Post by: Uche_of_IMT on July 29, 2008, 12:41:33 PM
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 29, 2008, 02:47:32 PM
But The PS3 is the powerhouse of them all.
Post by: ATiC3 on July 29, 2008, 02:59:48 PM
XBOX360 WINS! Fatality!
Post by: inspecterclouseau on July 29, 2008, 03:01:50 PM
Post by: desgrav on July 29, 2008, 03:01:59 PM
XBOX360 will definitely win.... I mean... PS3 is actually losing their exclusive games, because they are all going to the 360... Final Fantasy XIII and Metal Gear Solid 4 are coming out on the XBOX360! So... the PS3 is definitely going to lose its market, because most of its exclusives aren't exclusices anymore... I can't see the PS3 doing any good within the next few years... because really... I don't think the PS3 is going to last for even another 5 months...Where did you here that? <_<|...|
XBOX360 WINS! Fatality!
Post by: ATiC3 on July 29, 2008, 03:04:07 PM
It was announced a while ago.XBOX360 will definitely win.... I mean... PS3 is actually losing their exclusive games, because they are all going to the 360... Final Fantasy XIII and Metal Gear Solid 4 are coming out on the XBOX360! So... the PS3 is definitely going to lose its market, because most of its exclusives aren't exclusices anymore... I can't see the PS3 doing any good within the next few years... because really... I don't think the PS3 is going to last for even another 5 months...Where did you here that?<_<|...|
XBOX360 WINS! Fatality!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Metal+Gear+Solid+4+for+the+XBOX360 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Metal+Gear+Solid+4+for+the+XBOX360)
I've read all of those... a few say they won't, but most say that it's already in the making of having a 360 version.:)
EDIT: This tells a little more....
http://www.pcworld.com/article/140968/metal_gear_solid_4_coming_to_xbox_360.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/140968/metal_gear_solid_4_coming_to_xbox_360.html)
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 29, 2008, 03:06:04 PM
Metal Gear Solid 4 are coming out on the XBOX360!
WOAH, Ummm NO!!!
[-X
They CANT PORT the game, they would have to change a LOT of the code. Would they really go through all the trouble to switch the iPod with a Zune.
The iPod in the game is the huge reason why MGS4 isnt going to the 360, just get over it Fanboys!!
Besides a message in the game Makes fun of the 360. ;)
Post by: desgrav on July 29, 2008, 03:08:21 PM
All I read was that it was still a rumor and people are still waiting so maybe or maybe not. And wouldn't it be announced at E3 or at least be on ign.It was announced a while ago.XBOX360 will definitely win.... I mean... PS3 is actually losing their exclusive games, because they are all going to the 360... Final Fantasy XIII and Metal Gear Solid 4 are coming out on the XBOX360! So... the PS3 is definitely going to lose its market, because most of its exclusives aren't exclusices anymore... I can't see the PS3 doing any good within the next few years... because really... I don't think the PS3 is going to last for even another 5 months...Where did you here that? <_<|...|
XBOX360 WINS! Fatality!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Metal+Gear+Solid+4+for+the+XBOX360 (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Metal+Gear+Solid+4+for+the+XBOX360)
I've read all of those... a few say they won't, but most say that it's already in the making of having a 360 version. :)
But I still have my vote on the PS3 because it has the best technology. Blu-ray = Longer/better games.
Post by: ATiC3 on July 29, 2008, 03:20:56 PM
Post by: thefisherkings on July 29, 2008, 03:26:59 PM
Post by: nick09 on July 29, 2008, 03:29:02 PM
- Sixaxis motion control.
- Media power house(supports tons of file types).
- Blu-Ray DVD's.
- 60 and 80GB versions of the NTSC PS3 support PS2 and ps1 games.
- 20 and 40GB versions support ps1 games depending on the region of the PS3.
- Web browser(6 windows max) with flash 7.
- supports up to seven controllers.
- Multiple processors for video games to allow better effects.
- Scales DVD's up to 1080P if you have a HD compatible TV and cable(HDMI for example).
- Your own music can be played depending if the game supports it.
- In-game XMB.
- Online play is free.
- Rumble in the latest PS3 lineup with dualshock 3.
- Supports Bluetooth.
- 2.5 laptop HDD is replaceable.
PS3: The Bad
- Does not support PS2 Backwards compatibility depending on the model you buy.
- PS2 and PS1 games are jaggy(not if you set the smooth option when you press the PS button).
- Expensive compared to the 360 but the PS3 has Blu-Ray which is a new technology.
Thats all I can list from my head at the moment.
@ATICE: MGS4 going to the 360 is a rumor.
Look at what I find in the link:
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For more computer gaming news, visit GamePro. Story copyright © 2007 IDG Entertainment. All rights reserved.
This story was made back in 2007 and yet we don't heard Microsoft claiming MGS4 into their Console. Even Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots) does not even have a 360 version listed there.
NOTE:
We don't need ANY fanboy wars starting here. OK?
Post by: desgrav on July 29, 2008, 07:40:57 PM
PS3: The GoodDon't forget that any game released both on the 360 and PS3 looks better and sometimes has more content. Ex: GTA4, DMC4, Assasin's Creed. And free online doesn't hurt to add to the list.
- Sixaxis motion control.
- Media power house(supports tons of file types).
- Blu-Ray DVD's.
- 60 and 80GB versions of the NTSC PS3 support PS2 and ps1 games.
- 20 and 40GB versions support ps1 games depending on the region of the PS3.
- Web browser(6 windows max) with flash 7.
- supports up to seven controllers.
- Multiple processors for video games to allow better effects.
- Scales DVD's up to 1080P if you have a HD compatible TV and cable(HDMI for example).
- Your own music can be played depending if the game supports it.
- In-game XMB.
- Online play is free.
- Rumble in the latest PS3 lineup with dualshock 3.
- Supports Bluetooth.
- 2.5 laptop HDD is replaceable.
PS3: The Bad
- Does not support PS2 Backwards compatibility depending on the model you buy.
- PS2 and PS1 games are jaggy(not if you set the smooth option when you press the PS button).
- Expensive compared to the 360 but the PS3 has Blu-Ray which is a new technology.
Thats all I can list from my head at the moment.
@ATICE: MGS4 going to the 360 is a rumor.
Look at what I find in the link:QuoteFor more computer gaming news, visit GamePro. Story copyright © 2007 IDG Entertainment. All rights reserved.
This story was made back in 2007 and yet we don't heard Microsoft claiming MGS4 into their Console. Even Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_4:_Guns_of_the_Patriots) does not even have a 360 version listed there.
NOTE:
We don't need ANY fanboy wars starting here. OK?
Post by: Manic on July 29, 2008, 07:59:58 PM
I choose the Wii, though. I like it over the other two. The PS3's design looks horrible, and the 360 is kinda just another Xbox.
Post by: KPT25 on July 29, 2008, 08:14:09 PM
The less expensive of the three,has some of the biggest hits in the game industry so far(PBR,Super Mario Galaxy,Brawl...did i mention brawl previously??),and it`s the only one of the three that innovates with its controller
Nintendo has always dominated the portable consoles market with the Gameboys and the DS,and now it`s the wii the one who is dominating the big console war
Btw,Ds and wii are compatible,and you can use both consoles to play with them...i don`t believe PSP and PS3 can be synched or something like that
Post by: nick09 on July 29, 2008, 08:34:14 PM
MGS4 should happen on the Wii.This will not happen. As a developer would not remake a whole 1080P game into 480P as it will take a ton of time and resources, not to mention you would have 2-3 dvds of content at least. The Wii is meant to be for non-hardcore gamers. The Wii may get the award for the smallest nextgen console but it is not powerful.
@KPT: The PS3 does that, lookup PSP remote play.
Post by: ATiC3 on July 30, 2008, 12:36:31 AM
#1 - XBOX360
#2 - Playstation 3
#3 - Nintendo Wii
#4 - PSP
#5 - Nintendo DS
XBOX360 is in lead, obviously, because of all the money that the company has generated. There are a lot of games that are more entertaining on the 360 than on the PS3. This is also due to their 'at-times exclusives' (meaning there are rarely any of them, but they are really good)... an example would be Dead Rising as an XBOX360 'exclusive'.
Playstation 3 is already going down in the market, because of the company putting the price of the console system way too low. The Playstation 3 (already!) is to be rumored to be taken off of shelves within the next year due to low consumer response and rarely any new exclusives. (Do not settle this argument with me here, if you have one... please PM me if you wish to argue...)
Also, Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming for the XBOX360... it is not only rumored... but is already in production... Am I saying that it will be better than the PS3 version? Most likely not, because the PS3 can hold way more memory, and etc., which is why I am expecting at least 2 game discs for the 360 version...
End of my discussion.
Post by: KPT25 on July 30, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
Post by: Aura-Master on July 30, 2008, 12:41:57 AM
Post by: ATiC3 on July 30, 2008, 12:45:43 AM
*prepares for another console war* %-(:D
I do agree with nick09 on one thing, though.... MGS4 on the Wii = not possible...
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 30, 2008, 01:48:37 AM
Also, Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming for the XBOX360... it is not only rumored... but is already in production...
Ignore it, and it'll go away. Ignore it, and it'll go away.(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6330/eusawallhq3.gif)
Apple is Microsoft's competitor. There's an ipod in the game.
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Playstation 3 is already going down in the market, because of the company putting the price of the console system way too low. The Playstation 3 (already!) is to be rumored to be taken off of shelves within the next year due to low consumer response
ONTOPIC: PS3 has Blu-ray, I'm seeing the PS3 is Here to stay for another 3 years at least. My uncle Bought the PS3 SOLELY for the Blu-ray player.
Post by: desgrav on July 30, 2008, 01:51:21 AM
it is not only rumored... but is already in production...So if its rumored how is it also in production. O_O
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 30, 2008, 01:53:27 AM
Pow, right in the kisser!it is not only rumored... but is already in production...So if its rumored how is it also in production. O_O
Post by: ATiC3 on July 30, 2008, 02:31:34 AM
[-XPow, right in the kisser!it is not only rumored... but is already in production...So if its rumored how is it also in production. O_O
I meant to quote a previous post, but I forgot to... Basically I was saying that it has been rumored (BEFORE!), but now it is already in production.... Just clarifying that... so no... no pow in the kisser! :-w
Post by: inspecterclouseau on July 30, 2008, 02:36:10 AM
I don't beleve it. You just a PS3 hater and I am not starting any fanboy wars.[-XPow, right in the kisser!it is not only rumored... but is already in production...So if its rumored how is it also in production. O_O
I meant to quote a previous post, but I forgot to... Basically I was saying that it has been rumored (BEFORE!), but now it is already in production.... Just clarifying that... so no... no pow in the kisser! :-w
Post by: Cyclysm on July 30, 2008, 03:10:30 AM
its games are sub-par and if were MultiPlatform no one would talk about them..the only reason they get any hype is because they are exclusive
and Blu-Ray=does not equal better and longer games ...... Blu-Ray=Mandatory installs
and bragging about XMB in PS3 is stupid..PS3 just got that, when 360 has had it since 2005 :D
Post by: nick09 on July 30, 2008, 07:43:48 AM
@ATICE: If MGS4 was going to the 360 we would of heard it in production at E3 by now. :(|)
Post by: ATiC3 on July 30, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
What would be cool is if Microsoft would invent something better than Blu-Ray, or buy the Blu-Ray from Sony, and put it on their system... which would be an epic fail for the PS3, no doubt.
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Quote from Wikipedia - Playstation 3 - Sales and Production Costs
The PlayStation 3's initial production cost is estimated to have been US$805.85 for the 20 GB model and US$840.35 for the 60 GB model.[70] However, they were priced at US$499 and US$599 respectively,[71] meaning that every unit was sold at an estimated loss of $250,[70] contributing to Sony's games division posting an operating loss of ¥232.3 billion (US$1.97 billion) in the fiscal year ending March 2007.[72] In April 2007, soon after these results were published, Ken Kutaragi, President of Sony Computer Entertainment, announced plans to retire. Various news agencies, including The Times[73] and The Wall Street Journal[74] reported that this was due to poor sales, whilst SCEI maintains that Kutaragi had been planning his retirement for six months prior to the announcement.[74]
In January 2008, Kaz Hirai, CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment, suggested that the console may start making a profit by early 2009 stating that, "the next fiscal year starts in April and if we can try to achieve that in the next fiscal year that would be a great thing" and, "that (profitability) is not a definite commitment, but that is what I would like to try to shoot for".[75] However, market analysts Nikko Citigroup have predicted that the PlayStation 3 could be profitable by August 2008.[76]
Since the system's launch, production costs have been reduced significantly as a result of phasing out the Emotion Engine chip and falling hardware costs.[77][78] The cost of manufacturing Cell microprocessors has fallen dramatically as a result of moving to the 65 nm production process,[79][78] and Blu-ray diodes have become cheaper to manufacture.[77][80] As of January 2008, each unit costs around $400 to manufacture.[81][82]
On January 7, 2007, Sony met its goal of shipping 1 million units to North America.[83] Just over a week later, on January 16, 2007, Sony confirmed they had shipped 1 million units in Japan, bringing the worldwide total to over 2 million shipped.[84] As of April 1, 2007, approximately 5.5 million units had been shipped worldwide. (By June 30th, 2007, XBOX360 sold over 12 million units.)[72]
The PlayStation 3 is currently behind its competitor systems, the Wii and the Xbox 360, in total worldwide sales. In Japan during 2007, the Wii outsold the PlayStation 3 by as much as 6 to 1 in some months.[85][86][87] The PlayStation 3 has been more successful in Japan in 2008; 2,009,492 PlayStation 3 consoles were sold; outselling the Xbox 360, which was released almost a year earlier than its competitors, which sold 602,558 units. Both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 were outsold by the Wii, which sold 5,695,579 units, according to Famitsu/Enterbrain.[67][68]
From October 2007 to November 2007, sales of the PlayStation 3 went up by 285% in the United States.[88] Sony CEO Howard Stringer attributed the growth to a price cut and Nintendo's inability to manufacture the Wii system at a rate high enough to meet public demand.[89]
As of January 1, 2008, the PlayStation 3 has sold 3.25 million units in the United States according to the NPD Group,[90][91][92] 1,673,063 in Japan according to Enterbrain,[93][94] over 180,000 in Australia according to GameSpot,[95] and an estimated 2.8 million in Europe according to Electronic Arts.[96][97] Total worldwide sales as of January 1, 2008 are 10.49 million according to Sony.[98][99]
In the United States, the PlayStation 3 outsold the Xbox 360 for the first time in January 2008 according to the NPD Group.[100][101][102] A day prior to the NPD sales figures being released Microsoft said that the Xbox 360 had shortages for that month in the US.[103][104][105] Prior to January 2008 the PlayStation 3 had been a consistent third behind the Wii and the Xbox 360 in US sales.[104] The PlayStation 3 also outsold the Xbox 360 in February 2008,[106][107] but was then outsold by the Xbox 360 in March 2008 according to the NPD Group.[108] In June 2008, PS3 again outsold Xbox 360 by a margin of 405,500 to 219,800.[109]
So.. Basically the end is near for the Playstation 3... the system is only hanging by a thread, because of the new Blu-Ray technology... that's it...
@Cyclsym: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Blu-ray_Disc_devices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Blu-ray_Disc_devices)
There are tons of others than the PS3 that should work just fine. Samsung is a very good company, and I'm sure there stand alone Blu-Ray Players are just fine.
Post by: xPreatorianx on July 30, 2008, 11:28:49 AM
Post by: nick09 on July 30, 2008, 01:15:46 PM
@ATICE: Sony invented the blu-ray, they own the shares in the stock market. Would Sony honesty sell the right to incorprate blu-ray into the Xbox to Microsoft? Sony help founded the blu-ray format. See the wikipedia page here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc_Association).
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The current 18 board members (as of January 2008) are:[4]
* Apple Inc.
* Dell Inc.
* Hewlett-Packard Company
* Hitachi, Ltd.
* LG Electronics
* Mitsubishi Electric
* Panasonic (Matsushita Electric)
* Pioneer Corporation
* Royal Philips Electronics
* Samsung Electronics
* Sharp Corporation
* Sony Corporation
* Sun Microsystems
* TDK Corporation
* Thomson SA
* Twentieth Century Fox
* Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group / Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment
* Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc.
Microsoft is not even on the main blu-ray site member's list:
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/en/about/SupportingCompanies.html (http://www.blu-raydisc.com/en/about/SupportingCompanies.html)
Post by: desgrav on July 30, 2008, 02:04:33 PM
and Blu-Ray=does not equal better and longer games ...... Blu-Ray=Mandatory installsI don't get it if Blu-Ray has more storage capacity doesn't that mean you can have more content on one disc.
What would be cool is if Microsoft would invent something better than Blu-Ray, or buy the Blu-Ray from Sony, and put it on their system... which would be an epic fail for the PS3, no doubt.Ok, if Microsoft did that the consumers would have to buy a new system or add-on which would make it more expensive. And do you think by the time that happens it will still be "cheaper" than the PS3? And that new format will many problems for game developers like a new price-tag for games.
The ps3 graphics look watered down compared to the 360 counterparts.So why does GTA4 look muddy and dark compared to the PS3? And why does DMC4 look much better on the PS3 than the 360?
Post by: nick09 on July 30, 2008, 02:23:19 PM
Post by: ATiC3 on July 30, 2008, 02:25:20 PM
Uh... it doesn't... It looks much better than the PS3 version, actually.and Blu-Ray=does not equal better and longer games ...... Blu-Ray=Mandatory installsI don't get it if Blu-Ray has more storage capacity doesn't that mean you can have more content on one disc.What would be cool is if Microsoft would invent something better than Blu-Ray, or buy the Blu-Ray from Sony, and put it on their system... which would be an epic fail for the PS3, no doubt.Ok, if Microsoft did that the consumers would have to buy a new system or add-on which would make it more expensive. And do you think by the time that happens it will still be "cheaper" than the PS3? And that new format will many problems for game developers like a new price-tag for games.The ps3 graphics look watered down compared to the 360 counterparts.So why does GTA4 look muddy and dark compared to the PS3? And why does DMC4 look much better on the PS3 than the 360?
Post by: Cyclysm on July 30, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
and Blu-Ray=does not equal better and longer games ...... Blu-Ray=Mandatory installsI don't get it if Blu-Ray has more storage capacity doesn't that mean you can have more content on one disc.What would be cool is if Microsoft would invent something better than Blu-Ray, or buy the Blu-Ray from Sony, and put it on their system... which would be an epic fail for the PS3, no doubt.Ok, if Microsoft did that the consumers would have to buy a new system or add-on which would make it more expensive. And do you think by the time that happens it will still be "cheaper" than the PS3? And that new format will many problems for game developers like a new price-tag for games.The ps3 graphics look watered down compared to the 360 counterparts.So why does GTA4 look muddy and dark compared to the PS3? And why does DMC4 look much better on the PS3 than the 360?
It doesn't DMC4 looks slightly sharper on 360 while the PS3 version textures are a little blury
http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/9/4/1/0/2/dmc15.jpg.jpg (http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/9/4/1/0/2/dmc15.jpg.jpg)
look at Berial's chest
and GTA4 looking better on ps3 is mainly an opinion..here is a video comparing the two and the 360 version looks better
http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/29-04-2008-389.html (http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/29-04-2008-389.html)
and look how superior Assassin's creed is on 360 compared to PS3
http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/8/8/4/6/1/ss_preview_1080p4.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true (http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/8/8/4/6/1/ss_preview_1080p4.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true)
this is because Xbox 360 has a superior graphics card and GPU
the PS3's 7800GTX has less raw processing power than the Microsoft Xbox 360 GPU.
and the Blu-Ray may have more storage capacity but is a slower optical disc format and it takes longer to read the data off it's disc.
@ ATICE, the only reason I have not bought a standalone Blu-Ray player is because all the up to date ones with all the latest Java features are expensive as hell........
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on July 30, 2008, 04:14:28 PM
(http://www.ps3forums.com/image.php?s=143458fd23efd9bf0a62b9484cfa1192&u=43337&type=sigpic&dateline=1210537582)
Post by: The Anvil on July 30, 2008, 04:15:40 PM
ps3 sux IMO
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on July 30, 2008, 04:17:36 PM
i went for 360, wii is cool toodo you own a ps3 ;*))
ps3 sux IMO
Post by: Cyclysm on July 30, 2008, 04:20:43 PM
IMO you can only judge something when you have experienced it and or own it so all this jibber jabber about the best system is pointless if you OWN the system then it's the best system if you don't own it and bee-otch and moan about how inferior it is to This other system your Obviously BUTT hurt STFU go on with what you own and enjoy your gaming experience Be happy you even own a next gen system just look at this diagram
(http://www.ps3forums.com/image.php?s=143458fd23efd9bf0a62b9484cfa1192&u=43337&type=sigpic&dateline=1210537582)
I bet you are referring to me as being ''Butt-Hurt'' when I own 360 and PS3 and gonna get a Wii soon,Please don't resort to name calling because I dissed your favorite system
because Fanboy hurt feelings over consumer electronic products is sad.
I am saying facts about PS3
although this thread fails entirely because you cannot come up with an answer when the question is something opinion related
agrees with your image BloodNinja
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on July 30, 2008, 04:31:29 PM
(http://www.ps3forums.com/image.php?s=143458fd23efd9bf0a62b9484cfa1192&u=43337&type=sigpic&dateline=1210537582)
FTMFW!
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on July 30, 2008, 04:40:03 PM
i own a ps3 and a 360 now imagine me bashing the wii ;*)) and i wasn't referring to anyone also I'm just stating facts it's like saying the moon sucks when you have never been to it. As for name calling BUTT hurt is just an expression i chose to say for the lol's.IMO you can only judge something when you have experienced it and or own it so all this jibber jabber about the best system is pointless if you OWN the system then it's the best system if you don't own it and bee-otch and moan about how inferior it is to This other system your Obviously BUTT hurt STFU go on with what you own and enjoy your gaming experience Be happy you even own a next gen system just look at this diagram
(http://www.ps3forums.com/image.php?s=143458fd23efd9bf0a62b9484cfa1192&u=43337&type=sigpic&dateline=1210537582)
I bet you are referring to me as being ''Butt-Hurt'' when I own 360 and PS3 and gonna get a Wii soon,Please don't resort to name calling because I dissed your favorite system
because Fanboy hurt feelings over consumer electronic products is sad.
I am saying facts about PS3
although this thread fails entirely because you cannot come up with an answer when the question is something opinion related
agrees with your image BloodNinja
Post by: nick09 on July 30, 2008, 04:52:03 PM
I have played the 360 before but the playstation controller is what I grown up with excluding my SNES.
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on July 30, 2008, 09:30:33 PM
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XBOX360 is in lead, obviously, because of all the money that the company has generated. There are a lot of games that are more entertaining on the 360 than on the PS3. This is also due to their 'at-times exclusives' (meaning there are rarely any of them, but they are really good)... an example would be Dead Rising as an XBOX360 'exclusive'.
Well yea of course it is in the lead......it had a year start. If you look at just US sales alone Xbox still has firm ground, BUT you look at world wide sales. Japan HATES the 360, 360 is losing ground in Europe as the PS3 is gonna catch up to it within a year at current pace and the PS3 has sold more than the 360 this year in the US. The fact it has more entertaining games leans on more of the fact it had a year lead. FYI last time I checked, Devil May Cry 4 has sold more on the PS3 worldwide than the 360.
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Playstation 3 is already going down in the market, because of the company putting the price of the console system way too low. The Playstation 3 (already!) is to be rumored to be taken off of shelves within the next year due to low consumer response and rarely any new exclusives. (Do not settle this argument with me here, if you have one... please PM me if you wish to argue...)
All consoles sale at a loss, they make it up by software sales. As for those rumors, it is probably not true as it is doing better and Europe and Japan. In Europe as mentioned, it should past the 360 in sales. I have no idea where you heard that rumor from, but it simply isn't true as the PS3 is selling pretty well overall. Again, check VG Chartz for this. I am putting this out there so that people aren't missed informed.
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Also, Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming for the XBOX360... it is not only rumored... but is already in production... Am I saying that it will be better than the PS3 version? Most likely not, because the PS3 can hold way more memory, and etc., which is why I am expecting at least 2 game discs for the 360 version...
So far you were proven wrong on this. You posted 2 links, one of which was a google search and another link that was posted in 2007. M$ would have announced it at E3 that they would have MG4. I mean it is MGS 4, they would love to announce a HUGE game like this as soon as possible. I mean it is rumored that Star Ocean 4 is gonna be on the PS3. It is rumored that Mass Effect is gonna be on the PS3. It is just that, rumors, take it as a grain of salt.
Post by: Cyclysm on July 30, 2008, 09:52:12 PM
QuoteXBOX360 is in lead, obviously, because of all the money that the company has generated. There are a lot of games that are more entertaining on the 360 than on the PS3. This is also due to their 'at-times exclusives' (meaning there are rarely any of them, but they are really good)... an example would be Dead Rising as an XBOX360 'exclusive'.
Well yea of course it is in the lead......it had a year start. If you look at just US sales alone Xbox still has firm ground, BUT you look at world wide sales. Japan HATES the 360, 360 is losing ground in Europe as the PS3 is gonna catch up to it within a year at current pace and the PS3 has sold more than the 360 this year in the US. The fact it has more entertaining games leans on more of the fact it had a year lead. FYI last time I checked, Devil May Cry 4 has sold more on the PS3 worldwide than the 360.QuotePlaystation 3 is already going down in the market, because of the company putting the price of the console system way too low. The Playstation 3 (already!) is to be rumored to be taken off of shelves within the next year due to low consumer response and rarely any new exclusives. (Do not settle this argument with me here, if you have one... please PM me if you wish to argue...)
All consoles sale at a loss, they make it up by software sales. As for those rumors, it is probably not true as it is doing better and Europe and Japan. In Europe as mentioned, it should past the 360 in sales. I have no idea where you heard that rumor from, but it simply isn't true as the PS3 is selling pretty well overall. Again, check VG Chartz for this. I am putting this out there so that people aren't missed informed.QuoteAlso, Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming for the XBOX360... it is not only rumored... but is already in production... Am I saying that it will be better than the PS3 version? Most likely not, because the PS3 can hold way more memory, and etc., which is why I am expecting at least 2 game discs for the 360 version...
So far you were proven wrong on this. You posted 2 links, one of which was a google search and another link that was posted in 2007. M$ would have announced it at E3 that they would have MG4. I mean it is MGS 4, they would love to announce a HUGE game like this as soon as possible. I mean it is rumored that Star Ocean 4 is gonna be on the PS3. It is rumored that Mass Effect is gonna be on the PS3. It is just that, rumors, take it as a grain of salt.
I love the whole ''360'' was released first argument
look at Wii it's outselling 360 and PS3 and it came out last :DxDie
MGS4 will not be on 360
Mass Effect will not be on PS3 it's published by Microsoft not even the second coming of Christ could get it on ps3....a sequel could be on PS3 but not the first
and Kojima is a Sony Fanboy so MGS will not be on 360
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on July 30, 2008, 10:19:13 PM
Cyclysm's right. This thread is based on opinion, so it fails hard.
Post by: ItalianStallion on July 30, 2008, 11:43:12 PM
Post by: Silly Da Willy on July 31, 2008, 12:11:43 AM
ITT: A bunch of kids fight over video games.
Cyclysm's right. This thread is based on opinion, so it fails hard.
Co-Sign.
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on July 31, 2008, 12:42:48 AM
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I love the whole ''360'' was released first argument
look at Wii it's outselling 360 and PS3 and it came out last dies laughing
MGS4 will not be on 360
Mass Effect will not be on PS3 it's published by Microsoft not even the second coming of Christ could get it on ps3....a sequel could be on PS3 but not the first
and Kojima is a Sony Fanboy so MGS will not be on 360
The Wii attracts a more causal crowd than the PS3. Also the 360 and the PS3 are going after the same hardcore gamer crowd more so than the casual gamer crowd (little kids, old people, etc.), like the Wii is. I am not saying that the Wii is a kiddy console, it is just a more diverse console. Since the argument was about the 360 over the PS3 and not the Wii over the PS3, it still stands that the 360 was out before the PS3.
As for Mass Effect, I too don't think it will be on the PS3, but I was simply trying to point that rumors are just that, rumors. Kojima might be a Sony fanboy, but Konami has the final say. If they REALLY want to make it a multiplat, they can.
Post by: shinrahunter on July 31, 2008, 06:11:35 AM
Until it has more real games (as opposed to full length mini games) it'll never be "diverse" imho.
I don't own a Wii, but I have played on one, call me old fashioned but I just don't like the controls. me & the missus were decided at xmas what to get, the wii was out straight off the bat, so it was down to 360 or PS3.
she's a playstation fangirl and hated the original xbox so we chose the PS3 & I'm glad we did.
I think the PS3 has the better exclusives, Halo 2 put me off Halo 3 & I'd hate to miss out on games like Little Big Planet or God of War 3.
tbh, from what I've seen graphically most of the multi platform games (I'm talking PS3 & 360 here as the Wii is like a gamecube on steds) look pretty much the same. I don't have HDTV so I don't know if that's where the proof lies.
Post by: nick09 on July 31, 2008, 08:31:06 AM
Post by: ATiC3 on July 31, 2008, 09:52:46 AM
#1 - XBOX360
#2 - Nintendo Wii
#3 - PS3
If Microsoft becomes incredibly dull within the next year, then the Wii may actually have a chance... but otherwise the Wii is no where near better than the 360. I would say that it beats the PS3, though. It's simplier, & fun and easy to use. Quite a few games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Super Mario Galaxy have bumped it up to 2nd place.
Again, (this is my opinion, so don't be an idiot) PS3 is only hanging on by a thread, because of the Blu-Ray... mostly all of the exclusives are no longer exclusives and have been made for either the 360 or the Wii... It's just fact... In the end, I think Sony should re-consider what they're doing with the PS3... it's really been shipped more, because it's newer and more popular than the 360...
This is the end of my posts for this topic, because really... it's gone on long enough...
Post by: thefisherkings on July 31, 2008, 12:26:29 PM
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on July 31, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
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Again, (this is my opinion, so don't be an idiot) PS3 is only hanging on by a thread, because of the Blu-Ray... mostly all of the exclusives are no longer exclusives and have been made for either the 360 or the Wii... It's just fact... In the end, I think Sony should re-consider what they're doing with the PS3... it's really been shipped more, because it's newer and more popular than the 360...
I am just saying how I don't see how it is hanging by a thread when it has outsold the 360 in world wide this year. It is killing the 360 in Japan, will catch up and surpass the 360 in Europe at current pace and has gained ground in the US. By sometime next year at current pace, it should surpass the 360 in world wide sales. Sony shouldn't re-consider anything when it has done great this year. I in all honesty don't see how all that is considered, hanging on by a thread. I agree, one huge reason why Sony is even in this, is its Blu-Ray. Anyone who says otherwise is foolish. With ALL that said right now, the 360 due to its software, is still the system to buy with the PS3 bursting from behind. The 360 just simply has more titles and that's its main advantage over the PS3.
The Wii....it only has like 4-6 games I would buy right now lol. It is a good simple system for just about anyone. It just doesn't have enough titles IMO for me to justify a buy.
Post by: shinrahunter on July 31, 2008, 05:10:01 PM
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on July 31, 2008, 07:49:18 PM
tl;dr STFU no one cares. Let the systems be.
Oh and Shinrahunter, your arguments are outdated. Come up with something that's relatively new. Oh wait, you can't. You've already trolled enough for one lifetime. Besides, you mentioned your girl is a PS fangirl, so basically all of your posts are just biased p.o.s. Go fanboy somewhere else.
Post by: Scar on August 01, 2008, 02:43:19 AM
If you guys are going to get all pissy about what someone said about your favorite console then just dont post..
Whatever happened to discussing things like adults here..
Some of you are teenagers but come on you know better guys..
Consider this a fair warning to everybody posting in this thread.
Post by: shinrahunter on August 01, 2008, 05:07:38 AM
Lighten up, no-ones getting hurt.
I understand that the wii has it's merits, attracting a new audience & working towards making video games a more accepted past time, but at what cost?
i don't see how my arguments are outdated though....old? Yes..... But still relevant.
And as for the fanboy comment, here's a list of consoles I have/currently own
NES, SNES, Megadrive, GBC, PS1, Saturn, N64, PS2, Dreamcast, GBA, Neo Geo, Gamecube, Xbox, PS3.
I don't understand how you can think I'm a PS fanboy, I wanted the 360 but due to my other half's fangirl-ism, and the fact that we're emigrating, the PS3 was the best choice for us.
What I say may be harsh, but that's me ;)
Trust me, there is no bias here.
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on August 01, 2008, 05:27:24 AM
man, can't even talk to people on here nowadays, I mean it's hardly getting personal or abusive is it?
Lighten up, no-ones getting hurt.
I understand that the wii has it's merits, attracting a new audience & working towards making video games a more accepted past time, but at what cost?
i don't see how my arguments are outdated though....old? Yes..... But still relevant.
And as for the fanboy comment, here's a list of consoles I have/currently own
NES, SNES, Megadrive, GBC, PS1, Saturn, N64, PS2, Dreamcast, GBA, Neo Geo, Gamecube, Xbox, PS3.
I don't understand how you can think I'm a PS fanboy, I wanted the 360 but due to my other half's fangirl-ism, and the fact that we're emigrating, the PS3 was the best choice for us.
What I say may be harsh, but that's me ;)
Trust me, there is no bias here.
Eh, fine I'll take ya word for it.
It's just arguments about consoles are just so....ugh.
Post by: shinrahunter on August 01, 2008, 06:36:23 AM
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on August 03, 2008, 12:13:58 PM
Post by: nick09 on August 03, 2008, 12:44:22 PM
Okay, everyone. Let's all behave like ladies and gentlemen. I made this forum so that we can discuss it in a friendly environment. This should not turn into a flame war.Errr... You never made this forum...
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on August 03, 2008, 12:49:50 PM
Oops. Sorry. Anyway, you know what I mean, nick09.Okay, everyone. Let's all behave like ladies and gentlemen. I made this forum so that we can discuss it in a friendly environment. This should not turn into a flame war.Errr... You never made this forum...
Post by: nick09 on August 03, 2008, 01:10:13 PM
Yes I know. I bet forum came out somehow instead of topic. ;*))Oops. Sorry. Anyway, you know what I mean, nick09.Okay, everyone. Let's all behave like ladies and gentlemen. I made this forum so that we can discuss it in a friendly environment. This should not turn into a flame war.Errr... You never made this forum...
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on August 25, 2008, 10:48:14 AM
Whats the best video game console on the market you ask?
MY QUAD CORE PC OWNZ ALL THREE SYSTEMS!!!!
PC Specs:
Processor: Intel Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 3GB DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive: 320GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
END OF THREAD! :P
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on August 25, 2008, 01:15:14 PM
"Quoting the topic....."@^@ Oooookkkkkaaayyyyy. I think we should grab a bite at our kitchens where it's a little less hostile.
Whats the best video game console on the market you ask?
MY QUAD CORE PC OWNZ ALL THREE SYSTEMS!!!!
PC Specs:
Processor: Intel Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 3GB DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive: 320GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
END OF THREAD! :P
Post by: moonmaster1 on August 25, 2008, 01:25:21 PM
Post by: thefisherkings on August 25, 2008, 01:33:17 PM
Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on August 25, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
If you have xfire then you should know.
Post by: moonmaster1 on August 25, 2008, 01:38:55 PM
Post by: dennis872005 on August 25, 2008, 02:03:20 PM
The only reason why people bash the Wii is because they're just extremely butthurt because Nintendo doesn't pay attention to them anymore. Nintendo wants to make money like the other companies, so they target the market that pays. The "casuals". They'll buy anything Nintendo buys because it's fun, compared to the same boring formula that Microsoft and Sony are pumping out for their systems. The so called "hardcore" gamers don't even matter anymore because they can't even come up with a set definition for themselves, thus their arguments are just moot and makes them all look like idiots for complaining about more people gaming.
tl;dr STFU no one cares. Let the systems be.
Oh and Shinrahunter, your arguments are outdated. Come up with something that's relatively new. Oh wait, you can't. You've already trolled enough for one lifetime. Besides, you mentioned your girl is a PS fangirl, so basically all of your posts are just biased p.o.s. Go fanboy somewhere else.
get out of this topic now. this is to discuss which console is better. the only one butthurt around here seems to be you. oh and the wii does suck. I hooked it up to my 46" hdtv and it is horrible. its only for casual players who don't know better.
I think the ps3 is the best console. not only does it play games but also plays blu-ray. when you factor that in the 360 and definitely the wii seem overpriced. the 360 does have better games so far but overall the ps3 wins. oh and mgs4 is not coming to 360 anytime soon.
"Quoting the topic....."
Whats the best video game console on the market you ask?
MY QUAD CORE PC OWNZ ALL THREE SYSTEMS!!!!
PC Specs:
Processor: Intel Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Memory: 3GB DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive: 320GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Video Card: 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
END OF THREAD! :P
too bad there is no racing game to take advantage of those specs besides GRID. the pc would be the best if it had more games. alot of exclusive ps3 games don't come out for it.
Post by: A! on August 25, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
So PS3 gets my vote.
Post by: dennis872005 on August 25, 2008, 02:14:43 PM
I have both 360 and PS3 but if its gaming wise I would choose 360, but overall wise I would choose PS3
So PS3 gets my vote.
yeah 360 so far has better games but the ps3 wins overall. free online play, blu-ray player and wi-fi built in. no having to buy 100 dollar usb adapter.
Post by: nick09 on August 25, 2008, 02:20:29 PM
Its worth it for me bacause blu-ray players still cost $399 where you can buy the new 80GB out this September for $399 in USA. Europeans are gonna have a 160GB PS3 coming out also.
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on August 25, 2008, 02:43:31 PM
1) Best system for parties.
2) Motion sensor wirless controller that way nobody is calling you lazy for sitting down playing games.
Post by: A! on August 25, 2008, 03:31:31 PM
I say the Wii is the best to me.
1) Best system for parties.
2) Motion sensor wirless controller that way nobody is calling you lazy for sitting down playing games.
PS3 has a better motion sensor and is also wireless 8=| and the whole point for a game console for me is you relax and play, wii makes you jump around like a spaz which you can do outside and its more safer.
Post by: thefisherkings on August 25, 2008, 03:32:08 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 25, 2008, 03:39:32 PM
I say the Wii is the best to me.
1) Best system for parties.
2) Motion sensor wirless controller that way nobody is calling you lazy for sitting down playing games.
PS3 has a better motion sensor and is also wireless 8=| and the whole point for a game console for me is you relax and play, wii makes you jump around like a spaz which you can do outside and its more safer.
Uh the Wii has perfect motion sensing . I still can't get over the responsiveness of the controller . PS3 motion sensing is terrible .
I also agree the wii is a great party system . I have the 360 for graphics , though . Since the wii is not up to par on that level . But it is very fun to play . I also have the PS3 so I have something to rest my feet on when I play the 360 or the wii .
In my opinion the greatest system is the regular Xbox . Not for any of the actual games . Just due to the fact that you can mod it & put every emulator under the sun on it . So in a sense the Xbox is the NES , SNES , Genesis , Master System , Mame , Kawa , Colecovision etc ..... & it also runs mugen :thumbsup:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: thefisherkings on August 25, 2008, 03:47:39 PM
PS3 has motion sensor :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
Post by: A! on August 25, 2008, 03:55:46 PM
I say the Wii is the best to me.
1) Best system for parties.
2) Motion sensor wirless controller that way nobody is calling you lazy for sitting down playing games.
PS3 has a better motion sensor and is also wireless 8=| and the whole point for a game console for me is you relax and play, wii makes you jump around like a spaz which you can do outside and its more safer.
Uh the Wii has perfect motion sensing . I still can't get over the responsiveness of the controller . PS3 motion sensing is terrible .
I also agree the wii is a great party system . I have the 360 for graphics , though . Since the wii is not up to par on that level . But it is very fun to play . I also have the PS3 so I have something to rest my feet on when I play the 360 or the wii .
In my opinion the greatest system is the regular Xbox . Not for any of the actual games . Just due to the fact that you can mod it & put every emulator under the sun on it . So in a sense the Xbox is the NES , SNES , Genesis , Master System , Mame , Kawa , Colecovision etc ..... & it also runs mugen :thumbsup:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
At E3 they basiclly admitted there remote thingy was bad thats why they added that new feature you gotta buy
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 25, 2008, 03:59:56 PM
I say the Wii is the best to me.
1) Best system for parties.
2) Motion sensor wirless controller that way nobody is calling you lazy for sitting down playing games.
PS3 has a better motion sensor and is also wireless 8=| and the whole point for a game console for me is you relax and play, wii makes you jump around like a spaz which you can do outside and its more safer.
Uh the Wii has perfect motion sensing . I still can't get over the responsiveness of the controller . PS3 motion sensing is terrible .
I also agree the wii is a great party system . I have the 360 for graphics , though . Since the wii is not up to par on that level . But it is very fun to play . I also have the PS3 so I have something to rest my feet on when I play the 360 or the wii .
In my opinion the greatest system is the regular Xbox . Not for any of the actual games . Just due to the fact that you can mod it & put every emulator under the sun on it . So in a sense the Xbox is the NES , SNES , Genesis , Master System , Mame , Kawa , Colecovision etc ..... & it also runs mugen :thumbsup:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
At E3 they basiclly admitted there remote thingy was bad thats why they added that new feature you gotta buy
That's for the newer games . The programmers are surpassing what the remote can do . Hey , technology advances so the wiimote did too with the expansion .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: A! on August 25, 2008, 04:10:34 PM
Post by: nick09 on August 25, 2008, 04:55:12 PM
I'm just too spoiled with HD graphics to get a Wii anyways. :-??
Post by: xPreatorianx on August 25, 2008, 05:18:48 PM
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on August 25, 2008, 05:38:53 PM
I have to agree with you tupac. Luckily the wii I have is in the familly room.I say the Wii is the best to me.
1) Best system for parties.
2) Motion sensor wirless controller that way nobody is calling you lazy for sitting down playing games.
PS3 has a better motion sensor and is also wireless 8=| and the whole point for a game console for me is you relax and play, wii makes you jump around like a spaz which you can do outside and its more safer.
Post by: nick09 on August 25, 2008, 08:44:10 PM
Post by: shinrahunter on August 26, 2008, 04:45:12 AM
I have to say though, the motion sensing in ps3 pads is crap. End of.
It's a complete afterthought and I'm very glad it isn't implemented in many of my games. I just know they're gonna use it GOW3 but it isn't responsive enough to be done well.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 26, 2008, 10:18:19 AM
ok...I bet you play games like mario and super smash? etc becuase thats only good games for it
Nope .
Now had you mentioned Zelda , I would've had to say yes . No More Heroes may have been bloodier than alot of 360 games . Wii has the best wireless guitar out since it uses the wiimote . I just like the wii . To me it brought some fun back in gaming . I sit & play 360 games at times & I am so mesmerized by the graphics that I play . But I'm bored out of my mind because the game really isn't fun .
@ Nick09
There's AMF bowling & Brunswick bowling which is more like real bowling
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: A! on August 26, 2008, 11:38:41 AM
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I have to say though, the motion sensing in ps3 pads is sh*t.
Learn to use one, i learnt to use the crap wii remote
Post by: nick09 on August 26, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
Post by: Akeme on August 26, 2008, 01:13:33 PM
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
Post by: A! on August 26, 2008, 01:23:57 PM
All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
Post by: nick09 on August 26, 2008, 01:42:11 PM
The ps3 has plenty of casual games. There is even family games.All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
Info about this game was released 6 days ago:
http://www.viddler.com/explore/Joystiq/videos/22/67.5 (http://www.viddler.com/explore/Joystiq/videos/22/67.5)
Its about taking care of a virtual pet and its a nice way to have fun with the family but I would not use the game personally.
Little Big Planet is one of my favorites so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taiurn541SE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taiurn541SE)
Post by: Whoblehwah on August 26, 2008, 01:46:36 PM
Post by: Akeme on August 26, 2008, 01:59:27 PM
Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
Post by: aristotle on August 26, 2008, 02:02:31 PM
Post by: A! on August 26, 2008, 02:10:57 PM
Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on August 26, 2008, 02:20:23 PM
Post by: nick09 on August 26, 2008, 02:24:49 PM
Add in the fact that its cheaper to have the PS3 as your blu-ray player because it packs more features in updated to the system firmware, such as LiveBD. They are even getting to incredible sizes nowadays in the disk; they even developed a 250GB BD disc with no need to make physical modulations to the player such as this disk here (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=19493).
Post by: Akeme on August 26, 2008, 02:26:53 PM
Ok not to start any arguments i will answer you questions i a mature way. One i don't own any of them as of now but i have freinds that i play with regulary becasue were into tournaments and such. The reason the entire planet as you say knows or has a 360 is becasue microsoft was smart to release their system a year before ps3 so we all know that if that is the latest system out durnig that time everyone will buy it. Now i don't know if you go to tournaments or not major ones i mean and alot of game events major ones or watch them but 90% of gamers that play seriously for competition say over all that the ps3 controller is better in feel and layout. Now to answer you hadcore gamer question there are alot of hardcore games for ps3 for example- Guilty gear (GG), SC3 or SC4, Tekken dr, SF 3rd stike, MvsC2, and all those Snk games and such. Now shooter wise no but in torunaments were all hardcore gamers go you will not see a 360 unless it is a shooting game that we all know as halo and a fighting game called DOA. Now i don't know what you do or watch but if you do watch and attend these events like E3, EVO, Final Round, G4tv then you will know that what i am saying is true becasue even at e3 this year microsoft stressed that their system is aimed toward casuals and Sony stressted that their system is aimed at hardcore gamers. Now if anoyne out there on this site is a gamer and knows alot of info like i do you will know that i am not wrong becasue i am the guy that goes by the overall thing and facts so to not lead this into an argument everyone has their opinion on things but i assure you i am not saying this to be correct but to show you that i know what i am talking about and what is going on in the gaming community.Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
Post by: A! on August 26, 2008, 02:33:57 PM
Ok not to start any arguments i will answer you questions i a mature way. One i don't own any of them as of now but i have freinds that i play with regulary becasue were into tournaments and such. The reason the entire planet as you say knows or has a 360 is becasue microsoft was smart to release their system a year before ps3 so we all know that if that is the latest system out durnig that time everyone will buy it. Now i don't know if you go to tournaments or not major ones i mean and alot of game events major ones or watch them but 90% of gamers that play seriously for competition say over all that the ps3 controller is better in feel and layout. Now to answer you hadcore gamer question there are alot of hardcore games for ps3 for example- Guilty gear (GG), SC3 or SC4, Tekken dr, SF 3rd stike, MvsC2, and all those Snk games and such. Now shooter wise no but in torunaments were all hardcore gamers go you will not see a 360 unless it is a shooting game that we all know as halo and a fighting game called DOA. Now i don't know what you do or watch but if you do watch and attend these events like E3, EVO, Final Round, G4tv then you will know that what i am saying is true becasue even at e3 this year microsoft stressed that their system is aimed toward casuals and Sony stressted that their system is aimed at hardcore gamers. Now if anoyne out there on this site is a gamer and knows alot of info like i do you will know that i am not wrong becasue i am the guy that goes by the overall thing and facts so to not lead this into an argument everyone has their opinion on things but i assure you i am not saying this to be correct but to show you that i know what i am talking about and what is going on in the gaming community.Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
To be honest what you wrote was bull..... and i dont even know what your getting at... :-?? you first said people bought 360 becuase its cheaper now you saying... w/e and the "hardcore" games you named are as sh*t as it can get wont and never have bought any of those games apart from tekken which might be going onto the 360 so is GG..... ..... .....
Post by: Akeme on August 26, 2008, 02:40:21 PM
Post by: thefisherkings on August 26, 2008, 03:24:59 PM
QuoteI have to say though, the motion sensing in ps3 pads is sh*t.
Learn to use one, i learnt to use the sh*t wii remote
Until I met you I didn't understand what a true fanboy was. I don't personally really care about this debate but you should atleast tell the truth, your telling :lies:
Its not just your opinion its :lies: Lets just stick to the facts, Wii-Motion Sensor King PS3 Biggest Processor/With Blue Ray King.
Post by: A! on August 26, 2008, 03:38:13 PM
QuoteI have to say though, the motion sensing in ps3 pads is sh*t.
Learn to use one, i learnt to use the sh*t wii remote
Until I met you I didn't understand what a true fanboy was. I don't personally really care about this debate but you should atleast tell the truth, your telling :lies:
Its not just your opinion its :lies: Lets just stick to the facts, Wii-Motion Sensor King PS3 Biggest Processor/With Blue Ray King.
fanboy? of what 360 or ps3 because iv never heard of one who has 2 rival console
Post by: thefisherkings on August 26, 2008, 04:01:55 PM
Post by: A! on August 26, 2008, 04:26:33 PM
I my opinion when you purpose to hate something else, you become a fanboy. You make me feel like you really hate the WII. Correct me if I'm wrong
No dont "hate" the wii my cousin has it and i like playing two games super smash and mario kart, but what i dont like is when people diss consoles like ps3 and 360 and say wii is better than them with such stupid reason.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 26, 2008, 05:21:02 PM
Ok not to start any arguments i will answer you questions i a mature way. One i don't own any of them as of now but i have freinds that i play with regulary becasue were into tournaments and such. The reason the entire planet as you say knows or has a 360 is becasue microsoft was smart to release their system a year before ps3 so we all know that if that is the latest system out durnig that time everyone will buy it. Now i don't know if you go to tournaments or not major ones i mean and alot of game events major ones or watch them but 90% of gamers that play seriously for competition say over all that the ps3 controller is better in feel and layout. Now to answer you hadcore gamer question there are alot of hardcore games for ps3 for example- Guilty gear (GG), SC3 or SC4, Tekken dr, SF 3rd stike, MvsC2, and all those Snk games and such. Now shooter wise no but in torunaments were all hardcore gamers go you will not see a 360 unless it is a shooting game that we all know as halo and a fighting game called DOA. Now i don't know what you do or watch but if you do watch and attend these events like E3, EVO, Final Round, G4tv then you will know that what i am saying is true becasue even at e3 this year microsoft stressed that their system is aimed toward casuals and Sony stressted that their system is aimed at hardcore gamers. Now if anoyne out there on this site is a gamer and knows alot of info like i do you will know that i am not wrong becasue i am the guy that goes by the overall thing and facts so to not lead this into an argument everyone has their opinion on things but i assure you i am not saying this to be correct but to show you that i know what i am talking about and what is going on in the gaming community.Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
One statement You said is totally incorrect . Everyone has a 360 because it came out before the PS3 . Sega Dreamcast came out before PS2 , but yet everyone bought PS2 & it obviously won the battle . Everyone has a 360 because it is a better system .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: Akeme on August 26, 2008, 05:25:17 PM
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on August 26, 2008, 07:34:48 PM
Post by: Akeme on August 26, 2008, 09:00:01 PM
I sense a fanboy fight.... :-$Sorry there will not be any fanboy fight ppl know me on here to be nice and respected so i dont want to ruin that everyone has their own opinion ;)
Post by: Gaijin on August 26, 2008, 11:01:51 PM
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on August 26, 2008, 11:30:56 PM
this whole thread is kinda funny to me honestly. ps3 is not losing money trust me. it maybe was in the beggining which is probably when those wikipedia numbers came about. so dont you guys ever believe the ps3 is going bye bye and ont believe it ever will go bye bye. its just not gonna happen so the 360 owners out there can stop the rejoicing. and th eps3 is not a piece of crap. another thing i saw that was funny to me was when someone mentioned the games being sub par lol.....alot of the games go on both consoles but how is say one version different than the other when it comes to games such as madden? really a lot of ppl say oh the 360 version is better but how is that when the gameplay is the same on both console version. this very same thing applies to other games that came out on both consoles. ppl will say oh this one on the 360 and/or this one on the ps3 is better when really they are only saying it because of 1 to 3 reasons........they are 1) they hate ps3 and are looking for any opportunity to down the system 2) are 360 fanboys but will never admit it truthfully 3) are trying to make what they bought look better than the rest especially when they have someone to agree with them. point blank how dare some of you say ps3 is a piece of crap when its not by any means and how dare someone say that the only thing thats saving the ps3 is the blu ray when that is soooooooooooo not true. it has other features that are awesome that are reasons why others buy it. by the same token the same thing can be said about us ps3 owners on all accounts. not meant to spark wars. because though im a HUGE fan of Sony I like to look at all points and views but most of 360 owners comments about the other console (ps3) are biased though most arent going to admit that. i mean seriously you would really go through all that wikipedia crap just to try and prove a point that you arent really proving because thats not constant numbers that they keep track of which therefore makes it invalid to even pose as an argument. try getting the actual numbers of Sony and by that i mean from Sony themselves and not wikipedia then u can use that. in truth the whole console war is meaningless and for nothing at all. its like comparing cars....oh mine is better than yours because its has cooler paint or cuz mine is faster than yours (attempt at sarcasm)
Yeah? Well, my car has five wheels. What now? :D
Seriously though, ^^(PM)^
Post by: dennis872005 on August 27, 2008, 01:38:59 AM
Ok not to start any arguments i will answer you questions i a mature way. One i don't own any of them as of now but i have freinds that i play with regulary becasue were into tournaments and such. The reason the entire planet as you say knows or has a 360 is becasue microsoft was smart to release their system a year before ps3 so we all know that if that is the latest system out durnig that time everyone will buy it. Now i don't know if you go to tournaments or not major ones i mean and alot of game events major ones or watch them but 90% of gamers that play seriously for competition say over all that the ps3 controller is better in feel and layout. Now to answer you hadcore gamer question there are alot of hardcore games for ps3 for example- Guilty gear (GG), SC3 or SC4, Tekken dr, SF 3rd stike, MvsC2, and all those Snk games and such. Now shooter wise no but in torunaments were all hardcore gamers go you will not see a 360 unless it is a shooting game that we all know as halo and a fighting game called DOA. Now i don't know what you do or watch but if you do watch and attend these events like E3, EVO, Final Round, G4tv then you will know that what i am saying is true becasue even at e3 this year microsoft stressed that their system is aimed toward casuals and Sony stressted that their system is aimed at hardcore gamers. Now if anoyne out there on this site is a gamer and knows alot of info like i do you will know that i am not wrong becasue i am the guy that goes by the overall thing and facts so to not lead this into an argument everyone has their opinion on things but i assure you i am not saying this to be correct but to show you that i know what i am talking about and what is going on in the gaming community.Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
One statement You said is totally incorrect . Everyone has a 360 because it came out before the PS3 . Sega Dreamcast came out before PS2 , but yet everyone bought PS2 & it obviously won the battle . Everyone has a 360 because it is a better system .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
its time to educate you my friend. what he said is true. the only reason the 360 has a lead is because it came out sooner. the ps3 outsold the 360 last year and it has outsold it this year so far. the 360 lead is only in the US, and the ps3 has won 5 out 7 months that we have data for. here are npd results for the month of july.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19856 (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19856)
Nintendo DS - 608.4K
Wii - 555K
PlayStation 3 - 224.9K
PlayStation Portable - 221.7K
Xbox 360 - 204.8K
Playstation 2 - 155.5K
as you can see the ps3 beat in sales. even with the $300 pro in mid july the $400 dollar and $500 dollar blu ray beat the 360 in sales.
here are june's numbers, it came in dead last. it sold less than the psp. and the ps3 outsold it almost by 2 times
http://pspupdates.qj.net/NPD-Group-releases-June-2008-results/pg/49/aid/122308 (http://pspupdates.qj.net/NPD-Group-releases-June-2008-results/pg/49/aid/122308)
* Nintendo DS- 783,000
* Wii- 666,700
* PlayStation 3 - 405,500
* PSP - 337,400
* Xbox 360 - 219,800
the 360 lead is gone in europe and the 360 is behind in japan. here are japans last week sales.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/japanese-xbox-360-sales-fall-back-to-earth/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/japanese-xbox-360-sales-fall-back-to-earth/)
DS Lite 78,666
PSP 64,413
Wii 53,036
PS3 11,393
PS2 10,168
Xbox 360 7,358
Post by: R.I.C.O - Twon on August 27, 2008, 02:00:30 AM
By the way, I have a 360 only.
Also, Xbox Live is piff lol
Post by: aristotle on August 27, 2008, 02:01:13 AM
Post by: Gaijin on August 27, 2008, 02:39:21 AM
Post by: aristotle on August 27, 2008, 02:54:24 AM
absolutely not to answer your question though not addressed to me. it just means the reason why it was bought more is cuz its the cheapest of the 3 big consoles which is true is it not? see nintendo did theirs the smartest of them all. sell the wii for less cash have many accessories to cover the money we lost but jack up the price on accessories. then have ds cover cost of console and its paying off big time. sells dont make a system better imo.
i completely agree with everything you said. i've owned all 3 systems and bought most of the accessories for all three systems, and I've got to say they all basically = the same $$$ after getting everything minus the games. for fun household/drunk multiplayer games i'd go for Wii. for shooters and sports games i go with 360. and for the rest i go with PS3. currently i don't have any of them since i just don't have the time to play, but if i ever get a chance to pick one up again, i'd definitely go for the PS3.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 27, 2008, 06:50:59 AM
Ok not to start any arguments i will answer you questions i a mature way. One i don't own any of them as of now but i have freinds that i play with regulary becasue were into tournaments and such. The reason the entire planet as you say knows or has a 360 is becasue microsoft was smart to release their system a year before ps3 so we all know that if that is the latest system out durnig that time everyone will buy it. Now i don't know if you go to tournaments or not major ones i mean and alot of game events major ones or watch them but 90% of gamers that play seriously for competition say over all that the ps3 controller is better in feel and layout. Now to answer you hadcore gamer question there are alot of hardcore games for ps3 for example- Guilty gear (GG), SC3 or SC4, Tekken dr, SF 3rd stike, MvsC2, and all those Snk games and such. Now shooter wise no but in torunaments were all hardcore gamers go you will not see a 360 unless it is a shooting game that we all know as halo and a fighting game called DOA. Now i don't know what you do or watch but if you do watch and attend these events like E3, EVO, Final Round, G4tv then you will know that what i am saying is true becasue even at e3 this year microsoft stressed that their system is aimed toward casuals and Sony stressted that their system is aimed at hardcore gamers. Now if anoyne out there on this site is a gamer and knows alot of info like i do you will know that i am not wrong becasue i am the guy that goes by the overall thing and facts so to not lead this into an argument everyone has their opinion on things but i assure you i am not saying this to be correct but to show you that i know what i am talking about and what is going on in the gaming community.Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
One statement You said is totally incorrect . Everyone has a 360 because it came out before the PS3 . Sega Dreamcast came out before PS2 , but yet everyone bought PS2 & it obviously won the battle . Everyone has a 360 because it is a better system .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
its time to educate you my friend. what he said is true. the only reason the 360 has a lead is because it came out sooner. the ps3 outsold the 360 last year and it has outsold it this year so far. the 360 lead is only in the US, and the ps3 has won 5 out 7 months that we have data for. here are npd results for the month of july.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19856 (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19856)
Nintendo DS - 608.4K
Wii - 555K
PlayStation 3 - 224.9K
PlayStation Portable - 221.7K
Xbox 360 - 204.8K
Playstation 2 - 155.5K
as you can see the ps3 beat in sales. even with the $300 pro in mid july the $400 dollar and $500 dollar blu ray beat the 360 in sales.
here are june's numbers, it came in dead last. it sold less than the psp. and the ps3 outsold it almost by 2 times
http://pspupdates.qj.net/NPD-Group-releases-June-2008-results/pg/49/aid/122308 (http://pspupdates.qj.net/NPD-Group-releases-June-2008-results/pg/49/aid/122308)
* Nintendo DS- 783,000
* Wii- 666,700
* PlayStation 3 - 405,500
* PSP - 337,400
* Xbox 360 - 219,800
the 360 lead is gone in europe and the 360 is behind in japan. here are japans last week sales.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/japanese-xbox-360-sales-fall-back-to-earth/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/japanese-xbox-360-sales-fall-back-to-earth/)
DS Lite 78,666
PSP 64,413
Wii 53,036
PS3 11,393
PS2 10,168
Xbox 360 7,358
Sony fanboys :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie That funniest thing .
If anything by the statement donald is making , I would want to be the one to say PS3 is the greatest because I bought it the day it came out for $600 . I actually camped out for the system for 3 days . donald's theory " because that's what you have , you want to make it sound better " That just doesn't fly with me . I would want to jusyify it more than anyone else . But I can't , it's the worst thing I've ever spent money on & regret it to this day . I have all 3 systems & the PS3 sits in the box . I am not a Sony hater , I loved the PS2 & the PS1 . PS3 is just garbage right now .
The theory that the 360 came out first still doesn't fly . I know alot of people who seen the PS3 & that's when they bought there 360 . People had the choice to buy either at the time & bought the 360 .
Now as for the numbers , yeah sony definately has the edge in Japan . Japanese hate on Microsoft . That's just the way it is . They love Nintendo & Sony . Sony's figures are very padded because alot of PS3's actually sold because they are blue ray players . I know people that aren't even gamers that bought a PS3 just to have a cheap blue ray player . Too bad cheap is what it is . The final outcome of there decision will probably be bad . Because in the end that cheap tawain blue ray drive inside that thing will die & it will be money wasted . But by then Blue Ray players will be $100 anyway . I would never watch movies on a sony game system . Talk about a drive killer . They have been putting cheap drives/parts in their systems since PS1 & still haven't learned . Because of greed they want to make more money & don't care if the thing dies later on . At least Microsoft buys real drives for their system . Xbox's & 360's have had Hitachi , Samsung & Phillips in them . Nintendo even learned from Sony's mistakes . The Wii I'm pretty sure has a hitachi drive in it .
Bottom line is I am a fan boy of no company . the fan boys are usually guys that can only afford one & are forced to make a choice . I buy them all & but , play what I like . I have choice . The PS3 sits with the forgotten systems of the past in my house , right next to the 3DO . Both are pretty bad systems in my opinion . Hell , I actually played something on the 3DO last week , but didn't fire up the PS3 at all .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: shinrahunter on August 27, 2008, 10:15:06 AM
I think they're both good (360 & ps3) but I'm torn... the 360 has peaked and the ps3 is plowing on planning it's next (slow) move forward step by step. It has the potential to be a truely great machine, Sony just need to pull their fingers out and prove the ps3 worthy of the ps title.
Post by: dennis872005 on August 27, 2008, 11:54:08 AM
Ok not to start any arguments i will answer you questions i a mature way. One i don't own any of them as of now but i have freinds that i play with regulary becasue were into tournaments and such. The reason the entire planet as you say knows or has a 360 is becasue microsoft was smart to release their system a year before ps3 so we all know that if that is the latest system out durnig that time everyone will buy it. Now i don't know if you go to tournaments or not major ones i mean and alot of game events major ones or watch them but 90% of gamers that play seriously for competition say over all that the ps3 controller is better in feel and layout. Now to answer you hadcore gamer question there are alot of hardcore games for ps3 for example- Guilty gear (GG), SC3 or SC4, Tekken dr, SF 3rd stike, MvsC2, and all those Snk games and such. Now shooter wise no but in torunaments were all hardcore gamers go you will not see a 360 unless it is a shooting game that we all know as halo and a fighting game called DOA. Now i don't know what you do or watch but if you do watch and attend these events like E3, EVO, Final Round, G4tv then you will know that what i am saying is true becasue even at e3 this year microsoft stressed that their system is aimed toward casuals and Sony stressted that their system is aimed at hardcore gamers. Now if anoyne out there on this site is a gamer and knows alot of info like i do you will know that i am not wrong becasue i am the guy that goes by the overall thing and facts so to not lead this into an argument everyone has their opinion on things but i assure you i am not saying this to be correct but to show you that i know what i am talking about and what is going on in the gaming community.Ummm not i didn't becasue all hardcore gamers know especially fighters know that the ps3 controller is much better then the 360 controller and majority of harcore gamers on 360 are shooters then some fighters(DOA,SC4) and the reason i said hardcore for ps3 is becasue if you go into most stores where they sell ps3 and 360's, 360 or bought more becasue it is cheaper while ps3 is more expensive so only the reall hardcore ppl will pay for that no mothers with kids or children unless it was a b-day present plus it is a fact that more causals are on 360 then ps3 they even say that at e3 and major events and even sony says we focus on hardcore more then casuals. ;)All i can say to make everyone's choice easier on to what to pick is this
Ps3- for hardcore players
xbox 360- casuals and shooters
wii- family
That is all ;)
You got PS3 and 360 mixed up, 360 is for hardcore gamers but thats not the reason why i have it
No offence... but do you even own both or even one of them, 360 is bought becuase it has better games the entire planet knows that, 360s controller is better than ps3 controller you need to have one to know that and wtf you mean ps3 is for hardcore gamers?? tell me a hardcore game in ps3..? and btw i dont like the term hardcore here i just think 360 is more of gaming console than ps3 but i would rather prefer a ps3 over it
One statement You said is totally incorrect . Everyone has a 360 because it came out before the PS3 . Sega Dreamcast came out before PS2 , but yet everyone bought PS2 & it obviously won the battle . Everyone has a 360 because it is a better system .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
its time to educate you my friend. what he said is true. the only reason the 360 has a lead is because it came out sooner. the ps3 outsold the 360 last year and it has outsold it this year so far. the 360 lead is only in the US, and the ps3 has won 5 out 7 months that we have data for. here are npd results for the month of july.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19856 (http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19856)
Nintendo DS - 608.4K
Wii - 555K
PlayStation 3 - 224.9K
PlayStation Portable - 221.7K
Xbox 360 - 204.8K
Playstation 2 - 155.5K
as you can see the ps3 beat in sales. even with the $300 pro in mid july the $400 dollar and $500 dollar blu ray beat the 360 in sales.
here are june's numbers, it came in dead last. it sold less than the psp. and the ps3 outsold it almost by 2 times
http://pspupdates.qj.net/NPD-Group-releases-June-2008-results/pg/49/aid/122308 (http://pspupdates.qj.net/NPD-Group-releases-June-2008-results/pg/49/aid/122308)
* Nintendo DS- 783,000
* Wii- 666,700
* PlayStation 3 - 405,500
* PSP - 337,400
* Xbox 360 - 219,800
the 360 lead is gone in europe and the 360 is behind in japan. here are japans last week sales.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/japanese-xbox-360-sales-fall-back-to-earth/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/japanese-xbox-360-sales-fall-back-to-earth/)
DS Lite 78,666
PSP 64,413
Wii 53,036
PS3 11,393
PS2 10,168
Xbox 360 7,358
Sony fanboys :DxDie :DxDie :DxDie That funniest thing .
If anything by the statement donald is making , I would want to be the one to say PS3 is the greatest because I bought it the day it came out for $600 . I actually camped out for the system for 3 days . donald's theory " because that's what you have , you want to make it sound better " That just doesn't fly with me . I would want to jusyify it more than anyone else . But I can't , it's the worst thing I've ever spent money on & regret it to this day . I have all 3 systems & the PS3 sits in the box . I am not a Sony hater , I loved the PS2 & the PS1 . PS3 is just garbage right now .
The theory that the 360 came out first still doesn't fly . I know alot of people who seen the PS3 & that's when they bought there 360 . People had the choice to buy either at the time & bought the 360 .
Now as for the numbers , yeah sony definately has the edge in Japan . Japanese hate on Microsoft . That's just the way it is . They love Nintendo & Sony . Sony's figures are very padded because alot of PS3's actually sold because they are blue ray players . I know people that aren't even gamers that bought a PS3 just to have a cheap blue ray player . Too bad cheap is what it is . The final outcome of there decision will probably be bad . Because in the end that cheap tawain blue ray drive inside that thing will die & it will be money wasted . But by then Blue Ray players will be $100 anyway . I would never watch movies on a sony game system . Talk about a drive killer . They have been putting cheap drives/parts in their systems since PS1 & still haven't learned . Because of greed they want to make more money & don't care if the thing dies later on . At least Microsoft buys real drives for their system . Xbox's & 360's have had Hitachi , Samsung & Phillips in them . Nintendo even learned from Sony's mistakes . The Wii I'm pretty sure has a hitachi drive in it .
Bottom line is I am a fan boy of no company . the fan boys are usually guys that can only afford one & are forced to make a choice . I buy them all & but , play what I like . I have choice . The PS3 sits with the forgotten systems of the past in my house , right next to the 3DO . Both are pretty bad systems in my opinion . Hell , I actually played something on the 3DO last week , but didn't fire up the PS3 at all .
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look in the mirror darktaliban. I am not the one saying that the 360 is crap and the ps3 is the better in every way. I actually said the 360 has better games than the ps3. I was trying to show you that right now it seems the only reason the 360 is ahead is because it was released sooner. so far the ps3 has beaten in sales everywhere. you just talk but have no sources to back it up. plus you are a pretty ignorant fanboy with statements like these.
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The theory that the 360 came out first still doesn't fly . I know alot of people who seen the PS3 & that's when they bought there 360 . People had the choice to buy either at the time & bought the 360 .
anectodal evidence should never be used in an argument unless you can prove it. Guess what I saw someone who was buying a 360 but then saw the ps3 and threw the 360 out of the store and bought the ps3.
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Because in the end that cheap tawain blue ray drive inside that thing will die & it will be money wasted .
the ps3 is the best blu ray player on the market for 500 dollars.
http://kotaku.com/340668/ps3-is-still-the-blu+ray-player-to-buy (http://kotaku.com/340668/ps3-is-still-the-blu+ray-player-to-buy)
http://gizmodo.com/370116/coming-blu+ray-20-update-makes-ps3-best-player-ever (http://gizmodo.com/370116/coming-blu+ray-20-update-makes-ps3-best-player-ever)
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I would never watch movies on a sony game system . Talk about a drive killer . They have been putting cheap drives/parts in their systems since PS1 & still haven't learned . Because of greed they want to make more money & don't care if the thing dies later on . At least Microsoft buys real drives for their system . Xbox's & 360's have had Hitachi , Samsung & Phillips in them . Nintendo even learned from Sony's mistakes . The Wii I'm pretty sure has a hitachi drive in it .
Holy crap are you serious? the ps3 has around a 1 or 2 percent failure rate. the 360 on the other hand well I am sure you have heard about rrod. I have had 3 360's die on me. the failure rate on the 360's is just plain wrong.
Failure Rate: Xbox 360 High As 33% - Sony PS3 & Nintendo Wii Less Than 1%
http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/ (http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/)
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Because of greed they want to make more money & don't care if the thing dies later on .lol
hilarious when the 360 has the highest rate of failure.
also who charges for online play? who charges for gamerpics and themes? which console does not come with wi-fi and if you want to have it its going to cost you 100 dollar? who charges for music videos? which console comes with controller that don't have rechargable batteries? MS charges for a crap load of things.
if you are gonna argue about what console is better please have sources to back up what you are saying. I just disproved your whole argument.
Post by: Akeme on August 27, 2008, 01:22:50 PM
Post by: xPreatorianx on August 27, 2008, 01:26:46 PM
Post by: dennis872005 on August 27, 2008, 01:35:41 PM
Well i atleast i know i am not the only who knows what is really going on in the gaming industry plus thank you Dennis for showing that i wasn't talking rubbish ;)
your welcome. darktaliban is just talking but not backing it up in any ways and he makes really uniformed statements.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 27, 2008, 02:00:48 PM
As for the rrod ? It has to do with the solder heating up & cracking . Nothing to do with Cheap parts like Sony uses . Microsoft covers the repair under warranty . The PS3 hasn't been out long anough to fail & most people's sit there like mine does , so of course they won't die . Give it time , though . When Metal Gear came out & the system was being played , more situations of the yellow light of death started to come up . Sony did a really stupid move . Putting the power brick inside the system . The brick converts the voltage down . How is that extra voltage transferred ? As heat & it's inside the system . Watch the failure rate of the PS3 pick up when people start playing it more .
You got your little links that say PS3 is the best blue ray player for 500 ? Look around you can find many sites that say the PS3 components are junk .
I'm not going to search the net to find proof , because I have better things to do with my life . Plus I'm living through it . I've probably had every system that came out within the past ten years apart . I know what's inside each .
Like I said I'm done with this converstion because I see what it's escalating into . Why do I even care about what the Sony fanboy's say ? I have all the systems since release day for the most part . I have my choice to play whatever one I want . Unfortunately the PS3 was just a waste of money for me . I'm more likely to hook up a Colecovision within the next few months before I hook that thing up .
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Post by: dennis872005 on August 27, 2008, 02:10:49 PM
OK I am done with this discussion . Already things are being thrown around like " ignorant fanboy . " Not once was I calling anyone any names . Besides , If I was an ignorant fanboy I would be die hard Sony because I was all about the PS2 & PS1 . Even though they both had cheap tawain drives in them that died after time depending on how much use they had .
As for the rrod ? It has to do with the solder heating up & cracking . Nothing to do with Cheap parts like Sony uses . Microsoft covers the repair under warranty . The PS3 hasn't been out long anough to fail & most people's sit there like mine does , so of course they won't die . Give it time , though . When Metal Gear came out & the system was being played , more situations of the yellow light of death started to come up . Sony did a really stupid move . Putting the power brick inside the system . The brick converts the voltage down . How is that extra voltage transferred ? As heat & it's inside the system . Watch the failure rate of the PS3 pick up when people start playing it more .
You got your little links that say PS3 is the best blue ray player for 500 ? Look around you can find many sites that say the PS3 components are junk .
I'm not going to search the net to find proof , because I have better things to do with my life . Plus I'm living through it . I've probably had every system that came out within the past ten years apart . I know what's inside each .
Like I said I'm done with this converstion because I see what it's escalating into . Why do I even care about what the Sony fanboy's say ? I have all the systems since release day for the most part . I have my choice to play whatever one I want . Unfortunately the PS3 was just a waste of money for me . I'm more likely to hook up a Colecovision within the next few months before I hook that thing up .
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yeah calling me a sony fanboy is not name calling. again nothing to back up your claims. you are a fanboy of not backing up your claims and making ridicolous statements. I hope this is not how you argue in real life.
Post by: Akeme on August 27, 2008, 02:17:48 PM
Post by: dennis872005 on August 27, 2008, 02:22:18 PM
Btw just wanted to say i am not mad or angry at anyone on here i was just posting my opinion ;)
neither am I. I am just backing up what I say. oh and I leave you guys with the definiton of fanboy.
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A pathetic insult often used by fanboys themselves to try and put down people who don't like whatever it is they like.
notice who called who fanboy first. with his oh sony fanboys comment.
Post by: Gaijin on August 27, 2008, 02:27:14 PM
donaldb22 The one thing I have to say about your arguement on whether a game made on ps3 and xbox360 is better on the 360 or not is check www.gametrailers.com (http://www.gametrailers.com) Watch the comparison videos for some of the games. Notice how watered down the ps3 version is on some of the games? My point exactly. But I still will be getting a PS3 around October because of games like Heavenly sword,MGS4,GOW3. So please if you wanna disprove this back it up. Ive seen atleast 5 videos (cant get them right now because Gametrailers videos wont play on my comp) but just search for them, they are there.thats why i mentioned games like madden...madden can never be watered down on either console (ps3 and 360) cuz the gameplay is the same. others maybe u see the difference but its not like is EPIC unless we are talking scIV microsoft cheating and getting vader too. u cant please everyone with the ps3. if ppl hate the ps3 so much why do they buy one. isnt that kinda of silly. thats not directed at u darkgargos cuz u said right now its garbage and i respect your opinion on that. if u really dont play it then sell it to someone who will put it to use.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 27, 2008, 02:40:23 PM
Now I am really done with this convo .
Nuff said !
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Post by: DMP on August 27, 2008, 03:04:14 PM
Post by: Gaijin on August 27, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
Post by: dennis872005 on August 27, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
The word fanboy is not anything to be offended by . If you are that thin skinned , that the word fanboy bothered you ? I don't know what to say . But when you start throwing around the word ignorant in there , that's when it gets offensive . Pretty much shows how ignorant you are . :thumbsup:
Now I am really done with this convo .
Nuff said !
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all the statements or most of them were untrue and you actual believe them. that is called being ignorant, not knowing better.
ignorant:lacking knowledge of a specific field
you are ignorant because you don't know the console war and what you are talking about.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 27, 2008, 07:47:44 PM
The word fanboy is not anything to be offended by . If you are that thin skinned , that the word fanboy bothered you ? I don't know what to say . But when you start throwing around the word ignorant in there , that's when it gets offensive . Pretty much shows how ignorant you are . :thumbsup:
Now I am really done with this convo .
Nuff said !
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all the statements or most of them were untrue and you actual believe them. that is called being ignorant, not knowing better.
ignorant:lacking knowledge of a specific field
you are ignorant because you don't know the console war and what you are talking about.
:-@ L-)
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Post by: ClubSyN-X-TReME on August 28, 2008, 12:10:38 AM
Just be glad something like this exist in our lives that we can enjoy no matter what it is and who made it.
Like mugen, Video games are meant to be enjoyed, not fight over.
Post by: Akeme on August 28, 2008, 12:27:36 AM
Console wars are #&*($@!~ stupid.Agreed ;)
Just be glad something like this exist in our lives that we can enjoy no matter what it is and who made it.
Like mugen, Video games are meant to be enjoyed, not fight over.
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on August 28, 2008, 08:24:23 PM
Post by: Tundra on August 28, 2008, 08:30:39 PM
double agreedConsole wars are #&*($@!~ stupid.Agreed ;)
Just be glad something like this exist in our lives that we can enjoy no matter what it is and who made it.
Like mugen, Video games are meant to be enjoyed, not fight over.
Post by: dennis872005 on August 29, 2008, 01:26:43 AM
The word fanboy is not anything to be offended by . If you are that thin skinned , that the word fanboy bothered you ? I don't know what to say . But when you start throwing around the word ignorant in there , that's when it gets offensive . Pretty much shows how ignorant you are . :thumbsup:
Now I am really done with this convo .
Nuff said !
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all the statements or most of them were untrue and you actual believe them. that is called being ignorant, not knowing better.
ignorant:lacking knowledge of a specific field
you are ignorant because you don't know the console war and what you are talking about.
:-@ L-)
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haha, how old are you? guess I should not argue with a child since they don't know how to debate.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on August 29, 2008, 08:59:47 AM
The word fanboy is not anything to be offended by . If you are that thin skinned , that the word fanboy bothered you ? I don't know what to say . But when you start throwing around the word ignorant in there , that's when it gets offensive . Pretty much shows how ignorant you are . :thumbsup:
Now I am really done with this convo .
Nuff said !
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all the statements or most of them were untrue and you actual believe them. that is called being ignorant, not knowing better.
ignorant:lacking knowledge of a specific field
you are ignorant because you don't know the console war and what you are talking about.
:-@ L-)
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haha, how old are you? guess I should not argue with a child since they don't know how to debate.
:-@ L-)
My point was to drop it because there is no good outcome to this , I see where it's leading .
Childish ? Um , no . I just have better things to do in my life than argue with someone on the internet about pointless things .
I think The Immortal Syn summed it up the best . Go back & read his post .
nuff said !
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Post by: thefisherkings on August 29, 2008, 11:12:41 AM