Post by: Yuri Jacobs on January 13, 2012, 07:31:36 PM
Some of the biggest sites in the world are participating: Reddit, Mozilla. And some others may join (e.g. a leading Micro Blogging platform and a popular collaboratively-written encyclopedia), but they need a nudge. If we can get them to join this will be EPIC. Click the link on below:
Fight for the Future! (http://act.fightforthefuture.org/page/m/2e1f2084/1d1915fd/71e267e0/f863ee6/1814049025/VEsH/)
On January 24, 2012, Congress will vote to pass Internet censorship in the Senate, even though the vast majority of Americans are opposed. We need to kill the bill - PIPA in the Senate and SOPA in the House - to protect our rights to free speech, privacy, and prosperity. We need Internet companies to follow Reddit's lead and stand up for the web, as we Internet users are doing every day.
Post by: O Ilusionista on January 13, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
http://wordpress.org/news/2012/01/help-stop-sopa-pipa/ (http://wordpress.org/news/2012/01/help-stop-sopa-pipa/)
Post by: ATiC3 on January 14, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
Post by: Kriven on January 14, 2012, 10:09:19 AM
Why will doing exactly what they want to do stop them from passing the bill?
Post by: SanjiSasuke on January 14, 2012, 10:30:24 AM
Post by: Kriven on January 14, 2012, 12:14:29 PM
Post by: ExeLord on January 14, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 14, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
Power to the people!
And other such things!
But seriously I do wish you all luck with this. I know I wouldn't support this rubbish law
Post by: Kriven on January 14, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
Post by: O Ilusionista on January 14, 2012, 01:51:41 PM
So will infinity participate in this action?
good question
Post by: JDubbs on January 14, 2012, 03:07:44 PM
*goes to play Serj Tankian*
Post by: ExeLord on January 14, 2012, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: Serj Tankian - Saving Us
You're tearing us,
You're tearing us,
You're breaking us,
Breaking us,
You're killing us,
Killing us,
You're saving us...
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 14, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: ExeLord on January 14, 2012, 03:17:10 PM
Just goes to show why I really don't give a flying crap about politicsAnd that's why their hands are free to do what they want to...
Post by: JDubbs on January 14, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
And that's why their hands are free to do what they want to...
^^(PM)^
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 14, 2012, 03:25:49 PM
Has any represtatives from any state said anything to Congress about this bill? Someone has had to say something by now?
Post by: Enso on January 14, 2012, 05:03:02 PM
I have some questions about SOPA:
Who owns the internet (according to the hacking group, Anonymous)? What made companies support SOPA? What's the reason for SOPA to be passed? Does SOPA not care about education?
I'm not trying to sound like I'm support SOPA, but I wonder why. If we are fighting against SOPA, we are not just doing for us, but we are doing this for the world.
Post by: Z on January 14, 2012, 05:11:48 PM
The Whole point of SOPA Is to shut and take down anyone who Pirates or commits Copyrights infringement..even including using your favorite music say in a tribute video or amv... You get fined or face jail time(up to 5 years)..even small things like that they will take serious action upon you.
Also Including blacklisting and shutting down any site that violates that law.. and the webmaster and anyone involved also facing criminal charges. This bill is too extreme and pointless because they are fighting a losing battle and now plan to nuke the internet at the expense of those who had nothing to do with it to begin with.
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 14, 2012, 05:34:34 PM
SOPA Targets Pirating of Movies,Games, Music, and Etc..
The Whole point of SOPA Is to shut and take down anyone who Pirates or commits Copyrights infringement..even including using your favorite music say in a tribute video or amv... You get fined or face jail time(up to 5 years)..even small things like that they will take serious action upon you.
Couldn't drawings of characters also fall into this as well? If it's true then the Mugen community as a whole could be affected on a major scale. Heck if it is true, then even trying to make a character from scratch from a movie or comic or game could also get you thrown into jail or at least a fine.
Post by: JDubbs on January 14, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
Couldn't drawings of characters also fall into this as well? If it's true then the Mugen community as a whole could be affected on a major scale. Heck if it is true, then even trying to make a character from scratch from a movie or comic or game could also get you thrown into jail or at least a fine.
pretty much. But I doubt it would really affect Mugen since no one is really robbing Capcom or those other companies of money. If anything, they see it as fan fiction or something to that degree.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 14, 2012, 05:47:33 PM
Post by: JDubbs on January 14, 2012, 05:56:39 PM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 14, 2012, 05:58:36 PM
Post by: ExeLord on January 14, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Why so? If you used character made by someone else... You should burn in hell, 'coz you stealing potential profit(like if they ever made that themselves)! Or if your character is similar to other character made by someone famous. For example unfamous Tanya Grotter case where J. K. Rowling successfully sued Dmitri Yemets for copying... I fear that any ever made character will suffer Voldemort's fate - will be the ones who's names couldn't be spoken...
I just feel one major flaw behind all copyright thing. More companies produces - more things you can't do, more things you can't use without permission and/or money, etc. That way is just wrong...
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 14, 2012, 06:05:24 PM
So for the sake of argument, a fan made poster for a Nintendo vs Capcom idea is less likely to get them up in a fuss than an actual fan game of Nintendo vs CapcomIf they find reason to, they can press charges againt who ever posted or made the poster.
Post by: ExeLord on January 14, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
Post by: O Ilusionista on January 14, 2012, 06:42:33 PM
This is why the American system of government is a failure. We elect people that are supposed to have our interests in mind, but they rarely do. Acts like this and NDAA prove that country clearly has no intention of being there for its people, instead wanting the people to be there for them.
If this makes your mind lighter, this happens in many other countries. Here is the same crap...
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 14, 2012, 06:50:57 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/14/the-white-house-comes-out-against-sopa/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/01/14/the-white-house-comes-out-against-sopa/)
Well its good to see at least the white house has made a comment on the whole mess
Post by: ExeLord on January 14, 2012, 07:37:39 PM
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103759/not-a-big-deal (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103759/not-a-big-deal)
And I don't have ANY trust in Obama caring for people or anyone in White House is. It's more likely they care on making it slide with less possible opposition and then, when everything settles, most people forgot about it... Bang! New additions, which are bit modified ones that were stripped to let it slide in. It reminds me of tactics used by viruses... And Ilu is right, that's not only America, it happens everywhere in every direction - military, education, medicine, etc. Just this one have big resonance because it touches not only huge amount of people, but it touches their last relief. Touches with death touch...
Post by: SanjiSasuke on January 14, 2012, 07:40:54 PM
Post by: Kriven on January 14, 2012, 09:28:40 PM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 14, 2012, 10:40:33 PM
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 14, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 15, 2012, 12:43:09 AM
Well, they never said the Anti-Christ would come as a human ...
I doubt that the Anti Christ would be a peice of paper that takes away human rights. Though I'd say its part of his arival.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 15, 2012, 12:46:21 AM
I doubt that the Anti Christ would be a peice of paper that takes away human rights.You never know. Stuff like this is hard to predict
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 15, 2012, 01:26:43 AM
You never know. Stuff like this is hard to predictYeah, but we should just be ready instead of trying to figure out what it will be.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on January 15, 2012, 11:57:03 PM
Post by: Slivern on January 16, 2012, 03:01:21 AM
Post by: Axel Foley on January 16, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
(http://plus4chan.org/b/baw/src/132679612815.jpg)
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 16, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
Post by: Kriven on January 17, 2012, 12:49:43 AM
Post by: SanjiSasuke on January 17, 2012, 08:14:28 AM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on January 17, 2012, 07:33:20 PM
Post by: Slivern on January 17, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
If you guys are going to shut down, don't shut down just yet; You guys need to see these links.
http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/ (http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/)
http://www.filmon.com/cbsyousuck/ (http://www.filmon.com/cbsyousuck/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc#)
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on January 18, 2012, 12:01:29 AM
http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-esa-petition-and-boycott-e3 (http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-esa-petition-and-boycott-e3)
Post by: Rage on January 18, 2012, 02:50:10 AM
I have more information regarding this. And not only that, it would seem this situation is about more than the internet itself.go figure 8=|
If you guys are going to shut down, don't shut down just yet; You guys need to see these links.
http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/ (http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com/)
http://www.filmon.com/cbsyousuck/ (http://www.filmon.com/cbsyousuck/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc#)
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on January 18, 2012, 02:54:06 AM
Post by: Enso on January 18, 2012, 03:32:03 AM
EDIT: Is IMT going to be shut down when there's gonna be protest going on?
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 18, 2012, 04:03:35 AM
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57329001-281/how-sopa-would-affect-you-faq/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57329001-281/how-sopa-would-affect-you-faq/)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57360665-503544/sopa-pipa-what-you-need-to-know/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57360665-503544/sopa-pipa-what-you-need-to-know/)
Yeah CNet has to make themselves look like everyone and try to help.
The nerve they have, hell even CBS news...
Crap, I just broke my controller for real
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on January 18, 2012, 08:53:36 AM
While I definately support efforts to stop file sharing, and piracy in terms of music, gaming, and comic books.
(sorry but were not entitled to things obtained for free illegally)
This wolf in sheeps clothing of a bill will end up hurting the sites that promote artists more than it will protect any artists.
It's really a a poorly diguised bill aimed at censoring the internet.
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 18, 2012, 08:57:18 AM
Or her
Post by: volzzilla on January 18, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
plz sign it
Post by: Acey on January 18, 2012, 10:26:34 AM
So is Sinhra, due to the SOPA situation and it's blacked out in protest.
EDIT: Is IMT going to be shut down when there's gonna be protest going on?
IMT is not going to be involved with any active interent demonstration. If the admin team was worried about SOPA actually passing in the U.S. then we would react.
I believe our stance on creative freedom and sharing content and information is pretty apparent based on our history.
Edit: Also, not to downplay the actions of Wikipedia and others, but I do not wish to close our forums of communication and free speech in order to protest for free speech. I find that as a conflict. Having Wikipedia close it's doors for a day makes sense since they are one of the most popular websites and eveeryone who tries to visit today will be made aware of the issue. Closing a discussion forum defeats the purpose. In the past IMT has been shut down due to the imoral actions of others and at this point we will leave our doors open and they will never close for anything short of force.
Post by: Rage on January 18, 2012, 10:41:50 AM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 18, 2012, 10:42:34 AM
Good! cause then i wont get to practice my insanely long free speeches at IMT if here closes for a day. i am a Speech Junkie! :D :thumbsup:
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on January 18, 2012, 10:57:10 AM
online petition by google: https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/ (https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/)
plz sign it
I like this petition personally because it's statement says to end piracy, not liberty.
It's telling the government we get that piracy cant continue, but were not supporting a vague bill that can be used to big brother the web.
Post Merge: January 18, 2012, 11:07:57 AM
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/01/17/sopa-comic-books/ (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/01/17/sopa-comic-books/)
Shame on Marvel, Image, and DC for supporting this.
Glad Dark Horse, and Oni press are standing against it.
Already boycot DC Comics, guess I have to boycot Marvel too.
Post by: Acey on January 18, 2012, 11:16:38 AM
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on January 18, 2012, 11:51:47 AM
I see why Marvel support this, anyone can download all of the comicbooks released every Wednesday, every week, always for free thanks to torrent and pirates. Marvel Comic and DC Comics are dying because of pirates. They are too much comics guys and too little business guys to be able to think up their own solutions to the problems.
I see why Marvel would be against piracy. I dont see why they support this.
A lot of artists are against piracy, but most know that is not what this is about so I cant forgive Marvels ignorance.
I can understand why musicians would be against piracy as well, but many have come out against SOPA, ang PIPA, and they have far more to lose than Marvel.
Most know that censoring the net is going to put more restrictions on the content they can release.
Most people against these bills are against piracy.
Post by: -Whiplash- on January 18, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
I see why Marvel support this, anyone can download all of the comicbooks released every Wednesday, every week, always for free thanks to torrent and pirates. Marvel Comic and DC Comics are dying because of pirates. They are too much comics guys and too little business guys to be able to think up their own solutions to the problems.
To be fair, some of us don't have a comic shop anywhere near us or a car or any money to spend.
???
Post by: Kriven on January 18, 2012, 12:37:02 PM
Post by: -Whiplash- on January 18, 2012, 12:44:54 PM
To be even more fair: If Marvel would put out product worth paying for, people would pay for it.
I wanted to subscribe to the new winter soldier comic... But I couldn't cause it's not on their site.
Post by: Acey on January 18, 2012, 12:54:52 PM
I wanted to subscribe to the new winter soldier comic... But I couldn't cause it's not on their site.
This is exactly the type of stuff I'm talking about when I say they are comic guys and not business guys. There are many things they can do differently that would make them more accessable to the public but all they think about is getting the next issue out.
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on January 18, 2012, 04:04:56 PM
To be fair, some of us don't have a comic shop anywhere near us or a car or any money to spend.
???
So if I cant afford an X-Box that would make it okay to steal one?
Not directing this at whiplash, but if youre against this because youre "pro-illegal download"
The petition is not a pro-piracy movement.
People are against this because of the abilities it will give the government to control, censor content on the web.
Post by: -Whiplash- on January 18, 2012, 04:22:59 PM
So if I cant afford an X-Box that would make it okay to steal one?
Not directing this at whiplash, but if youre against this because youre "pro-illegal download"
The petition is not a pro-piracy movement.
People are against this because of the abilities it will give the government to control, censor content on the web.
I see you're point... Does anyone know where I can buy Comics online? As I said, there is no comic store in my town and I have no car ATM.
I'm not against this because I've pirated stuff, I'm against this because this can affect stuff like fan-art, videos, and other things.
Post by: god of chaos on January 18, 2012, 04:29:27 PM
I'm not against this because I've pirated stuff, I'm against this because this can affect stuff like fan-art, videos, and other things.
[/quote] You can go to http://www.mycomicshop.com/ (http://www.mycomicshop.com/) http://www.dcbservice.com/index.aspx (http://www.dcbservice.com/index.aspx) http://www.instocktrades.com/newreleases (http://www.instocktrades.com/newreleases) some good sites and links to digital as well.
Post by: Founder of SonicX on January 18, 2012, 05:36:35 PM
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on January 19, 2012, 10:41:57 AM
13 senators dropped support of this including 11 Republicans, and 2 Democrats.
The bill is expected to collapse.
I know yesterday every person I know on facebook was rallying, and passing the pettition around so I believe thousands of signatures were obtained in addition to the millions that had already signed.
It was very exciting to see people coming together. Earlier this year in Ohio we were able to rally together to overturn John Kasich's anti-union bill SB5.
Adding this nationwide rally against the government really shows if people come together theres nothing they cant do!
"People shouldn't be affraid of their governments, governments should be affraid of their people"
-V
Post by: Kriven on January 19, 2012, 11:28:44 AM
Post by: .ALEXZIQ. on January 19, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
They arent even close to having the majority votes to pass this.
Not that people shouldnt stay vocal, but it's looking like it's a verge of collapse.
Post by: Rage on January 19, 2012, 11:59:19 AM
IMT is not going to be involved with any active interent demonstration. If the admin team was worried about SOPA actually passing in the U.S. then we would react.<_<|...| :DxDie :-??
Post by: overlordnick on January 19, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
IMT is not going to be involved with any active interent demonstration. If the admin team was worried about SOPA actually passing in the U.S. then we would react.
white out, thats some out-the-box thinkin... rotfl :DxDie
Post by: Dead Phoenix on January 19, 2012, 03:53:39 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/story?id=15396093#.Txh5u29SQsJ (http://abcnews.go.com/story?id=15396093#.Txh5u29SQsJ)
Post by: Acey on January 19, 2012, 04:31:58 PM
Abit >:-(-| but a file sharing site goes down
http://abcnews.go.com/story?id=15396093#.Txh5u29SQsJ (http://abcnews.go.com/story?id=15396093#.Txh5u29SQsJ)
U.S. has New Zealand arrest Megaupload corporate officers, interesting. Glad I used Sendspace.
Post by: SanjiSasuke on January 19, 2012, 04:48:58 PM
MEGAUpload: Well thats good, we'll do our best to beat piracy, but we can't get all of it, mm k?
US Government: We are shutting you down for hosting pirated user generated content.
Post by: overlordnick on January 19, 2012, 05:02:07 PM
aww sh** just got real
Post by: ExeLord on January 19, 2012, 05:33:23 PM
Just imagine how many people will work in scheme send-approve-available and how long would you wait needed file? If it would be automated process - then tons of mistakes.
By that logic all file-sharing services should be closed as potential piracy spreaders. That reminds me of stupid tax in Russia where 1% of price from everything that could play in some way media content - from cell phones to monitors and MP3 players, in public it's caled "tax for blank CDs". Yeah, that's right, you may use or don't use illegal content, that's doesn't matter, you pay for having potential to do so. Some companies like Samsung boycotting it like illegal(if they didn't - imagine their loses). Where goes money? It's different question, but not for supporting authors which needed that of course, they ashamed to even ask for cents, that should be given to them. (Same, but bit less violate laws are in other countries, check wikipedia article Private copying levy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy))
But taxes is taxes and closing file-share services is closing file-share services. If they are closed one by one(closing one leads to closing others and obviously makes it easier, western judicial system is precedent type - if someone sued for eating ice cream it makes precedent all other cases involving eating ice cream would be judged from position of previous experience and that could also lead to making law, hell, there is law for not having ice cream in your back pocket in some USA states!). So yeah, back on track - closing file-sharing systems will lead to moving content on own servers which will not only overload them because of lot people accesses, but also endanger sites themselves. And there's two ways - removing all that content from sites(for some it's obvious death) or wait and hope to survive more time until closed.
Sorry for long text :P
---
Hm, thinking of that... IM's have a lot of pirate potential. Not only sending files, but showing pirate content with your webcam or playing background song, so someone who hadn't bought it will hear... Avatars... Hm... Hell, with that logic playing song loud with your phone or mp3 player is act of piracy! o.O# Well, you see where it goes... and it's clinical.
Post by: ATiC3 on January 19, 2012, 06:02:49 PM
Post by: Spidermew on January 19, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Their going too far.
Ive been signing patitions and sending in letters though this groups site, ill give you a link and it will send a letter to the president addressing the seasure
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/megaupload_seizure/?akid=1155.98059._U8U_T&rd=1&t=2 (http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/megaupload_seizure/?akid=1155.98059._U8U_T&rd=1&t=2)
Flood them with messages!
Post by: overlordnick on January 19, 2012, 08:29:48 PM
all the megaupload sites are gone, man.
Their going too far.
Ive been signing patitions and sending in letters though this groups site, ill give you a link and it will send a letter to the president addressing the seasure
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/megaupload_seizure/?akid=1155.98059._U8U_T&rd=1&t=2 (http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/megaupload_seizure/?akid=1155.98059._U8U_T&rd=1&t=2)
Flood them with messages!
all long as someone brought this up i might as well open up mah roladex
white haus:
202-456-1111 -comments -operated by volenters
202-456-1414 -switchboard -operated by officals
202-456-2461 -forgot where this goes but i know thay aint giving it out anymore
Post by: Z on January 19, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 19, 2012, 10:12:36 PM
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on January 20, 2012, 01:02:26 AM
http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=2376524 (http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=2376524)I knew it was just a matter of time before they did something.
Post by: Slivern on January 20, 2012, 02:00:02 AM
Now I'm not trying to cause a stir; I'm just saying that maybe our world, the physical world, isn't going to end, but the otherworld we know as...the internet?
Post by: ExeLord on January 20, 2012, 02:25:37 AM
But anyways, they could attack any file-sharing service any time, I don't know why megaupload, but why now is pretty obvious - they opened 2nd(or 3rd if you count PIPA separate from SOPA) flank. It serves two purposes - it's own(making precedent and starting line of file-sharing services cases) and distracting, splitting attention. Now we have not only SOPA, but PIPA and this(not to mention while discussing this everyone already forgot about Mid-East actions, because it's kinda hotter topics). More stuff needs your attention - less time you have for each, at some point you will lose your ability to follow all at once and drop some.
Post by: Spidermew on January 20, 2012, 04:57:22 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1IfjlIM8fTKqnHyGOAWGApIuwhI2HfCNek1fE99NqE-4&pli=1
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 20, 2012, 05:06:36 PM
Long live free speech on the net!
Post by: Slivern on January 20, 2012, 07:07:12 PM
Post by: Enso on January 21, 2012, 06:51:53 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz)
Post by: ExeLord on January 23, 2012, 04:26:24 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement)
http://www.inquisitr.com/184832/acta-worse-than-sopa-and-classified-as-national-security-by-obama-and-bush/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/184832/acta-worse-than-sopa-and-classified-as-national-security-by-obama-and-bush/)
http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/3649-sopa-and-pipa-shelved-but-is-acta-unstoppable.html (http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/3649-sopa-and-pipa-shelved-but-is-acta-unstoppable.html)
Post by: Rage on January 23, 2012, 05:58:52 AM
SOPA, PIPA? No, now we have ACTA!you no the bad thing about this stuff? eventually 1 of these crazy bill will pass. Think about it. The internet is to much of a good thing. What happens to things that appear to good to be true? Yes....so enjoy the free net while you still can..... :(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement)
http://www.inquisitr.com/184832/acta-worse-than-sopa-and-classified-as-national-security-by-obama-and-bush/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/184832/acta-worse-than-sopa-and-classified-as-national-security-by-obama-and-bush/)
http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/3649-sopa-and-pipa-shelved-but-is-acta-unstoppable.html (http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/3649-sopa-and-pipa-shelved-but-is-acta-unstoppable.html)
Post by: ExeLord on January 23, 2012, 06:42:56 AM
I still hoping BRIC would take counter-act on that ACTA. I don't know how we would all live if that won't be stopped.
Video from second link article separately(for easy share):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlFyoEKV0dE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlFyoEKV0dE#)
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on January 23, 2012, 07:22:42 AM
....Anyway, really regret voting on Obama, I didn't see this coming. The first thing I thought when I saw all this copywrite infringing site babble was "How is this going to effect MUGEN" because it seems to me MUGEN would be a big target for this claptrap. I can only see this thing turning into a giant witch hunt on worst case scenario.
Might want to look at this vid which explains my worries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2ra0HwSbQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2ra0HwSbQ#)
Post by: ExeLord on January 23, 2012, 08:07:33 AM
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All sharing functionality on FileSonic is now disabled. Our service can only be used to upload and retrive files that you have uploaded personally.---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tD1yaE0GfQ#)
Post by: HyperVoiceActing on January 23, 2012, 08:45:16 AM
SOPA, PIPA? No, now we have ACTA!o.O#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement)
http://www.inquisitr.com/184832/acta-worse-than-sopa-and-classified-as-national-security-by-obama-and-bush/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/184832/acta-worse-than-sopa-and-classified-as-national-security-by-obama-and-bush/)
http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/3649-sopa-and-pipa-shelved-but-is-acta-unstoppable.html (http://www.i-programmer.info/news/81-web-general/3649-sopa-and-pipa-shelved-but-is-acta-unstoppable.html)
Post by: overlordnick on January 23, 2012, 09:09:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlFyoEKV0dE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlFyoEKV0dE#)>:-(-| -dey stole mah chicken \-/o:'(
Post by: ExeLord on January 23, 2012, 11:15:23 PM
Post by: Slivern on January 24, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
The first thing I thought when I saw all this copywrite infringing site babble was "How is this going to effect MUGEN" because it seems to me MUGEN would be a big target for this claptrap.
So true. I remember, If it was true, that Capcom, SNK, and other companies and I think one developer was concerned with their sprites being ripped and being used in MUGEN. Although it was settled that MUGEN is fan-art, that's also a big issue to me; Reubenkee's site could be closed down, and so would MFG, IMT, and MI.
Let's also not forget deviantArt. A LOT of fan-art, and there are pixel art stuff there too.
Post by: Laharl on January 25, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
watch this it explains everything you need to know about it. we need to join in
the fight to stop this its alredy taking effect in other countries!
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/end-acta-and-protect-our-right-privacy-internet/MwfSVNBK (https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/end-acta-and-protect-our-right-privacy-internet/MwfSVNBK)
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet/?ahMdEcb (https://secure.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet/?ahMdEcb)
sign these petitions against acta every signature helps you will have to make an account on the site to do it however.
THIS IS A SERIOUS THREAT OUR ISPS WILL WATCH OUR EVERY MOVE invading our privacy because it will be required by law for them to do so.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 25, 2012, 07:46:57 PM
Post by: SanjiSasuke on January 25, 2012, 08:26:26 PM
(PS, this is not English section! I didn't realize, sorry @^@ )
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 25, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
but i really know this goes further than all that as well cause it intervenes on more than just lobbyists for money gain but hurts them as well . That bill doesn't let them not be a target. It hurts EVERYONE. thats why i dont really pay these useless bills any attention. they never make sense as a whole. Anyone that passes it is retarded for not looking at the full scale of what it means.
Post by: SanjiSasuke on January 25, 2012, 09:54:49 PM
Post by: ExeLord on January 27, 2012, 09:29:39 AM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 27, 2012, 10:47:37 AM
I hate these stupid bills that make no sense! what they need to do is make a real Bill that severely punishes those companies that take and took bailout money and paid themselves instead of their hardworkers that help get them rich already! o.O# \-/o
Post by: Kriven on January 27, 2012, 01:13:58 PM
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what they need to do is make a real Bill that severely punishes those companies that take and took bailout money and paid themselves instead of their hardworkers that help get them rich already!
That's an entirely different issue.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on January 27, 2012, 01:22:46 PM
Post by: ExeLord on January 27, 2012, 02:11:04 PM
There's only 2 ways humanity may solve that problem:
1) agree with the fact, that there's no need in so many workers, make government plan both - needed researches and amount of what production needed and in which quantity(not business competition) and everyone must have his/her basic needs fulfilled regardless of his/her social status and having job or not(food, water, home, electricity, warmth). This way is principle of equalness.
2) simply reduce amount of people by any means. There goes "winner-loser" position, there goes degradation of education, bad health care, etc. This leads to dividing people in 3 classes - elite, slaves and small class of suppression. While elite owns all resources, all money, all luxury they using some to fund suppressing army, slaves in this situation are dealt with no regrets("they are slaves, not people" position).
What we see now with those SOPA, PIPA, ACTA thingies is just vivid example of this 2 ideologies conflict. Rich ones want's to enforce 2nd option and killing examples of 1st one. That's very old conflict, but it seems this time they want to set once and for all which position will dominate. It starts to be most impudent, rough and much easier to see...
Post by: Axel Foley on January 27, 2012, 04:30:38 PM