Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 18, 2007, 01:10:04 PM
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Post by: Koi Tenchi on September 18, 2007, 01:39:26 PM
Anways, for anyone curious about more on the issue, I notice that the news channels all keep starting at the same point, RIGHT before the police take him away.
Here's a more indepth video, from when he began his questioning:
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Post by: AceWonder20 on September 18, 2007, 07:48:07 PM
Post by: yamblack on September 18, 2007, 07:53:29 PM
That was messed up. I hate to see what they would do if that was a black guy.I think it's stupid that you think black people are always treated worse.
Yet at the same time, I know it's true. : \
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 18, 2007, 07:56:41 PM
Its stupid that u say that to a black person(me) who's been through it. U wouldnt know about that now would u?That was messed up. I hate to see what they would do if that was a black guy.I think it's stupid that you think black people are always treated worse.
Post by: yamblack on September 18, 2007, 08:15:51 PM
Actually, I do, that's why I say that. I wouldn't dare say anything if I hadn't. BTW, I'm also black.Its stupid that u say that to a black person(me) who's been through it. U wouldnt know about that now would u?That was messed up. I hate to see what they would do if that was a black guy.I think it's stupid that you think black people are always treated worse.
Post by: Spidermew on September 18, 2007, 08:41:43 PM
Anyone else notice as soon as he mentioned skull and bones he starts getting the cops on him.
I can understand if the man had a gun and was trying to kill john kerry, but asking questins, its stupid.
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 18, 2007, 08:51:47 PM
My apologies. I still think that tho. I got my a$$ whooped by cops for much less than what he did too many times to change my views.Actually, I do, that's why I say that. I wouldn't dare say anything if I hadn't. BTW, I'm also black.Its stupid that u say that to a black person(me) who's been through it. U wouldnt know about that now would u?That was messed up. I hate to see what they would do if that was a black guy.I think it's stupid that you think black people are always treated worse.
Post by: b.easy on September 18, 2007, 09:23:50 PM
Post by: god_king on September 18, 2007, 09:53:28 PM
The guy was a little annoying, yes, but not nearly enough for this to happen to him.
[youtube=425,350]tCBcOQkUNjI[/youtube]
Absolutely sickening.
Ten years ago, this is the sort of thing patriotic Americans would have seen happening in some police-state dictatorship and been outraged at, saying "That country needs a functioning democracy!"
Today, it happens in the United States, and it barely makes the news because people are getting used to it. People are becoming comfortable with it. This is the sort of attitude - that questioning authority and the party line too vigorously deserves brutal force - that leads a society slowly and steadily into fascism. This attitude needs to be stopped now.
Post by: yamblack on September 18, 2007, 09:58:07 PM
Yeah, I understand. Even though I said that, I know it's true. Many groups are treated the same though. It's not limited to skin color, much less blacks. What I'm trying to say is, thinking we will always receive unfair treatment will only promote racism.My apologies. I still think that tho. I got my a$$ whooped by cops for much less than what he did too many times to change my views.Actually, I do, that's why I say that. I wouldn't dare say anything if I hadn't. BTW, I'm also black.Its stupid that u say that to a black person(me) who's been through it. U wouldnt know about that now would u?That was messed up. I hate to see what they would do if that was a black guy.I think it's stupid that you think black people are always treated worse.
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 18, 2007, 10:02:36 PM
I understand. Seeing that vid just brought back some f-ed up memories is all.Yeah, I understand. Even though I said that, I know it's true. Many groups are treated the same though. It's not limited to skin color, much less blacks. What I'm trying to say is, thinking we will always receive unfair treatment will only promote racism.My apologies. I still think that tho. I got my a$$ whooped by cops for much less than what he did too many times to change my views.Actually, I do, that's why I say that. I wouldn't dare say anything if I hadn't. BTW, I'm also black.Its stupid that u say that to a black person(me) who's been through it. U wouldnt know about that now would u?That was messed up. I hate to see what they would do if that was a black guy.I think it's stupid that you think black people are always treated worse.
Post by: malisiousjoe on September 18, 2007, 10:28:56 PM
>:-(-| Oh and people lets focus on what happened and lets not start with the race batter issue. If you keep bringing up race as an issue it will always be!
Post by: Jay_High19 on September 18, 2007, 11:03:43 PM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on September 19, 2007, 01:32:29 AM
The boy didn't do anything wrong. The kid was simply asking a few questions, and Kerry actually was listening to him and willing to answer, when the police got on him Kerry said to let him speak. He didn't threaten Kerry, he was just asking simple questions. What the police where doing there was no different then terrorism. This police brutality should not be tolerated. Not only does this make the police look bad, but it also makes Kerry look bad because he was actually a part of the event. Things in America are being so bad now to where we have to avoid the police, back in the day the police were supposed to keep us safe from whatever it is that goes bump in the night, now it's so bad to where the police is the thing that goes bump in the night, and since us as citizens can't do anything other than suffer their brutality, we are forced to submit to their terrorisms. >:( >o:-( XD||
Post by: SiddtheKidd on September 19, 2007, 02:14:23 AM
>:(well i dont see how it made kerry look bad when he said to let him speak but the cops never been good to me, not because i've hadd any expierences with any i just never trusted them simply because they're humans like we are and majority of humans take advantage of power so to me it's safe to say the police dont make the world any more safe.
The boy didn't do anything wrong. The kid was simply asking a few questions, and Kerry actually was listening to him and willing to answer, when the police got on him Kerry said to let him speak. He didn't threaten Kerry, he was just asking simple questions. What the police where doing there was no different then terrorism. This police brutality should not be tolerated. Not only does this make the police look bad, but it also makes Kerry look bad because he was actually a part of the event. Things in America are being so bad now to where we have to avoid the police, back in the day the police were supposed to keep us safe from whatever it is that goes bump in the night, now it's so bad to where the police is the thing that goes bump in the night, and since us as citizens can't do anything other than suffer their brutality, we are forced to submit to their terrorisms. >:( >o:-( XD||
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 19, 2007, 08:29:43 AM
Yeah Kerry still answered his question. Not at the best time but he did. True words VKM. That poor kid....>:(well i dont see how it made kerry look bad when he said to let him speak but the cops never been good to me, not because i've hadd any expierences with any i just never trusted them simply because they're humans like we are and majority of humans take advantage of power so to me it's safe to say the police dont make the world any more safe.
The boy didn't do anything wrong. The kid was simply asking a few questions, and Kerry actually was listening to him and willing to answer, when the police got on him Kerry said to let him speak. He didn't threaten Kerry, he was just asking simple questions. What the police where doing there was no different then terrorism. This police brutality should not be tolerated. Not only does this make the police look bad, but it also makes Kerry look bad because he was actually a part of the event. Things in America are being so bad now to where we have to avoid the police, back in the day the police were supposed to keep us safe from whatever it is that goes bump in the night, now it's so bad to where the police is the thing that goes bump in the night, and since us as citizens can't do anything other than suffer their brutality, we are forced to submit to their terrorisms. >:( >o:-( XD||
Post by: Acey on September 19, 2007, 09:30:20 AM
Post by: Jay_High19 on September 19, 2007, 03:36:53 PM
the cops never been good to me, not because i've hadd any expierences with any i just never trusted them simply because they're humans like we are and majority of humans take advantage of power so to me it's safe to say the police dont make the world any more safe.Yeah, they're people just like us. The other day when me and my sis were coming home there was an ambulance that was just driving, no sirens or anything. As soon as the light turned green they threw on the sirens and made a sharp right to get into the drive-thru at Church's Chicken. :D Real emergency. L-)
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 19, 2007, 03:38:10 PM
:D :DxDie Yo u know they was hungry, lolthe cops never been good to me, not because i've hadd any expierences with any i just never trusted them simply because they're humans like we are and majority of humans take advantage of power so to me it's safe to say the police dont make the world any more safe.Yeah, they're people just like us. The other day when me and my sis were coming home there was an ambulance that was just driving, no sirens or anything. As soon as the light turned green they threw on the sirens and made a sharp right to get into the drive-thru at Church's Chicken. :D Real emergency. L-)
Post by: Jay_High19 on September 19, 2007, 03:40:44 PM
:DxDie:D :DxDie Yo u know they was hungry, lolthe cops never been good to me, not because i've hadd any expierences with any i just never trusted them simply because they're humans like we are and majority of humans take advantage of power so to me it's safe to say the police dont make the world any more safe.Yeah, they're people just like us. The other day when me and my sis were coming home there was an ambulance that was just driving, no sirens or anything. As soon as the light turned green they threw on the sirens and made a sharp right to get into the drive-thru at Church's Chicken. :D Real emergency. L-)
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on September 19, 2007, 05:18:17 PM
Watch the whole video, the guy was taking all the time on the floor and getting pretty riled up, and when the campus police showed up he was just being belligerent and never for a second did what they asked him and fought them the whole way. All he had to do was walk... asking stupid questions like "were you part of the secret organization that tampered with voting to make you lose the election?"It's still no reason for the police to perform brutality and call it disrupting a public event to justify what they did. I watched the video. Not one person looked disturbed, the senator even told the cops to let him speak, which the cops failed to do, the senator gave the police an order, and they ignored it. Sick world we live in. The kid was not threating anybody, he had no weapons on him, he wasn't selling illegal drugs, there was no reason to get more than 3 cops on him, let alone attack him. He just asked a few questions, I don't remember anything stating that it's against the law to ask anybody in politics questions (whether they are stupid or not) at a conference held in a university. What the cops did was completely unethical and not kosher. A lot of people wonder why there are so many conspiracies, stuff like this is exactly why!
Post by: Esq. on September 19, 2007, 06:23:30 PM
Post by: grandma on September 19, 2007, 08:10:53 PM
i wish every obnoxious prick who tried to validate their existance with a political view would get teh haxorz.
remember XD||
Post by: Bob Dobbs on September 20, 2007, 08:06:48 AM
Post by: Ryu # 20 on September 20, 2007, 09:29:45 AM
Post by: eg6gsr on September 20, 2007, 01:59:16 PM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on September 20, 2007, 05:43:25 PM
I can't say that I hate the cops for this, yes they did not have to use the force that was used but then again the guy could have just left when the cops told him to......most cops do abuse their power and get riled up and use force that is not needed but in most cases that you see this happen the victim either did not listen or said something smart to get the cop to that point and as mentioned in earlier postings cops are human and everyone has bad days not saying that its right but it happens.........and this is my favorite quote about police "everyone hates the police until they need their help" think of cops like bouncers in the club if you do what they say you will not get hurtActually I never ask for their help, every single time I do they always tell me to help myself or they just try to get me in jail. Cops really don't like to do their job. About a year ago we had to replace city police with county police because the city police didn't ever really do anything, they let people speed on the roads, and they had markings on the map of where not to go (crime-ish areas), I'm afraid that lazy cops are the reason why we have drug dealers and such in the first place. If cops were always doing their jobs I don't think we'd have as much drugged up teenagers as we do. Instead they'd rather just cause riots and screw over innocent civilians. As for that kid, like I said, he wasn't a threat, he didn't have weapons or drugs, + I'm sure Kerry had a few body guards here and there to take him down if he was. Kerry knew he wasn't a threat which is why he wanted the kid to ask the questions. Nobody looked disturbed, Kerry was interested in answering the kids questions, no matter how stupid they were, the only hostility I saw there was coming from the police. Nobody else.
Post by: eg6gsr on September 21, 2007, 01:38:42 PM
Post by: Whoblehwah on September 21, 2007, 11:46:49 PM
Post by: MaverickZr0 on September 21, 2007, 11:48:28 PM
:D
The taser was uneccesary though...