Post by: SolidZone 26 on March 09, 2011, 11:38:53 PM
Edit: I hope I didn't put this in the wrong area of the "General Discussion" board. I was thinking of putting this in the "SPAM Games" board, but I'm not sure if that's the right one. If it is, can someone move it for me?
Post by: Space (DCL) on March 09, 2011, 11:46:41 PM
I...just don't care...
Creators quit mainly because of others stealing their work or because of trolls and haters. One by one, each troll throws a fit about something and pray the creator quits. Its like osme sort of virus, only thing is, you cant get rid of em not matter what...
Flash Games? Well...I dont know...most Ive seen arent what I thought but some are cool...
Post by: Luigi-Master on March 10, 2011, 12:02:15 AM
Creators quit mainly because of others stealing their work or because of trolls and haters. One by one, each troll throws a fit about something and pray the creator quits. Its like osme sort of virus, only thing is, you cant get rid of em not matter what...
Or you could always not let it get to you. Once they realize that it strikes a chord, they won't stop. Just develop a "whatever" attitude to anything. Works wonders.
Post by: ATiC3 on March 10, 2011, 12:04:54 AM
I'm actually working on learning actionscript myself so I can make said games. Also Game Maker is a really really good start if you want to start making some games. There are some very helpful books to get you started with both game maker and flash games. For flash games, I recommend actionscript 3.0 books. For game maker.. there are more specific books for that program. If you want to get started with flash games though, I'll send ya a few books I'm learning from. I recommend starting with the first one first.
http://www.amazon.com/Foundation-Game-Design-Flash-Foundations/dp/1430218215/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299733435&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Foundation-Game-Design-Flash-Foundations/dp/1430218215/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299733435&sr=8-1)
(Might be a CS5 version.. idk..)
http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Game-Programming-University/dp/0789747324/ref=pd_sim_b_3 (http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Game-Programming-University/dp/0789747324/ref=pd_sim_b_3)
Post by: SolidZone 26 on March 10, 2011, 12:23:46 AM
Flash games = less trolls and haters...well to me really...Still, they should consider on what they are doing with their life. There's just better hobbies out there that are more fun and exciting. Like making comedy videos on YouTube, making music, making parodies of famous artists, etc.
I...just don't care...
Creators quit mainly because of others stealing their work or because of trolls and haters. One by one, each troll throws a fit about something and pray the creator quits. Its like osme sort of virus, only thing is, you cant get rid of em not matter what...
Flash Games? Well...I dont know...most Ive seen arent what I thought but some are cool...
To be honest, I don't steal and I am trying to make a character with that template you sent me months ago. With the time I have of my life because of studies, I can't. If I was in college (In a couple of months, I will be), that would make it more easier for me. But then I would have to update my characters to 1.0 because probably no one will use Winmugen anymore at that time. At least I'll try and make one before I quit.
Some flash games are good, but I'm talking about ones made by M.U.G.E.N creators. The first time they make it, it's too short. Once people play and finish it, they will never play it again. Just stating the facts.
You can make a career out of flash games, so it can be useful to switch to flash games.. though I think creators shouldnt up and quit making MUGEN creations.. I think one or two a year on the side is still good at the very least... Creating MUGEN creations has sort of died for me too.. I mean.. I'm working on a few things in secret still... but like.. I haven't done anything with this one creation in a few months because of life... and work.. lol.. I finally got a job last month. Companies (like game design, web design, and marketing companies) actually look for people who can make useful things like flash games.No other people think of using flash games this way. They quit and make them like move your character your playing as and survive or use strategic methods to move your army and defeat the enemy. I just wish more creators use flash game programs to make sprites for their characters/stages. That's what I would use them for.
I'm actually working on learning actionscript myself so I can make said games. Also Game Maker is a really really good start if you want to start making some games. There are some very helpful books to get you started with both game maker and flash games. For flash games, I recommend actionscript 3.0 books. For game maker.. there are more specific books for that program. If you want to get started with flash games though, I'll send ya a few books I'm learning from. I recommend starting with the first one first.
http://www.amazon.com/Foundation-Game-Design-Flash-Foundations/dp/1430218215/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299733435&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Foundation-Game-Design-Flash-Foundations/dp/1430218215/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299733435&sr=8-1)
(Might be a CS5 version.. idk..)
http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Game-Programming-University/dp/0789747324/ref=pd_sim_b_3 (http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Game-Programming-University/dp/0789747324/ref=pd_sim_b_3)
Post by: .Batzarro. on March 10, 2011, 12:35:18 AM
If you ask me though, you could probably apply what you learn through flash games much better out in the real world then you could with anything Mugen related. Can't say this for sure as I'm not a coder but still, chances are that.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 10, 2011, 12:59:08 AM
Flash games and mugen game creations both are hobbies, and with said both also can lead to careers depending on wether you wanna pursue one and then also if a company wants to take you . so you have to submit credible work.Companies look more close at flash games as they are intergratble to other hardware into the multimedia side of the coin. Mugen on the other side, is not cause you really can get sued for distribution of said mugen works. Flash games can be applied in apps and there are some people and companies that make and sponser flash type media. Its boils down to wether you wanna take that route. I have some close friends i grew up with and worked from the game indusry from long ago who still work for companies making games for a living and they do also make flash media wether games or video. So for a mugen creator it could be a step into a different direction but its also still considered a hobby but its their choice on what to do. as said, everyone has their preferences. I favor a full mugen game rather than a mugen flash game, but there are some really cool flash fighting games. :thumbsup:
Post by: DEMONKAI on March 10, 2011, 01:45:54 AM
You can make a career out of flash games, so it can be useful to switch to flash games..
Yep just look at Shank..Thats pretty much a Flash game..done in cool fashion that is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNnlvjWuYo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNnlvjWuYo#)
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 10, 2011, 01:50:48 AM
Yep just look at Shank..Thats pretty much a Flash game..done in cool fashion that is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNnlvjWuYo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNnlvjWuYo#)
yo i saw this game not too long ago and i loved everything about it. i hope this is XBL cause if is....i am getting it!!!
Post by: DEMONKAI on March 10, 2011, 01:52:53 AM
yo i saw this game not too long ago and i loved everything about it. i hope this is XBL cause if is....i am getting it!!!
It is.
DLC :thumbsup:
Post by: ATiC3 on March 10, 2011, 02:50:27 AM
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 10, 2011, 02:54:43 AM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 10, 2011, 04:02:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ#)
Greatest flash game ever.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 10, 2011, 04:09:19 AM
You guys have convinced me. I'm buying both Shank and Scott Pilgrim games and playing them this weekend... :thumbsup:
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 10, 2011, 04:41:09 AM
Post by: Acey on March 10, 2011, 10:12:25 AM
Just like my old pal Beast here:
:rules:
Post by: Alexziq on March 10, 2011, 11:06:02 AM
Post by: Acey on March 10, 2011, 11:09:15 AM
Like "American Gods" by Neil Gaiman, or Brad Meltzers "Book of Lies", or "Dark Entries" by ian Rankin ;)
Brad Meltzer's The Zero Game was great. Neil Gaiman's The Graveyeard Book was fun too!
Post by: Alexziq on March 10, 2011, 11:50:22 AM
:DxDie
Post by: Acey on March 10, 2011, 01:56:28 PM
No better way to kill interest in a thread with todays youth than to start talking about "books"
:DxDie
True, true, next time there's a hate thread remind me to start talking about novels in order to kill the thread.
(Face it Ziq, we're old)
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 10, 2011, 02:08:01 PM
Post by: SolidZone 26 on March 10, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
So, pretty much trying to say Mugen is better than flash games.? And wondering why some Mugen creators are leaving to flash games.? Well, I personally agree that Mugen is better over flash games but a lot of other hobbies are better than Mugen. Everyone has their preferences and as you said, they're hobbies. You're gonna do what you love to do, who cares what anyone else thinks.? No one's getting paid for it anyways.I'm not saying M.U.G.E.N is better than flash games, I'm saying that they are other things that are better than flash games. I really don't care what hobbies do they want to do after M.U.G.E.N. I made this topic to ask people why choose flash games over other different hobbies. Because are some of them impossible? Hard? Not really suits your area? Etc.
If you ask me though, you could probably apply what you learn through flash games much better out in the real world then you could with anything Mugen related. Can't say this for sure as I'm not a coder but still, chances are that.
True, true, next time there's a hate thread remind me to start talking about novels in order to kill the thread.Writing your own stories is also a good hobby too. I even have a good story in mind, but never announced it in public yet. :P
Yep just look at Shank..Thats pretty much a Flash game..done in cool fashion that is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNnlvjWuYo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SNnlvjWuYo#)
Incoming Flash Game:If M.U.G.E.N creators can make flash games this good, then I'll admit what I said. Games that last for hours are always better than games that last for minutes. Even this flash game I know can last a few hours. Which is called "Angry Birds":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ#)
Greatest flash game ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNzRyd1xz0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNzRyd1xz0#)
On the IPhone/IPod Touch and PSN.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 10, 2011, 05:22:21 PM
Ha i am older than both of you and i agree , kill hate threads with novel talk, . now i really got to get with this whole Ebook thing going around, oh lawd, now i feel really old cause i havent even read an E book yet. sticking to old busted hardbacks.....Opens "Flowers in the Attic" novel.I tried the Ebook thing. Couldn't hold my attention like paper though.
next time there's a hate thread remind me to start talking about novels in order to kill the thread.
I like that idea. :D
Incoming Flash Game:Yeah, I got that on PS3. Haven't even seen the movie or read the mangas yet, but the game is fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ#)
Greatest flash game ever.
Post by: Alexziq on March 11, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
Brian Micheal Bendis's "Torso" is one of the best graphic novels I've read by Image.
The Crow is a must read, and if you can find them (theyr rare) The trades of the 1st few years of TMNT will blow your mind.
I just hope that Marvel will eventually release Miracle/Marvel Man collected trades so they can have a classic on their hands even though it was a Comico Comics title. Sadly I doubt Alan Moore will allow it.
Walking Dead, Madman, The Tick, Maus, Cerebus, Concrete, Mr Monster, Love & Rockets, American Splendor, and Tank Girl are indy books that all will expand your mind as a reader.
Even the early Graphics like Ronin, Death of Captain Marvel, X-Men-God Loves Man Kills, Robotech, Darkseid/DarkPhoenix were an amazing start to this wonderful mediumn that changed the face of writing
Post by: Space (DCL) on March 11, 2011, 12:45:09 AM
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 11, 2011, 12:48:37 AM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 11, 2011, 01:00:54 AM
Post by: Vitamin on March 11, 2011, 03:53:05 AM
Who exactly is leaving mugen for flash animations and games? Flash games sell like hot cakes on the iphone, so I don't blame them for leaving mugen to make a living.
I've also been trying to get into flash animation, but flashes require a bit of technical know how and time.
I wouldn't mind being able to make a flash like this. Respect the Stache.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeSi-ODfJk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeSi-ODfJk#)
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 11, 2011, 03:58:11 AM
You got a point there. *sigh* If only we could do this for money. And not be sued.
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 11, 2011, 03:59:12 AM
Post by: Alexziq on March 11, 2011, 09:09:59 AM
Creators quit mainly because of others stealing their work or because of trolls and haters. One by one, each troll throws a fit about something and pray the creator quits.
Personally I am annoyed as much by people that create a big stir about their work being stolen as much as I am by the trolls.
In my opinion being uptight about that kinda thing in a hobby thats nothing but stealing to begin with is what creates the trolls in the first place. Which makes it harder for other creators that arent uptight.
Personally if people are leaving because of that reason I think it's for the best, less drama to chase away the community.
Ive always believed fans are the real lifeblood of Mugen. Chasing them away with lame drama has hurt the community more than any one person leaving.
I know my opinion isnt a popular one, but it's what I believe.
Post by: Vitamin on March 11, 2011, 11:04:50 AM
Personally I am annoyed as much by people that create a big stir about their work being stolen as much as I am by the trolls.
In my opinion being uptight about that kinda thing in a hobby thats nothing but stealing to begin with is what creates the trolls in the first place. Which makes it harder for other creators that arent uptight.
Personally if people are leaving because of that reason I think it's for the best, less drama to chase away the community.
Ive always believed fans are the real lifeblood of Mugen. Chasing them away with lame drama has hurt the community more than any one person leaving.
I know my opinion isnt a popular one, but it's what I believe.
In general I can agree with your statement. I never understood why creators leave mugen because their work(s) was stolen. I understand that they would be upset over someone stealing their beta or alpha works, but in my opinion that should make them want to finish their mugen character even more, because people like me will want the finish product more, and the creator(s) in the end will earn more recognition because people are looking for the final release. But then again, I'm not a mugen creator so my point is kind of invalid until I create something worth while.
But the awesome thing about flash animations and games is that there is no limit to what you can make with it. With Mugen your stuck with a 2d fighting game, unless you resort to a BOR game, but with Flashes you can make movies, games, music videos, and more. The boundless possibilities with flashes is what is catching peoples attention.
The television show "Archer" on Fx is made with flash animation, and is one of my personal favorite shows right now.
And when you combine mugen sprites with flash animation you get insane videos like: Mortal Kombat vs Street Fighter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYP0BCokPzg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYP0BCokPzg#)
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 11, 2011, 01:26:39 PM
Pleasing fans of characters and stages and such is a trial and error phase, its easy on one hand and hard on the other cause every person likes different things and want various character content that the creator either didnt think of , wouldnt put in and or just isnt their style. if anything i take notes from the ones still around cause they stick to their guns no matter what. but to go the flash game route isnt a bad idea for those that did. unlocks more creative potential as vitamin i should say says more or less in all those fields you listed. :thumbsup: . in a sense as well we all are per say "stealing" already made content from game companies ( wether sprites , fx, sounds and using sprites as bases) but its also more satisfying if we creators are improving upon those already made works rather than simply recreating exactly what was already made to begin with. thats where editing and imaginative out the box creativeness rules the day in works. making them even better playable and viewable.
i say let them haters be ya motivators and if they "steal " your work you did so much hard chore on then you can comeback and add more and better the works ya did so it even more outshines the stoilen one. thats my opinion. but yeah stealing another creators work is a lame thing to do in all regards but hey just Hijack ( i like that word better lol ) it right back and improve it more so the trolls can have less to troll about in the future or ya just take it on the chin. lol ::salute::
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 11, 2011, 07:06:39 PM
Personally I am annoyed as much by people that create a big stir about their work being stolen as much as I am by the trolls.
In my opinion being uptight about that kinda thing in a hobby thats nothing but stealing to begin with is what creates the trolls in the first place. Which makes it harder for other creators that arent uptight.
Personally if people are leaving because of that reason I think it's for the best, less drama to chase away the community.
Ive always believed fans are the real lifeblood of Mugen. Chasing them away with lame drama has hurt the community more than any one person leaving.
I know my opinion isnt a popular one, but it's what I believe.
I have to give it to you Alex. When you are right, you are right. I completely agree with this. Very good post... ^^(PM)^
Post Merge: March 11, 2011, 07:10:29 PM
Even tho i am officially not a full on creator yet since my works arent in full complettion , i understand what both of you 2 are saying as a whole. i dont know many creators by name who left from work being stolen but for the many years i been in mugen i know creators who left cause of alot of flaming. Mugen sites were very hostile some years back, a few still are but there are many like IMT and sgm and cvg that are quite pleasant to be part of. good atmosphere and cool friends. I call those mugen yesteryears the Flame Wars era. lol there were tons of creators where now there are just the usual suspects in mugen . Trolls have been around since the dawn of the internet and will always be around as long as there is an internet. those crreators that did leave probably didnt understand that trolls never die no matter how good your stuff is. someone will troll you at some point. lol.
Pleasing fans of characters and stages and such is a trial and error phase, its easy on one hand and hard on the other cause every person likes different things and want various character content that the creator either didnt think of , wouldnt put in and or just isnt their style. if anything i take notes from the ones still around cause they stick to their guns no matter what. but to go the flash game route isnt a bad idea for those that did. unlocks more creative potential as vitamin i should say says more or less in all those fields you listed. :thumbsup: . in a sense as well we all are per say "stealing" already made content from game companies ( wether sprites , fx, sounds and using sprites as bases) but its also more satisfying if we creators are improving upon those already made works rather than simply recreating exactly what was already made to begin with. thats where editing and imaginative out the box creativeness rules the day in works. making them even better playable and viewable.
i say let them haters be ya motivators and if they "steal " your work you did so much hard chore on then you can comeback and add more and better the works ya did so it even more outshines the stoilen one. thats my opinion. but yeah stealing another creators work is a lame thing to do in all regards but hey just Hijack ( i like that word better lol ) it right back and improve it more so the trolls can have less to troll about in the future or ya just take it on the chin. lol ::salute::
I agree with this too. When and if I ever work on a Mugen character, I promise to make it open source, since I know there is always someone that can make it better or have more imagination than I do, so it doesn't hurt to see what other people can do with your creations... :)
PS. Can you imagine how many secret creations or edits of characters are out there to avoid this drama? We are probably missing on a lot of great characters. I hate that... *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 11, 2011, 07:11:36 PM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 12, 2011, 05:00:15 AM
dude the flaming on that alone would warrent ..NO RELEASE....EVER! :D
there are so many wont be released characters ( and by pros even) that the really great ones are never to be shared or played so they wont get "stolen" by trolls and leechers and remade by them. But hey , its up to those creators if they are ok with that, if you use my sprites so be it but the thing is people will know whose it is if its original stuff or never made before stuff. then they are just editing it and maybe in fact if done by a better thought individual with more know how actually makes the character like i said , better. if they make em worse then its Kudos to you and not them. LOL! Its like really Egos get in the way. like " Oh he stole my ryu that i downloaded that was ripped from capcom". o.O#! I don think permission was truly granted just not taken seriously cause its fan art. Its a hobby and we have anal peeps who do what they do cause they can do it and cant be stopped really that much. they will either do it online or offline and make it a video and show you but never release it. such teases! lol . But hey, we love mugen and forums and good people wanna keep Mugen alive and going so we make rules to try and keep good order. :thumbsup:
@ Alexziq- bro you may think your opinion may not be a popular one but trust and believe , it is what it is and no one can really refute that. you have very good and strong valid points. :thumbsup:
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 12, 2011, 07:25:17 PM
Incoming Flash Game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6MfN4upqQ#)
Greatest flash game ever.
This game looks awesome!
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 12, 2011, 07:33:54 PM
This game looks awesome!
ohj yeah DT , that game is indeed awesome! i been playing it for weeks now. love it and its got some good difficulty.
for the last 3 days i been on this new lil flash game sorta, its in STEAM or something like that. I have to say, i am very very impressed. :thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1vexQzA9Vk&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1vexQzA9Vk&feature=related#)
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 12, 2011, 07:48:16 PM
ohj yeah DT , that game is indeed awesome! i been playing it for weeks now. love it and its got some good difficulty.
for the last 3 days i been on this new lil flash game sorta, its in STEAM or something like that. I have to say, i am very very impressed. :thumbsup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1vexQzA9Vk&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1vexQzA9Vk&feature=related#)
Reminds me of a more advanced version of Jungle Hunt :DxDie
. i found myself playing scott pilgrim and splosion man more than MVC3! go figure. :|
That's because it has that old school feel to those games. I am going to get slammed for this, but most new games are all the same. I am so sick of first person shooters. I played the hell out of MVC3 when it came out. But before that, my 360 hasn't been turned on in months. My original Xbox is modded, & has every emulator & rom under the sun on the hard drive. I would much rather sit & play those old games than another Call Of Duty. Just my opinion.
BTW: Please no more mention of books guys, I almost had to lock the thread because of that :DxDie
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 12, 2011, 08:16:35 PM
lawd i forgot about jungle hunt! :o hahaha it was first called Jungle King in the arcades when i was a kid. man people used to crunch they quarters in that game long ago at the local store by the elemetry school i went to. that was the hangout spot and game to beat . lol
and for yall enjoyment , my childhood elementry quarter cruncher. Jungle King!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHKXXC7JSnk&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHKXXC7JSnk&feature=related#)
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 12, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
I was just playing Jungle Hunt/King on Mame not too long ago...lol
I must admit, I am on board with these flash games. I like the feel to them. Obviously I still
like mugen, though. Seeing that mugen is straight up old school fighters
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 12, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
most definetly DT, thats why i been going pretty hard on those flash type games. ahhh the fond memories. lolMan, when was this out? Never heard of it.
lawd i forgot about jungle hunt! :o hahaha it was first called Jungle King in the arcades when i was a kid. man people used to crunch they quarters in that game long ago at the local store by the elemetry school i went to. that was the hangout spot and game to beat . lol
and for yall enjoyment , my childhood elementry quarter cruncher. Jungle King!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHKXXC7JSnk&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHKXXC7JSnk&feature=related#)
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 12, 2011, 08:52:53 PM
yeah DT flash games are really coming around lately in the last 2 years . from videos, games and other media. its seems to becoming the new wave in mainstream media ... for now anyway. and then there is STEAM. thats going even further into the creative field from flash. I think its only a matter of time before a really good fighter is produced from one of those engines.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - Shadaloo Lives! on March 12, 2011, 08:55:03 PM
WOW this was out in like 1982.That was a few years before I was born. lol No wonder, I never heard of it. I'll look up the rom.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 12, 2011, 10:10:12 PM
That was a few years before I was born. lol No wonder, I never heard of it. I'll look up the rom.
Yes get the Rom !!! lol
WOW this was out in like 1982, same time i was playing it when it hit the arcade. then the jungle hunt cabinet came like 6 months later. , i was 8 years old man. loved this game, best part... the music score!!!
yeah DT flash games are really coming around lately in the last 2 years . from videos, games and other media. its seems to becoming the new wave in mainstream media ... for now anyway. and then there is STEAM. thats going even further into the creative field from flash. I think its only a matter of time before a really good fighter is produced from one of those engines.
Yeah, Lando. I agree, it's only a matter of time before they develop some great fighting game. I will look forward to that. I have no idea about the whole steam thing? :-??
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 13, 2011, 06:34:56 PM
WOW this was out in like 1982, same time i was playing it when it hit the arcade. then the jungle hunt cabinet came like 6 months later. , i was 8 years old man. loved this game, best part... the music score!!!
yeah DT flash games are really coming around lately in the last 2 years . from videos, games and other media. its seems to becoming the new wave in mainstream media ... for now anyway. and then there is STEAM. thats going even further into the creative field from flash. I think its only a matter of time before a really good fighter is produced from one of those engines.
Man I loved Jungle King/Hunt !!! :o
You guys brought a lot of memories. I had forgotten about that. I need to get the rom now. :thumbsup:
In what year were you born Lando? I was born in 1975... :)
Post by: DEMONKAI on March 13, 2011, 06:38:20 PM
Personally I am annoyed as much by people that create a big stir about their work being stolen as much as I am by the trolls.
In my opinion being uptight about that kinda thing in a hobby thats nothing but stealing to begin with is what creates the trolls in the first place. Which makes it harder for other creators that arent uptight.
Personally if people are leaving because of that reason I think it's for the best, less drama to chase away the community.
Ive always believed fans are the real lifeblood of Mugen. Chasing them away with lame drama has hurt the community more than any one person leaving.
I know my opinion isnt a popular one, but it's what I believe.
Nah you didnt say anything wrong. strong point indeed. makes sense bro. Folks forget Mugen is "A hobby". nothing more...
But yeh flash games have a lot of potential. A good enough idea and you can definitely get paid while leaving behind a Great classic for gamers to remember
Post by: fatalfreak on March 23, 2011, 01:49:56 AM
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 23, 2011, 02:06:40 AM
In what year were you born Lando? I was born in 1975... :)
The Lando does not tell such information during my sanity hours **cough 74 Cough* and i usually spend my time during my retardation mode as you all have seen and read. ooops i had a relapse and told!! o.O# DANG! IT!!!!! \-/o
edit: Fatal i wouldnt be and are not surprised by that for various reasons. if i was married and my wife came to me and said : lando, you are on mugen games 11 hours a day, you been late for work, calling off from work, havent paid the car insurance, lil yasmeen is walking around with a dirty diaper, and you dont pay me any attention like you used to. therefore if you dont stop playing mugen then you cannot play...( must use good word) HOUSE with me..anymore!"
dude i would be like " MUGEN WHAT? :D
alot of things have happened to male gamers in some years who totally nerfed their responsibilities for gaming. so it doesnt shock me to hear that at all bro.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 23, 2011, 01:28:38 PM
The Lando does not tell such information during my sanity hours **cough 74 Cough* and i usually spend my time during my retardation mode as you all have seen and read. ooops i had a relapse and told!! o.O# DANG! IT!!!!! \-/o
74 eh? That means that you are a year older. Can I have some money? ;D
Anyway, I agree with what you guys are saying. A balance is definitely needed and there also needs to be communication and an understanding.
I once broke off with a girlfriend because she didn't want me to play video games at all, even though she knew I liked them before we even got involved. Of course there is a diference because there were no kids involved, but she kept saying that they were childish, a waste of money, and that she wanted me to do something else with my spare time.
I usually don't play much when I'm in a relationship, so I wasn't playing much during my time with her either, maybe once or twice a week for two hours, while she was reading a book or something, but she still would get upset. We had many arguments about it and I kept telling her that leaving games all together would be changing who I was and what I liked.
When she decided to force me into choosing between games or her, I dumped her and told her that games were not more important than her, but I would not be with someone who would force me to change who I am.
I still love the choice I made. I would have been miserable without my video game world...
Post by: Alexziq on March 23, 2011, 02:14:43 PM
I am actually glad theres two other guys near my age though!
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 23, 2011, 02:22:30 PM
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Just recently, I've been seeing a couple of M.U.G.E.N creators quitting M.U.G.E.N to make flash games. In my personal opinion, I think it's a stupid hobby.
And you say this based on what?
Lets face the things easily:
- Nobody earns a thing (money) working with mugen, while we (creators) need to to keep hearing stopid leachers, trolls and haters blaming everytime you release something.
- A creator, as everyone, do WHAT HE WANTS TO. If the wants to leave, its his right. No need to cry about it. Neither he is obligated to "give" his chars to anyone.
- Flash games aren't stupid hobby. I known many people that who made flash games for money, as they jobs, as I do. Right now, I'm entering the iPad/iPhone games development area, and its great.
So, if I could say, Mugen could be a stupid hobby, because we don't earn a f**k*** dime with it. Plus, we need to tolared stupid people everyday, people who owns a site where many people licks its ball and he thinks is very macho just because that, people who are simple haters, reatards, etc.
But for me Mugen is a nice Hobby. If I'm a PHP/javascript/AS programmer today, is because I had a long time learning some basic aspects of logic in Mugen. And I am thankful to it.
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 23, 2011, 06:15:47 PM
Well I am a hair older than you both. :D
I am actually glad theres two other guys near my age though!
Well, us
No worries tough, I always heard that old age will always be 20 years older than I am, so we are all good... ;)
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 27, 2011, 06:29:40 PM
Thanks to you guys, I just finished Jungle King for the first time ever. :thumbsup:
Man, that game hunted me from my child hood days... \-/o
I just crossed one item off the bucket list... :DxDie
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 27, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
but its def cool to be in mugen and have some older wisdom peeps here and man we should have a 30's to 40's game night online xbl or and ps3. lol.
i agree with ya ll the way on that Big O. i too have worked in company field for many years and my friends still work in the Vg industry and doing cellphone game apps stuff for a few years now. very profitable i have seen. so your entire post is spot on and i agree all the way. Mugen for me has become a very grand hobby and i enjoy myself from the hard work nights to wind down to mugen creating sprites and doing sounds and all the stuff i need to know how to do and want to do. doing flash games is fun as well as a hobby or job. Its about what the creator wants to do . :thumbsup:
Manolostyle- i hear bro. i had a woman that once asked me why do i game, i said plain and simple, it keeps me leveled and relaxed and i enjoy the fun. if someone cant accept that reason or whatever reason you give then it boils down to its your choice. but on the flip side , there are some people as i d=said before that take it over the limit and it messes with their life. gaming on a homefront for entertainment is one thing but when you start neglecting responsibilities in order to Game then its a problem. But hey man , ya have to enjoy yourself in this life and if gaming helps you wind down from stresses then its all good money but if you let the game dictate your livelyhood and negates your progress and take over and resposibilities take a backseat then its something a person should really take a step back and look at seriously in what they are doing . Games are not cvhildish, but they surely do let you always feel the youth and have fun with the imagination.GAME ON! ::salute::
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 28, 2011, 04:31:48 PM
its good to have fellow grey hair fellows around this place . lol. ( wait , am i the only one with a grey strand in my beard? /:O lol)
but its def cool to be in mugen and have some older wisdom peeps here and man we should have a 30's to 40's game night online xbl or and ps3. lol.
i agree with ya ll the way on that Big O. i too have worked in company field for many years and my friends still work in the Vg industry and doing cellphone game apps stuff for a few years now. very profitable i have seen. so your entire post is spot on and i agree all the way. Mugen for me has become a very grand hobby and i enjoy myself from the hard work nights to wind down to mugen creating sprites and doing sounds and all the stuff i need to know how to do and want to do. doing flash games is fun as well as a hobby or job. Its about what the creator wants to do . :thumbsup:
Manolostyle- i hear bro. i had a woman that once asked me why do i game, i said plain and simple, it keeps me leveled and relaxed and i enjoy the fun. if someone cant accept that reason or whatever reason you give then it boils down to its your choice. but on the flip side , there are some people as i d=said before that take it over the limit and it messes with their life. gaming on a homefront for entertainment is one thing but when you start neglecting responsibilities in order to Game then its a problem. But hey man , ya have to enjoy yourself in this life and if gaming helps you wind down from stresses then its all good money but if you let the game dictate your livelyhood and negates your progress and take over and resposibilities take a backseat then its something a person should really take a step back and look at seriously in what they are doing . Games are not cvhildish, but they surely do let you always feel the youth and have fun with the imagination.GAME ON! ::salute::
Nothing but the truth brotha... :thumbsup:
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 28, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
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i was looking for you on xbl last night man . lol . i am gettin on later on so hopefully i see ya around there and yoooooooooooooooooo i got the message man! you are hilarious bro! :D
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 28, 2011, 05:44:51 PM
I didn't go online last night. I got caught up updating my MAME32, but I'll join in later tonight. I'm happy that you finally got a mic. We gotta put that to the test. Plus, I'm itching for some MvC3... :o
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 28, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 28, 2011, 06:07:03 PM
Yeah, I'ma be there myself.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!!!!!!!!!!! XD||
Niiiiiiice !!!!!! >:D
Looking forward to it... :w00t:
PS. I love your new Avatar and Sig. Castle Crashers is one of my favorite games... :thumbsup:
Post by: Tha Lando ( Le CROM ) on March 28, 2011, 06:39:45 PM
Post by: Slivern on March 28, 2011, 06:58:26 PM
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 28, 2011, 11:59:44 PM
I look forward to getting my butt kicked again ( or me kicking some wesker around .....hopefully [-O<) and enjoying some cool laughs with you bros. :thumbsup:
I'm online on XBL MvC3 if anyone wants to join... :w00t:
Post by: C.R.O.M. - ManoloStyle on March 29, 2011, 12:00:15 AM
I look forward to getting my butt kicked again ( or me kicking some wesker around .....hopefully [-O<) and enjoying some cool laughs with you bros. :thumbsup:
I'm online on XBL MvC3 if anyone wants to join... :w00t: