Post by: Marancv on May 08, 2008, 02:40:28 PM
so i decided to start in something completely new to me: MvC
after see that sucha great character as Phoenix hasnt really been made (i know Jean grey char...one attack and winpose as fenix..is not a full phoenix wich u can see here:
http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=k1wCN2AUYrk)
i decided to take this on my hands and bring her to mugen.
she is being conceived as a boss character, due to his Hi profile. so in 2 days work i have this to show ya:
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/stance.gif)
stance (need to fix boobs bounce xD )
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/jumpc.gif)
in place jump (elevation, due to she always floats)
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/forward.gif)
move forward
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/backward.gif)
move backward
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/defensestance.gif)
in place defense (subject to change)
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/fireballA.gif)(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/beam1.gif)(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/god1.gif)(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/fireballB.gif)
several moves
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/fenixoscuro.gif)(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/fenixblanco.gif)
Dark and White Phoenix Palettes.
most of the anims has transitional frames, but since i did the gifs with FF, i removed them to just show the main actions.
Ideas, C&C are welcome as always, just one thing: yeah, i want the hair to look that way %-(
Post by: TomBewley on May 08, 2008, 02:50:45 PM
Some of the animations are a little choppy as well, but in 2 days work that's impressive.
:)
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 08, 2008, 02:53:16 PM
Anyways, with two days of work, that's a lot of stuff and it looks good. I'd say add shading to her cloth thing around her waist as right now it looks more like a design on her costume. All in all, looks really promising and I look forward to seeing more. :thumbsup:
Post by: Marancv on May 08, 2008, 03:12:37 PM
She looks nice, apart from the hair.
x_x
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For the feel of power, use Gills hairmmmm....could work xP ill consider it, thx
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(although this isn't dark Phoenix but oh well)maybe if u press start...idk >:D
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Some of the animations are a little choppy
i know...T_T
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but in 2 days work that's impressivethx
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I was about to mention the hair. ;*))LOL
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I'd say add shading to her cloth thing around her waist as
maybe further ill do that. thx for the obsv! :thumbsup:
Post by: Worksa8 on May 08, 2008, 03:22:50 PM
XD
Looks nice though =)
Post by: +L y n d ii on May 08, 2008, 03:43:47 PM
I like the stance but..here it comes...The DBZ-esque hair's gotta go! xD
Other than that it looks groovy! =D
Post by: Marancv on May 08, 2008, 04:09:50 PM
i like it that way T_T
Post by: +L y n d ii on May 08, 2008, 04:18:25 PM
It's just not really Phoenix, if the hair had more fluidity and maybe a softer wave rather than spikes it would probably look better.
But hey, it's your project sugah! Everything else looks great and I know it'll come out awsome in the end! =D
Ooh! Give her High heels!!! xD
Post by: alex87 on May 08, 2008, 04:48:38 PM
Post by: laspacho on May 08, 2008, 05:52:56 PM
I wish you the best of luck with your new wip. ;D
Post by: Marancv on May 08, 2008, 06:42:44 PM
any suggestions about moves and such, ppl?
Post by: Cyclysm on May 08, 2008, 07:38:25 PM
The hair needs major shading improvements,I would suggest highly editing off of Gill or Remy.The hair is also shaped oddly,like everyone else said.
The animations are choppy and don't seem to be all that fluid,but you did say it is an early start,I am sure you will improve ;)
good luck %%-
Post by: Worksa8 on May 08, 2008, 08:44:07 PM
If you WANT to keep it that way then do, but you should still think about other ways...
Hair can be a *****, believe me I know; but picture it like water, and less like groups of the same thing. Also keep in mind sometimes hair doesn't just neatly pull together.
Just try new things, thats the best way to learn in my opinion..
Post by: Sabaki on May 08, 2008, 08:48:44 PM
Sure, if could be slimmed down in certain areas, but I think it's a good idea.
Anyways, glad to hear that you're undertaking such an amazing WIP. Wish you luck, and if I come up with any ideas I'll post it.
Post by: amarillo002 on May 08, 2008, 09:29:59 PM
she is starting to looks beautiful
nice work man
seeya
Post by: ~Wolfpaul~ on May 08, 2008, 09:51:27 PM
Post by: Draco on May 08, 2008, 09:52:12 PM
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/god1.gif)(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/fireballB.gif)
look a little weird to me, also some work on the body would make her look better.
Good luck. %%-
Post by: +L y n d ii on May 08, 2008, 11:13:42 PM
thx laspacho. youre right about the arm .ill add a frame.I don't know if you've played this game but what about some of her moves from X-Men: Next Dimension? Alot of her moves from there are pretty cool, I was just playing this actually ^_^
any suggestions about moves and such, ppl?
You might be able to find some videos of her gameplay on youtube.
If not, I can describe some to you =D
Post by: Fallen_Angel on May 08, 2008, 11:23:56 PM
Post by: Weapon x program on May 09, 2008, 03:47:26 AM
i know you won t deceive me [-O<
Post by: Worksa8 on May 09, 2008, 06:52:11 AM
best wip of the week XD||No, thats Master Yun xD
i know you won t deceive me [-O<
Post by: Marancv on May 09, 2008, 09:20:27 AM
about the hair thing...I really like it that way, bc i visualized that way. needs cleaning, thou i know.
what im planning is first finish the whole spriteset and then poolish it in some spots.
the area lacking of shading is the inner part of the legs (damn inglich, las entrepiernas, pues)
but thats matter of phase of poolish.
I really like the hair style dudes, bc with Gills hair will be "Gill haired" so the same with anyone else's hair.
@Lyndii: thx for the tip, ill search some vids ;)
@worksa: i know what ya mean with the water-ish way of move, but i like the spikey look bc she will get a power aura below her (morrigan style) inducing the idea of she using her powers in full charge..like overpowered possesed....nutz @v@
but i shoud add that by making around 40 sprites in 2 days...something has to went bad. lol
i just realized yesterday that in the jump anim, some frames,the "belt" is not completed! lol
is fixed now,thou
Post by: Weapon x program on May 09, 2008, 09:26:52 AM
Post by: b.easy on May 09, 2008, 10:06:26 AM
It doesn't look like she would fit with other MVC style characters with that.
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 09, 2008, 01:08:51 PM
Yes I am going to say it . The hair . I don't think the sprite style of the hair matches the rest of the charcater . The animations of it , make it look strange . Her hair , is kind of like Hobgoblin's cape . I did the same with the cape , just kind of made the ends of the ripped cape move around erractically . It doesn't look right on screen , I see that now .
If you are really happy with the hair style & are going to stick with it . You may want to make the complete strands blow around . Move the starnd little by little in each sprite & it wil give it a more " fluent " look . Then when she gets mad crazy with her power , make it fly around wildly .
Hope this suggestion helps
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/hobgoblin1-1.gif)
Post by: I_Burner on May 10, 2008, 07:46:10 PM
BTW, this whole hair drama is rather amusing. If nothing else, I'll be checking in on this thread just to see how that develops :)
Post by: Worksa8 on May 10, 2008, 11:07:47 PM
Post by: eSkRo on May 12, 2008, 04:47:04 PM
Nice Job!
I like her Hair alot!
Keep it up!
Post by: Marancv on May 12, 2008, 06:31:51 PM
WoW!
Nice Job!
I like her Hair alot!
Keep it up!
sounds like a cheer up to me, thx sKRo ;D #:-S
lol
working on gethits atm.
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I don't know many spriters that are willing to fix their own work, after they have made alot of the sprites. Everyone is too lazy, or doesn't have the time =Phell true. but also is the wish to sprite new ideas instead of fix past work that can be patched/fixed/touched further ;) :D
Post by: Worksa8 on May 12, 2008, 07:53:20 PM
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I don't know many spriters that are willing to fix their own work, after they have made alot of the sprites. Everyone is too lazy, or doesn't have the time =Phell true. but also is the wish to sprite new ideas instead of fix past work that can be patched/fixed/touched further ;) :D
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Pretty much....and I remember you now, way back before I left infinity for that rather long period of time....You were screwing around with Orochi sprite edits back then.....
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 13, 2008, 03:31:03 AM
The hair will probably remain the same, I don't know many spriters that are willing to fix their own work, after they have made alot of the sprites. Everyone is too lazy, or doesn't have the time =P
I must be the rare exception to this . I had alot of Medieval Spawn sprites done . I am now redoing all of them because I redesigned the spikes , skulls & some other stuff . Believe me it was a pain lining those spikes up when he moved the first time . Since the spikes are designed different I have to line them all up again . The way I look at it is this ..... We take all this time spriting a character , why not go the extra mile ? What's another 24 hours or even week of work if it will drastically improves the way the character looks . that's why I'm redoing stuff on all of Medieval Spawn's sprites . Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this way :-??
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/hobgoblin1-1.gif)
Post by: Marancv on May 13, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
corrected and added frames to jump anim
added stand to crouch, crouchto stand, right to left..
*starting to mount over kfm.*.. :thumbsup:
Post by: Weapon x program on May 13, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
Post by: Marancv on May 13, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
Post by: Weapon x program on May 13, 2008, 01:00:59 PM
Post by: Marancv on May 13, 2008, 01:05:16 PM
maybe emma frost.. idk :-?? ;)
Post by: Weapon x program on May 13, 2008, 01:18:37 PM
Post by: Marancv on May 16, 2008, 02:04:37 PM
Phoenix's basic system moves (walkings, jumpings,turnings,crouching,gethits)
nuting spectacular, just FYI ;)
Post by: Random Regular on May 16, 2008, 03:25:38 PM
[youtube=425,350]PmhMV30oDMA[/youtube]
Phoenix's basic system moves (walkings, jumpings,turnings,crouching,gethits)
nuting spectacular, just FYI ;)
looks really good :)
maybe the jump should be more like floating :-??
i know she is in good hands.
good luck %%-
Post by: god_king on May 16, 2008, 03:35:53 PM
Phoenix's basic system moves (walkings, jumpings,turnings,crouching,gethits)
nuting spectacular, just FYI ;)
I like the basic build, but before you get to much further, you should give some real thought to making her arms a little more mobile. I think I see what you were going for with that posture, but she looks really stiff as it stands.
I would suggest a little horizontal movement on them during her regular stance, and more vertical movement during her jumps.
Of course, you could have that as the next item on your agenda already, in which case, I'm just pissin' in the wind.
Post by: umarboy1991 on May 17, 2008, 03:31:11 AM
Post by: Weapon x program on May 17, 2008, 04:21:27 AM
Post by: b.easy on May 17, 2008, 10:05:42 AM
The face moves up and down during the stance and it looks strange, and the breasts move in the same unnatural manner.
I reccomend what god_king and TALBAIN are saying as far as adding more movement to the stance.
In any case, she looks to be coming along nicely besides the usual little nitpicks. What types of special moves are on your mind?
Post by: esn23 on May 19, 2008, 02:08:50 AM
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p121/marancv/stance.gif)
Your Phoenix could be a great and awsome character that everyone will want years from now.. Or it can be hella crappy like the first jubilee that came out... Just take the time and it could be a super wip..
The hair will probably remain the same, I don't know many spriters that are willing to fix their own work, after they have made alot of the sprites. Everyone is too lazy, or doesn't have the time =P
I must be the rare exception to this . I had alot of Medieval Spawn sprites done . I am now redoing all of them because I redesigned the spikes , skulls & some other stuff . Believe me it was a pain lining those spikes up when he moved the first time . Since the spikes are designed different I have to line them all up again . The way I look at it is this ..... We take all this time spriting a character , why not go the extra mile ? What's another 24 hours or even week of work if it will drastically improves the way the character looks . that's why I'm redoing stuff on all of Medieval Spawn's sprites . Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this way :-??
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/hobgoblin1-1.gif)
Hey dark how many different stances and changes have I given my wip lol.. (trust me your not the only one XD)
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 19, 2008, 03:30:11 AM
Anyway back to the topic . I think when phoenix crouches her arms should come down also . You just have her upper body in the same position as the stance . Believe me a few extra frames of animation go a long way . :thumbsup:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/DARKTALBAIN/MedSpawn2.gif)