coz he help me do so, and the guys i work with and know~ same thing
he was bashed constantly and still stood up, mugen sites has just way too many haters

there is just too much blame and pride thrown around, i dont think its possible for me to be bothered being part of "site", after leaving cvg, starting @ mmv, then watching admin ruin creativity for prides sake, maybe best to ask alan joestar what we should rename mmv to?
(im sure its not pleasant)

thats all i gotta say on this subject, and im sure there will be quote on quote, breaking out the bigger trump, but im ova all this, lets just make mugen
 
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 19, 2012, 09:48:37 PM
ok but

this is cvg mugen, not cvg united  .V.!

We could keep the name and start fresh, no one will control your posting either, volz will be there, not to mod or admin anyone, but he'll be there. He wants to bring cvg back, i do as well as many others, but everyone has a problem with whose runnign the show. So i am cutting off the head of show runners and leaving it to the fans, no limitations, post whatever.  \-/o
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Snakebyte on September 19, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
We all know who brought 'cancer' to MMV... and it wasn't volz.

I'll just pretty much echo everything Arkady said. Volz caused a lot of problems but to blame all this on him is going a bit far. Not that it's Alex's fault either... like he said, one person can't really carry a site.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on September 19, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
hmmm not mgonna agree with anyone or even disagree. but just say a lil something cause i miss the peoples when it was CVG United.

The word "United : no matter what new site is made has to be a key factor in how its gonna function. everyone has to be united together with a goal to help each other. do away with all the old issues and just as well with whoever is in charge... leave out the politics. Its about having fun and having fun making things together. I am cool with alot of the cvg peoples and i for one am sad to see all this that happened at a time i was away for a minute.  really it was a minute. lol but seriously, the cvg family should have always been family to each other and leave out the egos, the biasness and if your gonna work together on projects, be cordial and understanding about things.

 No matter what the new sites be called wether The Gaming Panda, cvg united 2, MMV, Crusader , The Frick and Frack show...whatever.. it wont be standing if you guys arent united . My bros and good friends the fighting and issues really need to be done away with and start as a team of good friends and keep that passion for creating you guys all have..but most of all ..work together. Alot of talent is there. No one is better in my eyes than anyone , just each have different skills with different levels of them  and can all be used to make a great products. very great. I really wanna see everyone on the teams get together and work hard and have fun together ...and bring back dang CHAT!!!!  i miss the fun and laughs and sneak peeks of stuff we all showed off.  I wish you guys the best of getting it straight but more importantly.. just do it and keep it working....together.. united my bros and friends. we are Mugen Fam.  :thumbsup:

love all you guys....no homo. lol  :D
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: YoungSamurai5 on September 19, 2012, 10:51:22 PM
yea im with lando on this one lol. you always speak the truth man.  :Terry
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: mon-el on September 19, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
hmmm not mgonna agree with anyone or even disagree. but just say a lil something cause i miss the peoples when it was CVG United.

The word "United : no matter what new site is made has to be a key factor in how its gonna function. everyone has to be united together with a goal to help each other. do away with all the old issues and just as well with whoever is in charge... leave out the politics. Its about having fun and having fun making things together. I am cool with alot of the cvg peoples and i for one am sad to see all this that happened at a time i was away for a minute.  really it was a minute. lol but seriously, the cvg family should have always been family to each other and leave out the egos, the biasness and if your gonna work together on projects, be cordial and understanding about things.

 No matter what the new sites be called wether The Gaming Panda, cvg united 2, MMV, Crusader , The Frick and Frack show...whatever.. it wont be standing if you guys arent united . My bros and good friends the fighting and issues really need to be done away with and start as a team of good friends and keep that passion for creating you guys all have..but most of all ..work together. Alot of talent is there. No one is better in my eyes than anyone , just each have different skills with different levels of them  and can all be used to make a great products. very great. I really wanna see everyone on the teams get together and work hard and have fun together ...and bring back dang CHAT!!!!  i miss the fun and laughs and sneak peeks of stuff we all showed off.  I wish you guys the best of getting it straight but more importantly.. just do it and keep it working....together.. united my bros and friends. we are Mugen Fam.  :thumbsup:

love all you guys....no homo. lol  :D

You said all the Right things man!   :thumbsup:

Preach it brother!
 :w00t: :w00t:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: theFuTur3 on September 20, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
wow i see everyone is shook up about the whole CVG thing...i didnt know there was a problem when i left...except the bad blood between me n TOPS at the time...i admit it is sad to see the CVG name gone and alot of people i grew found of leave but hey thats life...i dont know what volz did in the past...all i know is he welcomed me as a friend to CVG and tried to get n TOPS cool again but that was  failed mission...sorry to say but i kinda knew MMV was gonna last long due to what it was created for and it was brought to the net...but to lose CVG is tradegic but its nothing to get bent over...

we are all here cuz we like comics and video games so lets just stick with what we know and make fun characters...

Alexziq i feel for u cuz u got the short end of the stick but hey u still got your works and projects and u post them when u want...whereever u want man...dont let that hard work go to waste is all im sayin...
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: warecus on September 20, 2012, 02:38:10 AM
we should all come together and help each other out to do what capcom refuses to do.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Rage on September 20, 2012, 04:13:49 AM
all good things come to an end. I'm with lando, all good words said so far. we just gotta pick up the pieces and move on. sure CVG had its ups and downs. but I gotta say the place really became quite nice. They  have my respect. CVG time past that's all that happened. you can't blame nobody. you can try and point fingers but it don't help. it was human nature for to come to an end. we as humans we always fight long as we exist they will be war. you have those at fight for selfish reasons like control and power. even those that are just negative just to be negative. but even those that seek peace war as well.  in order to get peace you have to fight for it. it's a yen and yang scenario. unless we continue to grow it will happen here too. as I complain about the new members here being negative. I was once that way. and I had someone trying to calm me down. now I'm in the other role. just the way things work. without that balance things collapse. and that's what happened to CVG. so in all all we can do is learn from our mistakes. and continue to grow.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 20, 2012, 08:17:45 AM
Well I see that everyone really wants to move on, it really must have been an ordeal to have to split, die, come back, wait, and change. After all that i guess I can understand why everyone just wants to move on from here. I guess I was one of the lucky ones to not have seen the carnage while I was on a mugen break :-w

I suppose I should move on to. I do sorta have a few wips to get done  :)

 :D

Well I guess I am gonna get back to work then, no matter what everyone does, we will still create, forum or no forum and projects, it's our duty!  ::salute::
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 20, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Well look as I told Zvitor in chat yesterday, I simply was moody and had my pizzypants on. So no one should take me personally.

Vol said at MMV that I had it in for him from day one. Thats very true. I didnt like the way he snuck around and PM'd everyone at IMT, SonicX, Scruffy, and everywhere else trying to recruit other teams talent. Plus DT was a close friend and DT had issues with Volz.

Now that said many of us joined anyway because we needed a change, and Spooky seemed to have a vision. But from the beginning we always had issues. He omitted things I said in his mugen interviews, then was making deals with a certain Mugen Nutjob we all know whom I wont mention by name. Which to me was a slap in the face since this guy hates everyone so why even deal with him, and give him attention? It's disrespect to your teamates.

Then he released stuff of mine at MFG without my consent not 1, but 3 times after I asked him not to after the 1st time. Doing that is not going to make you popular with me. Some of you dont get it I know but that can cause issues.

But what he never said was DESPITE that I never made it personal. I forgave, I did craploads of work to help make his events successful even when he wouldnt name  my B-Day events by the names I intended to give them. He always turned them into something else. MY B-day event mind you!

Did that keep me from delivering? Busting my hump, sacrificing time from my job, and family? I still did it for him.

And yes from day 1 I rode his @zz that Crisis needed a template? Who did it for him?

Me, with AA250, and BDC being equal on that. Plus O'illusionista

Yes I rode him that characters needed converted to that template, and there needed to be a screenpack. We wanted to make a game, not get as many characters made as possible.

So Trex was going to make Crisis for him, and AA250 and I had his back. We had a screenpack in mind, and Trexrell offered to do the brunt of character conversion with AA250, and I helping make sure they were done properly, and bug free. I was going to do a few myself.

All Trex wanted was to base it around existing forum characters, and limit the amount of borrowed characters, and use homegrown work. Volz would not budge on changing his game plot even on the smallest detail even though he was not going to do any of this work himself.

So basically he pizzed off the one guy who was going to make the project happen for him to the point where Trex looked at other options. I admit I was hurt that Trex, Yin, and Esn wanted to look outside of CVG, and we argued, and they left. People I believed in, and worked closely with. So they stepped down leaving me AA250, and BDC to drive the ship.

So yeah CVG left a bad taste in my mouth. And yes we dont want to associate ourselves with a name of a team that pretty much died beginning of the year.

I feel bad saying crap about Volz since it's over, and in reality he did things that he may not have been aware of the overall consequence, plus I dont like kicking someone when theyre down. Empathy is why I put up with things I didnt like for a long time. I guess I am still doing it.

In the end I didnt oust him, Spook did in a failed attempt to keep Trexrell, and Yin, because we were all close. It just ended up bad. We were in a situation where either Trex, or Volz was going to go.

Imagine if someone said heres a gun, now you have to shoot one of your brothers, you have no choice. Thats pretty much what we had to do. It turned out to be heaping helping of suck for everyone.

So sorry for the wikipedia history lesson, but I hope this explains a lil bit why we wanted a fresh start. I am feeling better about it. I am going to stick around try to help promote Trex's Role playing game, and now were looking for a new team name for a new beginning.

Help us pick a new Mugen team name, and join us if youre looking for a team, were hiring.

And if anyone from IMT wants to promote project at CC.com all old grudges are gone. We can arrange sections for other teams and forums to promote, and Cyanide I will see if we can get the lurking thing, and guest views taken out.

dont forget to help us pick a new name!

http://crusadercast.com/index.php?topic=12680.msg126310;topicseen#new (http://crusadercast.com/index.php?topic=12680.msg126310;topicseen#new)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: volzzilla on September 20, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
i've had enough of you trashing me behind my back again and twisting the truth. that kind of behavior why i left mugen. no bigger twist of the truth came from that arhimanes mugen guild thing, but you really came close.

the DT thing, completely leave out that the guy was spreading crazy rumors about me. all because he was bitter fredgerd decided to take up spooky's offer (yes, he was the one that made the official offer to come to cvg to work on his own spawn) than work with DT's ER edit of spawn)

that bit about the mugen interview. you make it sound like i left out a ton of info. what i left out was a derogatory comment about scruffy you made. and i was brand new in mugen at the time hearing how certain people at scruffy would ban for even the littlest slight. and for all i knew i would have been banned for repeating your insult. and i told you that at the time too, but you wanted to ignore how i could have gotten in trouble and kept that chip on the shoulder about me.

also left out pertinent info regarding posting your chars at other places. when me and spooky began cvg, he gave me a directive to get people to cvg.

there no better way to do that then post a release. i posted 1 char at the guild, joker. i liked the char, many people liked the char. but all that mattered to you was the few people that would bee-otch about it at the guild. you asked me to not post at the guild again, and i did not.

i also posted bane at infantry. again under the original directive. many people came to cvg, many people liked the char. but again, all that mattered was the few people that would complain about the char. you were butthurt apparently by those comments so much that you tried flat out tried a "lets get volzzilla kicked out of cvg" movement.

from that moment on, i could say the sky was blue and you'd argue that it was instead green. obviously being figurative there. but it is no lie that you'd constantly throw out the threat, "i just can't agree with him, maybe i should leave cvg"

so then i walked around on eggshells all the time thinking if you left cvg, everyone would blame me. i felt like i was carrying a live grenade for almost two yrs. one that finally went off when i was away from cvg when you made that threat again for the 12th time.

so your comment about it coming down to me or trex was a flat out lie. its on record, i saw it for myself where you said, "i had him kicked out or i was leaving". yea, spooky pulled the trigger, but at your insistence. and that came after i had already voluntarily decided to move into an absentee like role as i was just tired of it all.

also left out, trex had decided to leave before anyway. you would know that better than anyone, you planned to leave with him that new forum was built in mid february and you created an account in early march and did all kinds of legends project stuff for it.

another flat out lie, you never gave any suggested names for when you'd do your birthday thing. you just said i'm releasing so and so around this time. prove you suggested theme names. i want you to go to the admin section and look it up and repost. or are you just bitter that "preview week" and "end of summer blow out" weren't named, "alex's b-day celebration"?

you also act like every was great with me and trexrell up to when he made that comment to fundamentally change crisis project. he literally told me he had been harboring animosity at me ever since the iron patriot release (jan 2011). blamed me for it getting released and looking bad. while i'll admit it was not the greatest character at that time, all i was really guilty of was supporting a friend and teammate. anderson was adamant about wanting to release.

that same support the same i ever gave to anyone at cvg. i was a fierce proponent of anyone and everyone there. did i get it lame arguements over that belief? yes. was that behavior then twisted worse than it was? yes. but i'm not someone that backs down to bullies or doesnt defend friends.

and MMV wasn't supposed to be a big F U to cvg. it was what it was, people leaving to make a new attempt. and it maybe would not have happened had that split not been made worse. i was on the fence about beginning a new place. i told tops in private if staying at cvg is what is best for his project, then so be it. but me being forced out like i was tipped that scale. i didnt want to leave mugen like that. after that happened, i persuaded him and it wasn't hard given he had his own cvg trouble. until that happened, anything new was a 50/50 thing.

posting now, but editing to get the word out there sooner.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 20, 2012, 11:01:02 AM
i've had enough of you trashing me behind my back again and twisting the truth. that kind of behavior why i left mugen. no bigger twist of the truth came from that arhimanes mugen guild thing, but you really came close.

the DT thing, completely leave out that the guy was spreading crazy rumors about me. all because he was bitter fredgerd decided to take up spooky's offer (yes, he was the one that made the official offer to come to cvg to work on his own spawn) than work with DT's ER edit of spawn)

that bit about the mugen interview. you make it sound like i left out a ton of info. what i left out was a derogatory comment about scruffy you made. and i was brand new in mugen at the time hearing how certain people at scruffy would ban for even the littlest slight. and for all i knew i would have been banned for repeating your insult. and i told you that at the time too, but you wanted to ignore how i could have gotten in trouble and kept that chip on the shoulder about me.

posting now, but editing to get the word out there sooner.

It wasnt derogatory about Scruffy, I said I got into Mugen because they banned me but a least you admit you were kissing up to them by leaving out that fact

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there no better way to do that then post a release. i posted 1 char at the guild, joker. i liked the char, many people liked the char. but all that mattered to you was the few people that would bee-otch about it at the guild. you asked me to not post at the guild again, and i did not.

No you flamed out there, and you did it again with Batman Beyond, and then with Bane at MI after I told you not to the 1st time each time getting into a huge drama with MFG. Plus it wasnt your character to release! Why dont you get that? thats 3x buddy, just like I said

Everything I said was the truth


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so your comment about it coming down to me or trex was a flat out lie. its on record, i saw it for myself where you said, "i had him kicked out or i was leaving". yea, spooky pulled the trigger, but at your insistence. and that came after i had already voluntarily decided to move into an absentee like role as i was just tired of it all.

Your bold face lying. I never insisted Spooky to ban you. I offered to step down as an administrator, and Spook chose to demote you. You can make up all the stories you want in your own mind, but it doesn't make it true. I never once said you should be demoted. NEVER did I say  I had you kicked out. Just a flat out lie

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i also posted bane at infantry. again under the original directive. many people came to cvg, many people liked the char. but again, all that mattered was the few people that would complain about the char. you were butthurt apparently by those comments so much that you tried flat out tried a "lets get volzzilla kicked out of cvg" movement.

Nope it wasnt that at all. You assume that, because you have no accountability. You do things people dont like, and dont understand why, instead of respecting people wishes

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so then i walked around on eggshells all the time thinking if you left cvg, everyone would blame me. i felt like i was carrying a live grenade for almost two yrs. one that finally went off when i was away from cvg when you made that threat again for the 12th time.

This is true. I did threaten to leave over, and over. Because you wouldnt respect my wishes. I am the one creating, who are you to dictate anything?

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also left out, trex had decided to leave before anyway. you would know that better than anyone, you planned to leave with him that new forum was built in mid february and you created an account in early march and did all kinds of legends project stuff for it.

I didnt plan to leave at all, why do you think I got banned from Atlas, because I found out they were pretty much leaving and got into a fight over it. I was told it was a place to get away from YOU!

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another flat out lie, you never gave any suggested names for when you'd do your birthday thing. you just said i'm releasing so and so around this time. prove you suggested theme names. i want you to go to the admin section and look it up and repost. or are you just bitter that "preview week" and "end of summer blow out" weren't named, "alex's b-day celebration"?

Nope 2 times I wanted it to be my B-Day Hang over, and each time you just went a named it whatever you felt like. The 1st year you seemed to downplay my B-day all together in favor of some end of summer crap.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 20, 2012, 11:03:36 AM
You take no accountability for anything.

And I dont talk behind your back I tell this same story in public to everyone. You can ask just about anyone
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Acey on September 20, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Not here, not like this. Take it to PM.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 20, 2012, 11:09:39 AM
I understand Acey.

But I have nothing to say by PM.

You cats are free to lock if you wish


He is lying in these posts below V

He did post Batman, and Beyond at MFG. I had to diffuse the whole situation of you fighting with gill over it because YOU caouldnt handle them griping. I never got into fights with them it was always YOU.  And He also got into it with MI over bane, and we got into a huge fight about that. Jmaxx almost quit over it

Nope I never insulted scruffy. I simply told the story of how I told scruffy that people shouldnt be upset over over batman being discontinued, and that someone else may make one, and I was banned for it. Not once was there a direct insult. And you continued to suck up, and kiss up to magus offering to release Batgirl there for X-Mas without any mention of Legends. sticking it to me again as you always did
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: volzzilla on September 20, 2012, 11:38:33 AM
yea, you'd love for it to be locked after you got your last word in, huh

if you didnt want the truth getting out there, maybe you should not have been telling all these things to people in public behind my back. and its behind my back because i was gone.

and truth? you totally twisted a ton of the truth. anyone want the truth, read my original post above.

and who mentioned banning? i mentioned kicked off team cvg.

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I never insisted Spooky to ban you. I offered to step down as an administrator, and Spook chose to demote you.

how else was he supposed to take anything? especially after you make that comment for the bazillionth time about you leaving at a time when i was offline for the bulk of 2months. and after i had made a post in admin about moving to an absentee role.

and wrong about batman beyond. i never posted that char on infantry or guild. go ahead and look up my topics at both plz.

also i told you to prove it about your wanting your birthday called certain things. look it up and post about it. but it already prove one thing. such a small thing and you want to get all bent out of shape about it all because you always wanted to fight against me at every step you could.

and finally, you are mistaking the mugen interview again. you had an insult of them. i left that out because i was new and didnt want to be blamed due to knowing there was a rep for a quick ban trigger there.

the batgirl scruffy thing was an attempt at trying to colab with them on a multi community event. was the DL link there? no. it was a topic to get people to see it there and come to cvg. but magus blew that up due to the connection to you. but it easier for you to blame me, like you did for everything you possibly could.

edit: ok, i did post beyond at infantry, i had forgotten about it due to it had zero drama. but you made it sound like it loaded full of people complaining about the char. and again, i was under spookys directive to get people to cvg. you dont like the directive, take it up with him. but again, its always been easier for you to make anything and everything about me worse..
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: trexrell44 on September 20, 2012, 12:40:14 PM
CVG crew still together just in another form umm. ........ :lies:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Acey on September 20, 2012, 12:50:18 PM
Alex, Vol, I know you both feel the need to defend yourself, and you think who ever talks louder will win, but honestly no one is as concerned about this as much as you two are, just drop it please. Both have been moderated.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Zox- on September 20, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
Is Zox name free? Zox name is unbaned right?

tried to take name Zoks...
Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
This ban is not set to expire.

I give up, fu%#k this.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 20, 2012, 02:57:36 PM
Alex, Vol, I know you both feel the need to defend yourself, and you think who ever talks louder will win, but honestly no one is as concerned about this as much as you two are, just drop it please. Both have been moderated.

No offense taken Acey. I'd do the same thing in your shoes.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja on September 20, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
You don't need to make an account named Zox... u could just have another user name! C:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: AxKeeper on September 20, 2012, 03:57:45 PM
I personally feel it's good to get things out in the open, PMing leaves a lot of questions unanswered and only results in more problems.

But I guess Acey has a point to, we tend to never solve the problem at times and it just keeps on going.  :-??

I am just glad I can still move on, I wish Alexziq and Volzilla the best of luck, I wish we could have all gotten along and continued to work together in harmony but anyway, it's time to move on.  #:-S
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: esn23 on September 21, 2012, 03:34:50 AM
LMAO this topic is funny :)  But cvg is not dead its called crusador cast and its still going very strong all spooky did was update the site so it wasnt just a mugen site but a video game site.. So nothing changed but the name.  I dont know about mmv though i dont even have an account there :)
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja on September 21, 2012, 05:04:38 AM
Well MMV is still alive lol, and I heard that Snakebyte will take over it, then maybe it will be worth making an account there, as long as V will be gone lol
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Snakebyte on September 21, 2012, 05:25:27 AM
o_O What.

*backs awaaaaaaaaaay from the dramasite, sprites in the corner  ???*
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: C.R.O.M.-Mugen-Ninja on September 21, 2012, 05:32:18 AM
xD Sorry, I must have been missunderstanding then lol
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on September 21, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
Well I made a mistake in airing things out in public at a nuetral forum. That was my bad. I have these meltdowns now and again as most people that know me will tell you. Ill drop my derogatory posts if v agrees to do the same.

Humans are creatures of emotion and what one person feels passionate about may not be the way someone else looks at it. Nobody won anything in any of the drama over the past year. There were only losers. Kinda like baseballs central division in the american league.
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: -Zox- on September 21, 2012, 10:25:33 AM
Im not interested in this forum if volzilla is not there.

 :lies:
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: Worksa8 on September 22, 2012, 11:39:16 AM
So something did happen, I'm not crazy. A lot can change in a few years...
Title: Re: RIP CVG????
Post by: shastab24 on September 25, 2012, 12:56:15 AM
I'd thought it was something I did and didn't know when CVG said I was banned when going to the site.  I finally came to this site today and was relieved at first that I could click a link and actually access the Crusader Cas site.  Then I tried to login and it said I was banned.

The question I have is really whether I was actually banned.  I was never really anything but a lurker, generally jus around to grab characters when released, but I did use the site.  Like this, I don't think that's an option anymore.  Considering I do like the amount of superhero characters created by CVG (since I only go for superheroes), this is very annoying for me.  Is it a lack of carry-over, or was I actually banned from CVG?  And if the latter, I would want to know why.  Considering how little I post, I may have broken forum rules without realizing it.  The only thing I can think, though, is that I posted some links before all this happened (to my webcomic and some other ones I read) and may have been too excessive.
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