Post by: Acey on April 22, 2009, 12:34:35 PM
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Douglas says:
So, you all are asking if the Portuguese section should still exist? Man, you are SO disrespectfull...so, because ONE portuguese speaker is gone...all the others must pay. Jesus, you are SO weird....
AC says:
no I'm not, we need mods, this is a good way to get people to commit to help
Douglas says:
but I've expect something like that coming from IMT - another childish move. But, for me, its okay. I will invite all portuguese speakers to another forum.
AC says:
you're so wierd, I thought you were done with IMT?
Douglas says:
ohhh...have I stepped on your toe?
AC says:
...
are.. you.. ok?
Douglas says:
yes, I AM DONE with IMT. But it doesn't fair to effect ALL portuguese speakers just to attack me
AC says:
you left, Gat is the only mod now, we need volunteers
Gate
Douglas says:
But, for sure, Gate won't moderate that section anymore. He DOESN'T agree with IMT recent acts, as almost any brazilian
AC says:
so you're saying no brasilian will want to particiate?
Douglas says:
remember that I'm a very know creator here in Brazil, right? Many people came and asked me what happened....and I told them
AC says:
so you're saying no brasilian will want to particiate?
if no one will participate then obviously the section would have to close then, right?
Douglas says:
IMT isn't lead by me, you know. Ask Excursion, he decide eveyrhing that is done
but, if that ISNT SO HARD for you, let people tells you
AC says:
1) not everything is about you, the section staying open or closing has nothing to do with you except we have one less mod
2) you just said the section shouldn't close but you aslo said no one will participate
Douglas says:
I know Acey
AC says:
so did you just send a message just to start an arugement or is there a point?
Douglas says:
huhuhuahuahuahuah. no I'm just voicing my opinion abouty IMT and its "fairiness"
AC says:
so you have no point, you just like fighting?
Douglas says:
do as you wish buddy. Or Excursion will be mad at you?
AC says:
do you mind if I post this discussion on the forum?
Douglas says:
ohhhh....now its important to you to post at the forum? On my incident, no...right
man, do as you wish. I'm telling that doing that will be even worst to IMT reputation.
its just that.
AC says:
well, your not afraid to let people see how you act, right?
Douglas says:
err....What is my name? O Ilusionista or Excursion? If I'm O Ilusionita, I have no fear to people know what I think, you should know. but if I'm called Excursion, I will cry like a baby just because you said the word BAD to me
Do you remember my name, right buddy?
remember: my problem is not with you, keep that in mind
And since I'm not a IMT member anymore, what they could do? Ban me? hehehehe. Oh wait, to not download my chars? Oh nooooo....hehehehe Or maybe they will beat me in the streets? bah, even If I live in USA, THEN DON'T HAVE GUTS ENOUGH.
There are good people there, like you, laspacho, scar, apoc and many others. but there are so false, coward and sheep too.
I think there has been mixed messages recently so what's better than just normal conversations.
Post by: Spidermew on April 22, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
How is asking if the section should stay open, disrespectful, if no one wants to run it? Its his over inflated ego saying that it all revolves arround him.
Post by: Z on April 22, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
lol Sheep? Scared? So In His View..He Was Stupid Enough To Join IMT Only To Complain, What A Fail Right There.
Honestly,There Is No Harassing In This, He's Just Being Stupid And Arrogant.
Just Forget About Him Yo, Let Him Cry. *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
Post by: Gaijin on April 22, 2009, 01:00:14 PM
Post by: kratos on April 22, 2009, 01:07:56 PM
Man he comes off as a big baby who just wants to fight, like a spoiled brat who didnt get his way.
How is asking if the section should stay open, disrespectful, if no one wants to run it? Its his over inflated ego saying that it all revolves arround him.
You must like calling people spoiled brats or something. I wouldn't be calling people big babies considering you're 25 and have pokemon in your sig and avatar.
Acey I would have locked this thread. There's only going to be more drama for a subject like this one. If people want to know why O Ilu left, they can just read your post.
I think what O illusionista was saying, was that there should still be a Portuguese section, even if he won't be around to mod it. Yea he doesn't think any Brazilian will participate, but the section should still be open. Because it's not fair to those who didn't have anything to do with the drama, but still want to come here and talk like anyone else. And what will happen with all the people who go to the Brazilian section now? You'll just say, sorry, this section is closed, go somewhere else now?
That's not fair, and not smart for a forum that wants to attract more users, even if they're not English speaking users. If this is a community, you have to let more than one culture in.
And for all those who want to say something bad about O illusionista over this. He's gone. He won't see your comments. That's pretty shallow to talk bad about someone who isn't here to defend themselves.
Post by: Gaijin on April 22, 2009, 01:12:05 PM
Post by: Excursion on April 22, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
BTW, all can see that he is the biggest attention wanting individual on any forum around. Sic-1, I hope for your teams sake he learned that he cannot come into a team and be the center of attention because that's how he is. He is done with IMT, but still posts at other forums saying that he is done with IMT. Why continue to bring attention to it when you don't want to be asked about it? Oh, I know why, because that's O Ilusionista.
Only a person with a HUGE ego would think he is a "very known creator" in Brazil. Guess what, I have been to Brazil. I have never seen O Ilusionista's nickname anywhere in Brazil.
Post by: Spidermew on April 22, 2009, 01:16:59 PM
You must like calling people spoiled brats or something. I wouldn't be calling people big babies considering you're 25 and have pokemon in your sig and avatar.
It dosnt matter what i go by, i dont whine and complain when things dont go my way. If you want to try to call me out, try doing it in a more intelegent way instead of doggin on me for the things that are obvious.
Post by: fredgerd on April 22, 2009, 01:23:46 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on April 22, 2009, 01:32:20 PM
@ Kratos
Anyway dogging someone for their avatar is really childish . We all have some character representing us I have Spawn . You have Kratos . He has a pokemon . So what ?
Now as for O' seeing this . Say what you guys want , because he will see your opinions . Maybe not with his own eyes . But they will get back to him , believe it .
On topic
O' & gate were mods of the portuguese section . O' quit IMT & Gate has quit as mod . So we have no mods right now . That's where the discussion came from about this . IMT is not making other members suffer because of O's actions . We just can't have a section without mods. We are working on that as I type .
Now as for the post in general . I think you all need to see things for what they are . O' painted this picture of how IMT was the bullies in the playground & he was the victim in the multiple threads he created . Plain & simple he was trying to make us look bad & rally troops behind him .
Like I said there are two sides to every tale . The picture he tried to paint is not necessarily the accurate one
Post by: Acey on April 22, 2009, 01:44:28 PM
Acey I would have locked this thread. There's only going to be more drama for a subject like this one. If people want to know why O Ilu left, they can just read your post....
..and for all those who want to say something bad about O illusionista over this. He's gone. He won't see your comments. That's pretty shallow to talk bad about someone who isn't here to defend themselves.
I opened this up for public discussion because I'm just sitting at my computer and here come O Ilu trying to start some kind of argument with me. At least, that's my perspective. And I see no reason to let such stuff happen behind closed doors because then there will be a skewed perspective of what's really going on. If he's going to send me messages like that then I'll have no beef sharing it (with his permission of course.)
And actually, like DT said, he'll see every word here.
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on April 22, 2009, 01:47:46 PM
Post by: Weapon x program on April 22, 2009, 01:47:58 PM
remember that I'm a very know creator here in Brazil, right? Many people came and asked me what happened....and I told them"
so many jokes to do with this,.... L-)
Post by: Excursion on April 22, 2009, 01:51:11 PM
Post by: Random Regular on April 22, 2009, 01:54:34 PM
that conversation was quite funny actually.XD||
xD
Post by: Yuri Jacobs on April 22, 2009, 02:01:30 PM
And I disagree about not letting it out now. He's quick to try to take you guys and turn your minds around against us here at IMT. He made a stink about leaving and made it public, so we will talk about it in public until this is a dead subject. I am tired of sitting back and not saying anything about O Ilusionista, his character and personality. It's about time people saw him for who he is... an egotistical, drama-filled, attention wanting person.
Well put there, Excursion.
Post by: kratos on April 22, 2009, 02:10:01 PM
I understand that you guys want to make this known to the public. But like I said, you could have just posted it and locked the topic. All you're doing is creating more drama. I don't know any other forum where the admins would actually promote this kind of thing. But then again, IMT always wants to be different...
Post by: tremainekr on April 22, 2009, 02:14:52 PM
Post by: Weapon x program on April 22, 2009, 02:15:42 PM
Well, people will do what they think is right. He's not a mind controller.scruffy? The guild? Sonicx? and that s the first that comes to my mind. Not so different. We understand you wanna help your friend but don t start something you can t control or you will judged in the same boat.
I understand that you guys want to make this known to the public. But like I said, you could have just posted it and locked the topic. All you're doing is creating more drama. I don't know any other forum where the admins would actually promote this kind of thing. But then again, IMT always wants to be different...
Post by: Z on April 22, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
Well, people will do what they think is right. He's not a mind controller.Uhhh...
I understand that you guys want to make this known to the public. But like I said, you could have just posted it and locked the topic. All you're doing is creating more drama. I don't know any other forum where the admins would actually promote this kind of thing. But then again, IMT always wants to be different...
O Is Basically Saying He Was The "Main Core" Of IMT, And That He Is Known, Which Is A Whooper Of A Lie.
The Way He Responded About The Portuguese Section Might Being Closed Down Due To No Mods, Was Not A Good One, Even Saying That Some
Of The People Here Were Scared. And Basically Harassing Acey Through IM Was Just Plain Stupid.
Honestly He Has Nothing IMT Really Needs.
Corrected Post ..Whoops >_>
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on April 22, 2009, 02:18:23 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on April 22, 2009, 02:21:25 PM
Well, people will do what they think is right. He's not a mind controller.
I understand that you guys want to make this known to the public. But like I said, you could have just posted it and locked the topic. All you're doing is creating more drama. I don't know any other forum where the admins would actually promote this kind of thing. But then again, IMT always wants to be different...
We don't force people to stay here . If they don't like it here , there are many other mugen forums they can register at . Most members stay here because they enjoy this place . Or they've checked out the other ones & realized this place is not bad at all .
Post by: kratos on April 22, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
And That He Is Known, Which Is A Whooper Of A Lie.
Honestly He Has Nothing IMT Really Needs.
He is known, that's no lie. I've heard about O Ilusionista at many forums over the years. And nothing this forum needs? Last I checked this was a community, or is trying to be. And every MUGEN community needs creators.
Post by: Nilakantha on April 22, 2009, 02:34:51 PM
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on April 22, 2009, 02:35:21 PM
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/Themes/default/images/warnwarn.gif) "I'll pistol whip his @ss."
I don't know how many times I am going to say this, stop going around the cuss filters!
I don't know how many times I am going to say this, stop going around the cuss filters!
Post by: Z on April 22, 2009, 02:36:15 PM
He is known, that's no lie. I've heard about O Ilusionista at many forums over the years. And nothing this forum needs? Last I checked this was a community, or is trying to be. And every MUGEN community needs creators.
With The Ego He Has, This Forum, Doesn't Need Him. My Point Of View, To Me, His Creations Aren't As Good As He Says
They Are. I Dare Him To Go MFG Or Other Forums And Act Like This. He Will Get The Same Response As He Got It Here Only Alot Harsher And Worse.
I Never Seen His Name In Any Forum.. Besides The Release Section... Besides That..Nowhere Else. So No, He Is Not Known.
Post by: Weapon x program on April 22, 2009, 02:40:03 PM
the love boat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_wFEB4Oxlo&feature=PlayList&p=B9F82C79012435FF&index=0&playnext=1# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_wFEB4Oxlo&feature=PlayList&p=B9F82C79012435FF&index=0&playnext=1#)
Post by: Acey on April 22, 2009, 02:41:05 PM
He is known, that's no lie. I've heard about O Ilusionista at many forums over the years. And nothing this forum needs? Last I checked this was a community, or is trying to be. And every MUGEN community needs creators.
1) I agree, O Ilu makes fun mugen stuff and he helps program for others too.
2) Yeah, all of us heard of O Ilusionista in mugen, after all, if nothing else he's in the credits of Fighter Factory
I completely agree on those two points. In addition, I think it's interesting how much everyone's focusing on the "big in Brasil" comment anyways. That was actually the least of my concern in talking with him.
@ Nutpatch, this drama's for you ;*)) (but let's not turn this into a "pick on Kratos" thread just because his viewpoint is different. Really, next person to bash on Kratos gets a mute and we'll slip a used sock in your sandwich when you're not looking.)
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on April 22, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
I am part Brasilian, but I don't speak fluent Portuguese. Though I still don't understand why a many people would leave because of him?
He failed at making us look bad , so now he is trying to get sympathy other ways . Trying to make it looks like we " picked on him " for his national origin . He's on a vendetta right now against us , & will twist & manipulate things any way he can .
It's sad .
The disagreement we had , was nothing to to with nationalities . Our whole team is made of different nationalities & this forum even more so . He just didn't agree with team decisions & decided to go on a crusade about it . There's always issues where we won't agree possibly . But it is a team for a reason . You go with the majority decision . He just couldn't deal with the fact that his word wasn't law .
Post by: Nilakantha on April 22, 2009, 02:55:38 PM
Just kidding. :-??
Post by: Kojunho on April 22, 2009, 03:01:35 PM
o.O#
Though I hope no one begins trolling other forums over this...
::fight::
Post by: Alexziq on April 22, 2009, 03:14:33 PM
Lol, I guess there is no honor among MUGENeers.
o.O#
Though I hope no one begins trolling other forums over this...
::fight::
O' wouldn't know the word honor.
Let me see..... hmmmn, he didnt PM you like he did everyone else to trash talk Excursion like he did me?
How many of those defending him were in on it I wonder?
He was trying to band people together to turn on Excursion, and I'll be happy to post my PM's because I wouldnt use MSN. He's trying to play the sob story now to save face when he was looking for a mutiny, and all of you know it. He was trying to take over this place bringing in his little cronies, and he wanted to drive Excursion out.
If anyone has no honor it's O'illusionista
Post by: Z on April 22, 2009, 03:19:10 PM
O' wouldn't know the word honor.^^(PM)^
Let me see..... hmmmn, he didnt PM you like he did everyone else to trash talk Excursion like he did me?
How many of those defending him were in on it I wonder?
He was trying to band people together to turn on Excursion, and I'll be happy to post my PM's because I wouldnt use MSN. He's trying to play the sob story now to save face when he was looking for a mutiny, and all of you know it. He was trying to take over this place bringing in his little cronies, and he wanted to drive Excursion out.
If anyone has no honor it's O'illusionista
Well Said.
Post by: Kojunho on April 22, 2009, 03:21:08 PM
In this matter, I only wish to stand by my statement:
"Though I hope no one begins trolling other forums over this..."
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on April 22, 2009, 03:22:46 PM
Post by: ANGELM on April 22, 2009, 03:24:27 PM
O' wouldn't know the word honor.
Let me see..... hmmmn, he didnt PM you like he did everyone else to trash talk Excursion like he did me?
How many of those defending him were in on it I wonder?
He was trying to band people together to turn on Excursion, and I'll be happy to post my PM's because I wouldnt use MSN. He's trying to play the sob story now to save face when he was looking for a mutiny, and all of you know it. He was trying to take over this place bringing in his little cronies, and he wanted to drive Excursion out.
If anyone has no honor it's O'illusionista
So you mean that the characters that i use are made by a guy who tried to do that?
Not cool *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
Post by: Random Regular on April 22, 2009, 03:35:31 PM
He was trying to band people together to turn on Excursion, and I'll be happy to post my PM's because I wouldnt use MSN. He's trying to play the sob story now to save face when he was looking for a mutiny, and all of you know it. He was trying to take over this place bringing in his little cronies, and he wanted to drive Excursion out.
Show me one of those PM's.
Post by: Alexziq on April 22, 2009, 03:49:58 PM
Hi man,
do you have MSN? I need to talk somethings with you....its something concern Excursion
I'm sure your going to want the whole conversation, but this is how it started. After I wouldnt meet him at MSN he went on to bash Excursion, and try to accuse him of editing, and deleting his topics. I know I wasnt the only one he wanted to talk to at MSN. I immediately said I agree with some of his points, but I do think that you come off rude. Once he knew I wasnt going to bash Excursion he backed off, and majically the "who is O'illusionista thread appeared quoting our conversation, which I think he was trying to save face.
well, let me show you some talk we (me and Ex) had, and you will see how he acts...
give me some minutes
This topic was MAGICALLY moved from the main thread. Why? Because I was "talking about a char errors publically" and "I can say that a char is bad", using the words Acey and Excursion told to me. Pretty absurd.
what really droves me crazy is "do what I'm talking, no what I do". I said that Symbiont Onslaught is as absurd as a Symbiont Galactus and he sent me this:
Got it? Symbiont onslaught is good, becaus is his creation. S. Galactus no.
2 days later he attacked me out of the blue.
I wonder why
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on April 22, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
I also agree with Theendgame. It seems he's misconstrued a lot of things Acey has said. And it maybe due to his knowledge of the english language. I mean, even he said that he's not good at it.
And I'm not defending him so don't flame me...I'm just here to attempt the ESKRO CHALLENGE.
Post by: KPT25 on April 22, 2009, 04:13:31 PM
This whole thing left me with a bitter taste and changed my view on O Ilusionista
Post by: fredgerd on April 22, 2009, 04:22:02 PM
Post by: ExShadow on April 22, 2009, 04:23:36 PM
Is there some reason people are still talking about this guy. He's gone. He probably wants people to make a fuss. Why give him what he wants?^^(PM)^
Post by: Z on April 22, 2009, 04:38:32 PM
Post by: ANGELM on April 22, 2009, 04:39:43 PM
I Suggest This Gets Dumped Now, And Have His Account Removed. Then Go Back Like The Way It Was,This Time Without Him.
Agreed.
Post by: JDubbs on April 22, 2009, 05:09:43 PM
that conversation was quite funny actually.
I agree lol ^^(PM)^
Post by: iDramaboy on April 22, 2009, 05:44:41 PM
Post by: Acey on April 22, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=22647.msg285154;topicseen#new (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=22647.msg285154;topicseen#new)
Post by: Excursion on April 22, 2009, 10:32:24 PM
He was trying to take over this place bringing in his little cronies, and he wanted to drive Excursion out.
That's kind of impossible since I foot the bill for this server space. What people don't see is the fact that I held my tongue for a long time publicly before I posted earlier in this thread, so now that we are speaking out about it, we are now looked upon as the bad guys for keeping it in the air. The whole point for talking about this is to make it known as to why he split from IMT and why he was dropped from the team. These guys that think O is a nice guy only met only one of his schizophrenic personalities. He has a lot of things wrong with him that either don't translate well into English or just craves the attention, the spot light.
I understand that you guys want to make this known to the public. But like I said, you could have just posted it and locked the topic. All you're doing is creating more drama. I don't know any other forum where the admins would actually promote this kind of thing. But then again, IMT always wants to be different...
I agree with you. IMT is different, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Had I been the one posting all those threads about "goodbye", "about me", etc. then all of this convo would be "why does a forum Admin have to act this way?" The point here is, he was part of the team, we had a private conversation (in a thread that was originally public and posted by...oh, that's right, O Ilusionista!) disagreement, he continued to draw attention to his cause with public posts and changing his avatar and sig to reflect his discontent (something team members don't do) and then the ultimate. He pulls his work out of EoH, but wants to stay onboard as a team member! /:O That's really shady. That makes us have to backtrack and remove his work, find replacements for them, change ideas and endings, then reupload all that and ask that you guys download it again. Way to go O. Way to look out for the team he wanted to still be a part of. *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
Last I checked this was a community, or is trying to be. And every MUGEN community needs creators.
This IS a community. The old mindset you may have had before MI/MFG changed their internal policies after we went stricter is down the toilet. We are almost on par with any other established forum out there in terms of members that come, stay and play with us. This community here has a [plethora of MUGEN Creators. The fact that O Ilusionista is not part of it does not mean that now it is lacking creators.
Post by: laspacho on April 23, 2009, 12:29:16 PM
- Laspacho (even we havingin our differences)
The only personal difference we ever had was in the "I'm out of EOH thread" :-??
Post by: Acey on April 23, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
Post by: laspacho on April 23, 2009, 12:48:46 PM
Have you noticed this thread is locked? :P
Not until just now. Sorry. :-[
Post by: Random Regular on April 23, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on April 23, 2009, 03:15:08 PM