Post by: Spidermew on July 04, 2008, 03:13:06 AM
HE'S OUT NOW!!!! :) Kick off your 4 of July celebration, with Team Spoiler, and our 1 year birthday event, begining with Sniper Joe!
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/SpiderMew/sniperjoe-2.png) (http://freewebs.com/spidermew)
I started this project a while ago. This is the first character ive ever made, though he's not 100% he's ready for the public to try him out. There are still lots of moves I want to put in to make him intresting, and I may have to re do some sprites eventualy but I want public feed back, he's been cooped up in my harddrive for too long.
If it werent for Infinity and everyone here who saw a sprite I made for my sig, and encouraged me to make it into a character, this never would have happend. Heck I had to redo most of the stuff in code I tryed to figure out by putting it all on the MVC eoh template, with some mods ofcorse. Susan Mugen and Alexziq fixed allot of where I screwd up, added a bunch of stuff for me, Alex even edited my voice for me with some neet effects.
So Infinity, I present to you, Sniper Joe!
[youtube=425,350]-nmiqsBi1SU[/youtube]
http://freewebs.com/spidermew (http://freewebs.com/spidermew)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/SpiderMew/sniperjoe-2.png) (http://freewebs.com/spidermew)
Post by: Aura-Master on July 04, 2008, 03:18:53 AM
Post by: malisiousjoe on July 04, 2008, 03:25:49 AM
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on July 04, 2008, 03:46:14 AM
Post by: Aura-Master on July 04, 2008, 03:51:07 AM
Post by: laspacho on July 04, 2008, 04:08:07 AM
The modified voice/laugh is funny, I like it. The Motor Bike with the Wily symbol is cool too, that must have taken a while.
Here is a couple things I found while playing around with him.
He doesn't have a jumping light punch, which make aircombo's hard to do. The AI seems to lock up also sometimes.
For the grenade maybe have three different spots to throw with each of the three kicks?
Thanks for sharing. Now I'm gonna go back and play some more with him. :thumbsup:
first sniper joe then crashman next, this is gonna be the greatest 4th of july XD||
Sorry no Crashman today. He is still being coded and not ready yet. I never said he would be released today.
I thought is was Team spoiler release to day anyways. ;D
Post by: Aura-Master on July 04, 2008, 04:10:31 AM
Congrats on your character release. I just played around with him. I like the sprite work you have done.
The modified voice/laugh is funny, I like it. The Motor Bike with the Wily symbol is cool too, that must have taken a while.
Here is a couple things I found while playing around with him.
He doesn't have a jumping light punch, which make aircombo's hard to do. The AI seems to lock up also sometimes.
For the grenade maybe have three different spots to throw with each of the three kicks?
Thanks for sharing. Now I'm gonna go back and play some more with him. :thumbsup:first sniper joe then crashman next, this is gonna be the greatest 4th of july XD||
Sorry no Crashman today.
a delay?
Post by: .Batzarro. on July 04, 2008, 04:23:59 AM
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on July 04, 2008, 05:26:07 AM
Post by: BLue BoMBeR on July 04, 2008, 07:27:36 AM
anyway great release! :)
Post by: Alexziq on July 04, 2008, 10:14:49 AM
Post by: Spidermew on July 04, 2008, 10:57:29 AM
the only problem is, when your opponent attacks you and you wield it.... you stuck.... and the intro... stucks in the air...
anyway great release! :)
Well I just realized that sometimes that triggers, because he still has block push in there. If it becomes a real problem we'll take that out.
Intro stuck in air /:O Ide have no idea why that happend, but like alexziq said, we will find the bugs yall mention and fix them.
Im glad yall like him so far, and dont worry, everything you say will be concidered when uprgading Sniper Joe here.
Post by: That Mugen Guy on July 04, 2008, 11:27:13 AM
Post by: I_Burner on July 04, 2008, 12:21:22 PM
Post by: Diek Stiekem on July 04, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
Time for some feedback:
- I know he his supposed to "autoblock" when not moving due to his shield (character thing and whole), when it happens he "freezes" up and locks up, only a push block breaks it up... But I have a hunch this is the idea due to his roots from the old games (That's the strategy he used there)
- Seems logical that his strikers take up a little from his super bar, but why does the grenade toss cost super meter? (It's a but useless tbh if it does)
- He seems to be missing a frame here and there..
Besides (and the no jumping lp Laspacho already mentioned) that I really like what you did.. spriting obviously took you a while and I love his personality! ::salute::
Post by: Alexziq on July 04, 2008, 01:53:15 PM
I really like the personality you give this guy, not to mention that this guy is really an old school character! 8)
Time for some feedback:
- I know he his supposed to "autoblock" when not moving due to his shield (character thing and whole), when it happens he "freezes" up and locks up, only a push block breaks it up... But I have a hunch this is the idea due to his roots from the old games (That's the strategy he used there)
- Seems logical that his strikers take up a little from his super bar, but why does the grenade toss cost super meter? (It's a but useless tbh if it does)
- He seems to be missing a frame here and there..
Besides (and the no jumping lp Laspacho already mentioned) that I really like what you did.. spriting obviously took you a while and I love his personality! ::salute::
Ya know thats a good point on the grenade, mew had it coded, and I re-did it without checking the trigger, thats my bad if Mew didnt want it that way.
Post by: Spidermew on July 04, 2008, 01:55:48 PM
Post by: BLue BoMBeR on July 04, 2008, 10:08:51 PM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 04, 2008, 10:48:28 PM
But I have to say, for you first character, well above par. SJ is well on his way to being right up there with Megaman himself. Looking forward to the progress. :)
BTW, we need a Sniper Joe Smiley with his eye moving back and forth!
Post by: Spidermew on July 04, 2008, 11:10:59 PM
Its more effective version someone who is blocking then someone who isnt.
It got very low power on a normal hit, but its block is higher, like say 15 for the normal hit but yet 50 for blocking.
Its susposted to help agaisnt freaking people with turtle tatics
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 04, 2008, 11:48:10 PM
Well the sheild beraker is a unique kind of attack.
Its more effective version someone who is blocking then someone who isnt.
It got very low power on a normal hit, but its block is higher, like say 15 for the normal hit but yet 50 for blocking.
Its susposted to help agaisnt freaking people with turtle tatics
...hence then name Shield Breaker. OK, so it's is designed that way, now it makes sense.
Couple more things:
I've also noticed that even though his basic attacks with chain into each other, Sniper Joe pushes the opponent away after about 2-3 hits, especially his LP.
The MP and HP fireballs can be spammed. I just did a 115 hit combo with HP and a 81 hit with MP.
Post by: Spidermew on July 04, 2008, 11:59:45 PM
Well the sheild beraker is a unique kind of attack.
Its more effective version someone who is blocking then someone who isnt.
It got very low power on a normal hit, but its block is higher, like say 15 for the normal hit but yet 50 for blocking.
Its susposted to help agaisnt freaking people with turtle tatics
...hence then name Shield Breaker. OK, so it's is designed that way, now it makes sense.
Couple more things:
I've also noticed that even though his basic attacks with chain into each other, Sniper Joe pushes the opponent away after about 2-3 hits, especially his LP.
The MP and HP fireballs can be spammed. I just did a 115 hit combo with HP and a 81 hit with MP.
OK that defently needs to be fixed, cuz you shouldnt be able to do that
Post by: Magma MK-II on July 05, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
I've did about 250 hits!Well the sheild beraker is a unique kind of attack.
Its more effective version someone who is blocking then someone who isnt.
It got very low power on a normal hit, but its block is higher, like say 15 for the normal hit but yet 50 for blocking.
Its susposted to help agaisnt freaking people with turtle tatics
...hence then name Shield Breaker. OK, so it's is designed that way, now it makes sense.
Couple more things:
I've also noticed that even though his basic attacks with chain into each other, Sniper Joe pushes the opponent away after about 2-3 hits, especially his LP.
The MP and HP fireballs can be spammed. I just did a 115 hit combo with HP and a 81 hit with MP.
Post by: Spidermew on July 05, 2008, 01:33:45 PM
Post by: KPT25 on July 05, 2008, 04:28:00 PM
now my feedback:
*SJ can be killed by cheap damage if the opponent starts spamming special at his back,and when he`s killed,the lose pose glitches and starts going off-screen(it goes up as a matter of fact,i cannot see SJ win pose)
*He`s invincible while walking back...he has no collision box while moving back.
He`s also cannot be hit when using the sniper buster(any level,i can post a screenshot on those ones if you want)
*I suggest you guys to take a little look at the debug messages that appear in my screens...some of them are not significant bug wise,but some might be
*Sniper Bike is a level 2 hyper when you have 2 bars or more,but at level 1,but using QCB+2K,you still can perform the hyper move
Backwalk:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/io21r9.png)
Buster shot:
(http://i27.tinypic.com/33xx8ja.png)
Jumping fwd/back+Kick/Punch doesn`t hit or get hit either,look:
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2njd6qc.png)
More to come soon...
Post by: senorfro on July 05, 2008, 06:50:26 PM
- I don't like the fact that once you launch your opponent, you high jump automatically without any input.
- If 'Shield Breaker' hits the opponent, they recover much too quickly. Try changing it to where it knocks down the opponent.
- 'Combo Rush' pushes the opponent too far for it to finish properly.
- 'Sniper Joe Rides' can be done with either punches or kicks.
- If he's hit during his taunt, the laugh still continues.
I look forward to him after you guys fix him up a bit. Good concept for a character.
Post by: Esʞy on July 05, 2008, 06:57:22 PM
Post by: Spidermew on July 05, 2008, 07:13:16 PM
Post by: iDramaboy on July 05, 2008, 07:17:42 PM
i really like the sprite work
Post by: pmc1416 on July 06, 2008, 06:55:43 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on July 06, 2008, 10:33:45 AM
You char need some work here:
1- Intro: It floods the debug screen with "no parent". Some people thinks this is "debug nonsense", but its not. Lookint at your char, I've found this lost part of code:
Quote
[State F]
type = destroyself
trigger1 = parent,stateno = 193
Remove this part of code from states 192-193 and this will stop.
2 - Still on intro: If you took a look, your char will appear offset for some frames. And the flames must be quicker.
3 - invalid state: Why you're making him change to state 140? There is no state 140 on mugen
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[State 0, Stop Guarding]
type = ChangeState
trigger1 = command != "holdback"
trigger2 = !inguarddist
value = 140
And I've noticed that all your guarding states are screwed up. You need to work more there.
3- Anims: many anims are kind weird, like 200,430,450 (his shield is lower than the floor), 1000 (his arms are weird).
I hope that I've helped you :)
Post by: Gaijin on July 06, 2008, 10:40:03 AM
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 06, 2008, 02:00:14 PM
1. Like KPT25 said, he can't be hit when he fires Sniper Buster, or even when he activates the move.
Behold exibit A.
(http://imageupload.com/out.php/i135608_fireball.png)
That is when he is right about to fire it off, so once he starts the move, you can't even stop him from firing that shot.
2. The concept for the auto-guard makes sense, very true to Sniper Joe. Only problem is, he gets stuck in it.
Behold exibits B & C.
(http://imageupload.com/out.php/i135613_freeze.png)
(http://imageupload.com/out.php/i135671_freeze2.png)
Notice the area is purple, not blue. When he gets stuck in either of these poses, which tends to happen often, the AI will not push guard at all. Plus, since you can't grab him when he's in auto-guard, the only way to hit him is with an Muteki (unblockable) move. EX: ChAoTiC Megaman's lvl 3 "Mega-Misogi"
3. I noticed he's missing a few air-hit animations, but more importantly, he can't be air comboed.
Behold exibit D.
(http://imageupload.com/out.php/i135672_aircombo.png)
Notice there is no clsn decection, so he's invincible until he lands, so if you knock him into the air, it won't do any good to chase.
So overall, excellent sprite work, coding, not so much. but again, I see good things in SJ's future.
Post by: The King Sic-1™ on July 22, 2008, 06:57:38 PM
Post by: Spidermew on July 22, 2008, 09:20:58 PM
whats stage is that in the Vid? the one with the big a$$ robot looking at the fighters??Super Robot Battle
by Tabris
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on July 28, 2008, 03:33:40 PM
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll233/Dne909/back.gif)
Post by: Spidermew on July 28, 2008, 03:39:58 PM
I know it's way late but...
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll233/Dne909/back.gif)
So you think i should just turn him arround for his walk backwards... hmm...
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on July 28, 2008, 03:45:43 PM
yea, I think it would look better like that(no offense what so ever).I know it's way late but...
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll233/Dne909/back.gif)
So you think i should just turn him arround for his walk backwards... hmm...
Post by: Luis/Dshiznet on July 28, 2008, 06:25:53 PM