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IMT Discussions => M.U.G.E.N Discussion => Topic started by: Hybasuku on October 25, 2008, 05:02:43 PM
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Don't talk to me about Cap, it's aborted, but these Wips won't be I PROMISE YOU! There hasn't been any War Machines really (exept the one i saw for Advengers West Coast) anyway I decided to do one. He will not be just like Iron Man exept a little different, he will shoot many rockets out of his shoulder, he will also shoot VERY explosive torpedos out of his arm. I'll try to make it as different as possible from Iron-Man, different intros, attacks, hypers & specials, and he will have helpers too! My second WIP, THE ABOMINATION, he too will be different than the Hulk ( I might make his stance the same thought ;*)) ) but i haven't seen any Abominations so i decided to make a WIP of him! Last, EVIL SUPERMAN, HE will literally kill you, he won't hold back, and i may have him do a fatality! Now here's a preview of them!
(http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7582/wipswj7.png) (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wipswj7.png)
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OK , not to bust your bubble here , but .....
Capcom made a war machine . He's not exactly War amchine , but he does exist & others made him for mugen .
Superman as far as I know has never been evil . He would never rip out hearts or anything . He's the boyscout superhero . It's just going to be strange to see him that evil & violent . If you are using scruffy's superman . You better get permission . The guy who made him is pretty cool . He gave me permission long time ago to use his Superman sprites for my Doomsday . So it shouldn't be a problem .
Did someone help you with these sprites ? If not your edits are improving from before
Now onto something else ....
Let's talk about Cap . You promised us he was going to be finished . :-?? But yet now you have abondoned him . :-??
Anyway good luck %%- to you , If you are going to try to WIP these . It's hard for guys that have been doing this for years to do 3 characters at the same time . You haven't even created one yet . I would suggest focusing your time on one character only for your first .
Make a post in the sprites section for the others for now :thumbsup:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
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OK , not to bust your bubble here , but .....
Capcom made a war machine . He's not exactly War amchine , but he does exist & others made him for mugen .
Superman as far as I know has never been evil . He would never rip out hearts or anything . He's the boyscout superhero . It's just going to be strange to see him that evil & violent . If you are using scruffy's superman . You better get permission . The guy who made him is pretty cool . He gave me permission long time ago to use his Superman sprites for my Doomsday . So it shouldn't be a problem .
Did someone help you with these sprites ? If not your edits are improving from before
Now onto something else ....
Let's talk about Cap . You promised us he was going to be finished . :-?? But yet now you have abondoned him . :-??
Anyway good luck %%- to you , If you are going to try to WIP these . It's hard for guys that have been doing this for years to do 3 characters at the same time . You haven't even created one yet . I would suggest focusing your time on one character only for your first .
Make a post in the sprites section for the others for now :thumbsup:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Yo, I'm sorry about Cap, just I wanted to make WIPS with my own design, also I know about the war machine for capcom, but to tell you the truth it sucked, it was not original, mine will be i promise! Also thanks about me improving i appreciate the comment, AND I will focus on one of them, i just plan on making all three, and I will change the look (sorta) of Evil Superman. And finally, JUST because it's Evil Superman, doesn't mean it's Kal-el, just think about it! :)
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You promised cap was going to be finished, but he isnt going to be. Now you promise three characters are going to be finished? I dunno man. You better hold off on the word "promise".
Anyway, good luck, I guess.
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Good luck man! I'm looking forward to Abomination. Hulk needs a villain to fight in MUGEN.
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You promised cap was going to be finished, but he isnt going to be. Now you promise three characters are going to be finished? I dunno man. You better hold off on the word "promise".
Anyway, good luck, I guess.
They Will, will, will, be finished!Good luck man! I'm looking forward to Abomination. Hulk needs a villain to fight in MUGEN.
Thanks, I'm gonna make the Abomination really cool!
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just a few points here by the way
1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
2) There is an abomination wip over at scruffy, just incase you want to join together with the guy whose making it.
3) Bizarro has already been released (isn't he the same as evil superman?).
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1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
Capcom's Warmachine is a palette swap of Ironman. Which for Capcom wasn't that great of an idea. Capcom's palette swap of Venom they called Carnage was even worse.
Isn't Warmachine's suit anatomically the same as Ironman's?
Evil Superman remind me of the Justice Lord Superman; an intro with the death of Flash would be cool.
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just a few points here by the way
1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
It, kinda is but i added a scanner on his head, and a multiple rocket launcher, but he will be different, and not a pallete swap every single thing, i will do alot of frankenspriting to make th attacks look different.1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
Capcom's Warmachine is a palette swap of Ironman. Which for Capcom wasn't that great of an idea. Capcom's palette swap of Venom they called Carnage was even worse.
Isn't Warmachine's suit anatomically the same as Ironman's?
Evil Superman remind me of the Justice Lord Superman; an intro with the death of Flash would be cool.
Like how does this flash that you are talking about die, and can i have a picture of Justice Lord Siperman?
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1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
Capcom's Warmachine is a palette swap of Ironman. Which for Capcom wasn't that great of an idea. Capcom's palette swap of Venom they called Carnage was even worse.
there was a 'carnage' palette swap? what game...sounds awful
anyway, good luck with the wip's man!
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Like how does this flash that you are talking about die, and can i have a picture of Justice Lord Siperman?
It was part of the plot of Justice League Unlimited, in which President Luthor kills the Flash and Superman retaliates and kills him in the Oval Office in what is a possible future timeline.
He wasn't necessarily evil; He just crossed the line and set the world into a dystopian society.
Search for 'Justice Lords' on youtube.
there was a 'carnage' palette swap? what game...sounds awful
I believe it was a secret character in Marvel Super Heroes.
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1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
Capcom's Warmachine is a palette swap of Ironman. Which for Capcom wasn't that great of an idea. Capcom's palette swap of Venom they called Carnage was even worse.
Isn't Warmachine's suit anatomically the same as Ironman's?
Evil Superman remind me of the Justice Lord Superman; an intro with the death of Flash would be cool.
they never called him carnage. they called him venom. he even had a whole made up story where it was still eddie brock but with a different symbiote.
now the mephisto pallete swap of blackheart from MVSvSF, on the other hand....
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Like how does this flash that you are talking about die, and can i have a picture of Justice Lord Siperman?
It was part of the plot of Justice League Unlimited, in which President Luthor kills the Flash and Superman retaliates and kills him in the Oval Office in what is a possible future timeline.
He wasn't necessarily evil; He just crossed the line and set the world into a dystopian society.
Search for 'Justice Lords' on youtube.
there was a 'carnage' palette swap? what game...sounds awful
I believe it was a secret character in Marvel Super Heroes.
Don't know about Marvel Super Heroes, I never really played it much, but in Marvel vs Capcom, Venom had an alternate costume, Carnage, which was just Venom with an orange palette, and THAT was horrible since Venom and Carnage are obviously not the same size.
Now, as of your WIPs, you dropped Wolvenom, Cap, and your original character which was named after you, Hybasuku. I don't think you will finish these three characters, since you have a reputation for dropping characters, but prove me wrong, and good luck to you anyway.
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ok, first this "bad" superman is being work on by kal elvis, so i don t see the point to lose your time.
Second, this abomination doesn t look like abomination.
Three war machine is just an helper on my us agent character, read well, and the design is really different: (http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6940/warmachinefc9.png)
and before i forget mcready is working on him and doing a great job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVK88JTDMY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVK88JTDMY)
SO, because i know you will never finish them, you should start with easy wips. I didn t want to sound harsh, but time will prove i am right AS ITALIAN STALLION;
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and I will change the look (sorta) of Evil Superman. And finally, JUST because it's Evil Superman, doesn't mean it's Kal-el, just think about it! :)
Okay, As a DC Comics Fan, Gotta say that
If its not Kal-El. Then who? I only now of probably at least 3 Evil Supermen.
BiZaRrO
Superman Prime
Kon-El (Superboy Prime: Later becomes a self proclaimed evil Superman.)
PLUS: Superman From RED SON but he doesnt count cuz he was just raised differently.
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As for your W.I.P man, first off much %%- %%- , try working on War Machine first and foremost, all his mechanics and ideas you have on hand will make him your best bet for making for complete character. The abombmination and Evil Superman as cool as they seem, will more then likely require precsion and patience to custom sprite a non existant character. Keep focused and hang in there man.
-"aPoC."
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Now, as of your WIPs, you dropped Wolvenom, Cap, and your original character which was named after you, Hybasuku. I don't think you will finish these three characters, since you have a reputation for dropping characters, but prove me wrong, and good luck to you anyway.
Hey bro , watch your mouth , he may want want his idea for Wolvenom back now . :DxDie I already have 70% of the sprites done .
I really think he should take up Captain " Bucky " America . 3 good reasons to do so ....
He really is not that bad to edit
People were looking forward to it
Last of all , Jill has alot of guns to use . ;*))
I really think if you are abondoning Cap , you should probably listen to everyone & focus on War machine . He will be a easier forst character to make than the others . Then move onto something more difficult .
Now as for your sprites . Like example , the 3 that you posted . Just curious how long it took you to do each one ? I know when I first started One Hobgoblin sprite took me hours at times . I've become a little faster since then . Now one sprite only takes me an hour & 59 minutes ;D
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
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Like how does this flash that you are talking about die, and can i have a picture of Justice Lord Siperman?
It was part of the plot of Justice League Unlimited, in which President Luthor kills the Flash and Superman retaliates and kills him in the Oval Office in what is a possible future timeline.
He wasn't necessarily evil; He just crossed the line and set the world into a dystopian society.
Search for 'Justice Lords' on youtube.
there was a 'carnage' palette swap? what game...sounds awful
I believe it was a secret character in Marvel Super Heroes.
Don't know about Marvel Super Heroes, I never really played it much, but in Marvel vs Capcom, Venom had an alternate costume, Carnage, which was just Venom with an orange palette, and THAT was horrible since Venom and Carnage are obviously not the same size.
Now, as of your WIPs, you dropped Wolvenom, Cap, and your original character which was named after you, Hybasuku. I don't think you will finish these three characters, since you have a reputation for dropping characters, but prove me wrong, and good luck to you anyway.
didnt you read wat that one guy said about this
they never called it carnage
people did
and wats wrong with making an evil superman that doesnt exist in comics
he can just be like a half original char
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that character wasnt carnage
in the game it was named HYPER venom thats why it had the after-images
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Alright well on the sfgalleries website, orange Venom says Carnage and purple haired Morrigan says Lilith.
http://www.sfgalleries.net/art/mvc/supers/ (http://www.sfgalleries.net/art/mvc/supers/)
Sorry I have a life and im not on the computer every second of my life and know exactly everything about video games.
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well, i read something about the orange venom, venom and carnage got mix together and it was called " Hybrid " no more words.... but hybrid is more powerful in attacks plus with more speed.... but he has weak endurance... thats no ultimate venom... :O*D
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that character wasnt carnage
in the game it was named HYPER venom thats why it had the after-images
Hyper Venom is made by XBC and its an alternet def file you can use instead of the normal venom.
IN MVC Carnage was a sceret character who was an orange venom with differnt stats, just like US Agent and War Machine.
Evil Superman? What is it Zod or a child of his? Or is it like what if Zod had possesed Clark Kent in Smallville?
If yes, shouldnt you use Zod's symbol?
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and I will change the look (sorta) of Evil Superman. And finally, JUST because it's Evil Superman, doesn't mean it's Kal-el, just think about it! :)
Okay, As a DC Comics Fan, Gotta say that
If its not Kal-El. Then who? I only now of probably at least 3 Evil Supermen.
BiZaRrO
Superman Prime
Kon-El (Superboy Prime: Later becomes a self proclaimed evil Superman.)
PLUS: Superman From RED SON but he doesnt count cuz he was just raised differently.
Kon El was the good Superboy from the Death of superman era, and of course Teen Titans, not Superman Prime.
Superman Prime is Clark Kent of Earth Prime, and also Kal El. Prime is definately Evil, and has ripped off both of Risks arms, blew off Panthas head, blasted a hole in Wildebeast, beat Kal-L the origional E2 Superman to death, tried to Rip Krypto's Mouth in half, and killed the very last Green Lantern, in the Legion of 3 Worlds future. On Top of that he destroyed the planets Thanagar, and Earth 15. Probably one of the biggest mass murderers in the DCU
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and I will change the look (sorta) of Evil Superman. And finally, JUST because it's Evil Superman, doesn't mean it's Kal-el, just think about it! :)
Okay, As a DC Comics Fan, Gotta say that
If its not Kal-El. Then who? I only now of probably at least 3 Evil Supermen.
BiZaRrO
Superman Prime
Kon-El (Superboy Prime: Later becomes a self proclaimed evil Superman.)
PLUS: Superman From RED SON but he doesnt count cuz he was just raised differently.
Kon El was the good Superboy from the Death of superman era, and of course Teen Titans, not Superman Prime.
Superman Prime is Clark Kent of Earth Prime, and also Kal El. Prime is definately Evil, and has ripped off both of Risks arms, blew off Panthas head, blasted a hole in Wildebeast, beat Kal-L the origional E2 Superman to death, tried to Rip Krypto's Mouth in half, and killed the very last Green Lantern, in the Legion of 3 Worlds future. On Top of that he destroyed the planets Thanagar, and Earth 15. Probably one of the biggest mass murderers in the DCU
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/SpiderMew/Emoting/VenomewtwoHead.gif)I bet Joker isnt happy that someone stole, then broke his body count record ;*))
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and I will change the look (sorta) of Evil Superman. And finally, JUST because it's Evil Superman, doesn't mean it's Kal-el, just think about it! :)
Okay, As a DC Comics Fan, Gotta say that
If its not Kal-El. Then who? I only now of probably at least 3 Evil Supermen.
BiZaRrO
Superman Prime
Kon-El (Superboy Prime: Later becomes a self proclaimed evil Superman.)
PLUS: Superman From RED SON but he doesnt count cuz he was just raised differently.
Kon El was the good Superboy from the Death of superman era, and of course Teen Titans, not Superman Prime.
Superman Prime is Clark Kent of Earth Prime, and also Kal El. Prime is definately Evil, and has ripped off both of Risks arms, blew off Panthas head, blasted a hole in Wildebeast, beat Kal-L the origional E2 Superman to death, tried to Rip Krypto's Mouth in half, and killed the very last Green Lantern, in the Legion of 3 Worlds future. On Top of that he destroyed the planets Thanagar, and Earth 15. Probably one of the biggest mass murderers in the DCU
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/SpiderMew/Emoting/VenomewtwoHead.gif)I bet Joker isnt happy that someone stole, then broke his body count record ;*))
Id bet Joker despises the little brat
Oh yeah I forgot that Superman Prime also killed Kon-El the Superboy that were all familiar with in Mugen
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Back on topic though Habasuku I think you need to stick with one WIP, and show us a Youtube of some basics b4 you post this as a wip. Its okay for the sprites section, but not a WIP.
I feel like a d*ck for saying this, but it seems like your just posting some basic edits, and palette swaps to get attention, when it seems like you dont have much intention of actually completing these sprites, and seem to give up on every project you start. Kinda looks like youre using basic paint to edit too, which is gonna prove to be a problem with quality.
If you post youre sprite edits in the graphic arts section we can help you step by step though the process of getting to the point where youre ready to Wip some characters, but I dont think any of us are taking this seriously as a Wip we expect to see in the near future.
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As for your W.I.P man, first off much %%- %%- , try working on War Machine first and foremost, all his mechanics and ideas you have on hand will make him your best bet for making for complete character. The abombmination and Evil Superman as cool as they seem, will more then likely require precsion and patience to custom sprite a non existant character. Keep focused and hang in there man.
-"aPoC."
Now, as of your WIPs, you dropped Wolvenom, Cap, and your original character which was named after you, Hybasuku. I don't think you will finish these three characters, since you have a reputation for dropping characters, but prove me wrong, and good luck to you anyway.
I really think if you are abondoning Cap , you should probably listen to everyone & focus on War machine . He will be a easier forst character to make than the others . Then move onto something more difficult .
Now as for your sprites . Like example , the 3 that you posted . Just curious how long it took you to do each one ? I know when I first started One Hobgoblin sprite took me hours at times . I've become a little faster since then . Now one sprite only takes me an hour & 59 minutes ;D
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Well, i do use paint, it's easy for me, and i found a cool trick to make coloring, wayyyy easier, but i don't know how long, uhhh, around, 30 (I could be completely wrong) minutes, mabe with the easy coloring, mabe less minutes than that with the coloring :thumbsup:
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Kon El was the good Superboy from the Death of superman era, and of course Teen Titans, not Superman Prime.
Superman Prime is Clark Kent of Earth Prime, and also Kal El. Prime is definately Evil, and has ripped off both of Risks arms, blew off Panthas head, blasted a hole in Wildebeast, beat Kal-L the origional E2 Superman to death, tried to Rip Krypto's Mouth in half, and killed the very last Green Lantern, in the Legion of 3 Worlds future. On Top of that he destroyed the planets Thanagar, and Earth 15. Probably one of the biggest mass murderers in the DCU
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I might change Evil Superman to Superman Prime, he sounds like the best Evil Superman Ever! Thanks for the info! >:D
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- If you're going to make Superman Prime, you might want to make him look the part.
- I hope that your going to make this War Machine look like the actual War Machine and not a palette swap of Iron Man.
- The Abomination never wore clothing so please remove the pants.
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Yeah for abomination you may want to use someone else's legs like thanos so u dont have the pants. I doubted you would want to remove the pants manually.
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Yeah for abomination you may want to use someone else's legs like thanos so u dont have the pants. I doubted you would want to remove the pants manually.
- The Abomination never wore clothing so please remove the pants.
Yeah Well look at this picture from the 70s http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5/250pxhulk159my2.png (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5/250pxhulk159my2.png) >:(
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Yeah for abomination you may want to use someone else's legs like thanos so u dont have the pants. I doubted you would want to remove the pants manually.
- The Abomination never wore clothing so please remove the pants.
Yeah Well look at this picture from the 70s http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5/250pxhulk159my2.png (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5/250pxhulk159my2.png) >:(
:-[ Okay. The Abomination wore trunks. I guess we can disprove the rumor about the Abomination being naked.
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- The Abomination never wore clothing so please remove the pants.
I just realized that sounds dirty, yo, i'm not that way, i don't wanna remove his pants, I think you sir are a pervert!
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Abomination wore trunks or nothing at all.....
he didn't wear pants......
I think you wanna keep hem because your lazy a sprite editing :P not trying to be offensive
because I am lazy too
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1) Your warmachine just seems a pallette of the capcom one....
Capcom's Warmachine is a palette swap of Ironman. Which for Capcom wasn't that great of an idea. Capcom's palette swap of Venom they called Carnage was even worse.
there was a 'carnage' palette swap? what game...sounds awful
anyway, good luck with the wip's man!
there wasnt, someone made a pallette for mugen and called it carnage, there never was a carnage in any capcom vs game.
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so sandman is dirty too? cuz he do not wear pants?
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Can anyone give me any ideas for a War Machine special or hyper, that's original, and something War Machine would do, it would be a great help!
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In the last issue of Secret Invasion's Iron Man, he transforms a satelite in a huge War Machine. Maybe is a good idea for a hyper :thumbsup:
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Can anyone give me any ideas for a War Machine special or hyper, that's original, and something War Machine would do, it would be a great help!
- One of his shoulder weapons should be a machine gun; the other can shoot lasers.
- Limited flight is a must. After all, flight reqires energy to maintain.
- War Machine should also be able to shoot Smart Bombs as he did in the Marvel Versus series.
- Like Iron Man, War Machine could shoot Unibeams and Repulsor Rays. Maybe you could implement that into your character.
- One of his gauntlets can shoot a mini lasrer, while the other one can shoot a missle.
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Maybe he can shoot a big ol missile in the air, where it goes off screen. Then he kinda like crouches and covers up, and all these missiles come down and make all these explosions
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Alright this is more of a discussion about orange Venom/Carnage, and if The Abomination should wear trunks or nothing at all, this sounds more like a discussion thread to me.
Can anyone give me any ideas for a War Machine special or hyper, that's original, and something War Machine would do, it would be a great help!
If you don't have any ideas, and only have 1 sprite for each character, then its not really a WIP, I wil move this to the Mugen Discussion thread.
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Alright this is more of a discussion about orange Venom/Carnage, and if The Abomination should wear trunks or nothing at all, this sounds more like a discussion thread to me.
Can anyone give me any ideas for a War Machine special or hyper, that's original, and something War Machine would do, it would be a great help!
If you don't have any ideas, and only have 1 sprite for each character, then its not really a WIP, I wil move this to the Mugen Discussion thread.
Agreed, lets see some progress and prehaps this will be a WIP
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there was a 'carnage' palette swap? what game...sounds awful
I believe it was a secret character in Marvel Super Heroes.
Don't know about Marvel Super Heroes, I never really played it much, but in Marvel vs Capcom, Venom had an alternate costume, Carnage, which was just Venom with an orange palette, and THAT was horrible since Venom and Carnage are obviously not the same size.
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They never referred to him as carnage. his logo, is name under the lifebar, everything still said "venom." the closest thing to is the fact that he was called "red venom." sometimes. You'll notice that shadow lady has her name and logo changed to reflect teh character's name, instead of just saying "chun-li"
The story was that is was eddie brock who happened to get a different symbiote. each of the Pallete swap characters had a story like this.
the orange hulk was supposed to be bruce banner if he didn't get hit with the full dose of gamma radiation, the gold warmachine was supposed to be rhodes with a new set of armor, and the red venom was supposed to be eddie brock with a different symbiote.
this is different than the pallete swap characters in MSHvSF, where they're names actually changed to say "armored spiderman, mech zangief, mephisto, U.S.Agent, ect."
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ummm you didn't abort this three characters once again, did you?
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ok, first this "bad" superman is being work on by kal elvis, so i don t see the point to lose your time.
Second, this abomination doesn t look like abomination.
Three war machine is just an helper on my us agent character, read well, and the design is really different: (http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6940/warmachinefc9.png)
and before i forget mcready is working on him and doing a great job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVK88JTDMY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVK88JTDMY)
SO, because i know you will never finish them, you should start with easy wips. I didn t want to sound harsh, but time will prove i am right AS ITALIAN STALLION;
Sweeet. Is there an expected date that his WM might be released? I can't wait to play as him. Hands down the best WM i've seen.
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wasnt carnage a help in the original Marvel vs capcom?
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I'm sorry for not posting in a while, my computer, got busted. So, I couldn't do anything for mugen, sorry! \-/o So, I'll probably start trying to do something with War Machine! ;D
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wasnt carnage a help in the original Marvel vs capcom?
nope.
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This is my new design for War Machine. I will try to incorporate some of the hypers and specials, some people have suggested!
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7896/mvc2warmachine91uv8.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
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i like the warmachine
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This is my new design for War Machine. I will try to incorporate some of the hypers and specials, some people have suggested!
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7896/mvc2warmachine91uv8.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Looks impressive. That should have been the direction Capcom took to make War Machine.
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Thanks for the Compliments, I'm glad you guys like it!
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This is my new design for War Machine. I will try to incorporate some of the hypers and specials, some people have suggested!
Wow Bro... That Looks Like A Case Of Massive Color Loss.
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Hybasuka, I must say you have improved, but there seems to be some color loss in the image. I hope that is not how it actually looks.
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Yeah lol I've never seen anything like that he uploaded it as a gif picture and it gets the same quality as a jpg picture.
Sprite + Jpg format= Fail :D
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change the color of the legs too
(http://images.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://jjinbeat.com/Cap/StarSpangledSite/IronMan-WarMachine.jpg&imgrefurl=http://marvelironman.wordpress.com/tag/costume/page/2/&usg=__CboT7Txek16ihs7VI0wX-WSC4ZQ=&h=625&w=500&sz=106&hl=fr&start=1&um=1&tbnid=jXkjUGLISrSHVM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwar%2Bmachine%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dfr%26sa%3DN)
but you have improved ;)