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Title: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on June 14, 2009, 04:55:31 AM
i am working on a iron spider mugen char and it is now 78% here is the stance and here are some videos.

(http://img197.imageshack.us/i/stance.gif/)
stance

[youtube=425,350]ISwu5ZAQWU4[/youtube]
video

[youtube=425,350]_DTx5KkYHys[/youtube]
2nd video

Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: .Batzarro. on June 14, 2009, 05:02:27 AM
(http://img197.imageshack.us/i/stance.gif)
stance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISwu5ZAQWU4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISwu5ZAQWU4#)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DTx5KkYHys# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DTx5KkYHys#)

Thought I'd post this for you since it's not showing up in your first post. Still won't show the stance for some reason though.

Anyways, pretty good for a first WIP. Though the tentacles could use more work and could be utilized a bit more in the char. Either way, it's a learning process and I'm sure you'll improve over time. Good job. :)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on June 14, 2009, 05:40:20 AM
here i am trying again to post the new stance

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/98d1861fb9.gif) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Jmaxximus on June 14, 2009, 07:13:06 AM
here i am trying again to post the new stance

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/98d1861fb9.gif) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Thats a good stance. May need a few more frames the idea is good.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Rage on June 14, 2009, 07:46:06 AM
looking good so far i say the steel arms are the onlt thing that  needs work now.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: spiderclone on June 14, 2009, 10:27:01 AM
everything needs to be redone
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: BLue BoMBeR on June 14, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
you can use shuma gorath's tentacles ;*))
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Warrior on June 14, 2009, 03:40:52 PM
Hey, I have some suggestions;

-I think you should start over...the shading is really poor...try finding a Spiderman character with a single colour pallete, and then ask the creator if you can use the sprites from that character. Off the top of my head, Erradicator made one. But remember to ask for permission

-For the tentacles, try constructing it out of marrow's bones....

-Lastly, you can always refer to this thread for colours, etc.
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Marvel_The_Outsider/index.php?showtopic=383..I (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Marvel_The_Outsider/index.php?showtopic=383..I) like Dark Claw's concept personally...

Good luck ::salute::
-Turbanator
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: PsychoticMarik on June 14, 2009, 03:43:53 PM
here i am trying again to post the new stance

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/98d1861fb9.gif) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
This looks alot better, although the right leg(spidermans right leg)looks really awkward.
I like the stance, but that leg is just wierd looking...
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on June 14, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
Hey, I have some suggestions;

-I think you should start over...the shading is really poor...try finding a Spiderman character with a single colour pallete, and then ask the creator if you can use the sprites from that character. Off the top of my head, Erradicator made one. But remember to ask for permission

-For the tentacles, try constructing it out of marrow's bones....

-Lastly, you can always refer to this thread for colours, etc.
http://z6.invisionfree.com/Marvel_The_Outsider/index.php?showtopic=383..I (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Marvel_The_Outsider/index.php?showtopic=383..I) like Dark Claw's concept personally...

Good luck ::salute::
-Turbanator

 ^^(PM)^ 

Good Luck %%- to you   Iron Spider . I hope you complete this character with a good revamp of the sprites
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Rage on June 15, 2009, 10:52:49 PM
Okay i guess it time to lay down the hammer, tell the real biz. Okay this is good for a start but . . . .. . .


Stance_  the stance isnt that bad but needs some more frames and movement. As of now u got one frame sliding up and down. Not good, have him move stightly other then a cheap sliding.  Also spiderman in nibble but standing on the tip of his foot is unatural, even for him. Hes not a ballet dancer.

Tenticacles_  They look like wet noodles. they need sum stucture. Iron spiders legs are in three segmentsnot counting the feet. I like the fact that u stayed wit the original design of three legs but they need shape.

Shading_ he looks like he came out of a coloring book. His name is iron spider but yet hes a flat red wit no shading let alone any highlights to inidcate that he;s wearing metal



Why my oppinion change? Cuz b4 i was being nice and waiting to c were you were going to go and give more feed back as i c more but i see others feel u need to start this the right way and build up. In others words im in the wrong cuz i did give the feed back that could help u grow and depic a better image of what ur trying present. Rage is sorry.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on June 15, 2009, 11:47:38 PM
Not bad....

but i think the shading an be alot better and the spider arms could be be better as well... you should make him look more like he does in the comic...

here is an edit i did.... and i know he only has 3 arms... but i did 4 because i think he looks better with 4...because it is just an edit! :D

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn126/Sic-1/IronSpidey.png)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Acey on June 15, 2009, 11:50:37 PM
 ^^(PM)^

Iron Spider, you took on one big job. All those tenticles will be a daunting task to make sure the just don't look like cheap MS Paint lines.

It would be best to draw just the tenticles separatly and animate them. Make one version for the stance, one for moving forwards (works for attacking too), crouch attacks, jump attacks and for the "get hit" sprites. This way you're only making about 7 different tenticle animations, they don't even have to be that different. At that point you'll have to learn programming and code in the tenticles as "helpers" much like Captain America's shield.

Keep up the good work, you'll get there.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Rage on June 16, 2009, 12:14:33 AM
Not bad....

but i think the shading an be alot better and the spider arms could be be better as well... you should make him look more like he does in the comic...

here is an edit i did.... and i know he only has 3 arms... but i did 4 because i think he looks better with 4...because it is just an edit! :D

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn126/Sic-1/IronSpidey.png)

 =D>
Title: starting over first new sprite
Post by: iron spider on July 06, 2009, 07:42:30 AM
i am starting over because i hear alot of people saying start over and now i show you the new sprite

here
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3637/ironspider.png) (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/ironspider.png/)



Title: Re: starting over first new sprite
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on July 06, 2009, 08:19:13 AM
i am starting over because i hear alot of people saying start over and now i show you the new sprite

here
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3637/ironspider.png) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/ironspider.png/)

it looks like he has a horn comming out of his head
Title: Re: starting over first new sprite
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on July 06, 2009, 10:01:56 AM
i am starting over because i hear alot of people saying start over and now i show you the new sprite

here
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3637/ironspider.png) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/ironspider.png/)


not soo much start over... just make sure you get all the detail iron spiderman needs...

you new edit shows a lil detail.. but where is the rest?

look at my edit... you can even use the same pallet if ya want, so you get more of a gold look.

but the spider on the chest needs to be more detailed... looks at the comics to get a better idea.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 06, 2009, 01:24:09 PM
...i know he only has 3 arms... but i did 4 because i think he looks better with 4...because it is just an edit! :D

(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn126/Sic-1/IronSpidey.png)

Well, the M.V.P. Scarlet Spiders have 4 arms, so well just say it's one of them.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on July 12, 2009, 11:37:22 PM
what about sludges iron spider from the amazing spiderman char
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2051/sprite1i.png)

Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: zxzero on July 13, 2009, 06:22:43 AM
i think his extra arms should come out when he does specials or supers, instead of always being out like doc octopus or sumthing, in the comics, they werent always out either, and it would be easier to sprite with less time, just have different moves, stance, and specials/supers, the potential of this spider-man is off the charts tho, good luck to you!
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Sparticus2299 on July 13, 2009, 08:17:32 PM
great sprite :)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on July 15, 2009, 11:07:43 PM
here is my redo i am keeping

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKRkimTSo3k[/video]

stance
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7171/newiga.gif)

standing light punch
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4491/newpunchb.gif)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Acey on July 15, 2009, 11:48:42 PM
what about sludges iron spider from the amazing spiderman char
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2051/sprite1i.png)



That sprite is by Jason Todd
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Founder of SonicX on July 16, 2009, 12:21:05 AM
Great Job if you need some tips on frankenspriting thats my talent
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on July 18, 2009, 08:21:33 AM
his punch needs like 2 more frames
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Sparticus2299 on July 23, 2009, 05:56:40 PM
i think his body needs to move too
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Mazta on July 24, 2009, 11:34:41 AM
surely still waiting but  %%-
btw i made my own palette of iron spider out of empawk's symbiote spider-man ;D
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: GodzillaKingofMonste on July 28, 2009, 01:12:39 AM
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn126/Sic-1/IronSpidey.png)
[/quote]


Im all for this one it looks the best and is the only one with 4 legs like in the comics as seen below


(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7927/ironspiderman.th.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/ironspiderman.jpg/)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: whitenoise21 on July 28, 2009, 01:39:51 AM
(http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn126/Sic-1/IronSpidey.png)



Im all for this one it looks the best and is the only one with 4 legs like in the comics as seen below


(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7927/ironspiderman.th.jpg) (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/ironspiderman.jpg/)

dude, count the legs again...
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: bdcirck on July 28, 2009, 04:06:49 AM
dude, count the legs again...
Well most other pictures have 4 yellow legs.

(http://www.samruby.com/Sen/Large/SensationalSpider-Man2V31.jpg)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: GodzillaKingofMonste on July 28, 2009, 05:17:28 AM
dude, count the legs again...


sun ofa bee-otch DAMN YOU SIMPLE ADDING!!! well after seeing that i miss added lol i decided to reread some comics and he does only have 3 for an odd reason so just cut a leg of those sprites and its all good
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 28, 2009, 01:24:12 PM
Well most other pictures have 4 yellow legs.

(http://www.samruby.com/Sen/Large/SensationalSpider-Man2V31.jpg)

You too, count the legs again.

Peter's suit never had 4 legs.

The Scarlet Spiders - Michael, Van, and Patrick- do have 4 legs on theirs. Well, at least Michael and Patrick since Van is dead.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e1/Scarlet_Spiders.jpg/200px-Scarlet_Spiders.jpg)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Useless on July 28, 2009, 08:09:58 PM
I think the answer about what to do here is pretty clear

a) You want to do Spider-Man in another one of his cotumes give him 3 mechanic legs

b) You want to make another character in a Spider-Man costume give him 4

Either way you're off on a great start. Keep it up. Looking forward to see what original moves you can give him.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Tenspeed on July 29, 2009, 01:13:36 AM
I have the action figure of parker in the suit, it has three "legs". I can take pictures if needed.
Title: this sprite is a clean fix i hope yous like it
Post by: iron spider on August 30, 2009, 02:08:18 AM
i will make it into a stance:

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2738/ironspideri.png)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: cnk on August 30, 2009, 10:58:13 AM
great spider... maybe we can do it together! XD

his arms was not always out... he uses the arms when he wants... see that

http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=25589.msg317656#msg317656 (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=25589.msg317656#msg317656)

Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on September 01, 2009, 06:14:53 AM
here is a stance i might need a few more tweaks........

under this   :2

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7108/idlew.gif)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on September 01, 2009, 10:50:39 AM
here is a stance i might need a few more tweaks........

under this   :2

(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7108/idlew.gif)


I like it , but I think his chest needs to move, also
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Slivern on September 01, 2009, 02:13:29 PM
I like it , but I think his chest needs to move, also

Yeah, it needs to show some breathing.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Tenspeed on September 01, 2009, 11:28:05 PM
I think the entire body needs to move. why not have him bobble back and forth a bit? it looks funky with the one leg not moving.
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on September 02, 2009, 06:34:58 AM
will do i will post it later......

 >:D

Post Merge: September 02, 2009, 07:47:12 AM
here is the finish result fixed chest legs and whole body movement hope yous like it......
 #:-S

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3446/idle1.gif)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Rage on September 02, 2009, 09:06:07 AM
There is a big problem.  As an animation  this hurts my eyes. The feet shouldnt be sliding. Do this test; stand up and strike a fighter stance, do many stances. notice how your feet dont move or if they do its one at a time. one leg must aways support your body wieght.

In this case however i feel that both feet need to stay in one position because his legs a spread far and it would look rather stange to be supported by one as  the other moves and in its current state the stance is unnatural
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on September 02, 2009, 10:53:01 AM
His opening & closing hand doesn't have enough frames in the animation. If you are going to make a hand open & close , you actually need to have many frames for that hand alone just to make it look smooth. I did the same thing at first with Medieval Spawn. I had 3 open & close frames. Now there is 9. 
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Worksa8 on September 02, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
Ease up on the chest just a little as well, it kinda looks like he is having a heart attack xD
(Or is the animation slower in-game?...)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on September 03, 2009, 01:42:19 AM
its not meant to be that fast.....

 :|

i am going to fix this like first i am going to do it like the first stance (new version):

> I am going to make him breath

> And i am going to make him have more frames in the hand............

it should make it at least more better.

and plus this is the final version i think it does not look weird

 ;)

Post Merge: September 03, 2009, 04:59:31 AM
here it is and changed added more frames ...

stance (mod)

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3446/idle1.gif)

 ~:>
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: as_Striker on September 03, 2009, 06:13:35 PM
i can´t see it
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Dzayan, The Warrior on September 04, 2009, 08:34:45 AM
i can´t see it
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3446/idle1.gif)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on September 04, 2009, 11:46:17 PM
ok i am working on the walking sprites
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Rage on September 05, 2009, 12:39:46 AM
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3446/idle1.gif)

looking better  :)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on September 05, 2009, 01:32:08 AM
thanks  #:-S

Post Merge: September 06, 2009, 01:29:36 AM
heres the:

crouch and stance:

(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7842/standtocrouch.gif)

 ~:>

hope you like its finished

and also the timing is fast because of the gif but in the game its more smoother or slower
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: iron spider on January 30, 2011, 03:55:47 AM
New Stance Final i realized  that the symbol on his chest was not the actual symbol and so i fixed it... :P

 :2

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6260/stancek.gif)
Title: Re: iron spider mugen wip alot done!
Post by: Rage on January 30, 2011, 06:52:09 AM
New Stance Final i realized  that the symbol on his chest was not the actual symbol and so i fixed it... :P

 :2

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6260/stancek.gif)

you got a long was to go........ you stance is sliding.

Nice work on that symbol tho.
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