Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 02:46:03 AM
I'm new to this forum, and have only learned a little bit about MUGEN for the past two months.
I have been going to many different forums, and I have to say this is definitely one of my favorites.
The reason I am posting today is because I'm a huge fighter arcade fan, like most of you on here.
Ever sense my two favorite fighter titles, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, and Super Smash Bros. I have had my own dream of one of the best fighters of all time, that I believe all arcade fighter, capcom, and nintendo fans would enjoy.
Combining both Marvel vs. Capcom 2's fighting mechanics and expansive roster with Nintendo's vast library of colorful and memorable characters, there could be a great fighter called "Nintendo vs. Capcom."
Using MUGEN I have collected many different characters over the internet. With capcom I was much more successful (Because of so many characters being ripped.) However Nintendo's been much more difficult because, even though many characters have been made, none of them really match or are proportionate to the capcom cast.
I am relaying this message for all the character makers, stage builders, programmers, and whatever else is needed to make something as good as the "Super Marvel Vs. Capcom: EoH" demo.
I'm hoping to keep all the characters within proportion and they're all within the same style and well-animated sprites with decent AI (Not Godly AI, mind you.)
As far as the roster, here is the list for both sides. There are 75 characters per side. 150 characters total. (It's a lot I know...) Plus a random block for each side.
Note: Any character with a * beside them is a character you have to unlock.
Here's the list:
NINTENDO SIDE
MARIO BROS.
1) Mario
2) Luigi
3) Peach
4) Daisy*
5) Bowser
6) Rosalina*
LEGEND OF ZELDA
7) Link
8) Zelda
9) Shiek
10) Ganondorf
11) Toon Link*
12) Midna*
13) Tingle*
14) Vaati*
STARFOX
15) Fox McCloud
16) Falco Lambardi
17) Wolf O'Donnel*
18) Krystal*
PIKMIN
19) Olimar
POKEMON
20) Pikachu
21) Jigglypuff
22) Lucario*
23) Mewtwo*
24) P. Trainer
FIRE EMBLEM
25) Marth
26) Roy*
27) Lyn*
28) Ike
WARIO WORLD/WARE
29) Wario
30) Waluigi*
31) Mona
32) Ashley
33) Jimmy T.
F-ZERO
34) Capt. Falcon
35) Black Shadow*
GOLDEN SUN
36) Isacc
37) Felix*
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY
38) Donkey Kong
40) Diddy Kong
41) Dixie Kong*
42) King K. Rool*
MOTHER
43) Ness
44) Paula
45) Poo
45) Porky*
46) Lucas
47) Duster*
48) Kumatora
49) Claus*
ICE CLIMBER
50) Popo & Nana
KID ICARUS
51) Pit
KIRBY
52) Kirby
53) Meta-Knight
54) King Dedede
55) Gooey*
YOSHI
56) Yoshi
ANIMAL CROSSING
57) K.K.Slider*
58) Tom Nook
METROID
59) Samus
60) Zero Suit Samus
61) Ridley*
LEGENDARY STARFY
62) Starfy
PUNCH-OUT
63) Little Mac
SIN & PUNISHMENT
64) Saki A.
BALLOON KID
65) Alice
MAGICAL STARSIGN
66) Latte (The main boy character of the game. I named him this considering all the characters you play are named after something you can buy at a coffee shop.)
CHIBI ROBO
67) Chibi Robo
CUSTOM ROBO
68) Ray MK III
PANEL DE PON (JAPAN ONLY)
69) Lip
ADVANCE WARS
70) Andy
CAPTAIN RAINBOW (JAPAN ONLY)
71) Capt. Rainbow
NAZO NO MURASAMEJO (JAPAN ONLY)
72) Takamaru
GAME & WATCH
73) Mr. Game & Watch*
STACK-UP/GYROMITE
74) R.O.B.*
HANAFUDA
75) Rain-man*
CAPCOM SIDE
STREET FIGHTER
1) Ryu
2) Ken
3) Chun-Li
4) Dan
5) Blanka
6) Sakura
7) Guile
8) Dhalsim
9) Zangief
10) Cammy*
11) Sagat
12) Akuma*
13) M.Bison
DARKSTALKERS
14) Morrigan
15) Donovan
16) Demitri
17) B. B. Hood
18) J. Talbain
19) Felicia
20) Anakaris
21) Lei Lei
22) Pyron*
23) Jedah*
MEGAMAN / X / BATTLE NETWORK / LEGENDS
24) Megaman
25) Roll
26) Protoman*
27) Bass*
28) T. Bonne
29) Servbot*
30) Megaman X
31) Zero*
CAPTAIN COMMANDO
32) Capt. Commando
33) Baby Head*
GHOSTS 'N' GHOULS
34) Arthur
35) Red Arremer*
RESIDENT EVIL
36) Jill Valentine
37) Leon S. Kennedy
38) Chris Redfield
39) Wesker*
40) Nemesis*
DEVIL MAY CRY
41) Dante
42) Virgil*
43) Nero*
OKAMI
44) Amaterasu
45) Waka*
VIEWTIFUL JOE
46) Viewtiful Joe
47) Sexy Sylvia*
48) Captain Blue*
POWER STONE
49) Falcon
50) Gunrock
51) Rouge
52) Ayame
53) Wang Tang
54) Ryoma
55) Jack*
FINAL FIGHT
56) Haggar
STRIDER HIRYU
57) Hiryu
ZACK & WIKI
58) Zack
VS. CAPCOM
59) Ruby Heart
60) Amingo
61) Ingrid*
62) Norimaro*
SONSON
63) SonSon
RED EARTH
64) Leo
65) Tessa
CYBERBOTS
66) Jin
STAR GLADIATOR
67) Hayato
LOST PLANET
68) Wayne
DEADRISING
69) Frank West
BIONIC COMMANDO
70) Radd Spencer
BREATH OF FIRE
71) Ryu Buteson
72) Nina
73) Bow*
74) Katt*
75) Rand*
Here's a link to a pic I made for a make-shift roster:
http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/TreyFox/?action=view¤t=NvC-Roster.png (http://s599.photobucket.com/albums/tt74/TreyFox/?action=view¤t=NvC-Roster.png)
If you are interested in building any of these characters, or stages for the characters, especially on the Nintendo side, let me know and I would like to discuss about how the character could be built.
I will later be posting a list of capcom characters that won't be needing building because I already have them and within the Marvel vs. Capcom style and context.
Once again, I'm just an idea guy, but I would really like to hear and see support from other people that are as enthusiastic about these ideas as I am.
Would love to hear any positive thoughts or comments.
Really looking for the support.
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 08, 2009, 03:58:13 AM
However, I will say this:
Biospark Before Gooey, he's like, a million times cooler, also, I made up a moveset for him already.
might work on him, maybe probably sometime in the distant future.
;)
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 05:42:22 AM
I am also learning bit by bit. However I'm a terrible sprite maker, and I know the nintendo sprites would all have to be made from scratch to go with the capcom characters style and animation.
There's no way I could build the whole thing on my own regardless.
Either way, would you be interested in being a character builder? It's just nice to know I finally got a nibble after this was posted 3 hours ago. (Probably more.)
Post by: -Whiplash- on August 08, 2009, 06:09:20 AM
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 06:13:23 AM
If you were to work on any characters which would you be most interested in building? (Not signing you up or anything, just curious.)
Also if there's anyone else you know that you think would be interested in this, It would be great if you could let them know about it.
Are you developing characters for Super Marvel vs. Capcom: EoH?
Post by: b.easy on August 08, 2009, 10:04:23 AM
Just so you know, its considered rude to ask someone to make a character at about every mugen forum in the community.
There are lots of tutorials that show you how you can make sprites or code, and if you can do one or the other then you'll have a better chance of getting the character you want to see so badly done.
Feel free to check out the tutorial section, you can make sprites or code things yourself.
Good Luck %%-
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on August 08, 2009, 10:06:22 AM
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 03:18:59 PM
As I have said in a previous post, I am learning to do some of this stuff myself bit by bit. It just confuses me a little bit that you would say it's rude to request a character for mugen on any forum when theres a whole section here dedicated to requesting things.
I know I could do a lot of this myself, but then it's a bit insane to completely go this project alone if you've seen what I said in mind. I'm just looking to see who's interested in working on the project with me.
If you don't want to, just say so. You don't have to insult my intelligence over it.
Either way, if there's a section dedicated to it, then I don't think it's being rude. I think it's just asking who's interested.
Thanks for wishing me luck, though.
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 03:20:46 PM
He's my fav Fire Emblem guy!
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 03:22:42 PM
Post by: Worksa8 on August 08, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
I'm just saying maybe you should make one character or something, THEN try and recruit people, you will have MUCH greater luck. And maybe make a much smaller roster, because even with a team, you won't be able to finish that many characters...at least with good quality to boot...
Good luck, and welcome to Mugen.
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 03:26:01 PM
I missed Roy too. I he was my best character in Melee before Brawl rolled in.
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 03:26:28 PM
If it were a smash bros. title I would consider it, but sense I am trying to do strictly "Nintendo vs. Capcom" here, no. Duke Nukem wouldn't quality. Even though he is an awesome character.
Sorry to get annoying,
But when he's a beta or alpha,can I have him?
Post by: Worksa8 on August 08, 2009, 03:28:27 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Up8bv8aD4zg/SgT-t0p6lhI/AAAAAAAAAKg/FOX5aVWS0Lk/s320/Preview005.png)
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 03:32:28 PM
I know that it would take a lot of work and a large team effort to make what I'm dreaming a reality. I figured that before posting. That is why I am on this forum asking in the first place. Right now it's just me. I am looking for people who's willing to support the project. I appreciate the concern whole-heartedly though.
Post Merge: August 08, 2009, 03:35:05 PM
It's no bother. Sure. Whomever gets him or makes him, (be it me or someone else) I'll have the character posted.
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 03:36:34 PM
ROY!
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 03:39:31 PM
Post by: Worksa8 on August 08, 2009, 03:40:29 PM
I just can't explain how vast what your trying to attempt is, I guess we just have to let you see for yourself. I do think this project has a chance, but not with the bar set so high at the beginning.
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 03:41:51 PM
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on August 08, 2009, 03:45:29 PM
Wasn't a MvC style-ish Duke Nukem released already? The half decent one with the pipebombs? =P
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Up8bv8aD4zg/SgT-t0p6lhI/AAAAAAAAAKg/FOX5aVWS0Lk/s320/Preview005.png)
I have that one (and no, I didn't make it). He was the first MUGEN character I ever downloaded, and I almost completed Arcade mode with him once (long story short: got killed by Akuma and nearly broke the keyboard). I'll PM you the link.
Post by: Worksa8 on August 08, 2009, 03:46:01 PM
:'(Hey I wouldn't mind a Roy character either, I just think he should take small steps at a time. It's quite possible to do a project like this, if you approach it properly.
EDIT: (I know you didn't make him, and I already have the character. I just forgot who made him and didn't check the readme before posting that)
Post by: Mugendude26 on August 08, 2009, 03:47:35 PM
Post by: DukeNukem 2417 on August 08, 2009, 03:48:04 PM
Post by: Nestor on August 08, 2009, 03:49:14 PM
As I have said in a previous post, I am learning to do some of this stuff myself bit by bit. It just confuses me a little bit that you would say it's rude to request a character for mugen on any forum when theres a whole section here dedicated to requesting things.
Request a created char is different to request the creation of a char.
I should suggest you begin with something more smaller. Considering that half of those characters will need custom sprites, I think that a quantity of 12 good characters can be great for a beginning. You can have updates, this is MUGEN.
See you, good luck.
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 03:55:12 PM
What else do you believe I should do? I want to keep this project alive as much as possible.
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 03:57:50 PM
Post by: Mugendude26 on August 08, 2009, 03:58:57 PM
You might be right about the bar being high. I suppose I will make a character, too.
What else do you believe I should do? I want to keep this project alive as much as possible.
First start on an easy character that doesn't have a lot of sprites. These characters in my opinion are the easiest to make. Think of attacks for the character or use attacks from the games they appeared in. Work on the character little by little each day, don't rush unless you want people to dislike the character. If you need help, PM me.
Post by: Worksa8 on August 08, 2009, 03:59:42 PM
I think you should learn to code a character before you begin spriting, or recruiting a sprite artist, so you know you can put them to good use.
Then, when you feel ready, why not start with only one character, then two, then three. then figure out a stage or two....after that, getting your own website helps a LOT.
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 04:03:08 PM
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 08, 2009, 04:05:33 PM
Post by: Mugendude26 on August 08, 2009, 04:09:50 PM
http://tsgk.captainn.net/index.php?p=sheetinfo&t=1415 (http://tsgk.captainn.net/index.php?p=sheetinfo&t=1415)
Dude, there is no need for you to post the link to the sprite sheet two times in different posts.
Post by: MaverickZr0 on August 08, 2009, 04:26:54 PM
This is as far as I ever got to making Roy. I gave up since I had to make more than half of it from scratch, I wasn't about to make like 300 frames. Anyway, still not satisfied with it.
Post by: Worksa8 on August 08, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
Post by: TreyFox on August 08, 2009, 10:39:16 PM
Post by: Irockz on August 11, 2009, 09:06:32 AM
Post by: Acey on August 11, 2009, 10:17:03 AM
1) Screen pack: You've already noted that you have found many of these characters already made on the internet, which means you don't particually intent to make them again. Perhaps rather than starting by trying to make a full game you should just simply make a Screen Pack. By making a Nintendo vs. Capcom motif Screen Pack you, and many others, will be able to add existing characters to the mugen engine and start building your own Nintendo vs. Capcom game.
2) Just one character: so often an excited new patron to the mugen arts makes a dream roster of all the characters they would like to have in their game and claim that they are going to make that game. Unfortunately most people get burned out eventually because they expected that others would participate more, yet they themselves have hardly accomplished anything. If you really intend on a chieving your goals all you need to do it pick just one character and get started. Every journey begins with the first step.
(Helpful hint: when you make a full mugen game, it is only appropraite to upload characters that either you have made or have gotten permission to use in the game. Many creators frown upon others using their hard work without their permission in a project they have no connection to. This is another reason why a Screen Pack is a good place to start.)
Post by: Irockz on August 11, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
(oh, and Dr Mario ftw)
Post by: teeno312 on August 12, 2009, 04:20:52 PM
TOO-MANY-CHARS
if your make a full game then start off small and work your way up [-X
Post by: Worksa8 on August 12, 2009, 04:48:10 PM
3 wordsYes Teeno, everyone has already established that, and he has agreed that would be the best option xD
TOO-MANY-CHARS
if your make a full game then start off small and work your way up [-X
Post by: TreyFox on August 12, 2009, 11:06:18 PM
I'm curious with all the advice you gave me. Erm... Not to sound dumb. I'm still learning, but... What's a Screen Pack? X3
Post Merge: August 12, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
Thank you, Works.
Post by: Worksa8 on August 13, 2009, 09:15:12 AM
Check the screenpacks section of the database for better examples.
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 16, 2009, 02:11:44 PM
Post by: Izanagi on August 16, 2009, 02:23:52 PM
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 17, 2009, 07:31:33 PM
Yes Teeno, everyone has already established that, and he has agreed that would be the best option xDRoy's still gonna be in,RIGHT!?!?!?!
Post by: Error Macro on August 17, 2009, 07:32:45 PM
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 17, 2009, 07:34:41 PM
Roy and Luigi are all that matter!
I HATE MARIO MORE THAN ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Error Macro on August 17, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
Post by: seneyu on August 17, 2009, 07:36:44 PM
Post by: KenFan9276 - Member of CROM on August 17, 2009, 07:38:07 PM
Roy's AWESOME imo :/fixed!
Post by: shootYr. on August 17, 2009, 07:38:22 PM
Now that was just uncalled for.
I know. It's the rudest post he's ever made.
and Marth better be in this because I voted for him several times.
OMG! I LOVE MARTH!!!!!!!!!11111111111111 xDxDDDDD
Double Fixed
Post by: Izanagi on August 17, 2009, 07:48:57 PM
Seriously thou, nobody is in until he has a WIP made
Post by: seneyu on August 17, 2009, 10:01:04 PM
fixed!
....Don't touch my posts ok? OKAY!?
Post by: DanOwnsall112 on August 27, 2009, 05:32:25 AM
I would suggest taking your hand in CvS2 type spriting and not just MvC spriting
so (in my opinion ) the game will have a little bit more feel, plus I imagine some Nintendo characters will be hard to sprite/sprite edit in MvC style
You have got a very decent project here and I wish you luck in the future :thumbsup:
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on August 27, 2009, 08:33:01 PM
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6159/littlemac.png)it looks like his other hand his gone
I would suggest taking your hand in CvS2 type spriting and not just MvC spriting
so (in my opinion ) the game will have a little bit more feel, plus I imagine some Nintendo characters will be hard to sprite/sprite edit in MvC style
You have got a very decent project here and I wish you luck in the future :thumbsup:
Roy sucks imo :/nah roys ok
Post by: zombiejerky on September 10, 2009, 01:00:12 AM