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Title: about warehouses.........
Post by: Lightblackheart on September 11, 2007, 10:42:11 AM
i want to know are they good or bad is it the question

because i was visiting my friend (he is beginning in this of mugen) and he was downloading chars for something called the mugen depot or something and

they were very strange LOL a black guile,the infamous omega TH,MYSP,iceli,two-eyes sagat and more

i want to know your opinions (i think the warehouses steal the char from they respective autors sooooooo, it is bad)

please reply
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on September 11, 2007, 10:45:14 AM
yes they are bad  stealing creations from hard working creators is bad m'kay  :|  and wrong place this should be in mugen discussion
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Saber Alter on September 11, 2007, 10:45:32 AM
Apparently they are now okay with the community....
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on September 11, 2007, 10:46:48 AM
most but Not all
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Lightblackheart on September 11, 2007, 10:51:39 AM
you think the same way as me!!!! =D>
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: xM.Ξ.†.Λ.L.G.Ξ.Λ.Rx™ on September 11, 2007, 10:59:36 AM
Hey the warehousing needs to stop because it is ruining the mugen community.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Lightblackheart on September 11, 2007, 11:03:36 AM
yeah there are less mugen chars pages and more warehouses pages it is annoyng :'(
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Alexziq on September 11, 2007, 11:34:42 AM
My feeling is that leeked and Private stuff shouldnt be wharehoused, but once released I dont see how you can stop it. You can be vocal about it, but no ones going to stop them. I personally feel like people take MUGEN a tad too seriously, but I try to respect everyones opinion at the the same time.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 11, 2007, 11:56:41 AM
MugenGuild and MI != most of the community.

Warehousing is hosting done with no regard for the original creator or his wishes, usually stuff both offline and online, even if the work or creator has specificly stated don't host my work and left that as a final point. Warehouses usually justify themselves as "needing to host everything for the sake of completion" even though they themselves realize they won't reach their goal. It harms the community because it robs people of the choice to step up and say "no, don't do this with my work", and the fact that in many cases readmes are removed from warehoused works or older versions are those that are actually hosted, doesn't help matters.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 11, 2007, 12:05:15 PM
Here's my opinion.

Is the act of warehousing bad?: To me, not really.

What about leaked characters and privates: That's bad. And while the thought that some people are so sensitive to anyone even messing with a copy of their character that they go private bugs me, I don't believe privates should be leaked to the public, if only for the fact that it involves ruined trust.

Online: I'll admit, some online creations are really, freaking hard to find. Still  <_<|...| <_<|google|

Offline: Yeah.

Warehouses ruining Mugen?: To me, it's not really warehousing ruining mugen, moreso people's responses to it. And peoples responses to it ends up making more warehousers (say, making a character private). Really, to me, if people mostly just stopped caring if a horribly unfinished beta gets warehoused, then there would be fewer problems.

Warehousers steal!!!: Debatable.

What?: To me, there are 3 main kinds of warehousers/warehouse supporters. The ones who don't know what they are doing, the "spite warehousers" who warehouse stuff out of spite, and the "Robin Hood Warehouser", who tries to help the community with warehousing.

 :) :-j Scissors beats paper!

 >o:-( :) But Cutman beats scissors!
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: grandma on September 11, 2007, 12:09:37 PM
Here's my opinion.

Is the act of warehousing bad?: To me, not really.

What about leaked characters and privates: That's bad. And while the thought that some people are so sensitive to anyone even messing with a copy of their character that they go private bugs me, I don't believe privates should be leaked to the public, if only for the fact that it involves ruined trust.

Online: I'll admit, some online creations are really, freaking hard to find. Still  <_<|...| <_<|google|

Offline: Yeah.

Warehouses ruining Mugen?: To me, it's not really warehousing ruining mugen, moreso people's responses to it. And peoples responses to it ends up making more warehousers (say, making a character private). Really, to me, if people mostly just stopped caring if a horribly unfinished beta gets warehoused, then there would be fewer problems.

Warehousers steal!!!: Debatable.

What?: To me, there are 3 main kinds of warehousers/warehouse supporters. The ones who don't know what they are doing, the "spite warehousers" who warehouse stuff out of spite, and the "Robin Hood Warehouser", who tries to help the community with warehousing.

 :) :-j Scissors beats paper!

 >o:-( :) But Cutman beats scissors!


i second all of that.  especially the cutman part.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Alexziq on September 11, 2007, 12:16:16 PM
MugenGuild and MI != most of the community.

Warehousing is hosting done with no regard for the original creator or his wishes, usually stuff both offline and online, even if the work or creator has specificly stated don't host my work and left that as a final point. Warehouses usually justify themselves as "needing to host everything for the sake of completion" even though they themselves realize they won't reach their goal. It harms the community because it robs people of the choice to step up and say "no, don't do this with my work", and the fact that in many cases readmes are removed from warehoused works or older versions are those that are actually hosted, doesn't help matters.

Im in no way saying youre wrong, but its put out for free, non-copy-write, and many sprites used without any expressed written permission from the companies, or the origional artists. The only way I can see to to avoid warehousing is to make all characters private. No ones going to reason with warehousers, and theres not a legal foot to stand on.

Problem is its a respect issue, and we're a Mugen community divided. While I would never upload stuff for public sharing, theres 5000 other guys, who dont share the same views as me. I just dont see how it can be stopped. It just makes for more Drama, which makes up about 90% of the reason why people quit MUGEN communities. Sometimes the drama makes me think this is a doomed hobby.  :(

Again I agree with your standpoint, it just doesnt personally affect me. What does is the endless fighting between the differant sides, and drama. And the rest of us who make up the vast majority of the community feel conflicted, confused, and divided by these issues of a small segment of Creators vs Misc villians, or whatever issue is at hand on a given day.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Spidermew on September 11, 2007, 02:36:43 PM
Here's my opinion.

Is the act of warehousing bad?: To me, not really.

What about leaked characters and privates: That's bad. And while the thought that some people are so sensitive to anyone even messing with a copy of their character that they go private bugs me, I don't believe privates should be leaked to the public, if only for the fact that it involves ruined trust.

Online: I'll admit, some online creations are really, freaking hard to find. Still  <_<|...| <_<|google|

Offline: Yeah.

Warehouses ruining Mugen?: To me, it's not really warehousing ruining mugen, moreso people's responses to it. And peoples responses to it ends up making more warehousers (say, making a character private). Really, to me, if people mostly just stopped caring if a horribly unfinished beta gets warehoused, then there would be fewer problems.

Warehousers steal!!!: Debatable.

What?: To me, there are 3 main kinds of warehousers/warehouse supporters. The ones who don't know what they are doing, the "spite warehousers" who warehouse stuff out of spite, and the "Robin Hood Warehouser", who tries to help the community with warehousing.

 :) :-j Scissors beats paper!

 >o:-( :) But Cutman beats scissors!


How do you think the act of warehousing is not bad? I dont understand that...
First off its totaly disrespectful.
Second off, it stops people form going to the creator's website which the creator had to put time and/or money into making.
The only thing someone would say is good about it is the fact you can get a bunch of chars in one easy to go to spot.
But that is wrong. It come out of people being lazy, too lazy to use google or even care about searching.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: OrwellianDawn on September 11, 2007, 02:44:37 PM
Too bad Google isn't worth the millions poured into it.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Shadow on September 11, 2007, 02:54:58 PM
 <_<|google|

You're all so archaic.  Be creative when thinking about how to include readmes.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 11, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
Here's my opinion.

Is the act of warehousing bad?: To me, not really.

What about leaked characters and privates: That's bad. And while the thought that some people are so sensitive to anyone even messing with a copy of their character that they go private bugs me, I don't believe privates should be leaked to the public, if only for the fact that it involves ruined trust.

Online: I'll admit, some online creations are really, freaking hard to find. Still  <_<|...| <_<|google|

Offline: Yeah.

Warehouses ruining Mugen?: To me, it's not really warehousing ruining mugen, moreso people's responses to it. And peoples responses to it ends up making more warehousers (say, making a character private). Really, to me, if people mostly just stopped caring if a horribly unfinished beta gets warehoused, then there would be fewer problems.

Warehousers steal!!!: Debatable.

What?: To me, there are 3 main kinds of warehousers/warehouse supporters. The ones who don't know what they are doing, the "spite warehousers" who warehouse stuff out of spite, and the "Robin Hood Warehouser", who tries to help the community with warehousing.

 :) :-j Scissors beats paper!

 >o:-( :) But Cutman beats scissors!


How do you think the act of warehousing is not bad?

Read my post.


 I dont understand that...

First off its totaly disrespectful.

Depends on intent and what's being warehoused, and who's stuff is being warehoused.


Second off, it stops people form going to the creator's website which the creator had to put time and/or money into making.

One, not all creators have websites. Two, it may *make* more people go to the creator's websites. It depends on the person.


The only thing someone would say is good about it is the fact you can get a bunch of chars in one easy to go to spot.
But that is wrong. It come out of people being lazy, too lazy to use google or even care about searching.

Even warehouses must be Googled. I mean, as far as I know, the "legit" sites are the most advertised anyways. How much advertisement does warehousing sites get?

Frankly, I wonder if you really read my post.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Lightblackheart on September 11, 2007, 03:34:07 PM
your opinions convince anybody the warehouses are bad i will never enter any warehouse

 
 >:-(-|

i will make more ""about topics""
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Spidermew on September 11, 2007, 03:40:39 PM
Here's my opinion.

Is the act of warehousing bad?: To me, not really.

What about leaked characters and privates: That's bad. And while the thought that some people are so sensitive to anyone even messing with a copy of their character that they go private bugs me, I don't believe privates should be leaked to the public, if only for the fact that it involves ruined trust.

Online: I'll admit, some online creations are really, freaking hard to find. Still  <_<|...| <_<|google|

Offline: Yeah.

Warehouses ruining Mugen?: To me, it's not really warehousing ruining mugen, moreso people's responses to it. And peoples responses to it ends up making more warehousers (say, making a character private). Really, to me, if people mostly just stopped caring if a horribly unfinished beta gets warehoused, then there would be fewer problems.

Warehousers steal!!!: Debatable.

What?: To me, there are 3 main kinds of warehousers/warehouse supporters. The ones who don't know what they are doing, the "spite warehousers" who warehouse stuff out of spite, and the "Robin Hood Warehouser", who tries to help the community with warehousing.

 :) :-j Scissors beats paper!

 >o:-( :) But Cutman beats scissors!


How do you think the act of warehousing is not bad?

Read my post.


 I dont understand that...

First off its totaly disrespectful.

Depends on intent and what's being warehoused, and who's stuff is being warehoused.


Second off, it stops people form going to the creator's website which the creator had to put time and/or money into making.

One, not all creators have websites. Two, it may *make* more people go to the creator's websites. It depends on the person.


The only thing someone would say is good about it is the fact you can get a bunch of chars in one easy to go to spot.
But that is wrong. It come out of people being lazy, too lazy to use google or even care about searching.

Even warehouses must be Googled. I mean, as far as I know, the "legit" sites are the most advertised anyways. How much advertisement does warehousing sites get?

Frankly, I wonder if you really read my post.

Yes i read your post, and no it dosnt matter about intent, the ends do not justify the means.
So what if i character that is online is hard to find, its still online and shouldnt be warehoused
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Alexziq on September 11, 2007, 03:47:48 PM
Disrespectful depends on the creators feelings, things Ive done are warehoused, and it doesnt offend me, or my teamates. But lets say it is disrespectful, how do you combat it?

Creators have a choice to deal with it, or quit. It wont stop, and the fact is the majority of people with this hobby will, or have downloaded something off a wharehouse at some point. I just dont see how you combat it. Guys get flagged on esnips all the time, and the files are back up in a couple days. I know, I tried to get something pulled off a guys site. What eventually worked was just asking him to remove it nicely, and he did.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on September 11, 2007, 04:11:50 PM
Well some mugen creators have more faith in humanity than Jesus himself. If something is online just don't host it. If something is offline, I believe it should be hosted. This is the kind of content IMO should be hosted. Private and WIPs shouldn't be hosted.  If a warehouse housed only offline creations, that is ok with me. I see nothing wrong with sendspacing publicly offline creations as well. If everyone and their mother can pm you or ask you to email you the creation, it is just the same as hosting on a send space or mega share, etc.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 12, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
Here's my opinion.

Is the act of warehousing bad?: To me, not really.

What about leaked characters and privates: That's bad. And while the thought that some people are so sensitive to anyone even messing with a copy of their character that they go private bugs me, I don't believe privates should be leaked to the public, if only for the fact that it involves ruined trust.

Online: I'll admit, some online creations are really, freaking hard to find. Still  <_<|...| <_<|google|

Offline: Yeah.

Warehouses ruining Mugen?: To me, it's not really warehousing ruining mugen, moreso people's responses to it. And peoples responses to it ends up making more warehousers (say, making a character private). Really, to me, if people mostly just stopped caring if a horribly unfinished beta gets warehoused, then there would be fewer problems.

Warehousers steal!!!: Debatable.

What?: To me, there are 3 main kinds of warehousers/warehouse supporters. The ones who don't know what they are doing, the "spite warehousers" who warehouse stuff out of spite, and the "Robin Hood Warehouser", who tries to help the community with warehousing.

 :) :-j Scissors beats paper!

 >o:-( :) But Cutman beats scissors!


How do you think the act of warehousing is not bad?

Read my post.


 I dont understand that...

First off its totaly disrespectful.

Depends on intent and what's being warehoused, and who's stuff is being warehoused.


Second off, it stops people form going to the creator's website which the creator had to put time and/or money into making.

One, not all creators have websites. Two, it may *make* more people go to the creator's websites. It depends on the person.


The only thing someone would say is good about it is the fact you can get a bunch of chars in one easy to go to spot.
But that is wrong. It come out of people being lazy, too lazy to use google or even care about searching.

Even warehouses must be Googled. I mean, as far as I know, the "legit" sites are the most advertised anyways. How much advertisement does warehousing sites get?

Frankly, I wonder if you really read my post.

Yes i read your post, and no it dosnt matter about intent, the ends do not justify the means.
So what if i character that is online is hard to find, its still online and shouldnt be warehoused

I never said online stuff should be warehoused. Why do you think I had  <_<|google| ?

In short, I said that warehousing isn't so bad, but I don't agree with warehousing leaked betas, privates, and online creations. I'm not pro- or anti- warehousing, but I don't agree with *most* warehousing.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: dennis872005 on September 12, 2007, 03:14:26 PM
they are good in a sense. since most people go to warehouses at the beginning because they are unaware of how the mugen community is ran. also while i do not care if warehouse go or stay i will not be in a crusade to crucify people that create warehouses. i mean why take such a big time for that when one can be creating or enjoying life.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: SdotThaDon on September 12, 2007, 07:49:50 PM
I never said online stuff should be warehoused. Why do you think I had  <_<|google| ?

In short, I said that warehousing isn't so bad, but I don't agree with warehousing leaked betas, privates, and online creations. I'm not pro- or anti- warehousing, but I don't agree with *most* warehousing.

I pretty much agree with your stance. But privates and betas getting warehoused are truly the creators fault for trusting someone online. 8-} If you care this much for your work, don't share it until its done. I suppose having an anticipated wip is alot of pressure for some, but don't give in. Make em wait....... :-w
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 13, 2007, 12:32:46 AM
I'm wondering when a lot of people will realize in 99% of cases where a private character is passed around, it's becuase it's a private beta to be tested for releasing at a later time. It's basically a matter of getting it tested, checked out, and as perfect as possible before releasing in these cases.

You should rarely condemn a creator for having a leak hit them: it's bad enough they got screwed, they don't need some random guy who knows jack about them how they should do their business and that it's their fault. You should be finding and bashing the leaker if it was an act of maliscousness, being more concerned on preventing him from having access to anyone else that may be violated.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Spidermew on September 13, 2007, 12:42:47 AM
I'm wondering when a lot of people will realize in 99% of cases where a private character is passed around, it's becuase it's a private beta to be tested for releasing at a later time. It's basically a matter of getting it tested, checked out, and as perfect as possible before releasing in these cases.

You should rarely condemn a creator for having a leak hit them: it's bad enough they got screwed, they don't need some random guy who knows jack about them how they should do their business and that it's their fault. You should be finding and bashing the leaker if it was an act of maliscousness, being more concerned on preventing him from having access to anyone else that may be violated.

I totaly agree with you. It hurts when you get your trust violated. Im going to be very careful when i pick my beta testers.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on September 13, 2007, 12:52:24 AM
I'm wondering when a lot of people will realize in 99% of cases where a private character is passed around, it's becuase it's a private beta to be tested for releasing at a later time. It's basically a matter of getting it tested, checked out, and as perfect as possible before releasing in these cases.

You should rarely condemn a creator for having a leak hit them: it's bad enough they got screwed, they don't need some random guy who knows jack about them how they should do their business and that it's their fault. You should be finding and bashing the leaker if it was an act of maliscousness, being more concerned on preventing him from having access to anyone else that may be violated.

Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me. If a creator has his/her creations leaked more than once, there is a problem. I would believe the 1st time around, or even maybe the 2nd time around should help you realize who you should and shouldn't trust and maybe rethink on how to do betas\. Releasing a private beta to be testing to 25 of your friends online, is a problem. You should have no more IMO than 2 beta testers. Anymore than 2 is asking for trouble. However blaming a creator should be a case by case basis though, cause you don't know the circumstances on how the creation was leaked.

Spidermew, just have one or two people test it. You don't need a team to tell you what you need to fix it. If you have  anymore than 2 people IMO just have a public beta release and that way you could have alot more feedback on what to fix. Also make sure when you hand it out, somehow make each copy, unique so that way if someone does leak it, you know who it is.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: KPT25 on September 13, 2007, 12:55:28 AM
That`s exactly the root of the leaked chars problem...beta testers ppl! =D>
If you keep you char private ,but you decided to share it with someone else to check its bugs,make sure you know what kind of ppl you`re giving it to
If you don`t either keep it to yourself or expect a leak soon,that might lead to an unexpected release... \-/o
 >:-(-| i consider myself a trustful guy and i wouldn`t mind beta testing,,but believe me ,i don`t even think about becoming beta tester,as nobody will consider me as one to be honest...no rep at all...just some random guy hanging arround at a mugen forum... =D>
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Magma MK-II on September 13, 2007, 09:46:27 AM
Well some mugen creators have more faith in humanity than Jesus himself. If something is online just don't host it. If something is offline, I believe it should be hosted. This is the kind of content IMO should be hosted. Private and WIPs shouldn't be hosted.  If a warehouse housed only offline creations, that is ok with me. I see nothing wrong with sendspacing publicly offline creations as well. If everyone and their mother can pm you or ask you to email you the creation, it is just the same as hosting on a send space or mega share, etc.

Like I think. If the creation is online, it must be on the creators site. Even because sometimes the creators release new versions from his chars, with corrections of bugs and other stuff. So, the chars hosted in warehouses are old version with less good stuff and most bugs.
Most of warehousers just got a bunch of chars, host them, and just get away, leaving the creations abandoned. They not just don't support the creatos, they disrespect them by doing this!

The other side of the coin, some Mugen creators just vanish from the Mugen community, without telling anyone, and leavin his creations alone, like MostMysterious. In this case, I don't see problems in hosting these chars, cuz they're offline, and the creator don't care about it.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: SdotThaDon on September 13, 2007, 09:50:54 AM
I'm wondering when a lot of people will realize in 99% of cases where a private character is passed around, it's becuase it's a private beta to be tested for releasing at a later time. It's basically a matter of getting it tested, checked out, and as perfect as possible before releasing in these cases.

You should rarely condemn a creator for having a leak hit them: it's bad enough they got screwed, they don't need some random guy who knows jack about them how they should do their business and that it's their fault. You should be finding and bashing the leaker if it was an act of maliscousness, being more concerned on preventing him from having access to anyone else that may be violated.

While this is true I believe you totally missed what I was getting at here. By no means am I condeming a creator whose work was leaked, I'm stating that: No sharing unfinished business=No leak.
Where's the rationality in trusting someone you only communicate with through the net? <_<|...|
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Kung Fu Man on September 13, 2007, 10:10:59 AM
Quote
Where's the rationality in trusting someone you only communicate with through the net?

Given how thoroughly some of these guys are and the fact they've resorted to hacking, at this point having it on your PC and being online could be risk enough. And no, I'm not exaggerating sadly  ???
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: nick09 on September 13, 2007, 10:11:49 AM
heres the bottom line.

WAREHOUSERS are BAD.

and if an character got leaked being an beta. someone just annoyed the beta testers intill they said "ALL RIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU HIM BUT DO NOT LEAK IT!!!" and then the annoying person leaks it end of story...
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: SdotThaDon on September 13, 2007, 10:24:26 AM
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Where's the rationality in trusting someone you only communicate with through the net?

Given how thoroughly some of these guys are and the fact they've resorted to hacking, at this point having it on your PC and being online could be risk enough. And no, I'm not exaggerating sadly  ???

Yeah that's ridiculous. L-) One thing I've always said in these debates is it's not that serious.....really people will risk jail time for a mugen character? ~X(

and if an character got leaked being an beta. someone just annoyed the beta testers intill they said "ALL RIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU HIM BUT DO NOT LEAK IT!!!" and then the annoying person leaks it end of story...

That's weak, I beta tested not too long ago and I had no problems....sadly another tester leaked the character eventually. I've been bugged in Pm's and other forums for chars, I refuse to let someone make my mind up for me by spamming. There are better ways to handle it than saying f*** it, here's the beta. :-w
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Alexziq on September 13, 2007, 11:01:00 AM
I'm wondering when a lot of people will realize in 99% of cases where a private character is passed around, it's becuase it's a private beta to be tested for releasing at a later time. It's basically a matter of getting it tested, checked out, and as perfect as possible before releasing in these cases.

You should rarely condemn a creator for having a leak hit them: it's bad enough they got screwed, they don't need some random guy who knows jack about them how they should do their business and that it's their fault. You should be finding and bashing the leaker if it was an act of maliscousness, being more concerned on preventing him from having access to anyone else that may be violated.

And on the same token the Mugen Creators shouldnt blame the Mugen Community for leaks like Slotman did. Blame your Beta Tester instead of posting a big crybaby rant that makes everybody feel like Sh*t for something they didnt do.

 If it comes down to a Creator vs Mugen community issue with a leak I'm taking the community's side because its the job of the creator to pick the right people not to leak stuff. Blaming innocent people for your own poor judgement isnt right in any way, shape, or form. This is the kind of crap that scorns these guys in wharehousing. However I wouldnt ever point my finger, and blame a creator for a leak. I just wish the same respect was given, instead of all the meltdowns.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Spidermew on September 13, 2007, 11:54:27 AM
Where's the rationality in trusting someone you only communicate with through the net? <_<|...|

Well you talk to someone for long enough and your honest with them you kinda get to thinking that they might be honest too.

I met my ex fiance online. You see lots of things can happen though the internet.
Given how thoroughly some of these guys are and the fact they've resorted to hacking, at this point having it on your PC and being online could be risk enough. And no, I'm not exaggerating sadly  ???

WOW! Ive never heard of anyone resorting to hacking... man if they got the time and skills to hack someone's computer for a character why cant they take the time and make one themselfs
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: yamblack on September 13, 2007, 01:27:54 PM
heres the bottom line.

WAREHOUSERS are BAD.

and if an character got leaked being an beta. someone just annoyed the beta testers intill they said "ALL RIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU HIM BUT DO NOT LEAK IT!!!" and then the annoying person leaks it end of story...
Ah, I see. You've not only mentioned the fairly obvious, you have no reasoning behind what you're saying.  =D>
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on September 13, 2007, 05:11:04 PM
heres the bottom line.

WAREHOUSERS are BAD.

and if an character got leaked being an beta. someone just annoyed the beta testers intill they said "ALL RIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU HIM BUT DO NOT LEAK IT!!!" and then the annoying person leaks it end of story...
No the person that gave that annoying person the beta leaked it. Under NO circumstance should you give a private beta to anyone. If that person annoys you, block him. Ignore him, tell the staff on the fourms if he is on that forum about the guy, but you DON'T give it to him. It isn't the annoying persons fault that it got leaked, it was the beta tester's fault.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: SdotThaDon on September 13, 2007, 05:31:45 PM
heres the bottom line.

WAREHOUSERS are BAD.

and if an character got leaked being an beta. someone just annoyed the beta testers intill they said "ALL RIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU HIM BUT DO NOT LEAK IT!!!" and then the annoying person leaks it end of story...
No the person that gave that annoying person the beta leaked it. Under NO circumstance should you give a private beta to anyone. If that person annoys you, block him. Ignore him, tell the staff on the fourms if he is on that forum about the guy, but you DON'T give it to him. It isn't the annoying persons fault that it got leaked, it was the beta tester's fault.

 =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
Exactly.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 14, 2007, 12:31:43 AM
heres the bottom line.

WAREHOUSERS are BAD.

and if an character got leaked being an beta. someone just annoyed the beta testers intill they said "ALL RIGHT I WILL GIVE YOU HIM BUT DO NOT LEAK IT!!!" and then the annoying person leaks it end of story...
No the person that gave that annoying person the beta leaked it. Under NO circumstance should you give a private beta to anyone. If that person annoys you, block him. Ignore him, tell the staff on the fourms if he is on that forum about the guy, but you DON'T give it to him. It isn't the annoying persons fault that it got leaked, it was the beta tester's fault.

Yeah, you'd think that if someone was annoying you for a beta, that would make you *less likely* to give them a character.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: yamblack on September 14, 2007, 02:47:04 PM
Yeah, you'd think that if someone was annoying you for a beta, that would make you *less likely* to give them a character.
:O

NO BOLD BLUE FONT?
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: skulldragger on September 14, 2007, 03:37:37 PM
i see everyones point but think of a warehouse like a library, why not keep every char in one location for ex your pc crashed and you lost everything well go to the warehouse and look it up.

now leaks are mostly people trusting the wrong people or pissing off the good people. this was all meant to be free and everyone have fun right?  then why argue over a hobby?

 most of the chars i gotten where on a certain warehouse, how is it fair if one person has a really good roster of rare and private chars and the rest of the public has what we get from forums??
 
to me mugen is worse than the real government.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 14, 2007, 04:06:07 PM
Yeah, you'd think that if someone was annoying you for a beta, that would make you *less likely* to give them a character.
:O

NO BOLD BLUE FONT?

IT GOT MELTED IN THE LAVA SO SHUT UP!!!

Don't take that seriously.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: b.easy on September 14, 2007, 04:18:45 PM
I hope everything i release gets warehoused, because i have no plans on making a site to host my stuff. 8-} :-j
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Lightblackheart on September 14, 2007, 05:29:19 PM
I hope everything i release gets warehoused, because i have no plans on making a site to host my stuff. 8-} :-j

¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿???????????????  are you CRAZY!!!!!!!! XD||
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on September 14, 2007, 05:33:30 PM
it's almost like open source lightblackheart
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Lightblackheart on September 14, 2007, 05:37:09 PM
oh sorry pal
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Error Macro on September 14, 2007, 05:49:00 PM
I hope everything i release gets warehoused, because i have no plans on making a site to host my stuff. 8-} :-j
Nice font.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on September 14, 2007, 06:05:28 PM
I hope everything i release gets warehoused, because i have no plans on making a site to host my stuff. 8-} :-j
Nice font.

Let's not start *that* again...
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Error Macro on September 14, 2007, 06:13:26 PM
I hope everything i release gets warehoused, because i have no plans on making a site to host my stuff. 8-} :-j
Nice font.

Let's not start *that* again...
lol, I was just kidding.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: yamblack on September 14, 2007, 06:31:18 PM
I hope everything i release gets warehoused, because i have no plans on making a site to host my stuff. 8-} :-j
Nice font.

Let's not start *that* again...
NICE FONT.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: ★Leon★ on September 14, 2007, 06:36:07 PM
  >:-(-|     :DxDie
 
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: Toasty on September 15, 2007, 08:41:19 AM
my view on warehouses is that, they carry the exact same characters thats been around since the dawn of Mugen, so really its nothing too huge (except the fact that they shouldn't have taken them anyways). They also carry a vast majority of incomplete characters that are in BETA and they wonder why people who get them end up either having their M.U.G.E.N crash or they take up HD space. It's not too hard to find Holy Ken or Nightmare Broli anymore as it used to be with every existing warehouse there is still existing.

I agree that they should be in one location or two, instead of searching thousands of sites to get that one character thats in a foreign site that barely anybody can understand or read from. This is just a thought or a concern, but why can't there be one huge mugen site, that carries just about every creator's mugen character ever made?. But yea, all that the warehousers carry is mostly out-dated characters whilst us here at Infinity and other mugen sites are creating up-to-date characters, wouldn't surprise me if the warehousers still have the characters they took 10 years from now while creators have everything brand new made.

I also look at warehousing as a simpler way to shut N00bs up, instead of them begging for every little thing and they think they are so good they have out-dated powerful chars but they end up getting their asses PWNed anyways by players that have high experience and skill.
Title: Re: about warehouses.........
Post by: malisiousjoe on September 15, 2007, 01:42:38 PM
Simple they'll never go away and will always be around. The fact that people want one place to get all their chars/stages/whatever is why they exist. To most of the community they are wrong. Now that the bottom line...
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