Post by: battlesphere on March 03, 2009, 09:24:26 PM
There are many people who are saying Mugen isn't gonna last long and they have no idea why. Well if you're one of the people creating crossover games, that's part of the reason. Almost every mugen site I go to has continuations of crossovers that used to be on video game systems. But the one that has really been bothering me lately is Marvel vs Capcom.
I'm not saying that I hate Marvel vs Capcom, it's just that there are so many people doing that and I bet most Mugen players eventually get tired of that.
What I'm trying to say is, come up with a more original crossover! I mean if I can do it, so can you guys.
Take what the people at scruffydragon are working on for example, DC vs Marvel. Sure the two companies made a comic book of it, but the people at scruffydragon have turned that series into a Mugen video game. They even given it a unique gameplay. And I give them credit for it. So for those of you from scruffydragon, congradulations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjsr0BnfCXU#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjsr0BnfCXU#hq)
And there are also people who are making Mortal Kombat vs Street Fighter a Mugen reality after the videos they've seen by proxicide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6cKRgHFAY#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6cKRgHFAY#hq)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXPFgRsVUE#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXPFgRsVUE#hq)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-js6TKPBc#hq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-js6TKPBc#hq)
But seriously folks, I know Marvel vs Capcom, Capcom vs SNK, SVC CHAOS, and other old crossover games were cool and all, but could we give those places a rest? I mean there's probably a reason why they don't make sequals for those games anymore.
Do a different crossover for a change. What kind of crossover you ask? I don't know, anything. Do Capcom vs Nintendo or something, it doesn't matter. Just enough with the Marvel vs Capcom already. I think eveyone's done enough over the years.
I mean I'm not trying to offend everyone (Even though I sure as hell know I'm going to recieve hate letters after what I just said), but I felt I should say this. And I'm not trying to tell everyone to stop creating stuff for Marvel vs Capcom projects either, all I'm saying is that everyone should start coming up with more original crossovers.
I hope that I made a good point to most of you after what I said here today. Thank you for your time.
Post by: Scar on March 03, 2009, 09:53:40 PM
If you really think about it DC vs Marvel is still a MvC game but with DC characters so that really isnt something original...
Those MKvsSF videos arent even mugen related...
If they were to really make a MKvsSF mugen project I hope they make it capcom style and not that mk3 vs sf3 sprites they always use.
Post by: moonmaster1 on March 03, 2009, 10:15:57 PM
there are many many characters for mugen amongst king of fighters, eternal champions, and even not so playable versions of beavis and butthead. to this day there are original characters that deserve praise *try out seanality's solid snake and Rorschach!* but there a comes a saying: "if its not broke, don't fix it" sure there are many alternatives, but in a good portion of mugen *namely here and scruffy dragon* MvC is the standard for accessible, re-playable, and a fun fighting game.
I agree we see alot of MvC related content, but i doubt any of us here want to steer away from that anytime soon. :)
Post by: b.easy on March 03, 2009, 10:26:36 PM
What I'm trying to say is, come up with a more original crossover! I mean if I can do it, so can you guys.you can? :(|)
and by "can" I mean sprite, code, blahblahblah. Anyone can come up with a crazy idea, but it's the truly talented who take an idea and make something out of it.
New ideas, huh..
Oh, wait, I've got one coming right now. ok, here it is:
Dr. Seuss Vs. Image Comics
Post by: Excursion on March 03, 2009, 10:52:35 PM
New ideas, huh..
Oh, wait, I've got one coming right now. ok, here it is:
Dr. Seuss Vs. Image Comics
:D
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 03, 2009, 11:32:49 PM
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There are many people who are saying Mugen isn't gonna last long and they have no idea why.
Oh no...no this subject again...
Listen..I'm here for 10 YEARS...10 years. I had heard that THOUSAND times....but Mugen is still here. This is an excuse from people that can't program.
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Well if you're one of the people creating crossover games, that's part of the reason.
This is riciculous.
So, if we do content for the engine...we are contributing to its end? Very "smart".
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I bet most Mugen players eventually get tired of that.
There is an old rule: if you don't like a char, DELETE IT. Its quite simple.
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I mean if I can do it, so can you guys.
Oh, you can? So DO SOMETHING and stop talking...isn't better that way?
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And I give them credit for it. So for those of you from scruffydragon, congradulations.
What is the matter? On WHAT a DC versus is different from a Marvel versus? Nothing. And I got the idea...if you do prefer Scruffy, you can go there so. That is a gret project, for sure, but is a versul game, like all others.
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And there are also people who are making Mortal Kombat vs Street Fighter a Mugen reality after the videos they've seen by proxicide.
man, sorry If I sound rude...but you're getting a little weird...
So, a full game with chars were the graphics DOENS'T match...is good, while a CAPCOM vs something, were the graphics DO MATCH, is crap? Oh, give me a break.
I was part of a MK vs SF project on the past, were we used SF the Movie sprites, to match MK sprites. THAT is good, not mixing digitalized chars with pixel chars.
So, buddy, I think you're totally wrong in many aspects.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 03, 2009, 11:44:18 PM
Mortal Kombat vs Barney & the Teletubbies .
The great thing about my game is , Barney or the teletubbies have no moves . They just get slaughtered by the MK characters :DxDie
Anyway , I agree with what people are saying . The ultimate MK vs Capcom to me would be if the MK characters were sprited like Capcom style .
I personally do not see anyone hating on Marvel vs Capcom . You praise scruffy . DC vs Marvel is the same thing basically . In 2020 you will realize that .
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Post by: O Ilusionista on March 03, 2009, 11:53:21 PM
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Mortal Kombat vs Barney & the Teletubbies .
hahahaha. wonderful idea.
And put som symbiont/evil/orochi/shin/God/demon chars too :)
Post by: aquelegordo1 on March 03, 2009, 11:57:26 PM
hahahaha. wonderful idea.
And put som symbiont/evil/orochi/shin/God/demon chars too :)
hey Ilu,you forgot zombie/ssj5/with divin armor.
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 03, 2009, 11:59:03 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 04, 2009, 12:29:39 AM
X-men 2 - Nope, all X-men Characters.
Marvel Super Heroes 2 - nope, only marvel.
Street Fighter Alpha 4 - nope, only Capcom.
War of Attrition - again, no.
Megaman-XR - do I even need to?
So where are all these other MvC projects that are saturating MUGEN that you speak of?
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 04, 2009, 12:50:05 AM
Post by: xPreatorianx on March 04, 2009, 12:55:57 AM
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 04, 2009, 12:57:41 AM
Ok I have one question. If marvel vs capcom projects are ruining mugen, why do so many people download them?lol OWNED
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on March 04, 2009, 01:21:02 AM
Ok I have one question. If marvel vs capcom projects are ruining mugen, why do so many people download them?
damn muta, he nailed your paragraph in one sentance.
Post by: Zerok_116 on March 04, 2009, 01:22:02 AM
Oh no...no this subject again...
Listen..I'm here for 10 YEARS...10 years. I had heard that THOUSAND times....but Mugen is still here. This is an excuse from people that can't program.
This is riciculous.
So, if we do content for the engine...we are contributing to its end? Very "smart".
There is an old rule: if you don't like a char, DELETE IT. Its quite simple.
Oh, you can? So DO SOMETHING and stop talking...isn't better that way?
What is the matter? On WHAT a DC versus is different from a Marvel versus? Nothing. And I got the idea...if you do prefer Scruffy, you can go there so. That is a gret project, for sure, but is a versul game, like all others.
man, sorry If I sound rude...but you're getting a little weird...
So, a full game with chars were the graphics DOENS'T match...is good, while a CAPCOM vs something, were the graphics DO MATCH, is crap? Oh, give me a break.
I was part of a MK vs SF project on the past, were we used SF the Movie sprites, to match MK sprites. THAT is good, not mixing digitalized chars with pixel chars.
So, buddy, I think you're totally wrong in many aspects.
=D> ^^(PM)^ =D>
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 04, 2009, 01:34:05 AM
damn muta, he nailed your paragraph in one sentance.>_> you do know he was talking to the first guy and i never said it was destroying mugen i think you need to reread my post
Post by: battlesphere on March 04, 2009, 02:29:02 AM
Ok I have one question. If marvel vs capcom projects are ruining mugen, why do so many people download them?
I'm not saying MvC is ruining Mugen. If I did, I wouldn't of said I don't hate it. Infact, Mega Man was always my favorite character in the first and second game. I'm saying that the fact that others aren't creating original crossovers is.
If I know most people well enough, most people would want to mainly play with something they never heard of before. I bet that if someone brought in a crossover nobody would dare to try, it might bring more people back to mugen. I'm not saying this for any personal gain, I'm just saying this because Mugen is a cool program and I'd like it to last. ::salute::
Sure people are downloading MvC stuff from mugen sites like this, but because it is mainly an upgrade of an idea that existed before, it loses some people's interest. And sometime in the future (Maybe about two or five more years), that amount will drop. :o
I don't want to see that happen even though nobody wants to help me forfill my creations and prefer me to be a lone wolf. @^@
That's why I know SatAS won't exist, because it's a continuation of something that died long ago. Believe me, I hate to admit that. :'(
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i understand what hes saying he means why make a full game of something that allready exists and i have to be honest here i always have thought this and still do in a way BUT this mvc game isnt using just chars from mvc the creators made hole new chars completley but i must admit im slightly getting tired of of the mvc STYLED (that includes marvel vs dc,war of attrtion,mvc3,marvel3) stuff lol but thats just me and i HIGHLY doubt this would end mugen if anything itll be the elitists at other forums that want everything to be EXACTLEY the same as the game the sprites from god help you if you make an mvc geese and take out his regular reppuken lol anyway i and im sure alot others would love to see some extremely original games (PDC) but to say thats what end mugen is just not logical thinking as o ilu said its been here for ten years i doubt itll go away anyvtime soon^^(PM)^
Finally, someone who sees eye to eye. =D> Thank you. :w00t:
Post by: b.easy on March 04, 2009, 02:39:56 PM
i understand what hes saying he means why make a full game of something that allready exists and i have to be honest here i always have thought this and still do in a way BUT this mvc game isnt using just chars from mvc the creators made hole new chars completley but i must admit im slightly getting tired of of the mvc STYLED (that includes marvel vs dc,war of attrtion,mvc3,marvel3) stuff lol but thats just me and i HIGHLY doubt this would end mugen if anything itll be the elitists at other forums that want everything to be EXACTLEY the same as the game the sprites from god help you if you make an mvc geese and take out his regular reppuken lol anyway i and im sure alot others would love to see some extremely original games (PDC) but to say thats what end mugen is just not logical thinking as o ilu said its been here for ten years i doubt itll go away anyvtime soon
There are plenty of KOF and CVS projects in progress, too. :-??
Heck, there's a SHMUP game that looks nothing like MUGEN called Babel Sword. You want to see something original for the engine, check that out.
On a side note, I doubt mugen will ever "end". People are still out there programming Amiga games for fun, and that sounds a whole lot less interesting than our little gig.
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 04, 2009, 03:26:00 PM
There are plenty of KOF and CVS projects in progress, too. :-??im not really into those either lol but i have seen this babel sword i might try it out soon looks interesting but yeah i dont think itll be gone either but what i was meaning was IF it does end up failing itll be because purists but to be honest i dont think its even possible to destroy mugen as its not a system thats paid for so its not gonna go bankrupt lol and if someone out there likes it its never gonna die cause he'll/she'll get others intrigued in it its like skateboarding in the 80s it was real popular then 90s it started to fade but there were those few skaters that kept it alive and it is now what it is today
Heck, there's a SHMUP game that looks nothing like MUGEN called Babel Sword. You want to see something original for the engine, check that out.
On a side note, I doubt mugen will ever "end". People are still out there programming Amiga games for fun, and that sounds a whole lot less interesting than our little gig.
Post by: MirageAtoli on March 04, 2009, 03:52:17 PM
There are plenty of KOF and CVS projects in progress, too. :-??
Heck, there's a SHMUP game that looks nothing like MUGEN called Babel Sword. You want to see something original for the engine, check that out.
On a side note, I doubt mugen will ever "end". People are still out there programming Amiga games for fun, and that sounds a whole lot less interesting than our little gig.
That is programming for fun, and not so much as designing a game that is that is meant to be enjoyable.
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So, a full game with chars were the graphics DOENS'T match...is good, while a CAPCOM vs something, were the graphics DO MATCH, is crap? Oh, give me a break.
OBJECTION. Alot of capcom games have mismatching graphics as in the case of Morrigan.
I do agree that the lesser known, more varied games get less esposure.
Post by: b.easy on March 04, 2009, 03:56:51 PM
That is programming for fun, and not so much as designing a game that is that is meant to be enjoyable.o.O#
they're pretty much the same thing, bro. I'd hope you guys are out there making chars for fun and not slaving away "designing a playable game". by "for fun" I mean "for free".
The games I spoke of are extremely enjoyable and far more stable than our beloved MUGEN, though I still prefer the latter.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 04, 2009, 06:32:44 PM
@ O Ilusionista
Th MK characters will all be evil , shin, orochi , godlike , zombies , that have symbiotes on them , that transform into demons with super armor .
The teletubbies & Barney , well ......
They will just die . ;*))
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Post by: Reza on March 04, 2009, 06:36:13 PM
But seriously folks, I know Marvel vs Capcom, Capcom vs SNK, SVC CHAOS, and other old crossover games were cool and all, but could we give those places a rest? I mean there's probably a reason why they don't make sequals for those games anymore.
Um... all i have to say is your wrong. 8-} There is Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes, that's 2 new games plus there is a rumor going around about another one called some Anime company vs. Marvel. Its first going to be an Anime and if it goes well then they will turn it into a game.
If my calculations are correct that's 3 new Versus Series games. :DxDie
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on March 04, 2009, 07:49:21 PM
i admit, i got bored of mvc styled characters myself and i wont probably make another mvc styled character but mugen isn't all about mvc you know..i mean you can build a cvs game by using warsukai3's only characters, or a pocket fighters game using kongs pockets, cyber bots, mk..etc
then again what's new about building a cvs game, svc or whatever..
mk vs sf is a dream come true? i'm sure you know that these flash videos gameplay wont be translated o the limited mugen engine as it is right now, so puting together a screen pack with the unmatched sprites of sf and mk and giving ryu a hadouken fatality, zangief a babality and gouki a friendship move isn't really new cus simply this way it will be an MK game with ryu and ken in it = mugen lol
mugen wont die as long as there are new 2d fighting games being released, new sprites, ideas and gameplay mechanics..if 2d games die mugen will get boring yes but it wont die cus then ppl will be making different versions of the same characters over and over or even drawing new sprites and characters to keep things fresh.
some ppl are actually trying to improve on mugen by making new mugen clones with new futures and additions...this alone if gets done will surly give mugen a very long life span.
also new ppl are introduced to mugen like everyday as well as new mugen creators creating new stuff.
thing is creators chose to focus on the gameplay style they like the most...ppl like mvc so that's why you see a lot of them being made.
as for dc vs marvel game, well basically it still is mvc with dc instead, so not much new here as well.
here are many projects being worked on around the mugen community like O Illu wip pocket game and the sf2 nes game released a while back.
Post by: HyperGogeta on March 04, 2009, 07:56:20 PM
Post by: Reza on March 04, 2009, 08:27:48 PM
Post by: Acey on March 05, 2009, 12:34:18 AM
:O*D
I'm still lol @ b.easy's Dr. Seuss vs Image Comics.
Post by: battlesphere on March 05, 2009, 01:30:35 AM
Um... all i have to say is your wrong. 8-} There is Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe and Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes, that's 2 new games plus there is a rumor going around about another one called some Anime company vs. Marvel. Its first going to be an Anime and if it goes well then they will turn it into a game.
If my calculations are correct that's 3 new Versus Series games. :DxDie
You are correct. But those people included something else in the mix. Nobody tried MK vs DC or Tatsunoko vs Capcom because those crossovers were unexpected.
Tell me, when Mortal Kombat Armageddon was out, did you expect MK to make a crossover game with DC? I certaintly didn't, and neither did my older brother. :o
And Tatsunoko. I knew Capcom was gonna create another crossover eventually, but I never thought it would be with an anime I never heard of.
The point I'm trying to bring in is that we should start thinking about doing a different crossover. Putting SNK, Capcom, or a different company with someone they never faced before.
I'd show you guys a crossover I'm doing, but it's not ready yet. And it's gonna take some time seeing how I'm doing it alone. But one things for sure, I've already cancelled my other mugen ideas and I don't intend to cancel this one too. Help or no help, I intend to finish it. :thumbsup:
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easy guys..give the dude a break.^^(PM)^
i admit, i got bored of mvc styled characters myself and i wont probably make another mvc styled character but mugen isn't all about mvc you know..i mean you can build a cvs game by using warsukai3's only characters, or a pocket fighters game using kongs pockets, cyber bots, mk..etc
then again what's new about building a cvs game, svc or whatever..
mk vs sf is a dear come true? i'm sure you know that these flash videos gameplay wont be translated o the limited mugen engine as it is right now, so puting together a screen pack with the unmatched sprites of sf and mk and giving ryu a hadouken fatality, zangief a babality and gouki a friendship move isn't really new cus simply this way it will be an MK game with ryu and ken in it = mugen lol
mugen wont die as long as there are new 2d fighting games being released, new sprites, ideas and gameplay mechanics..if 2d games die mugen will get boring yes but it wont die cus then ppl will be making different versions of the same characters over and over or even drawing new sprites and characters to keep things fresh.
some ppl are actually trying to improve on mugen by making new mugen clones with new futures and additions...this alone if gets done will surly give mugen a very long life span.
also new ppl are introduced to mugen like everyday as well as new mugen creators creating new stuff.
thing is creators chose to focus on the gameplay style they like the most...ppl like mvc so that's why you see a lot of them being made.
as for dc vs marvel game, well basically it still is mvc with dc instead, so not much new here as well.
here are many projects being worked on around the mugen community like O Illu wip pocket game and the sf2 nes game released a while back.
Post by: volzzilla on March 05, 2009, 01:48:26 AM
Post by: BlkMoose on March 05, 2009, 02:44:41 AM
Post by: battlesphere on March 05, 2009, 03:19:14 AM
I'm thinking you should not make this thread seem like its wrong for people to like the MvC style.
Like I'm trying to say, I'm not saying it's wrong. If I thought it was, I wouldn't be here.
It is a person's right to have whatever preferences they want to have. And I'm willing to bet that on a forum where the official team here is devoted to making MvC, that preference is going to happen with quite a few people.^^(PM)^
But even though you didn't understand what I was saying, I did like what you put here. :thumbsup:
Post Merge: March 05, 2009, 03:27:52 AM
I feel that over saturating mugen with 99,000 kens and ryu hurts it a little though.....lol
Ken: (Holds up a sword at a Ryu's chin.) "You threaten my people with an army of Ryus."
Ryu: "Blastphamy! This is creation!"
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Ken: ...... "Creation? THIS IS MUGEN!!!" (Hurricane kicks Ryu into a hole.)
:D :D :D
Post by: volzzilla on March 05, 2009, 09:11:51 AM
Post by: BlkMoose on March 05, 2009, 09:49:03 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 05, 2009, 10:27:47 AM
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Sure people are downloading MvC stuff from mugen sites like this, but because it is mainly an upgrade of an idea that existed before, it loses some people's interest. And sometime in the future (Maybe about two or five more years), that amount will drop.
You're terrible wrong, again.
I think you have some old mugen friend that is tired and is making bad influence on you. People go and comes. There are tons of MVC style gameplay, like me. Almost EVERY char that I do have this influence. If people don't like, its not my problem....the char is mine. :)
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admit im slightly getting tired of of the mvc STYLED
Jesus Christ...this is SO SIMPLE! There are just 2 things:
1 - You AREN'T FORCED to download the chars, nobody put it on your HD, you've downloaded at your own will. If you don't like, simply DELETES IT.
2 - Go and learn to make a character and do yourself!
Come on guys...sorry if I sound rude, but its too childish to sit down and start to cry "OHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY, I DON"T LIKE MVC STYLE! BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 05, 2009, 11:02:54 AM
You're terrible wrong, again.
Jesus Christ...this is SO SIMPLE! There are just 2 things:
1 - You AREN'T FORCED to download the chars, nobody put it on your HD, you've downloaded at your own will. If you don't like, simply DELETES IT.
2 - Go and learn to make a character and do yourself!
Come on guys...sorry if I sound rude, but its too childish to sit down and start to cry "OHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY, I DON"T LIKE MVC STYLE! BLAH BLAH BLAH"
^^(PM)^ ^^(PM)^ ^^(PM)^
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Post by: battlesphere on March 05, 2009, 05:50:48 PM
maybe your really asking in so many way for some help with it? :-w cause you brought it up a few times....that's why I asked :-??
Actually, I'm not asking for any help with this project of mine. Like I said before, help or no help, I intend to finish it.
Besides, I plan to create my own Mugen related site one of these days. Hopefully it'll bring in some helping hands.
Not trying to be funny , but what type of project are you working on
As for the project, it is something nobody would dare to do. 8) And I've explained to many people that at first 8-} , it may sound silly. But when you think about it, it starts to sound very interesting. :)
The project is called Capcom vs. Reality: The Unexpected Crossover. It is where real people from fame, history, or someplace you never heard of before go up against fictional Capcom characters in order to get a chance to defeat a forgotten evil presence and be granted one wish.
I wasn't gonna start sharing it until I get five sprite sheets done just to proove to most people that I'm not gonna sit on my butt and watch them do the work for me.
So far, I have two sprite sheets ready that you'd be able to see in my DeviantART account. One of them is Mega Man. The other is me. And those two were not easy to make. I still got a long ways to go, but if that's the price I have to pay to get it done, then so be it. :thumbsup:
Unfortunately, my new computer is having trouble downloading the Adobe programs (I used Adobe Fireworks to create the sprite sheets). So I won't be able to bring in any new sprite sheets for a while until I can get my computer to cooperate. o.O#
Luckily, that'll give me time to find out who I should put in to fill in the empty spots for the reality side. My Papa is attempting to do remixes of certain songs I picked out. So just about the only person I have helping me out with the project is my Papa, but I don't care if he's the only help I got. :)
Just about, the gameplay would be similar to Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike with a few additions. As for who's in it, here's a link that will show you who's gonna be in it. ::salute::
-----> http://andrew-the-hedgehog.deviantart.com/art/CvR-Character-Progress-1-19-09-110080908 (http://andrew-the-hedgehog.deviantart.com/art/CvR-Character-Progress-1-19-09-110080908) <-----
Because my computer isn't downloading Adobe, the only thing I'm currently doing for CvR is something non-Mugen related called Capcom vs Reality: The Story of Andrew. It's a chapter book that shows how it all began and what Andrew has done to get through the challenges the Capcom world would throw at him. You could find chapters 1 & 2 in my journal entries on my DeviantART page.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 06, 2009, 10:29:21 AM
Do I want to play Punisher vs Airman ?
Or some random American war hero vs Ryu ? 8=|
I don't even need to answer that question .
But , good luck on your project . You have alot of work ahead of you .
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Post by: Sabaki on March 06, 2009, 10:56:46 AM
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 06, 2009, 11:00:52 AM
Post by: volzzilla on March 06, 2009, 11:03:45 AM
And on top of that DooM and Kratos have now piqued my interest to maybe broaden my scope as I've only collected comic chars so far, but now looking at their Kratos for sure and anything else that may jump out at me in the same capacity.
In short, Mugen can be customized how ever a creator wants, as well as how ever a player wants, and that is what makes it great.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 06, 2009, 11:06:48 AM
Guess I'm jumping into the topic late, but here's my imput. If everyone thinks that mugen is all about SF, Marvel, and crossovers, then think again. Internationally there are so many other characters from different cartoons and gaming series being converted like Gundam, Waku Waku 7, Nitro Battle Royale, Ushio & Tora, etc. Then you have original creations as well, many of them out there. If you stay local and only visit sites or check out creations that are of the common game/comic book genre, then yeah your thoughts will be that mugen is getting stale and is pretty much gonna die. However, if your open-minded and check out the not-so-common stuff, then you'll see that mugen keeps growing with unique and different stuff. Visit the news section here and you'll see what I mean.
^^(PM)^ ^^(PM)^ ^^(PM)^
I do have alot of different types of characters on my mugen for Xbox . I have close to 1000 characters on it. But when my buddies come over & we play . I usually play the MVC style , comic book or Capcom characters . For me , that never gets old .
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Post by: SPOOKY77 on March 06, 2009, 11:38:41 AM
sound cool to me lol as long as you have historic figures from all over not just us cause i can think of to real people lol Lu Bu from the later han dynasty of china and nobufusa baba from the sengoku era of japan who was unscathed after 500 battles lol
Dude you've been at that D warriors forum too much LOL jk bro :)
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 06, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
there's alot of characters I just don't like so I ........
OK I still download them ;*)) But they don't go in my roster . I'm a bad example , I download almost everything .
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Post by: volzzilla on March 06, 2009, 12:22:28 PM
My question though, if you do not like MvC that strongly and admit to not having a single char like that, why are you in a forum that is almost strictly devoted to such, even making games named in that manner. And do not take that as an attack, its just a simple question that I was wondering.
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 06, 2009, 12:31:56 PM
Um, I think O Illusionista was referring to someone else, I might be mistaken but that was my feeling. So I do not understand why your attacking him.well i onl atacked because he quoted something i said that was a simple opinion and im here because i DID like mvc styled and everything else but as i said thats just something im not a fan of ill admit i have two i have mvc ryu and captain america but the reason im here is because i enjoy it here just like at other forumssome people dont even like mugenbut they still hangout there same with me i enjoy it here you guys are all cool and ill admiy i went a little overboard with my post it was mainly anger that took overbecause it seems alot of people cant handle opinion well and the fact he made it sound like i was crying over mugen really struck a nerve because in my mind it seems he thinks im a little purist or something when im far from that theres alot ofchars i dislike like the handdawn ones that yagoshi makes and the little anme girl chars from melty blood and haruhi and all those and you know what i do i
My question though, if you do not like MvC that strongly and admit to not having a single char like that, why are you in a forum that is almost strictly devoted to such, even making games named in that manner. And do not take that as an attack, its just a simple question that I was wondering.
1.test it out to see if i might actually like it or
2.dont download
EDIT: there i deleted it cause to be honest it was just anger i now feel better that i vented my feelings but can some of you PLEASE learnwhats opinion and whats critisism its getting to be that im not even wanting to come here cause someones quoting something i said and assuming i was critisizing it just one of those thing that piss me off badly a pet peeve i guess you could say
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on March 06, 2009, 12:43:09 PM
well i onl atacked because he quoted something i said that was a simple opinion and im here because i DID like mvc styled and everything else but as i said thats just something im not a fan of ill admit i have two i have mvc ryu and captain america but the reason im here is because i enjoy it here just like at other forumssome people dont even like mugenbut they still hangout there same with me i enjoy it here you guys are all cool and ill admiy i went a little overboard with my post it was mainly anger that took overbecause it seems alot of people cant handle opinion well and the fact he made it sound like i was crying over mugen really struck a nerve because in my mind it seems he thinks im a little purist or something when im far from that theres alot ofchars i dislike like the handdawn ones that yagoshi makes and the little anme girl chars from melty blood and haruhi and all those and you know what i do i
1.test it out to see if i might actually like it or
2.dont download
EDIT: there i deleted it cause to be honest it was just anger i now feel better that i vented my feelings but can some of you PLEASE learnwhats opinion and whats critisism its getting to be that im not even wanting to come here cause someones quoting something i said and assuming i was critisizing it just one of those thing that piss me off badly a pet peeve i guess you could say
When I finally release Wolvenom . Even though he will be MVC style, he better make it to your roster :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
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Post by: greatmuta2 on March 06, 2009, 12:54:48 PM
When I finally release Wolvenom . Even though he will be MVC style, he better make it to your roster :DxDie :DxDie :DxDielol he will hes enjoyable to play with oh yeah i also have a wolverine cause when i was younger he was my hero lol and i always enjoyed playin him in marvel super heroes
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Post by: O Ilusionista on March 06, 2009, 12:59:11 PM
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well i onl atacked because he quoted something i said that was a simple opinion and im here because i DID like mvc styled and everything else but as i said thats just something im not a fan of ill admit i have two i have mvc ryu and captain america but the reason im here is because i enjoy it here just like at other forumssome people dont even like mugenbut they still hangout there same with me i enjoy it here you guys are all cool and ill admiy i went a little overboard with my post it was mainly anger that took overbecause it seems alot of people cant handle opinion well and the fact he made it sound like i was crying over mugen really struck a nerve because in my mind it seems he thinks im a little purist or something when im far from that theres alot ofchars i dislike like the handdawn ones that yagoshi makes and the little anme girl chars from melty blood and haruhi and all those and you know what i do i
So you've attacked me? Damn, I lost the fun part :) It wasn't an attack, it was my opinion. People should know to handle opinions. If I would attack someon...I won't be that soft :)
Listen pal...I wasn't attacking you. And the "sit down and cry" wasn't for you, so CHILL OUT.
I did respect you a lot man...but just to know you could attack me just because an opnion (and misunderstood) makes me wonder...
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As for the project, it is something nobody would dare to do. Cool And I've explained to many people that at first silly , it may sound silly. But when you think about it, it starts to sound very interesting. Smiley
The project is called Capcom vs. Reality: The Unexpected Crossover. It is where real people from fame, history, or someplace you never heard of before go up against fictional Capcom characters in order to get a chance to defeat a forgotten evil presence and be granted one wish.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....this explains EVERYTHING.
So, you've made all that rumble...to get attention to your project.
What a low blow...
Post by: greatmuta2 on March 06, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
So you've attacked me? Damn, I lost the fun part :) It wasn't an attack, it was my opinion. People should know to handle opinions. If I would attack someon...I won't be that soft :)yeah i admit i went a little overboard sorry man its just getting to its not just you but youtube and other forums and real lifeits just been pissing me off and i guess i just snapped at you and most of what i said was out of anger and i really didnt mean half of what i said but the part when you said that stuff about crying i thought was directed toward me cause it was right after the thing yousaid to me so sorry again for my misunderstanding
Listen pal...I wasn't attacking you. And the "sit down and cry" wasn't for you, so CHILL OUT.
I did respect you a lot man...but just to know you could attack me just because an opnion (and misunderstood) makes me wonder...
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....this explains EVERYTHING.
So, you've made all that rumble...to get attention to your project.
What a low blow...
Post by: battlesphere on March 06, 2009, 04:42:10 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....this explains EVERYTHING.
So, you've made all that rumble...to get attention to your project.
What a low blow...
Or maybe you're just assuming too much. 8-}
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 06, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
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yeah i admit i went a little overboard sorry man its just getting to its not just you but youtube and other forums and real lifeits just been pissing me off and i guess i just snapped at you and most of what i said was out of anger and i really didnt mean half of what i said but the part when you said that stuff about crying i thought was directed toward me cause it was right after the thing yousaid to me so sorry again for my misunderstanding
Its okay
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Or maybe you're just assuming too much.
I've saw many low blows, but that was one of the lowest on my entire life.
I won't wast my time with you anymore.
Post by: Dakangel on March 06, 2009, 10:30:39 PM
and yes Marvel vs Capcom 3 is under development right now and Capcom vs Snk 3 were made if fans want another one.
Capcom's ears listened to the fans and Marvel vs Capcom 2 (the best crossover game) will have a sucesson soon
Post by: .:K.I.N.G:. on March 07, 2009, 09:40:07 AM
The marvel vs capcom franchise is one of the most important generes on fighting games "the crossover" and if you ask me mugen is so popular because of that ,of course there are others like capcom vs snk or mortal kombat vs dc or tatsunoko vs capcom but in fact the last one is a new generation reference to the versatility,facility and espectacularity for the mvc games.mugen is popular cus of mvc? how is that? i doubt that very much.
and yes Marvel vs Capcom 3 is under development right now and Capcom vs Snk 3 were made if fans want another one.
Capcom's ears listened to the fans and Marvel vs Capcom 2 (the best crossover game) will have a sucesson soon
mk vs dc as well as tatsunoko vs capcom are high end 3d fighting games with no relation to mugen what so ever to even get in a mugen crossover popularity contest.
mvc3 is not under development yet instead they are considering a triple vs game like capcom vs dc vs marvel or batman vs spider man vs hulk + cvs3 wont be happening anytime soon cus of some legal issues even if fans demanded it, if either of these games actually gets made they will be probably in 3d.
as for mvc being the best cross over!..will i have to disagree on this one and pick cv2 and here is why i'm disagreeing.
you see mvc series of games are mostly button mashers and more close to party games than focused fighting games, in mvc simply you go around beaming every thing with big rays, launching missiles and mostly throwing big and small stuff at ur enemy around the match.
if you play other fighting games or if you are a hardcore fighting gamer/player you'll know that mvc doesn't have the depth of a fighting game.
mugen isn't popular cus of one individual game i mean what's the point if it was? mugen is popular cus you get to chose who vs who as well as how they fight and where they fight
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Post by: greatmuta2 on March 07, 2009, 09:58:44 AM
mugen is popular cus of mvc? how is that? i doubt that very much.THE BEST POST IN THIS WHOLE THREAD! ^:)^ ^^(PM)^
mk vs dc as well as tatsunoko vs capcom are high end 3d fighting games with no relation to mugen what so ever to even get in a mugen crossover popularity contest.
mvc3 is not under development yet instead they are considering a triple vs game like capcom vs dc vsmarvel or batman vs spider man vs hulk + cvs3 wont be happening anytime soon cus of some legal issues even if fans demanded it, if either of these games actually gets made they will be probably in 3d.
as for mvc being the best cross over!..will i have to disagree on this one and pick cv2 and here is why i'm disagreeing.
you see mvc series of games are mostly button mashers and more close to party games than focused fighting games, in mvc simply you go around beaming every thing with big rays, launching missiles and mostly throwing big and small stuff at ur enemy around the match.
if you play other fighting games or if you are a hardcore fighting gamer player you'll know that mvc doesn't have the depth of a fighting game.
mugen isn't popular cus of one individual game i mean what's the point if it was? mugen is popular cus you get to chose who vs who as well as how they fight and where they fight
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1143/cf2adon.gif) VS(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9114/cf2joe.gif)
Post by: battlesphere on March 07, 2009, 12:27:30 PM
mugen is popular cus of mvc? how is that? i doubt that very much.
I have to agree with you on that. I mean when I play with Mugen, I put most of whatever characters & stages I download all together in a Mugen game called Everything vs Everything. But I put them in from the design of the company they came from unless they never had a sprite game before or unless they don't have a unique design.
For the everything vs everything game, I mainly put in characters that are Capcom sized or KOF sized. ;D
I've also made different types of mugen games as well. I made one with just computer graphic characters, I made one with Capcom designed characters, I made one with characters that have the cvs groove selection, I made one with SNK designed characters, and I even made one that has every Kung Fu Man that's downloadable. :)
But saying that Mugen is popular for MvC is not true. Mainly the reason why Mugen is popular is because you could put whatever characters you want in it and have them go head to head. You could even put all the MvC characters against the CvS characters and see which game is better through watch mode. Lol! But with Ultimate Rugal & Shin Akuma at CvS's side, I think I know who would win. Then again, MvC has Abyss, Onslaught, & Apocalypse on their side. :o
Post Merge: March 07, 2009, 12:29:39 PM
mugen is popular cus you get to chose who vs who as well as how they fight and where they fight
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Oops. I didn't see that in there. Sorry. <_<|...|
Post Merge: March 07, 2009, 12:30:56 PM
THE BEST POST IN THIS WHOLE THREAD! ^:)^ ^^(PM)^
Agreed.