Post by: KPT25 on July 17, 2008, 01:42:53 PM
Once it´s out,post you comments here so other ppl who has doubts on watching it can decide(i know after batman begins,this one looks awesome)
But looking at the reviews,Heath Ledger did his best role of his career... =D>
::fight:: (put the smiley as it has batman on it...:D)
Post by: Jason Todd on July 17, 2008, 01:58:43 PM
Post by: BA$ on July 17, 2008, 02:01:46 PM
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 17, 2008, 02:30:58 PM
Some critics say. it does! :w00t:
Post by: BA$ on July 17, 2008, 02:31:34 PM
Could this movie have a chance for Academy Award for Best Picture??also an oscar for heath ledger
Some critics say. it does! :w00t:
Post by: Jason Todd on July 17, 2008, 02:42:39 PM
Post by: KPT25 on July 17, 2008, 02:48:22 PM
That could be possible...i don´t remember if one of Burton´s Batman Movies were nominated for oscar academy awards...I was thinking the same thing after i heard about heath "winning" a postume oscarCould this movie have a chance for Academy Award for Best Picture??also an oscar for heath ledger
Some critics say. it does! :w00t:
Post by: thefisherkings on July 17, 2008, 02:57:26 PM
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 17, 2008, 02:58:43 PM
R.I.P.
Heath Ledger
April 4, 1979 – January 22, 2008
"The most Iconic Joker I've ever seen."
-Christopher Nolan
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 17, 2008, 03:09:58 PM
(http://www.empireonline.com/images/trailer/breakdown/darkknight/2.jpg)
So we got Joker, Two Face AND Scarecrow. 8-}
Post by: BA$ on July 17, 2008, 03:40:50 PM
I JUST now noticed this.u never noticed that before, i knew he wuz in the movie ever since i heard about it and also list right here http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000186/ (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000186/)
(http://www.empireonline.com/images/trailer/breakdown/darkknight/2.jpg)
So we got Joker, Two Face AND Scarecrow. 8-}
probably scarecrow is a minor villian ?
let's hope he's still on the movie most of the time cuz there's barley of two/face and scarecrow in the trailer
Post by: Alexziq on July 17, 2008, 04:12:29 PM
Post by: Alexziq on July 17, 2008, 04:14:54 PM
Could this movie have a chance for Academy Award for Best Picture??
Some critics say. it does! :w00t:
Ive heard all the Oscar talks for Heath, and the Movie are fan fabrications. The Oscar comittee are abunch of old stiffs with no taste, only willing to nominate films the the friggen Piano.
Post by: KPT25 on July 17, 2008, 07:45:49 PM
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 17, 2008, 09:01:06 PM
I KNEW IT!!! ~X(Could this movie have a chance for Academy Award for Best Picture??The Oscar comittee are abunch of old stiffs with no taste,
Some critics say. it does! :w00t:
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 18, 2008, 07:16:54 AM
A little disappointing on the Two-Face side but oh well, can't have everything go perfect.
Definite must see though and all the hype for it was well deserved. This film will most surely win awards and break records. :thumbsup:
Post by: Captain Cold on July 18, 2008, 07:28:23 AM
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 18, 2008, 07:36:07 AM
thanks for the heads up I know i can trust your opinion now ill def have to see it is it as violent as they say it is? it so thats good :)There were A LOT of killings in the film. Now that I think about it though, no real blood from what I saw. Definitely don't notice it though.
Oh, and you guys will love the hospital scene with Joker. :D Just too good of a movie and not a single scene was boring in any way to me.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 18, 2008, 07:54:23 PM
thanks for the heads up I know i can trust your opinion now ill def have to see it is it as violent as they say it is? it so thats good :)There were A LOT of killings in the film. Now that I think about it though, no real blood from what I saw. Definitely don't notice it though.
Oh, and you guys will love the hospital scene with Joker. :D Just too good of a movie and not a single scene was boring in any way to me.
This is one of my favorite movies.
Speaking of killings, the part where the one guy is just standing in front of a window for like 2 seconds, and then you see a hanged corpse drop, that nearly gave me a heart attack. I was expecting it just to go off to the next scene. :D
Joker really blew the hell out of Gotham City in this movie.
Post by: The Notic on July 18, 2008, 07:58:35 PM
thanks for the heads up I know i can trust your opinion now ill def have to see it is it as violent as they say it is? it so thats good :)There were A LOT of killings in the film. Now that I think about it though, no real blood from what I saw. Definitely don't notice it though.
Oh, and you guys will love the hospital scene with Joker. :D Just too good of a movie and not a single scene was boring in any way to me.
This is one of my favorite movies.
Speaking of killings, the part where the one guy is just standing in front of a window for like 2 seconds, and then you see a hanged corpse drop, that nearly gave me a heart attack. I was expecting it just to go off to the next scene. :D
Joker really blew the hell out of Gotham City in this movie.
Wow, all this packed into a Pg-13 movie, I gotta see this!
Post by: Epic Win Man on July 18, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
Heath ledger really stole the show on this one, his acting made the movie
Bale was still great, and I personally really liked what they did with Dent
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 18, 2008, 10:15:04 PM
this movie was...AMAZINGI agree with everything, except Dent was great, but I personally don't like where the story ended with him. The ending all together was awesome though.
Heath ledger really stole the show on this one, his acting made the movie
Bale was still great, and I personally really liked what they did with Dent
Post by: BA$ on July 18, 2008, 10:18:28 PM
two face wuz kinda disapointing but still good, the action scenes were totally cool.
also some resemblence to the original batman with batman and joker.
it wuz such an epic comic book movie for a sequel and should get an oscar for heath ledger, and the end wuz good cuz batman went back to becomes (WARNING SPOILERS) an illegal vigilante cuz batman would not show his real identity and told commissioner gorden batman took the blame for dent's murders, then destroys the bat signal (nnooooooooooo) and says he's a DARK KNIGHT !!!!!! THEN ENDS
sequel ?
Post by: Darkmanx_429 on July 18, 2008, 11:40:12 PM
Post by: ATiC3 on July 19, 2008, 01:12:41 AM
Post by: Cyclysm on July 19, 2008, 01:51:06 AM
The Joker was Insane......and Dent's face was so nasty.... it was awesome.. as usual Bale's performance was also fantastic.
My only gripe Would be Maggie Gyllenhaal......she's just so ugly........when Joker said she was beautiful.......I thought...now I know why they call him the joker
One of the best films of 2008
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 19, 2008, 02:46:08 AM
The film was amazing..... the best Batman film....so far IMOGuess we differ on that view then, 'cause Maggie's actually really pretty to me. :-?? She has some cat-like features, and that's somehow attractive. Is that wrong.? =O.o=
The Joker was Insane......and Dent's face was so nasty.... it was awesome.. as usual Bale's performance was also fantastic.
My only gripe Would be Maggie Gyllenhaal......she's just so ugly........when Joker said she was beautiful.......I thought...now I know why they call him the joker
One of the best films of 2008
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on July 19, 2008, 02:51:44 AM
The film was amazing..... the best Batman film....so far IMOGuess we differ on that view then, 'cause Maggie's actually really pretty to me. :-?? She has some cat-like features, and that's somehow attractive. Is that wrong.? =O.o=
The Joker was Insane......and Dent's face was so nasty.... it was awesome.. as usual Bale's performance was also fantastic.
My only gripe Would be Maggie Gyllenhaal......she's just so ugly........when Joker said she was beautiful.......I thought...now I know why they call him the joker
One of the best films of 2008
You're not alone. I think she's really pretty too.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 19, 2008, 03:09:13 AM
I think this movie should have a video game. I'm surprised that there is no video game announced... I'm sure Ledger's relatives wouldn't mind having Ledger's voice in the video game. What do you all say?I know. The last movie had a video game, I thought this might be the perfect time for some company to make a perfect Batman game. If they made a Batman game like the new Spiderman games, do you realize how cool that would be? Being able to use the grapplehook, batmobiles, and so many other features. Well I guess Batman fans will never see that game come to reality...
As for the movie, it's one of the best movies ever made.
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on July 19, 2008, 07:40:32 AM
thanks for the heads up I know i can trust your opinion now ill def have to see it is it as violent as they say it is? it so thats good :)There were A LOT of killings in the film. Now that I think about it though, no real blood from what I saw. Definitely don't notice it though.
Oh, and you guys will love the hospital scene with Joker. :D Just too good of a movie and not a single scene was boring in any way to me.
This is one of my favorite movies.
Speaking of killings, the part where the one guy is just standing in front of a window for like 2 seconds, and then you see a hanged corpse drop, that nearly gave me a heart attack. I was expecting it just to go off to the next scene. :D
Joker really blew the hell out of Gotham City in this movie.
Wow, all this packed into a Pg-13 movie, I gotta see this!
lol i was thinkin the same thing and i remember seein the preview of dark knight when i went to see hancock just the joker made me want to see that movie i could tell that he was cool especially da part wheres hes shootin da machine gun in the street i was like dam i got to see this.
Post by: Darkmanx_429 on July 19, 2008, 07:55:51 PM
Post by: Sub-Zero on July 19, 2008, 08:56:05 PM
and im a MARvel head like IM the definition of a marvel head
but good lord
THE JOKER??! i didnt even know he was that crazy in the comic books
and that fckin smart
He knew everything they were going to do to stop him
my fav villian of all time now
the part where he slams the dudes head on apencil
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on July 19, 2008, 09:36:39 PM
BEST COMIC MOVIE EVER
and im a MARvel head like IM the definition of a marvel head
but good lord
THE JOKER??! i didnt even know he was that crazy in the comic books
and that fckin smart
He knew everything they were going to do to stop him
my fav villian of all time now
the part where he slams the dudes head on apencil
oh yea just watch some of the batman cartoons batman always had a hard time takin down joker hes to dam smart and crazy.
Post by: That Mugen Guy on July 19, 2008, 09:43:40 PM
BEST COMIC MOVIE EVER
and im a MARvel head like IM the definition of a marvel head
but good lord
THE JOKER??! i didnt even know he was that crazy in the comic books
and that fckin smart
He knew everything they were going to do to stop him
my fav villian of all time now
the part where he slams the dudes head on apencil
oh my lord he was f**king crazy in this movie man that part so so unexpected, another unexpected part was when he swung the batman impersonator into the window, man was that a good laugh cuz from where I was sitting I saw everyones head jump up lol i was the only person laughing at that part it was great :-j
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 20, 2008, 07:39:54 AM
Just came back a few hours ago from a midnight showing of it. Not gonna give away any spoilers, but Ledger as Joker was f*cking awesome. I can't stress it enough how bad @ss Joker was in the movie and just how insane he got. There were a few scenes that just left me in awe with him.How was two-face disappointing? They nailed everything down perfectly. He started out as Harvey Dent, who was a good guy. Then after the trauma and disfigurement of his face he literally and psychologically became two-faced. Unlike Batman Forever which was just some evil crime kingpin that wanted to kill Batman.
A little disappointing on the Two-Face side but oh well, can't have everything go perfect.
Definite must see though and all the hype for it was well deserved. This film will most surely win awards and break records. :thumbsup:
The Joker was done perfectly too. Just some insane bastard that wanted to see the world go to hell.
IMO everything was perfect in this film, and is one of the best movies ever made.
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 20, 2008, 08:01:23 AM
Harvey Dent, perfect. Two-Face, perfect. Since spoilers are being thrown around now, I'll just say it. The problem I had with it though, was how Two-Face died at the end when he had just became him. I think it got to me a bit (at the time, not anymore) 'cause there had been a lot of speculation/talk that he'd become Two-Face at the end of the film and pretty much lead as the main villain in the next one. Now, he won't even make an appearance in the next one. That aside though, It was really shocking to see him die at the end. The ending was damn perfect though, the choice Batman had to make. Perfect is the only way to describe this movie. :thumbsup:Just came back a few hours ago from a midnight showing of it. Not gonna give away any spoilers, but Ledger as Joker was f*cking awesome. I can't stress it enough how bad @ss Joker was in the movie and just how insane he got. There were a few scenes that just left me in awe with him.How was two-face disappointing? They nailed everything down perfectly. He started out as Harvey Dent, who was a good guy. Then after the trauma and disfigurement of his face he literally and psychologically became two-faced. Unlike Batman Forever which was just some evil crime kingpin that wanted to kill Batman.
A little disappointing on the Two-Face side but oh well, can't have everything go perfect.
Definite must see though and all the hype for it was well deserved. This film will most surely win awards and break records. :thumbsup:
The Joker was done perfectly too. Just some insane bastard that wanted to see the world go to hell.
IMO everything was perfect in this film, and is one of the best movies ever made.
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 20, 2008, 08:24:45 AM
I thought they just locked him up at arkham and covered up him turning into two-face by saying hes dead. All the criminals that got locked up would have been put back on the streets if Harvey did turn to the dark side after all. Not many people really knew what happened to him, and the police never confirmed that Harvey was still alive after the hospital blew up. People would have been shocked that Harvey Dent which was supposedly the hero of Gotham got corrupted by The Joker. Which also would have explained the poster of Harvey Dent without his burned face.Harvey Dent, perfect. Two-Face, perfect. Since spoilers are being thrown around now, I'll just say it. The problem I had with it though, was how Two-Face died at the end when he had just became him. I think it got to me a bit (at the time, not anymore) 'cause there had been a lot of speculation/talk that he'd become Two-Face at the end of the film and pretty much lead as the main villain in the next one. Now, he won't even make an appearance in the next one. That aside though, It was really shocking to see him die at the end. The ending was damn perfect though, the choice Batman had to make. Perfect is the only way to describe this movie. :thumbsup:Just came back a few hours ago from a midnight showing of it. Not gonna give away any spoilers, but Ledger as Joker was f*cking awesome. I can't stress it enough how bad @ss Joker was in the movie and just how insane he got. There were a few scenes that just left me in awe with him.How was two-face disappointing? They nailed everything down perfectly. He started out as Harvey Dent, who was a good guy. Then after the trauma and disfigurement of his face he literally and psychologically became two-faced. Unlike Batman Forever which was just some evil crime kingpin that wanted to kill Batman.
A little disappointing on the Two-Face side but oh well, can't have everything go perfect.
Definite must see though and all the hype for it was well deserved. This film will most surely win awards and break records. :thumbsup:
The Joker was done perfectly too. Just some insane bastard that wanted to see the world go to hell.
IMO everything was perfect in this film, and is one of the best movies ever made.
There's also been a ton of rumors that Aaron Eckhart signed up to do two films, instead of one.
Post by: shinra358 on July 20, 2008, 11:51:22 AM
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 20, 2008, 07:53:12 PM
I will neither confirm NOR Deny that I had "Man Tears" During the End of the movie. :D
I'm gonna cheat and copy and paste my review here to a Video Review.
Post by: KPT25 on July 20, 2008, 08:32:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs)
Thx to Randomdude for another winner ;)
ON TOPIC:I might go to the movies tomorrow and watch the movie...so i haven`t read this thread a lot to avoid many spoilers...
Is there an after credits scene on this one?or it´s a marvel thing?
Post by: tremainekr on July 21, 2008, 02:33:59 AM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 21, 2008, 02:39:44 AM
>:-(-| following the hype of the movie,look at this:\
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs)
Thx to Randomdude for another winner ;)
ON TOPIC:I might go to the movies tomorrow and watch the movie...so i haven`t read this thread a lot to avoid many spoilers...
Is there an after credits scene on this one?or it´s a marvel thing?
There's nothing after the credits.
Post by: thefisherkings on July 21, 2008, 09:43:08 AM
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 21, 2008, 10:09:13 AM
Every forum member, people at my work, and most of my friends went, but I'm still holding out for the dvd :|That sucks. Dark Knight is a movie that you can only get the full experience from watching it in the theaters.
Post by: That Mugen Guy on July 21, 2008, 10:36:58 AM
Every forum member, people at my work, and most of my friends went, but I'm still holding out for the dvd :|That sucks. Dark Knight is a movie that you can only get the full experience from watching it in the theaters.
hells yea those special effects where the bomb, but was it just me or was the theater u saw the movie in extra loud I swaer that was the loudest movie ive been to and ive been to alot :-??
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 21, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
Every forum member, people at my work, and most of my friends went, but I'm still holding out for the dvd :|That sucks. Dark Knight is a movie that you can only get the full experience from watching it in the theaters.
hells yea those special effects where the bomb, but was it just me or was the theater u saw the movie in extra loud I swear that was the loudest movie ive been to and ive been to alot :-??
It wasn't just you. That movie just immerses you into the sound when your at the theaters. Especially the parts where you hear that ringing noise like something epic and bad@ss is about to happen.
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 21, 2008, 01:42:26 PM
KPT25 edit:plz no smiley spamming... :-w
Post by: That Mugen Guy on July 21, 2008, 01:54:11 PM
Post by: BA$ on July 21, 2008, 01:57:43 PM
XD||damn
why did u just do that L-)
Every forum member, people at my work, and most of my friends went, but I'm still holding out for the dvd :|That sucks. Dark Knight is a movie that you can only get the full experience from watching it in the theaters.
Post by: KPT25 on July 21, 2008, 04:31:15 PM
Heath totally outclassed everyone else in the movie...i knew that guy was up for his moment of glory sooner or later
The plot twists were greatly done,there were surprises arround every corner and the sonar-vision was simply outstanding
Post by: Alexziq on July 23, 2008, 11:43:27 PM
Post by: MaverickZr0 on July 24, 2008, 12:12:16 AM
Post by: George Costanza on July 24, 2008, 12:43:27 AM
joker was incredible ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 24, 2008, 03:19:12 AM
Bale was a horrible actor the movie overall was good ;D
If you dont mind me asking wat was wrong with Bale?? My only complaint was him doing that Weird Voice when he's in the batsuit but that was it, he's Now THE Batman. /:O
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 24, 2008, 04:27:49 AM
Hoenstly, I don't even mind the voice. I do mind the other versions of Batman that don't have that voice though.Bale was a horrible actor the movie overall was good ;D
If you dont mind me asking wat was wrong with Bale?? My only complaint was him doing that Weird Voice when he's in the batsuit but that was it, he's Now THE Batman. /:O
Post by: George Costanza on July 24, 2008, 07:12:10 AM
Bale was a horrible actor the movie overall was good ;D
If you dont mind me asking wat was wrong with Bale?? My only complaint was him doing that Weird Voice when he's in the batsuit but that was it, he's Now THE Batman. /:O
he showed no emotion in everything he did like when he fought looked mad stiff and when he fought it didnt look right when he was mad u didnt really feel for him i could not really sympathize for him
every one in the movie said something deep and memorable to me
"The only justice in an unfair world is chance. " - Harvey Dent
"I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger." The Joker
bat mansaid nothing that i can remember
Post by: Alexziq on July 24, 2008, 07:56:16 AM
Bale was a horrible actor the movie overall was good ;D
If you dont mind me asking wat was wrong with Bale?? My only complaint was him doing that Weird Voice when he's in the batsuit but that was it, he's Now THE Batman. /:O
he showed no emotion in everything he did like when he fought looked mad stiff and when he fought it didnt look right when he was mad u didnt really feel for him i could not really sympathize for him
every one in the movie said something deep and memorable to me
"The only justice in an unfair world is chance. " - Harvey Dent
"I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger." The Joker
bat mansaid nothing that i can remember
Whatever 8=|
Post by: BA$ on July 24, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
Bale was a horrible actor the movie overall was good ;D
If you dont mind me asking wat was wrong with Bale?? My only complaint was him doing that Weird Voice when he's in the batsuit but that was it, he's Now THE Batman. /:O
he showed no emotion in everything he did like when he fought looked mad stiff and when he fought it didnt look right when he was mad u didnt really feel for him i could not really sympathize for him
every one in the movie said something deep and memorable to me
"The only justice in an unfair world is chance. " - Harvey Dent
"I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger." The Joker
bat mansaid nothing that i can remember
Whatever 8=|
Post by: George Costanza on July 24, 2008, 04:09:18 PM
Post by: Warcueid on July 24, 2008, 06:56:54 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on July 24, 2008, 07:05:34 PM
I thought it was excellent .
The villian I thought I would like , I hated & the villian I thought I would hate , I liked .
When I seen the shots of Two Face I thought I was going to hate him .
Two Face was awesome . They stuck to the character & he was played well .
I personally think Heath Ledger sucked as the Joker . I'm really glad he didn't have more lines in the movie . Because if he had anymore , that would have ruined it for me .
I had to watch Batman Beyond Return of the Joker right after watching this movie . Just to get this horrid Joker performance out of my head & remind me what a real Joker performance is .
Of course most of the fan boys are going to disagree with me since the guy that played him took his own life & is dead now .
This is the same case with everything .
Randy Rhodes = Greatest Guitarist ever in some peoples eyes
Cliff Burton = Greatest Bass player ever to some .
Tupac = greatest rapper
I hear it all the time . Did they have talent , yes . Greatest ever I think not . It's weird when people die they become the greatest ever .
Heath was a terrible Joker to me . If he didn't kill himself the fan boys would have probably said mediocre at best . But since he is dead ......
Greatest ever . I think not .
I personally believe if the guy was still alive the fan boys would not be saying " he was the greatest joker ever , no one could be a better joker "
Because he really wasn't . He didn't even have the " joker enthusiasm " in the role .
My opinion .
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 24, 2008, 07:31:41 PM
OK I finally found the time to watch this movie .
I personally think Heath Ledger sucked as the Joker . I'm really glad he didn't have more lines in the movie . Because if he had anymore , that would have ruined it for me .
I had to watch Batman Beyond Return of the Joker right after watching this movie . Just to get this horrid Joker performance out of my head & remind me what a real Joker performance is .
:|
Really? Elaborate.
Post by: Alexziq on July 24, 2008, 07:42:04 PM
Not to rain on everyones parade here, but, I agree with TommyxSpitsXblood. Bale did feel stiff at times. That doesn't mean the movie was horrible, in fact the movie was fantastic. I feel that they should stop the Dark Knight movies with this one. After seeing Ledgers' performance as The Joker, I think it would be pretty hard for them to live up to this movie. But hey, lets see what happens in the future...... I guess.
Since when is Batman a big talker :DxDie
Bale on his worst day owns any actor to put on the cowl. He portrayed a very green Batman, someone not used to any supervillan. He even dismisses Joker early on to go after Mob bosses.
No offense but a lot of gripers seem to know very little about Batman other than what theyve seen on toons. Not you persay, but I wonder how many people pro Ledger, or Bale gripers have actually read any Batman comics, or graphic novels. saying Batman is cold, and stiff is a compliment. Batman is that way, even his gruff persona is an act, not true anger, just a way of covering himself in front of those around him.
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on July 24, 2008, 07:55:47 PM
Since when is Batman a big talker :DxDieAgreed, that's spot on!! You Always know what to say!! :thumbsup:
No offense but a lot of gripers seem to know very little about Batman other than what theyve seen on toons. Not you persay, but I wonder how many people pro Ledger, or Bale gripers have actually read any Batman comics, or graphic novels. saying Batman is cold, and stiff is a compliment. Batman is that way, even his gruff persona is an act, not true anger, just a way of covering himself in front of those around him.
The only way to have a talkative Batman is to use Terry McGinnis. Batman...
Quote
"he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector... a DARK KNIGHT...."~Gary Oldman
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on July 24, 2008, 07:59:42 PM
No offense but a lot of gripers seem to know very little about Batman other than what theyve seen on toons. Not you persay, but I wonder how many people pro Ledger, or Bale gripers have actually read any Batman comics, or graphic novels. saying Batman is cold, and stiff is a compliment. Batman is that way, even his gruff persona is an act, not true anger, just a way of covering himself in front of those around him.
^^(PM)^
tl;dr Shut up you're not as into comics as I am so your opinion doesn't matter nor make any sense. :DxDie
Post by: Warcueid on July 24, 2008, 08:47:59 PM
Since when is Batman a big talker :DxDie
Perhaps I should of been more clear, I meant his performance as Bruce Wayne, while you do see him as a "playboy" in the movie. He shows little to no emotion than the previous movie. (that also might be because you see more Batman than Wayne.) But the reason I say his performance AS WAYNE was stiff is because of how he takes Rachels' death. He barely showed any emotion and while you KNOW he feels sad, he (Bale) doesn't depict it too well, IMO.
Bale on his worst day owns any actor to put on the cowl.He does play this Batman well, I agree. But hes a tie with Keaton in my opinion, seeing as how they portrayed two different Batman.(I'm not mentioning the other actors, cause, well.......they were horrible and any Batman movie after Batman Returns, with the exception of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, should be forgotten.)
No offense but a lot of gripers seem to know very little about Batman other than what theyve seen on toons. Not you persay, but I wonder how many people pro Ledger, or Bale gripers have actually read any Batman comics, or graphic novels. saying Batman is cold, and stiff is a compliment. Batman is that way, even his gruff persona is an act, not true anger, just a way of covering himself in front of those around him.Thats dandy and often true, and don't take this personally, but what you said makes you sound like:
Shut up you're not as into comics as I am so your opinion doesn't matter nor make any sense. :DxDieps: I know you didn't direct that "not a lot of people know about the comics,etc" at me, but I was trying to have some fun there. ;D
Post by: Alexziq on July 24, 2008, 09:54:56 PM
Batman doesnt deal with death well, he didnt let Jason Todds death influence his morals, in JLU's Death of Superman he refuses to go to the funeral. Recently when Martian Manhunter died in the comics he said nothing, just placed an Oreo Cookie in his coffin.
Nothing can slow the mission. Not Robins Death, not breaking up with a babe like catwoman, not the death of many friends, and lovers, thats just the Bat.
Sorry to geek out, but its the one thing I guess I'm a mega fan of. :)
Post by: shinra358 on July 24, 2008, 09:58:35 PM
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on July 24, 2008, 10:14:03 PM
yall know not to pay no mind to asian jesus considering he always wants to fight all the time.
That's what you think. :'(
Anyway, it wasnt meant to offend, or be directed toward you, just an outcry in general.
Batman doesnt deal with death well, he didnt let Jason Todds death influence his morals, in JLU's Death of Superman he refuses to go to the funeral. Recently when Martian Manhunter died in the comics he said nothing, just placed an Oreo Cookie in his coffin.
Nothing can slow the mission. Not Robins Death, not breaking up with a babe like catwoman, not the death of many friends, and lovers, thats just the Bat.
Sorry to geek out, but its the one thing I guess I'm a mega fan of. :)
Eh, it's okay. It happens to the best of us. For example, it happens to me and Gundam stuff. ;)
(and I think you're just jumping to conclusions because you probably just don't like me, shinra. It's okay. It's the internet. Oh, and LOLASSUMPTIONS.)
Post by: Warcueid on July 24, 2008, 10:34:54 PM
Anyway, it wasnt meant to offend, or be directed toward you, just an outcry in general.
Batman doesnt deal with death well, he didnt let Jason Todds death influence his morals, in JLU's Death of Superman he refuses to go to the funeral. Recently when Martian Manhunter died in the comics he said nothing, just placed an Oreo Cookie in his coffin.
Nothing can slow the mission. Not Robins Death, not breaking up with a babe like catwoman, not the death of many friends, and lovers, thats just the Bat.
Sorry to geek out, but its the one thing I guess I'm a mega fan of. :)
Don't sweat it, its cool :thumbsup: I'm glad that there are people out there keeping up with comics and enjoying, and basically keeping them alive. Everyone geeks out at something (we ARE on a forum dedicated to a game engine ;D).
Post by: I_Burner on July 24, 2008, 10:38:15 PM
Perhaps I should of been more clear, I meant his performance as Bruce Wayne, while you do see him as a "playboy" in the movie. He shows little to no emotion than the previous movie. (that also might be because you see more Batman than Wayne.) But the reason I say his performance AS WAYNE was stiff is because of how he takes Rachels' death. He barely showed any emotion and while you KNOW he feels sad, he (Bale) doesn't depict it too well, IMO.
Hmm. I actually took that scene as Bruce being too overwelmed to show much of anything. He failed Rachel, the one person he cared for most, and she never would have been in that kind of danger had he not become Batman. He was in shock.
And as ALEXZIQ pointed out, Bruce Wayne doesn't know how to handle death. Batman's cowl isn't the only mask he wears. Not everyone responds to the loss of a loved one with a huge outpouring of emotion, but rather they internalize it all. Just look at how he handled his parents' deaths (in the last movie at least)... he ran away, and never intended to return. Bruce hides his feelings, for far too many reasons to go into here. Personally, I thought that performance was very true to the character.
Also just wanted to give some props to the supporting cast that aren't getting as much attention in this thread. Oldman's performance finally brings Gordon to life. He's such a huge part of the Batman universe, yet he's always been trivialized on the big screen. Same goes for Michael Caine's Alfred - he's finally not being portrayed as the stodgy old butler who just seems to be going along with Bruce's plans like some sort of geriatric robot. This is an Alfred who believes in what Batman stands for, possibly even more than Bruce Wayne himself. We've seen good animated versions of these characters before, but it's great to see them getting the treatment they deserve from Hollywood.
Anyway....
This movie has got to be the best thing I've seen in the last 10 years. I've seen it twice so far, and I'm dying to go see it in IMAX!!! (Can't think of much of anything more bad@$$ than a 3-story tall Batman!) I have to keep waiting, though, since tickets for that here are STILL SOLD OUT \-/o
Post by: Warcueid on July 24, 2008, 11:05:11 PM
Hmm. I actually took that scene as Bruce being too overwelmed to show much of anything. He failed Rachel, the one person he cared for most, and she never would have been in that kind of danger had he not become Batman. He was in shock.Hmm. That is very interesting and is true to the character. But I can't help but ask myself, is what we saw during that seen Wayne or Batman? Like you said, he failed her, in his own sight......going offtopic. But I guess you're right, that was an accurate portrayal of both Batman and Wayne.As for the supporting cast, like you mentioned, Michael Caine plays a great Alfred. The writers really knew how to make Alfred more than just a butler and shows how he is part of the Wayne family.
And as ALEXZIQ pointed out, Bruce Wayne doesn't know how to handle death. Batman's cowl isn't the only mask he wears. Not everyone responds to the loss of a loved one with a huge outpouring of emotion, but rather they internalize it all. Just look at how he handled his parents' deaths (in the last movie at least)... he ran away, and never intended to return. Bruce hides his feelings, for far too many reasons to go into here. Personally, I thought that performance was very true to the character.
Yeah, I'm in the same sinking IMAX boat with you. But a friend told me that he could get me tickets for a show....heres to hoping that it happens.
Post by: George Costanza on July 25, 2008, 02:17:42 AM
Not to rain on everyones parade here, but, I agree with TommyxSpitsXblood. Bale did feel stiff at times. That doesn't mean the movie was horrible, in fact the movie was fantastic. I feel that they should stop the Dark Knight movies with this one. After seeing Ledgers' performance as The Joker, I think it would be pretty hard for them to live up to this movie. But hey, lets see what happens in the future...... I guess.
Since when is Batman a big talker :DxDie
Bale on his worst day owns any actor to put on the cowl. He portrayed a very green Batman, someone not used to any supervillan. He even dismisses Joker early on to go after Mob bosses.
No offense but a lot of gripers seem to know very little about Batman other than what theyve seen on toons. Not you persay, but I wonder how many people pro Ledger, or Bale gripers have actually read any Batman comics, or graphic novels. saying Batman is cold, and stiff is a compliment. Batman is that way, even his gruff persona is an act, not true anger, just a way of covering himself in front of those around him.
i ment him portraying the batman was crap sum 1 could have done a better job
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 25, 2008, 07:01:17 AM
Bale was a horrible actor the movie overall was good ;D
If you dont mind me asking wat was wrong with Bale?? My only complaint was him doing that Weird Voice when he's in the batsuit but that was it, he's Now THE Batman. /:O
he showed no emotion in everything he did like when he fought looked mad stiff and when he fought it didnt look right when he was mad u didnt really feel for him i could not really sympathize for him
every one in the movie said something deep and memorable to me
"The only justice in an unfair world is chance. " - Harvey Dent
"I believe whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... stranger." The Joker
bat mansaid nothing that i can remember
Ok. How did he show no emotion? Or were you out grabbing popcorn during the interrogation scene? He went flying off the walls in that scene.
Post by: Alexziq on July 25, 2008, 07:35:51 AM
Not to rain on everyones parade here, but, I agree with TommyxSpitsXblood. Bale did feel stiff at times. That doesn't mean the movie was horrible, in fact the movie was fantastic. I feel that they should stop the Dark Knight movies with this one. After seeing Ledgers' performance as The Joker, I think it would be pretty hard for them to live up to this movie. But hey, lets see what happens in the future...... I guess.
Since when is Batman a big talker :DxDie
Bale on his worst day owns any actor to put on the cowl. He portrayed a very green Batman, someone not used to any supervillan. He even dismisses Joker early on to go after Mob bosses.
No offense but a lot of gripers seem to know very little about Batman other than what theyve seen on toons. Not you persay, but I wonder how many people pro Ledger, or Bale gripers have actually read any Batman comics, or graphic novels. saying Batman is cold, and stiff is a compliment. Batman is that way, even his gruff persona is an act, not true anger, just a way of covering himself in front of those around him.
i ment him portraying the batman was sh*t sum 1 could have done a better job
No you couldnt, thats how Batman is, read a comic.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on July 25, 2008, 10:45:52 AM
Ledger as The Joker is wher I had the problem .
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Post by: b.easy on July 25, 2008, 11:03:13 AM
Bale as Batman was weird because he kept putting on his special "batman voice" that sounds like a poor impersonation of Solid Snake, i just wanted him to shut up.
Also, Two Face was a nice surprise, but I'm pretty sure that's not how someone looks when they get burned by diesel fuel. /:O
Post by: Alexziq on July 25, 2008, 11:24:17 AM
Saw this movie with a few friends yesterday, and they all said the Joker felt weird. They missed Jack Nicholson, one guy said "Man, at least he was having fun, strutting and stuff. That guy used to have a gun that didn't even shoot bullets, just "BANG" on a flag. Where's that stuff? This guy was just some kind of whiny killer."
Bale as Batman was weird because he kept putting on his special "batman voice" that sounds like a poor impersonation of Solid Snake, i just wanted him to shut up.
Also, Two Face was a nice surprise, but I'm pretty sure that's not how someone looks when they get burned by diesel fuel. /:O
I dont miss Jack at all. While ledger might not had enough Jack in the character, Jack certainly didnt have enough Ledger in his performance either.
Jacks portrayal is one all its own, its not really a great depiction of the Joker, just a good performance from a talented actor. I never really saw insanity in his performance, just Jacks personality.
I'm pretty happy with Ledgers Joker. It only captures one side of the character, but was well done for that side of the character.
I'm not really sure the Joker would be as sophisticated at the beginning of his career as he would be later on. I could easily see Joker going from the Ledger Joker to the Joker On "The Batman Cartoon" to the Mark Hamill Joker on the the Animated series, as a progression. I think everyone forgets that this is technically Batman year 2 in the movies.
As far as Bales Batman voice, thats just the way its supposed to be. This isnt Superfriends.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on July 25, 2008, 11:46:09 AM
Saw this movie with a few friends yesterday, and they all said the Joker felt weird. They missed Jack Nicholson, one guy said "Man, at least he was having fun, strutting and stuff. That guy used to have a gun that didn't even shoot bullets, just "BANG" on a flag. Where's that stuff? This guy was just some kind of whiny killer."
Bale as Batman was weird because he kept putting on his special "batman voice" that sounds like a poor impersonation of Solid Snake, i just wanted him to shut up.
Also, Two Face was a nice surprise, but I'm pretty sure that's not how someone looks when they get burned by diesel fuel. /:O
I agree with your ledger opinions . The " spirit " of the joker was not captured by ledger in my opinion . He was depressed & morbid in real life at the time of filming from what news articles say . So I don't even think he was even acting for the joker part . He was just being himself on the screen . I don't get these stars sometimes . The guy had the world by the b*llz . Yet he's depressed & pretty much kills himself .
I still like Bale though . to quote alexziq " this is not superfriends " Best statement to sum it up .
I was pleasently surprised by Two face . When I seen shots of him before the movie I thoght I was going to hate him . But the character was very well done & the actor played him perfectly .
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Post by: b.easy on July 25, 2008, 03:17:15 PM
I'm not really sure the Joker would be as sophisticated at the beginning of his career as he would be later on. I could easily see Joker going from the Ledger Joker to the Joker On "The Batman Cartoon" to the Mark Hamill Joker on the the Animated series, as a progression. I think everyone forgets that this is technically Batman year 2 in the movies.
I can definitely see that, I did forget that this was supposed to be 'young' batman.
But as far as the voice, it was just one of the instances in the movie where it began to reek slightly of overracting. The same with the Joker's weird mannerisms and that lip licking thing he does.
Still, it was probably the best movie i've seen this year. It had a much bigger scope than the old movies, you really felt like the city was infested with crime instead of just being terrorized by a villian-of-the-week superfriends style.
Post by: Alexziq on July 25, 2008, 04:12:40 PM
I think though you have to take it like Christopher Reeves playing a very clumsy doofey Clark Kent. Hes trying to realistically protect his secret identity by acting differant. Batman while not as far fetched as Superman is still pretty obvious since theres not many in Gotham that could realistically have the money, and motive to be Batman.
Bale felt that like Spiderman on the old 60's cartoons should change his voice as Batman. It just was more obvious in this film than it was in Begins. A minor flw to me though.
Post by: Sub-Zero on July 25, 2008, 04:17:02 PM
ccuz in the comics he was on another lvl of insane the joker is the #1 baddest villian of all time
and ledger did a perfect portrayal of him
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on July 25, 2008, 04:29:47 PM
I'm not really sure the Joker would be as sophisticated at the beginning of his career as he would be later on. I could easily see Joker going from the Ledger Joker to the Joker On "The Batman Cartoon" to the Mark Hamill Joker on the the Animated series, as a progression. I think everyone forgets that this is technically Batman year 2 in the movies.
I can definitely see that, I did forget that this was supposed to be 'young' batman.
But as far as the voice, it was just one of the instances in the movie where it began to reek slightly of overracting. The same with the Joker's weird mannerisms and that lip licking thing he does.
Still, it was probably the best movie i've seen this year. It had a much bigger scope than the old movies, you really felt like the city was infested with crime instead of just being terrorized by a villian-of-the-week superfriends style.
I'm glad i'm not the only one that noticed that . That lip licking thing was just plain stupid & I don't really know why he did that .
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Post by: TomBewley on July 25, 2008, 04:41:31 PM
Spoilers Below
What I loved:
Heath as the Joker- I thought Heath played a very different Joker to what people are used to seeing. He was truly insane, although less, well jokey than other performances. And no, my opinion isn't swayed by his death unlike some people. It was a fantastic performance, but well it wasn't the Joker I know and love. He did have his moments (the magic pencil) where it felt like him, but he seemed to serious at times. But then I don't really know :-??
Two-Face/Harvey- Aaron played this so well, it was really wonderful to see. Although I feel his time was short as Two-Face it really showed how he had fallen and why. None of this lets flip the coin until we get the result we want (Damn you Batman Forever)
Alfred- Got to love Michael in this film. He played an actual character rather than just a stiff old butler. He brought Alfred to life.
I did think it tried to fit too much into one film. Two Face should have been in the next film along with Joker (I mean they didn't kill Joker off and he did say him and Batman would be fighting forever, they obviously wanted to bring him back).
And they killed Rachel off! Hmmm, new love interest in the next film perhaps, a female villain? Harley to carry on the Joker's work? Catwoman as that on and off love fling?
I did love the film very much, although the hype was way too much due to Heath's death. I don't know why but the film I think lacked something. Maybe it's just me :-??
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on July 25, 2008, 05:53:44 PM
Just got back from seeing it and I thought I should give my opinions, as well as a quick visit to the forum
Spoilers Below
What I loved:
Heath as the Joker- I thought Heath played a very different Joker to what people are used to seeing. He was truly insane, although less, well jokey than other performances. And no, my opinion isn't swayed by his death unlike some people. It was a fantastic performance, but well it wasn't the Joker I know and love. He did have his moments (the magic pencil) where it felt like him, but he seemed to serious at times. But then I don't really know :-??
Two-Face/Harvey- Aaron played this so well, it was really wonderful to see. Although I feel his time was short as Two-Face it really showed how he had fallen and why. None of this lets flip the coin until we get the result we want (Damn you Batman Forever)
Alfred- Got to love Michael in this film. He played an actual character rather than just a stiff old butler. He brought Alfred to life.
I did think it tried to fit too much into one film. Two Face should have been in the next film along with Joker (I mean they didn't kill Joker off and he did say him and Batman would be fighting forever, they obviously wanted to bring him back).
And they killed Rachel off! Hmmm, new love interest in the next film perhaps, a female villain? Harley to carry on the Joker's work? Catwoman as that on and off love fling?
I did love the film very much, although the hype was way too much due to Heath's death. I don't know why but the film I think lacked something. Maybe it's just me :-??
I don't think they tried to fit too much into the film. I feel this is how a sequel to an origins movie should be. I'm just sick of seeing the same old movies, where there's some story throughout most of the movie and then there's just one main fight scene at the end. So many movies fall under this category
All of the spiderman films, all of the xmen films, pretty much all marvel films.
This was different though, it has plot and action perfectly at the right times. Not too much, not too little. I'm ok with it though when it's an origins film, because directors have to give a character enough time to grow into the hero he becomes, but when it's sequel is pretty much the same, it's rather lame.
I think Bane would make a good villain because I just got finished reading a Batman comic, basically he blew out a wall in Arkham Asylum, freed all the the inmates, and the Joker was trying to kill the one guy who I guess owned the Asylum, and it was pretty similar to the movie. He held the guy with a wire strapped under his chin and connected to the trigger of a shotgun so if Mr.Arkham goes off his feet, well you get the idea. After enough taunting, the Joker had left him and Batman saved Mr.Arkham, but it was too late because he had already gone insane.
Post by: Theendgamelv3 on July 26, 2008, 01:03:37 AM
Post by: Alexziq on July 26, 2008, 02:14:04 AM
I got back from watching the film....not to bad. I mean I was expecting a tad more from it, but I didn't leave disappointed either. Harvey Dent was really good in the film. Joker........I liked him, it was a different take and it was a good different take. Award winning....no, if Jack didn't win a award for it I don't think Heath should. I liked Jack's Joker alittle more. In films, I believe actors who do popular characters IMO should put some of their own self into the character without losing who and what the character is. I think again Heath did a good job with the Joker, while being different and added his own style to him. I like how they went with Batman being public enemy no.1 at the end so that was neat. Bale's Batman is good. I think he is the best Batman to date...except his voice as Batman. He sounds like he has lung cancer. I mean gruff is ok. Snake has a gruff voice which was good. Superfriends....how about the animated Batman of the 90s and 2000s outside of course "The Batman" cartoon. Kevin Conroy did his voice perfectly. It wasn't gruff or anything cause it doesn't need to be.
Conroy distinctly sounded different than Bruce Wayne though as Batman. Bruce was very sophisticated, and dapper, Batmans voice was much harsher. That died down during the series and into Justice League, but most dialouge was with alfred, or d*** Grayson Robin that didnt need the deeper tone, but again that series takes place right b4 Robin would become Nightwing, and several years after where this movie leaves off. I still dont see it that far fetched.
To me Bale is Frank Millers vision, and I predict once this series is done Miller might get the next shot. After Sin City, 300, and the up and coming Spirit film, its a matter of time b4 we see a Frank Miller Batman. There wont be much to debate when that puppy happens. Frank Millers movies are 3D versions of the comics.
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on July 26, 2008, 03:04:30 AM
I got back from watching the film....not to bad. I mean I was expecting a tad more from it, but I didn't leave disappointed either. Harvey Dent was really good in the film. Joker........I liked him, it was a different take and it was a good different take. Award winning....no, if Jack didn't win a award for it I don't think Heath should. I liked Jack's Joker alittle more. In films, I believe actors who do popular characters IMO should put some of their own self into the character without losing who and what the character is. I think again Heath did a good job with the Joker, while being different and added his own style to him. I like how they went with Batman being public enemy no.1 at the end so that was neat. Bale's Batman is good. I think he is the best Batman to date...except his voice as Batman. He sounds like he has lung cancer. I mean gruff is ok. Snake has a gruff voice which was good. Superfriends....how about the animated Batman of the 90s and 2000s outside of course "The Batman" cartoon. Kevin Conroy did his voice perfectly. It wasn't gruff or anything cause it doesn't need to be.
Conroy distinctly sounded different than Bruce Wayne though as Batman. Bruce was very sophisticated, and dapper, Batmans voice was much harsher. That died down during the series and into Justice League, but most dialouge was with alfred, or p**** Grayson Robin that didnt need the deeper tone, but again that series takes place right b4 Robin would become Nightwing, and several years after where this movie leaves off. I still dont see it that far fetched.
To me Bale is Frank Millers vision, and I predict once this series is done Miller might get the next shot. After Sin City, 300, and the up and coming Spirit film, its a matter of time b4 we see a Frank Miller Batman. There wont be much to debate when that puppy happens. Frank Millers movies are 3D versions of the comics.
Speaking of Frank Miller, what are your thoughts on Batman: Year 100? (yeah, it's not miller. But it's more like a sequel of sorts to his own Year One arc)
Post by: I_Burner on July 26, 2008, 03:59:57 PM
As for the Jack vs. Ledger debate, I don't think it's even fair to make a comparison. Nicholson's Joker was a completely different character from a very different vision of Gotham. And though I loved Jack's Joker, I never lost sight of the fact that I was watching Jack Nicholson act. Ledger's performance was impressive to me simply because I could forget that it was Heath Ledger on screen. This Joker had to be different from what we've seen before, otherwise the movie wouldn't work. If Ledger played this character too much like Jack, or Hamill, or (God help us) Romero, people would view his performance as a failure (regardless of whether or not he's alive), and the movie would have tanked. The kind of pressure he was under to not only give a performance that could carry the film but to also separate himself from giants who have played this character before him was tremendous. Some of the mannerisms he chose were odd, but this was an attempt at a realistic Joker. In real life, if there was someone truly that twisted, they would be bound to have some other issues. Yes, this was a departure from what we have seen before, but again within the context of these films, I don't think this character could have been portrayed any better.
You know, I never mean to go off on these huge rants.... It just sort of happens....
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on July 29, 2008, 05:41:03 AM
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Post by: malisiousjoe on July 29, 2008, 08:01:16 AM
Post by: Alexziq on July 29, 2008, 09:01:07 AM
Bale however has said that he believes the 3rd film will be even better than the 2nd, and it was always intended that way. We shall see whats up there sleve in a couple years.
Post by: malisiousjoe on July 29, 2008, 05:48:47 PM
No they said they would not re-cat Joker.*rubs hands together* I can't wait!
Bale however has said that he believes the 3rd film will be even better than the 2nd, and it was always intended that way. We shall see whats up there sleve in a couple years.
Post by: thefisherkings on July 30, 2008, 10:34:17 AM
No they said they would not re-cat Joker.
Bale however has said that he believes the 3rd film will be even better than the 2nd, and it was always intended that way. We shall see whats up there sleve in a couple years.
I just got a wierd feeling in my stomach
Post by: ATiC3 on July 30, 2008, 10:39:14 AM
Health Ledger performed his last and (what I think is) his greatest role as The Joker!
This movie was epic, and I can't wait for the 2 DVD set when it comes out!! I'm sure they'll do it, sometime.