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Title: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on April 19, 2008, 10:40:32 AM
From that topic about the noob that hates fighting games :D,a branch of the discussion was turning into a pocket monsters direction
*watches as this turns into a Pokemon topic*  :P
So why not making a thread discussing not only the game as a whole,but the entire pokemon franchise or in-game stuff,like your biggest catch in that game???
I´ll start out:
Last night,i was playing with the Pokeradar(an app that allows you to get certain pokemon that weren´t avail at the beginning of the game)and suddenly started a chain of Bibarel(a beaver pokemon that everyone dislike)
Suddenly,arround the 8/9th Bibarel i got in a row,the next one that appeared was...SHINY,meaning a pokemon that has diff colors that normal and sparkles when showing in the wild/send them to battle...

In my opinion,Diamond and Pearl has been one of the best of the portable games
(NOTHING can beat collecting 16 badges like in Gold/Silver/Crystal) due to the wi-fi connection implemented,that makes battling and trading across the world easy...and the fact that you can get most of the 493 pokemon legally is just a bonus.
But i admit also that nintendo and game freak are running out of ideas for design...very few pokemon were worth using and good looking,barring the legendaries.
Why did they have to put a turtle and a monkey into the starters?that class of pokemon has been done already and they keep repeating them...on the other side it was good for them to add variety with stuff like a penguin as the water starter and new unique type combinations...

Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Barrysun on April 19, 2008, 12:46:35 PM
yea, and with a few old pokemon got new evoluions. (currently am training Magmortar and Electivire plus a few others)
and thanks to pokemon battle revoltion, I can take on all kinds of people online (and pwning them with my Espeon/Vapereon combination)
with the physical/specal split, I had to becareful with some of the moves I let my pokemon learn. (with Zangoose making use of Shadow claw instead of shadow ball because of the spite)
but at least some pokemon ether has gains and losses.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 19, 2008, 02:05:37 PM
yep...the main thing in DP was the fact that Rock,Ground and Normal attacks(that were always physical) are split as well into physical and special(power gem,earth power,hyper beam)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Lightsworn on April 19, 2008, 03:21:05 PM
Diamond and pearl are on par with gold and silver.

A new game has been announced to be released this fall in japan, my guess its the third 4th gen game or a remake of gold and silver.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 19, 2008, 03:24:03 PM
To me the best generation was the 2nd with Gold/Silver not forgetting about the past versions, New versions should do that.

D/P feels really close if most of it's Pokémon didn't look like crap. Gameplay wise it's an outstanding improvement.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: aPoCaLyPsE on April 19, 2008, 05:27:00 PM
From that topic about the noob that hates fighting games :D,a branch of the discussion was turning into a pocket monsters direction...

...So why not making a thread discussing not only the game as a whole,but the entire pokemon franchise or in-game stuff,like your biggest catch in that game???
I´ll start out:
Last night,i was playing with the Pokeradar(an app that allows you to get certain pokemon that weren´t avail at the beginning of the game)and suddenly started a chain of Bibarel(a beaver pokemon that everyone dislike)
Suddenly,arround the 8/9th Bibarel i got in a row,the next one that appeared was...SHINY,meaning a pokemon that has diff colors that normal and sparkles when showing in the wild/send them to battle...

In my opinion,Diamond and Pearl has been one of the best of the portable games
(NOTHING can beat collecting 16 badges like in Gold/Silver/Crystal) due to the wi-fi connection implemented,that makes battling and trading across the world easy...and the fact that you can get most of the 493 pokemon legally is just a bonus.
But i admit also that nintendo and game freak are running out of ideas for design...very few pokemon were worth using and good looking,barring the legendaries.
Why did they have to put a turtle and a monkey into the starters?that class of pokemon has been done already and they keep repeating them...on the other side it was good for them to add variety with stuff like a penguin as the water starter and new unique type combinations...



:+:Backs KPT25's vote:+:

I have to admit as much as I am ashamed in still being a Pokemon follower, I personally purchased most all Pokemon titles (Owned: Blue/Red/Diamond/Stadium/Crystal/Pinball/Snap/TCG(trading card game)/and the one on the Gamecube where you can run around like the GB and catch possessed Pokemon, which I went out and brought a gamecube just for that one game)

Call it being a kid at heart, but yeh totally by far, Diamond and Pearl are must haves. The Wi-Fi Trading and Battling has been the most interactive and innovative Freak InC. (or whomever develops the pokemon game) it's ever been. I just wish I didn't lose my DS and Diamond. Still contemplating buying a new DS and Pearl this time around.

-"aPoC."
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 19, 2008, 06:04:33 PM
Too bad you lost your DS and Diamond...and i agree in some point with Gigan X3 about some of the new pokemon looking like crap.
The starters,some of the new evolutions(electivire,roserade,mismagius and honchkrow mainly),and totally new ones(like Starly,Shinx and Cranidos lines) are just the exceptions instead of the rule...i don`t know why they designed Lickilicky(Lickitung`s evolution) or Ambipom(aipom`s) like that...same with Magnezone(ton`s evo)...it`s ok,but it doesn`t look that good either...
The legendaries are cool looking most of them(excluding Shaymin,who is the mew,celebi and jirachi of 4th gen and Manaphy lines,that look horribly cute in a bad way)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 19, 2008, 06:24:05 PM
Too bad you lost your DS and Diamond...and i agree in some point with Gigan X3 about some of the new pokemon looking like crap.
The starters,some of the new evolutions(electivire,roserade,mismagius and honchkrow mainly),and totally new ones(like Starly,Shinx and Cranidos lines) are just the exceptions instead of the rule...i don`t know why they designed Lickilicky(Lickitung`s evolution) or Ambipom(aipom`s) like that...same with Magnezone(ton`s evo)...it`s ok,but it doesn`t look that good either...
The legendaries are cool looking most of them(excluding Shaymin,who is the mew,celebi and jirachi of 4th gen and Manaphy lines,that look horribly cute in a bad way)

I think Palkia and Dalgia look too simple, Sure Mewtwo is too simple looking too but you can see the character in him, Lucario has the same thing about the character, but Palkia and Dialga look rather bland...of course if you put them side by side with Cresselia then Cresselia wins the title of most crappy looking Legendary.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on April 19, 2008, 09:44:49 PM
D/P is fun and all, but I think I'm all alone when I say I don't the 3d elements of the game. I miss the flatness.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 20, 2008, 12:10:17 AM
Too bad you lost your DS and Diamond...and i agree in some point with Gigan X3 about some of the new pokemon looking like crap.
The starters,some of the new evolutions(electivire,roserade,mismagius and honchkrow mainly),and totally new ones(like Starly,Shinx and Cranidos lines) are just the exceptions instead of the rule...i don`t know why they designed Lickilicky(Lickitung`s evolution) or Ambipom(aipom`s) like that...same with Magnezone(ton`s evo)...it`s ok,but it doesn`t look that good either...
The legendaries are cool looking most of them(excluding Shaymin,who is the mew,celebi and jirachi of 4th gen and Manaphy lines,that look horribly cute in a bad way)

I think Palkia and Dalgia look too simple, Sure Mewtwo is too simple looking too but you can see the character in him, Lucario has the same thing about the character, but Palkia and Dialga look rather bland...of course if you put them side by side with Cresselia then Cresselia wins the title of most crappy looking Legendary.
QFT...Cresselia looks horrible...a lunar "duck"??
I`ll chase it just because i`m bored and i`ll catch it either way
And Lucario?plz...they can`t give a non legendary pokemon a leading role in a movie(Besides ash`s Pikachu,but that`s the main one in the anime...)
Lucario is the most overrated pokemon ever,he even made it in Brawl instead of Mewtwo  >o:-(
Lately,game freak and nintendo have been giving more involvement in the storylines to the games legendary pokemons...in RBY they were additional pokemon to catch,in GSC you needed the appropiate wing to catch them and run across the regions to get the three dogs
Since 3rd gen,the legendaries have a huge part in the game plot(with DP being the most massive,with 4 in the same plot:Dialga/Palkia and the Psy-trio).
I liked that fact,because in previous games,you end up asking yourself"why the hell nobody except me tried to catch this thing before if it has always been here in the first place"??

Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: StarStorm on April 20, 2008, 12:14:37 AM
Too bad you lost your DS and Diamond...and i agree in some point with Gigan X3 about some of the new pokemon looking like crap.
The starters,some of the new evolutions(electivire,roserade,mismagius and honchkrow mainly),and totally new ones(like Starly,Shinx and Cranidos lines) are just the exceptions instead of the rule...i don`t know why they designed Lickilicky(Lickitung`s evolution) or Ambipom(aipom`s) like that...same with Magnezone(ton`s evo)...it`s ok,but it doesn`t look that good either...
The legendaries are cool looking most of them(excluding Shaymin,who is the mew,celebi and jirachi of 4th gen and Manaphy lines,that look horribly cute in a bad way)

I think Palkia and Dalgia look too simple, Sure Mewtwo is too simple looking too but you can see the character in him, Lucario has the same thing about the character, but Palkia and Dialga look rather bland...of course if you put them side by side with Cresselia then Cresselia wins the title of most crappy looking Legendary.
QFT...Cresselia looks horrible...a lunar "duck"??
I`ll chase it just because i`m bored and i`ll catch it either way
And Lucario?plz...they can`t give a non legendary pokemon a leading role in a movie(Besides ash`s Pikachu,but that`s the main one in the anime...)
Lucario is the most overrated pokemon ever,he even made it in Brawl instead of Mewtwo  >o:-(
Lately,game freak and nintendo have been giving more involvement in the storylines to the games legendary pokemons...in RBY they were additional pokemon to catch,in GSC you needed the appropiate wing to catch them and run across the regions to get the three dogs
Since 3rd gen,the legendaries have a huge part in the game plot(with DP being the most massive,with 4 in the same plot:Dialga/Palkia and the Psy-trio).
I liked that fact,because in previous games,you end up asking yourself"why the hell nobody except me tried to catch this thing before if it has always been here in the first place"??



I agree wholeheartedly. The whole legendaries-as-part-of-the-plot thing technically started in Crystal with Suicune and the legendary dogs, although it was more of a glorified side quest.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 20, 2008, 12:25:03 AM
Too bad you lost your DS and Diamond...and i agree in some point with Gigan X3 about some of the new pokemon looking like crap.
The starters,some of the new evolutions(electivire,roserade,mismagius and honchkrow mainly),and totally new ones(like Starly,Shinx and Cranidos lines) are just the exceptions instead of the rule...i don`t know why they designed Lickilicky(Lickitung`s evolution) or Ambipom(aipom`s) like that...same with Magnezone(ton`s evo)...it`s ok,but it doesn`t look that good either...
The legendaries are cool looking most of them(excluding Shaymin,who is the mew,celebi and jirachi of 4th gen and Manaphy lines,that look horribly cute in a bad way)

I think Palkia and Dalgia look too simple, Sure Mewtwo is too simple looking too but you can see the character in him, Lucario has the same thing about the character, but Palkia and Dialga look rather bland...of course if you put them side by side with Cresselia then Cresselia wins the title of most crappy looking Legendary.
QFT...Cresselia looks horrible...a lunar "duck"??
I`ll chase it just because i`m bored and i`ll catch it either way
And Lucario?plz...they can`t give a non legendary pokemon a leading role in a movie(Besides ash`s Pikachu,but that`s the main one in the anime...)
Lucario is the most overrated pokemon ever,he even made it in Brawl instead of Mewtwo  >o:-(
Lately,game freak and nintendo have been giving more involvement in the storylines to the games legendary pokemons...in RBY they were additional pokemon to catch,in GSC you needed the appropiate wing to catch them and run across the regions to get the three dogs
Since 3rd gen,the legendaries have a huge part in the game plot(with DP being the most massive,with 4 in the same plot:Dialga/Palkia and the Psy-trio).
I liked that fact,because in previous games,you end up asking yourself"why the hell nobody except me tried to catch this thing before if it has always been here in the first place"??

Well Yes, Lucario is overrated but I think both him and Mewtwo deserved to be in, this comming from someone who used to dislike him, I think he's fine now, Sakurai is an Idiot for replacing Mewtwo, dumbing down the game and wasting too much time in 1p mode...
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 20, 2008, 12:43:32 AM
Too bad you lost your DS and Diamond...and i agree in some point with Gigan X3 about some of the new pokemon looking like crap.
The starters,some of the new evolutions(electivire,roserade,mismagius and honchkrow mainly),and totally new ones(like Starly,Shinx and Cranidos lines) are just the exceptions instead of the rule...i don`t know why they designed Lickilicky(Lickitung`s evolution) or Ambipom(aipom`s) like that...same with Magnezone(ton`s evo)...it`s ok,but it doesn`t look that good either...
The legendaries are cool looking most of them(excluding Shaymin,who is the mew,celebi and jirachi of 4th gen and Manaphy lines,that look horribly cute in a bad way)

I think Palkia and Dalgia look too simple, Sure Mewtwo is too simple looking too but you can see the character in him, Lucario has the same thing about the character, but Palkia and Dialga look rather bland...of course if you put them side by side with Cresselia then Cresselia wins the title of most crappy looking Legendary.
QFT...Cresselia looks horrible...a lunar "duck"??
I`ll chase it just because i`m bored and i`ll catch it either way
And Lucario?plz...they can`t give a non legendary pokemon a leading role in a movie(Besides ash`s Pikachu,but that`s the main one in the anime...)
Lucario is the most overrated pokemon ever,he even made it in Brawl instead of Mewtwo  >o:-(
Lately,game freak and nintendo have been giving more involvement in the storylines to the games legendary pokemons...in RBY they were additional pokemon to catch,in GSC you needed the appropiate wing to catch them and run across the regions to get the three dogs
Since 3rd gen,the legendaries have a huge part in the game plot(with DP being the most massive,with 4 in the same plot:Dialga/Palkia and the Psy-trio).
I liked that fact,because in previous games,you end up asking yourself"why the hell nobody except me tried to catch this thing before if it has always been here in the first place"??

Well Yes, Lucario is overrated but I think both him and Mewtwo deserved to be in, this comming from someone who used to dislike him, I think he's fine now, Sakurai is an Idiot for replacing Mewtwo, dumbing down the game and wasting too much time in 1p mode...

well, it Is his fault for dubbing down his power in melee...if he had his fullpower then he could've made it in but the complaints from other people made mewtwo not get in brawl and sakurai heard about the complaints about mewtwo being weak and decided he wouldn't get in but still we all cant have nice things, right? :-??
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 20, 2008, 01:04:49 AM
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well, it Is his fault for dubbing down his power in melee...if he had his fullpower then he could've made it in but the complaints from other people made mewtwo not get in brawl and sakurai heard about the complaints about mewtwo being weak and decided he wouldn't get in but still we all cant have nice things, right?

Sakurai made him like that! He also made Lucario more Psychic like than Fighter Steel, what he should have been more, He could have been 10 times more awesome, same with Mewtwo, I actually think Sakurai has something against Pokémon, The Pokéballs suck balls now...He.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 20, 2008, 01:08:34 AM
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well, it Is his fault for dubbing down his power in melee...if he had his fullpower then he could've made it in but the complaints from other people made mewtwo not get in brawl and sakurai heard about the complaints about mewtwo being weak and decided he wouldn't get in but still we all cant have nice things, right?

Sakurai made him like that! He also made Lucario more Psychic like than Fighter Steel, what he should have been more, He could have been 10 times more awesome, same with Mewtwo, I actually think Sakurai has something against Pokémon, The Pokéballs suck balls now...He.

how is lucario exactly more psychic?

Lucario uses his fists, not with his mind ???
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 20, 2008, 01:11:52 AM
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well, it Is his fault for dubbing down his power in melee...if he had his fullpower then he could've made it in but the complaints from other people made mewtwo not get in brawl and sakurai heard about the complaints about mewtwo being weak and decided he wouldn't get in but still we all cant have nice things, right?

Sakurai made him like that! He also made Lucario more Psychic like than Fighter Steel, what he should have been more, He could have been 10 times more awesome, same with Mewtwo, I actually think Sakurai has something against Pokémon, The Pokéballs suck balls now...He.

how is lucario exactly more psychic?

Lucario uses his fists, not with his mind ???

Sure but most of the time you hit your opponents with Aura before you hit them with your fists or feet, hmm anyway this is getting a bit off topic... :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: BigJ on April 20, 2008, 02:09:17 AM
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well, it Is his fault for dubbing down his power in melee...if he had his fullpower then he could've made it in but the complaints from other people made mewtwo not get in brawl and sakurai heard about the complaints about mewtwo being weak and decided he wouldn't get in but still we all cant have nice things, right?

Sakurai made him like that! He also made Lucario more Psychic like than Fighter Steel, what he should have been more, He could have been 10 times more awesome, same with Mewtwo, I actually think Sakurai has something against Pokémon, The Pokéballs suck balls now...He.

how is lucario exactly more psychic?

Lucario uses his paws, not with his mind ???

lawl fixed

Holy crap I just realized how many legendaries there were in dp :o

Palkia
Dialga
Cresselia
Heatran
Regigigas
Darkrai
Little hedgehog thingy
Arcues

Wow... I'm probably forgetting one too.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on April 20, 2008, 02:16:23 AM
What I don't understand is that if one DS cart = one N64 cart, why can't Game Freak put more content into D/P? For me it felt like it was lacking something....(but that's just me)

 >:-(-| WHY THE f**k WON'T GAMEFREAK MAKE A SEQUEL TO DRILLDOZER!? >:( (lol)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 20, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
Gigan X3 is right again:since when a fighting type pokemon(except medicham who is part psychic) can use the "Psychic" attack??Lucario in fact has a slighty stronger special attack that physical attack(that contradicts the fight-steel combo,as most of those moves are physical)
I agree that the DS games could potentially have the graphics of a N64 game(Super Mario 64 DS version anyone??)
But keep in mind that all the game with major 3d graphics were made 100% by Nintendo(Mario games,Metroid),while the rest was made by affiliates(game freak,the company that makes the kirby games,etc)
And Big J,you have missed Giratina(the third dragon along with Dialga and Palkia) a real tank...an the tiny hedgehog is named Shaymin.Those two will be the main in the latest pokemon movie from what i`ve heard(i`ve only seen the first 3 and the 10th one)
Anyway,in my personal opinion,i liked the new gadgets in DP(mainly the radar,the improved itemfinder and the explorer kit),as most of them really help you during the game(why there`s a calendar or a coin toss?Still can`t find something useful for those [-X )
 >:-(-| DrillDozer looks interesting with that drill thingy...it turned out good right?
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 20, 2008, 07:51:15 PM
is it just me or does Darkrai look like an emo kid :P
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k169/cheeky2000/lah-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 20, 2008, 07:53:57 PM
you are not the only one who thought that...when i watched the movie Darkrai stars,more than one pointed that out at the end of it
anyway,it doesn`t look bad at all it`s better that than Shaymin :-??
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on April 20, 2008, 07:56:17 PM
 >:-(-|Drill Dozer was kinda easy. (it got harder though on Hard) But the story and core gameplay was phenomenal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 20, 2008, 10:42:37 PM
is it just me or does Darkrai look like an emo kid :P
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k169/cheeky2000/lah-1.jpg)

Another piece of crap Pokémon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: MirageAtoli on April 20, 2008, 11:00:38 PM
I feel sorry for the female Mr. Mime.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 21, 2008, 02:28:19 AM
is it just me or does Darkrai look like an emo kid :P
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k169/cheeky2000/lah-1.jpg)

Another piece of crap Pokémon.
:o you think hescrap, i think Darkrai is an awesome pokemon
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 21, 2008, 10:48:23 AM
is it just me or does Darkrai look like an emo kid :P
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k169/cheeky2000/lah-1.jpg)

Another piece of crap Pokémon.
:o you think hescrap, i think Darkrai is an awesome pokemon

me too :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Lightsworn on April 21, 2008, 01:07:42 PM
Stat and moveset wise, Darkrai is a extremely versatile Pokemon, hence why he is uber.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 21, 2008, 01:14:02 PM
As a matter of fact,the pokemon called Darkrai would be the embodiment of darkness,as well as becoming the first dark type uber in pokemon games
He`s not that versatile in fact...take Darkrai Dark void and it`s pretty much useless...the combination of Dark Void+Nightmare+Bad Dreams ability allows Darkrai to chunk out 75% of your pokemon`s HP in two turns(unless you have insomnia,why assures a win)
 
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 21, 2008, 02:06:49 PM
i think hes versitile for the fact he cant learn both Spacial Rend and Roar of Time for a dark pokemon, moveset all you need are those dragon moves, dark void and either dream eater or nightmare. Darkrai stats are impressive, his speed and special attack are super deadly and for a dark pokemon his defenses arent all that bad. I like my movie darkrai and ofcourse i dont use him(that much) but i dont think hes useless, hes actaully handy in 2v2, dark void and both opponents are alseep, then you just have your other pokemon beatdown while they are alseep
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 28, 2008, 05:16:40 PM
Bumping for justice...anyway,who do you think is the best non-uber pokemon that the 4th generation brought us?
In my opinion it`s Empoleon:Steel+Water=Win in my book as it has resistances on most of the 17 types,being neutral to fire and grass,and weak to elect,ground and fight,and that can be solved with another pokemon
Pick you bests from this new game! :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on April 28, 2008, 05:19:22 PM
inb4AurasaysLucario.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Lightsworn on April 28, 2008, 06:07:36 PM
Bumping for justice...anyway,who do you think is the best non-uber pokemon that the 4th generation brought us?
In my opinion it`s Empoleon:Steel+Water=Win in my book as it has resistances on most of the 17 types,being neutral to fire and grass,and weak to elect,ground and fight,and that can be solved with another pokemon
Pick you bests from this new game! :)

Tie between Hippowdon and garchomp, both have saved my @$$ many times.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: StarStorm on April 28, 2008, 06:46:12 PM
Bumping for justice...anyway,who do you think is the best non-uber pokemon that the 4th generation brought us?
In my opinion it`s Empoleon:Steel+Water=Win in my book as it has resistances on most of the 17 types,being neutral to fire and grass,and weak to elect,ground and fight,and that can be solved with another pokemon
Pick you bests from this new game! :)

I'd probably have to say Garchomp. His high base Attack and Speed stat ALONE are enough to make people fear him.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 06:55:04 PM
Lucario.

steel/fighting type is awesome. Lucario can even do a dragon pulse and a dark pulse attack which is win in my book :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 28, 2008, 07:35:15 PM
This Guy:
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8921/garchomprt8.jpg)

It's not like if the Uber Pokémon are that cool either.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 07:50:49 PM
This Guy:
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8921/garchomprt8.jpg)

It's not like if the Uber Pokémon are that cool either.

well, my friend says a its a rip-off of sceptile >o:-( that garchomp could slice and dice that plant dino to ribbons \-/o
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 28, 2008, 07:57:21 PM
This Guy:
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8921/garchomprt8.jpg)

It's not like if the Uber Pokémon are that cool either.

well, my friend says a its a rip-off of sceptile >o:-( that garchomp could slice and dice that plant dino to ribbons \-/o

Sceptile sucks, Groovile is Cool though, A "tree" as a tail? Not cool. Leaves as "Wings"? Uh Huh. ;*))
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 08:06:46 PM
This Guy:
(http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8921/garchomprt8.jpg)

It's not like if the Uber Pokémon are that cool either.

well, my friend says a its a rip-off of sceptile >o:-( that garchomp could slice and dice that plant dino to ribbons \-/o

Sceptile sucks, Groovile is Cool though, A "tree" as a tail? Not cool. Leaves as "Wings"? Uh Huh. ;*))


well, the leaves are used for cutting but I agree, sceptile does suck :|
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 28, 2008, 08:10:53 PM
In because you talked trash about Sceptile,who is one of my beloved pokemon(first starter in the third gen i used)
He`s fast as hell and has great special attack overall...i doubt that Garchomp could take a Dragon Pulse from Sceptile without a scratch(currently i`m catching Heatran at Stark Mountain for my little sister)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Lightsworn on April 28, 2008, 08:12:13 PM
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Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 08:13:05 PM
In because you talked trash about Sceptile,who is one of my beloved pokemon(first starter in the third gen i used)
He`s fast as hell and has great special attack overall...i doubt that Garchomp could take a Dragon Pulse from Sceptile without a scratch(currently i`m catching Heatran at Stark Mountain for my little sister)

sorry about that :|
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 28, 2008, 08:56:44 PM
Not a problem...i actually think that Lucario is the most overrated pokemon since Mewtwo,but i`m not saying that even the now underdog Blaziken can tear him apart...oops,did i typed that... ;*))(JK,Lucario is ok,but still OR)
Heatran Caught!i got a lucky frozen status with ice fang and stayed in his duskball! :D
lol,Sceptile Sub-seeding ownage...Umbreon couldn`t even break it! :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 28, 2008, 09:22:58 PM
Lucario sux, hes so over rated> The best pokemon of the forth generation hands down is Garchomp, solid defenses, pretty good hp, great attack and speed, Garchomp would destroy Lucario as if it was nothing

Sceptile was better in the 3rd gen when moves like leaf blade, crunch, dragon claw and the punches were special, but you can still work a decent sp atk Sceptile or a sword dancer sceptile which i have :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 28, 2008, 09:24:05 PM
In because you talked trash about Sceptile,who is one of my beloved pokemon(first starter in the third gen i used)
He`s fast as hell and has great special attack overall...i doubt that Garchomp could take a Dragon Pulse from Sceptile without a scratch(currently i`m catching Heatran at Stark Mountain for my little sister)

No Way in hell can he stand a chance against Sceptile, Water against Grass? Be my guess.

He looks cooler. ;*))

edit: Wait he's Ground, that's still a lacks advantage against grass though. :-[ :P

edit2:  what the hell Sceptile looks much better in there like a raptor and Lucario looks much worse, like really stiff like a doll. ???
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 09:39:15 PM
Lucario sux, hes so over rated> The best pokemon of the forth generation hands down is Garchomp, solid defenses, pretty good hp, great attack and speed, Garchomp would destroy Lucario as if it was nothing

Sceptile was better in the 3rd gen when moves like leaf blade, crunch, dragon claw and the punches were special, but you can still work a decent sp atk Sceptile or a sword dancer sceptile which i have :P

you could've just said lucario sux,in my opinion 8=|
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 28, 2008, 09:41:23 PM
I really like Garchomp of course...he looks like he`s looking for food at anytime(that DA art posted before is awesome)
Even tough his main moves changed to physical,Sceptile can play good either as physical or special attacker :)

Lucario has a weird typing,as fellow fighter will kill him off at the first chance...but let`s not forget he can potentially shut them down with psychic o.O#
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 09:44:59 PM
I really like Garchomp of course...he looks like he`s looking for food at anytime(that DA art posted before is awesome)
Even tough his main moves changed to physical,Sceptile can play good either as physical or special attacker :)

Lucario has a weird typing,as fellow fighter will kill him off at the first chance...but let`s not forget he can potentially shut them down with psychic o.O#


and thats the good thing about him :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 28, 2008, 10:06:24 PM
In because you talked trash about Sceptile,who is one of my beloved pokemon(first starter in the third gen i used)
He`s fast as hell and has great special attack overall...i doubt that Garchomp could take a Dragon Pulse from Sceptile without a scratch(currently i`m catching Heatran at Stark Mountain for my little sister)

No Way in hell can he stand a chance against Sceptile, Water against Grass? Be my guess.

He looks cooler. ;*))

edit: Wait he's Ground, that's still a lacks advantage against grass though. :-[ :P

edit2:  what the hell Sceptile looks much better in there like a raptor and Lucario looks much worse, like really stiff like a doll. ???
Garchomp can learn fire fang, and against scpetiles extremely poor defense it would go down first
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 28, 2008, 10:08:45 PM
Lucario sux, hes so over rated> The best pokemon of the forth generation hands down is Garchomp, solid defenses, pretty good hp, great attack and speed, Garchomp would destroy Lucario as if it was nothing

Sceptile was better in the 3rd gen when moves like leaf blade, crunch, dragon claw and the punches were special, but you can still work a decent sp atk Sceptile or a sword dancer sceptile which i have :P

you could've just said lucario sux,in my opinion 8=|

Betcha have heard that a million times. :P

Garchomp can learn fire fang, and against scpetiles extremely poor defense it would go down first

Uh? I don't have D/P so I didn't know that. ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 28, 2008, 10:12:14 PM
I really like Garchomp of course...he looks like he`s looking for food at anytime(that DA art posted before is awesome)
Even tough his main moves changed to physical,Sceptile can play good either as physical or special attacker :)

Lucario has a weird typing,as fellow fighter will kill him off at the first chance...but let`s not forget he can potentially shut them down with psychic o.O#


and thats the good thing about him :)
even if Luario can hit Pyschic, theres 2 things that stop it for meaning a comeback, that fact that he doesnt get a stab for it or he doesnt pack a punch from other users like Espeon and Alakazam, even Gengar hits harder with Pyschic, and the fact that most Fighting types have decent Sp.Def stats like all 3 Hitmons, and Machamp

Also lets not forget that Gallade is Pyschic and Fighting so even if Lucario hit psychic it would do nothing, so basically Gallade is Lucarios worst nightmare
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 10:18:04 PM
I really like Garchomp of course...he looks like he`s looking for food at anytime(that DA art posted before is awesome)
Even tough his main moves changed to physical,Sceptile can play good either as physical or special attacker :)

Lucario has a weird typing,as fellow fighter will kill him off at the first chance...but let`s not forget he can potentially shut them down with psychic o.O#


and thats the good thing about him :)
even if Luario can hit Pyschic, theres 2 things that stop it for meaning a comeback, that fact that he doesnt get a stab for it or he doesnt pack a punch from other users like Espeon and Alakazam, even Gengar hits harder with Pyschic, and the fact that most Fighting types have decent Sp.Def stats like all 3 Hitmons, and Machamp

Also lets not forget that Gallade is Pyschic and Fighting so even if Lucario hit psychic it would do nothing, so basically Gallade is Lucarios worst nightmare

yeah, I guess but gallade is also one of my favorite pokemon too :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 28, 2008, 11:29:08 PM
Yeah,Gallade is the Kirlia evolution made for male ppl,as Gardevoir has a more classy and female style :-??
And Gyarados is not one of the best ones of all...at level 51 he was able to sweep the champion`s team after 5 dragon dances(thx to Spiritomb and Milotic  :D )
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 28, 2008, 11:36:26 PM
Yeah,Gallade is the Kirlia evolution made for male ppl,as Gardevoir has a more classy and female style :-??
And Gyarados is not one of the best ones of all...at level 51 he was able to sweep the champion`s team after 5 dragon dances(thx to Spiritomb and Milotic  :D )

something crazy I thought of but I think there is actually a glitch which allows a FEMALE kirlia evolve into...A FEMALE GALLADE :o :o

yeah, I think there really is a glitch like that
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 29, 2008, 12:23:01 AM
lol wut??impossible!
there`s an easy glitch that let`s you know what`s the nature of an egg :-??
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 29, 2008, 01:20:25 AM
lol wut??impossible!
there`s an easy glitch that let`s you know what`s the nature of an egg :-??

really!? :o

never knew that o.O#
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Legend Inc. on April 29, 2008, 05:19:54 PM
when diamond and pearl came out i was disappointed at the pokemon

it was like as if the pokemon design team just gave up and the pokemon company decided to hire 8 year olds draw pokemon for them

Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Gigan X3 on April 29, 2008, 06:14:21 PM
when diamond and pearl came out i was disappointed at the pokemon

it was like as if the pokemon design team just gave up and the pokemon company decided to hire 8 year olds draw pokemon for them



Glad I'm not the only one who noticed, a few exceptions seem to be as if the old team did a small ammount of Pokémon then ran out of ideas and left the team.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 29, 2008, 11:56:35 PM
keep in mind that designing almost 500 different creatures is not an easy task...(note that the 500th pokemon should be a second evo starter if my calculations are correct)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: ATiC3 on April 30, 2008, 12:36:55 AM
I think after Pokemon Emerald..... they were done.. but no.. they had to make that Dungeon Mystery Team crap.. and now.. Diamond and Pearl... I mean.. wtf.. stop making Pokemon games.. whoever's making the new ones.. they're so stupid..
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: BigJ on April 30, 2008, 12:42:08 AM
I think after Pokemon Emerald..... they were done.. but no.. they had to make that Dungeon Mystery Team crap.. and now.. Diamond and Pearl... I mean.. wtf.. stop making Pokemon games.. whoever's making the new ones.. they're so stupid..

lol, thats not a very wise decision, business wise. I mean they're making so much money from these games. Why would they suddenly stop? Same thing with movies, shows, food and music. That comment right there is pretty much:

"I think Pokemon is a kids game, they should stop making it cause I don't like it."
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 30, 2008, 01:03:20 AM
I think after Pokemon Emerald..... they were done.. but no.. they had to make that Dungeon Mystery Team crap.. and now.. Diamond and Pearl... I mean.. wtf.. stop making Pokemon games.. whoever's making the new ones.. they're so stupid..

you know...seriously. thats what I hate about people who say pokemon should stop

cause for instance, I always collected all of the pokemon games that goes to show of how much I am a fan of it

hell, I dont even care if they made more newer pokemon and people say it would be crap but I wouldn't. they're games rock, 'nuff said

also, there is a lot of fans that have a great imagination and create their own pokemon and they are called "Fakemon"
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on April 30, 2008, 01:47:20 PM
yep,there´s ppl who go even further ,creating hackroms to change the original games to diff scenarios(like the awesome Pokemon Shiny Gold-a pokemon gold remake for GBA)or add difficulty(with Pokemon Dragons Emerald hack and Shiny Gold X)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on April 30, 2008, 02:15:39 PM
yep,there´s ppl who go even further ,creating hackroms to change the original games to diff scenarios(like the awesome Pokemon Shiny Gold-a pokemon gold remake for GBA)or add difficulty(with Pokemon Dragons Emerald hack and Shiny Gold X)

I've seen youtube videos of those

sometimes they make parodys of it or make it super cool ;D

(wishes that gold and silver was re-made for GBA and DS :()
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on April 30, 2008, 11:30:46 PM
yep,there´s ppl who go even further ,creating hackroms to change the original games to diff scenarios(like the awesome Pokemon Shiny Gold-a pokemon gold remake for GBA)or add difficulty(with Pokemon Dragons Emerald hack and Shiny Gold X)

I've seen youtube videos of those

sometimes they make parodys of it or make it super cool ;D

(wishes that gold and silver was re-made for GBA and DS :()
well your wishes are gonna come true, there are 3 new pokemon games comming out: Pokemon Opal(Giratina Cover), New Gold and New Silver versions
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: Aura-Master on May 01, 2008, 12:03:11 AM
yep,there´s ppl who go even further ,creating hackroms to change the original games to diff scenarios(like the awesome Pokemon Shiny Gold-a pokemon gold remake for GBA)or add difficulty(with Pokemon Dragons Emerald hack and Shiny Gold X)

I've seen youtube videos of those

sometimes they make parodys of it or make it super cool ;D

(wishes that gold and silver was re-made for GBA and DS :()
well your wishes are gonna come true, there are 3 new pokemon games comming out: Pokemon Opal(Giratina Cover), New Gold and New Silver versions

WHAT!? REALLY!? :o :o :o :o

*LAUGHS IN A HAPPY CRAZY WAY*

YES!!!THANK F***ING GOD!!! YES!!! F*** YES!!!

sorry about that :P pokefan overload LOL :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on May 01, 2008, 12:40:39 AM
i knew about giratina´s but are you sure about g/s remakes?i really want that to happen,as they did the same with red/green/blue...that should reduce even more the migration process  :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: megaman781 on May 01, 2008, 03:27:04 AM
yeah for me the best versions where gold and silver, i just fell in love with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on May 01, 2008, 01:57:34 PM
yeah for me the best versions where gold and silver, i just fell in love with it.
Pokemon Gold was the first pokemon game i played...i still have my save game from my GBC rom...i was such a noob those days! :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 01, 2008, 06:49:46 PM
i knew about giratina´s but are you sure about g/s remakes?i really want that to happen,as they did the same with red/green/blue...that should reduce even more the migration process  :)
100% positive, they will come out after Pokemon Opal
Title: Re: Pokemon Games discussion:Love them or hate them...
Post by: KPT25 on May 01, 2008, 07:46:12 PM
i knew about giratina´s but are you sure about g/s remakes?i really want that to happen,as they did the same with red/green/blue...that should reduce even more the migration process  :)
100% positive, they will come out after Pokemon Opal
Good to know...now i can get Lugia and Ho-oh with my DS emulator in a near future :thumbsup:
that game was too good not to be re-made...the 16 gyms is a thing that nobody can resist
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: StarStorm on May 01, 2008, 09:50:34 PM
Apparently, GameFreak trademarked the names DawnGold and DuskSilver recently... And In Diamond and Pearl, if you have Action Replay, you could hack it so that your pokemon were met in Johto. So the chances of a G/S Remake?






Pretty damn likely.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 01, 2008, 09:57:03 PM
Wow...thx for that info Starstorm,you even hinted the names of the games :)

Changing subject:How many of you have seen/captured a shiny pokemon(diff colored one)?
I got a Nuzleaf in a gba hack rom(still valid as i got all normal colored ones) and a shiny bibarel in my pokemon diamond.
What about the rest of you?
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: StarStorm on May 01, 2008, 10:02:24 PM
Wow...thx for that info Starstorm,you even hinted the names of the games :)

Changing subject:How many of you have seen/captured a shiny pokemon(diff colored one)?
I got a Nuzleaf in a gba hack rom(still valid as i got all normal colored ones) and a shiny bibarel in my pokemon diamond.
What about the rest of you?


Ironically enough, I just hatched a Shiny Charmander yesterday. :)

Too bad his stats suck... :(
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 01, 2008, 11:45:26 PM
lucky! :o you could trade it in for something interesting in the GTS...shiny starters might have a good value... :-??
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 02, 2008, 03:25:51 AM
i have a few shinies thanx to swarming, i have Slaking, Metagross, Absol, Magnetric, Magnezone, and Gengar(which when i saw i had to catch)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 02, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
well,compared to you,i`m of course just a noob in chaining and shinies...but eventually i`ll polish the technique and get the shinies i want *dreams of a shiny beldum @-)*
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Legend Inc. on May 02, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
what was your favorite pokemon season??

mine is definately the original season
hands down
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 02, 2008, 10:18:17 PM
Mine should be the first one,yeah...more classy and old school,even tough the anime has always been kinda the same thing
My fave parts were the gyms and the pokemon leagues
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 03, 2008, 02:44:48 AM
looking back on it and the tv was crap, the rules of the game never applied to the show which made me so  \-/o the only good part was James cuz hes hilarious
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Aura-Master on May 03, 2008, 04:04:15 AM
looking back on it and the tv was crap, the rules of the game never applied to the show which made me so  \-/o the only good part was James cuz hes hilarious

well, the action on that made me think that pokemon should have gameplay like on the tv but thats my opinion
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 03, 2008, 12:47:29 PM
But that has been changing recently in the pokemon anime from what i´ve seen(there seems to no longer be an unlimited amount of attacks avail)
f*k that,Pikachu defeated Brock´s Onix with Thunderbolt,even though Onix is immune to electric attacks!
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Aura-Master on May 03, 2008, 01:22:07 PM
But that has been changing recently in the pokemon anime from what i´ve seen(there seems to no longer be an unlimited amount of attacks avail)
f*k that,Pikachu defeated Brock´s Onix with Thunderbolt

thats what I like about the shows.

its the kind of thing I love :w00t:
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 03, 2008, 03:47:59 PM
But that has been changing recently in the pokemon anime from what i´ve seen(there seems to no longer be an unlimited amount of attacks avail)
f*k that,Pikachu defeated Brock´s Onix with Thunderbolt,even though Onix is immune to electric attacks!
thats what i was thinking, theres so many moments when weakness and immunities done even apply
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 03, 2008, 04:40:35 PM
Apparently now they do,i remember a scene(from the Darkrai movie,yes...i saw it because i was bored) and Pikachu`s Thunderbolt didn`t do a thing to a Torterra(Ground/Grass)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Aura-Master on May 03, 2008, 04:58:24 PM
Apparently now they do,i remember a scene(from the Darkrai movie,yes...i saw it because i was bored) and Pikachu`s Thunderbolt didn`t do a thing to a Torterra(Ground/Grass)


yeah, I kinda felt glad they stuck to the type advantages/disadvantages rule now :w00t:
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 03, 2008, 06:47:25 PM
But that has been changing recently in the pokemon anime from what i´ve seen(there seems to no longer be an unlimited amount of attacks avail)
f*k that,Pikachu defeated Brock´s Onix with Thunderbolt

thats what I like about the shows.

its the kind of thing I love :w00t:

I think that sucks as it strays away from what makes the Pokémon games more fun, I've Seen Typhlosion and Charizard get beat in the anime with a Fire Attack and Some Rock Type Pokémon taking an Ocean of Water and not even flinch. Bull.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on May 03, 2008, 07:14:08 PM
But that has been changing recently in the pokemon anime from what i´ve seen(there seems to no longer be an unlimited amount of attacks avail)
f*k that,Pikachu defeated Brock´s Onix with Thunderbolt

thats what I like about the shows.

its the kind of thing I love :w00t:

I think that sucks as it strays away from what makes the Pokémon games more fun, I've Seen Typhlosion and Charizard get beat in the anime with a Fire Attack and Some Rock Type Pokémon taking an Ocean of Water and not even flinch. Bull.

Pokemon show != Pokemon games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 03, 2008, 07:53:43 PM
Yeah...it went a little offtopic...again  o.O#
Well,coming back to the games,do you think that in pokemon opal they will mention anything about Giratina`s different forms??Because i heard that at the 11th movie,that pokemon has an alternative form  :-??

Following for the last time the  >:-(-|:
Come on...Charizard getting damaged/burnt by Will-o-Wisp??That´s one giant WFT,considering Will-o-Wisp doesn`t cause any damage and doesn`t burn fire types(even some of them get powered up,like certain ponytas,houndoom or heatran) 8=|
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 03, 2008, 08:06:32 PM
I didn't care for anything after red/blue/green/yellow aka first gen.

I guess that's just me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 03, 2008, 10:28:44 PM
I didn't care for anything after red/blue/green/yellow aka first gen.

I guess that's just me.

Not even Gold/Silver/Crystal a little. :(

It's the best generation...It has the New content plus most of the old content. :|
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Legend Inc. on May 03, 2008, 11:21:20 PM
i have only owned every pokemon hand held up to crystal

after that i was i grew up a bit and focused on like...halo
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 04, 2008, 02:52:17 AM
Yeah...it went a little offtopic...again  o.O#
Well,coming back to the games,do you think that in pokemon opal they will mention anything about Giratina`s different forms??Because i heard that at the 11th movie,that pokemon has an alternative form :-??
thats the whole point of the new game, because Giratina is the main focus of the game
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: The Notic on May 04, 2008, 02:55:45 AM
Is there gonna be a third game, like there was for emerald... I dont like that third pokemon...
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on May 04, 2008, 03:08:15 AM
Yes, Daigo. There's ALWAYS a third game. Nintendo has trademarked a bunch of names already, and a few of them look like names for the next series. (which seems pretty early)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: The Notic on May 04, 2008, 03:24:13 AM
Yes, Daigo. There's ALWAYS a third game. Nintendo has trademarked a bunch of names already, and a few of them look like names for the next series. (which seems pretty early)

I don't like the third Poke'mon, it's ugly, Palkia all the wasy baby! Will it have new fetures, emerald did, kinda sorta... but whats the point of having 2 then later on the third? Is it just to get people to buy one of the first 2 then the second, I see no point in there being a 3rd one all the time!
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 04, 2008, 04:28:23 AM
I didn't care for anything after red/blue/green/yellow aka first gen.

I guess that's just me.

Not even Gold/Silver/Crystal a little. :(

It's the best generation...It has the New content plus most of the old content. :|
The only pokemon I liked in 2nd gen was Suicune. I remember chasing that bastard everywhere though.  >:(
It felt like I was stalking the legendary Pokemon instead of trying to catch it.

The only other Pokemon game I can say I truly enjoyed after 1st gen would be Colosseum for the gamecube, because it had a good story, and the music kind of reminded me somehow of FFVII, to me Colosseum is the style Pokemon games need, except they should make it more free roaming like the gameboy games.
Sadly I haven't played the sequel P:GoD
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 04, 2008, 02:24:06 PM
You`re right on that VKM: Pokemon needs a good RPG game in 3d like Colloseum or XD...a good story and also,cool features.
@Kid Daigo:ppl without Wi-fi who cannot trade will appreciate having Dialga and Palkia in the same game,as well as Giratina on their boxes
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 04, 2008, 02:47:14 PM
I didn't care for anything after red/blue/green/yellow aka first gen.

I guess that's just me.

Not even Gold/Silver/Crystal a little. :(

It's the best generation...It has the New content plus most of the old content. :|
The only pokemon I liked in 2nd gen was Suicune. I remember chasing that bastard everywhere though.  >:(
It felt like I was stalking the legendary Pokemon instead of trying to catch it.

The only other Pokemon game I can say I truly enjoyed after 1st gen would be Colosseum for the gamecube, because it had a good story, and the music kind of reminded me somehow of FFVII, to me Colosseum is the style Pokemon games need, except they should make it more free roaming like the gameboy games.
Sadly I haven't played the sequel P:GoD

Gales of Darkness XD is WAY better than Colosseum to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Aura-Master on May 04, 2008, 05:12:27 PM
I didn't care for anything after red/blue/green/yellow aka first gen.

I guess that's just me.

Not even Gold/Silver/Crystal a little. :(

It's the best generation...It has the New content plus most of the old content. :|
The only pokemon I liked in 2nd gen was Suicune. I remember chasing that bastard everywhere though.  >:(
It felt like I was stalking the legendary Pokemon instead of trying to catch it.

The only other Pokemon game I can say I truly enjoyed after 1st gen would be Colosseum for the gamecube, because it had a good story, and the music kind of reminded me somehow of FFVII, to me Colosseum is the style Pokemon games need, except they should make it more free roaming like the gameboy games.
Sadly I haven't played the sequel P:GoD

Gales of Darkness XD is WAY better than Colosseum to me.

+1  :w00t:
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 04, 2008, 07:57:56 PM
That Story about chasing the legendary beasts,reminds me about the time i didn`t save when i randomly encounter Entei at Palette Town after i finished my Leaf Green Elite 4 for the first time(didn`t take the next challenge yet,i got lucky the first time)
I forgot to bring a Mean Looker and a sleeper,and totally forgot i still had my master ball,so i let him go.
After that i forgot to save,and he didn`t appear again anymore since them...why i had to forget pressing shift+F1 in my emulator! \-/o
Anyway,i`m happy because while digging underground i got an old ambar and a dome fossil,who turn into Aerodactyl and Kabuto(in diamond they are very rare to find)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Negi Springfield on May 06, 2008, 08:00:47 AM
hmmmm
My favorite Pokemon
of all time
whould have to be either Marowak or Scyther
I just always liked the Samurai-esq of those 2
The last game I played was Pokemon: Shiney Gold (Fire Red, hacked to be PKMN Gold)
very diffrent then the original and felt much like more like the show
you have like 3 diffrent rivals you face very often!
lol!
it's very exciting
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 06, 2008, 04:05:04 PM
hmmmm
My favorite Pokemon
of all time
whould have to be either Marowak or Scyther
I just always liked the Samurai-esq of those 2
The last game I played was Pokemon: Shiney Gold (Fire Red, hacked to be PKMN Gold)
very diffrent then the original and felt much like more like the show
you have like 3 diffrent rivals you face very often!
lol!
it's very exciting


My Top 10 are:

1)Mewtwo
2)Typhlosion
3)Scyther
4)Groudon
5)Deoxys
6)Lugia
7)Tyranitar
8)Nidoking
9)Aggron
10)Steelix

3 From 1st Gen.
4 from 2nd Gen.
3 From 3rd Gen.

I was Extremely dissapointed with the 4th Gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 06, 2008, 08:44:27 PM
Here are mine:
1-Empoleon
2-Metagross
3-Aggron
4-Mewtwo
5-Charizard
6-Gengar
7-Thyphlosion
8-Blastoise
9-Gyarados
10-Luxray

No particular order(except empoleon who is top 3)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 06, 2008, 08:56:51 PM
Here are mine:
1-Empoleon
2-Metagross
3-Aggron
4-Mewtwo
5-Charizard
6-Gengar
7-Thyphlosion
8-Blastoise
9-Gyarados
10-Luxray

No particular order(except empoleon who is top 3)

You're the 1st person that I have met to have Empoleon in it's Top 3. ;*))
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 06, 2008, 09:03:37 PM
come one...you gotta love that big penguin...he can take a blow or two of both fire and grass,the rest are all resistances(except for ground,electric and fighting)  =D>
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 06, 2008, 09:24:25 PM
come one...you gotta love that big penguin...he can take a blow or two of both fire and grass,the rest are all resistances(except for ground,electric and fighting)  =D>


It's all about the looks when it comes to me. Yes I'm superficial, but only when it comes to Fictional Characters, Don't worry.

When it comes to the starters here's my Favorite's List:

Fire:
1-Typhlosion
2-Charizard
3-Blaziken
4-Infernape

Grass:
1-Sceptile( I know that I bashed him but it's not like if the others are that cool either )
2-Venusaur
3-Meganium
4-Torterra

Water:
1-Blastoise
2-Feraligatr
3-Swampert
4-Empoleon

 ;*))
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 06, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
I have it tied between Empoleon and Swampert in best starters in my opinion(but i like the other water ones too)
In fire,i will go for Thy first,and Charizard in a close second,3rd Blaziken and 4th the Monkey(i hate him...overrated)
Grass:Sceptile,Venasaur,Torterra,Meganium
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: BigJ on May 07, 2008, 12:54:29 AM
Top 10?

1.Zapdos
2.Grovyle
3.Rotom
4.Typhlosion
5.Farfetch'd
6.Dugtrio
7.Hariyama
8.Lapras
9.Muk
10.Ludicolo
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gigan X3 on May 07, 2008, 01:45:25 AM
I have it tied between Empoleon and Swampert in best starters in my opinion(but i like the other water ones too)
In fire,i will go for Thy first,and Charizard in a close second,3rd Blaziken and 4th the Monkey(i hate him...overrated)
Grass:Sceptile,Venasaur,Torterra,Meganium


That Monkey is overrated indeed....Piece of Crap.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 07, 2008, 02:11:34 PM
My top have to be(not including ubers):
1-Garchomp
2-Tyranitar
3-Manectric
4-Weavile
5-Salamence
6-Feraligatr
7-Electivire
8-Scpetile
9-Gengar
10-Metagross

Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 10, 2008, 11:20:56 AM
New thing to discuss:
What´s the hardest battle you had in any pokemon game?
Mine has to be Red(ash) in Pokemon G/S/C...lv81 Pikachu  :o
I never had the chance yet to face Steven in Emerald,his levels are arround upper 70´s,so he´s even tougher than when he was a champion...

EDIT:I found the way to battle without having a DS!
Introducing...Shoddy battle.
It`s a simulator that allows you to test play a pokemon team...you can set item,IV,EV and natures as you wish for any pokemon available so far...
http://shoddybattle.com/
It`s java app based,so in some pc`s it might take a while to load...


Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gaijin on May 13, 2008, 06:24:33 PM
wouldnt mew be the best and most strongest pokemon ever since it has the dna of every single pokemon in the world and i believe that includes the new ones too. I remember watching mew vs mewtwo in that movie and personally i think mew was playing with mewtwo cuz mewtwo was getting upset with mew for not fighting back at full power if i remember right.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Whoblehwah on May 13, 2008, 07:37:32 PM
I havn't played pokemon in a really long time. My friend keeps telling me to try "Shiney Gold" on my psp but I don't want to. Those games are too damn addictive. My favorite pokemon (in no specific order) are:

Dragonite
Nidoking
Rhydon
Khageskan (however you spell it)
Venesaur (however you spell it)
Gyaridos

Thats all I can remember, lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 13, 2008, 09:24:42 PM
Mew can learn ANY attack...and by any,i mean any...he can transform into any other pokemon that existed so far(and probably that will exist in 5th generation)
After the forums went down nobody posted here(and practically anywhere)

New discussion:What was your biggest achievement in a pokemon game?
Mine was getting a Shiny Bibarel in Diamond and a Nuzleaf in a Hack rom Pokemon Shiny Gold(remake of pokemon gold for GBA:awesome rom)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Whoblehwah on May 13, 2008, 10:23:46 PM
Mew can learn ANY attack...and by any,i mean any...he can transform into any other pokemon that existed so far(and probably that will exist in 5th generation)
After the forums went down nobody posted here(and practically anywhere)

New discussion:What was your biggest achievement in a pokemon game?
Mine was getting a Shiny Bibarel in Diamond and a Nuzleaf in a Hack rom Pokemon Shiny Gold(remake of pokemon gold for GBA:awesome rom)

I caught a golden magicarp once in Pokemon Emerald I think. I traded it to my leaf green and evolved it to a red gyaridos. I always hear that shiney gold is awesome, lol. Maybe I'll play it in the summer since I've NEVER played gold or silver.
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 14, 2008, 10:41:19 AM
In the latest version of Shiny Gold(i have it patched already if you want it drop me a PM) you will have the chance to get a shiny pokemon in the storyline...
Anyway,congrats on finding that shiny magikarp :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gaijin on May 14, 2008, 01:28:58 PM
i cant keep up with all those new pokemon nowadays. I still play fricking blue yellow and red version and use that cheat to catch mews and lv 300 and sumthin mewtwos. Trust i dont even try to fight him. I just throw the master balls and and catch him and store them in the computer at the center. Anyone that batlles me lol is in for surprises
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 14, 2008, 02:27:57 PM
come on...they are not that much...they are just 493 different species available,and most of them belong to the evolutions of the basic ones... 8=|
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gaijin on May 15, 2008, 01:33:35 PM
i mean lv 300 mewtwos. there is a cheat that allows you to catch that a mewtwo at that lv. the missingno cheat is what i used to do it with on the blue version. and depepnding on the letters in your name it determines the pokemon you will meet and at what lv. i also used that glitch to catch mew
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 15, 2008, 01:49:38 PM
yeah...i remember ppl getting lv 144 wild pokemon...so sick and yet broken... :DxDie
this topic is pretty much dead right now...
I have some news

The next game will be called Pokemon Platinum
it will star Giratina as the main pokemon,with an alternative form as seen in the latest pokemon movie
Shaymin and Regigas are said to have different forms as well in the game...and they seem to have more changes(maybe gym leader like in R/S/E??)
more info here:
http://serebii.net/platinum/pics.shtml
EDIT:wow...the screens now are more detailed...:)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Gaijin on May 15, 2008, 03:39:34 PM
yeah i looked onling for the code and if u input the right letter in your name in the right spot i think the highest you can get is lv 380 pokemon. i had a lv 283 charmelon. but if u fight once it will evolve to charizard but its lvl would become 100
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 15, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
yeah...i remember ppl getting lv 144 wild pokemon...so sick and yet broken... :DxDie
this topic is pretty much dead right now...
I have some news

The next game will be called Pokemon Platinum
it will star Giratina as the main pokemon,with an alternative form as seen in the latest pokemon movie
Shaymin and Regigas are said to have different forms as well in the game...and they seem to have more changes(maybe gym leader like in R/S/E??)
more info here:
http://serebii.net/platinum/pics.shtml
EDIT:wow...the screens now are more detailed...:)

great update, thats pretty cool, Giratina is the same level as Palkia and Dialga. the new form looks strange :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 16, 2008, 08:45:29 PM
That screen where Giratina comes out from another world is just sick...i can`t wait until i get the game(rom of course,i cannot afford DS nor DS games... :'()
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: PBRTODD101 on May 17, 2008, 05:43:25 PM
A new pokemon game?  http://www.serebii.net
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on May 17, 2008, 05:46:28 PM
Pokemon platinum http://www.serebii.net/platinum/
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 17, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Does anyone else think that Platinum will be plain and simply more awesome than D/P??
Plz take a look at the pic of Giratina appearing...just wow  :o
I hope that besides design changes and new forms for old pokemon,Nintendo outdoes itself with this new game...
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: StarStorm on May 17, 2008, 08:32:48 PM
Does anyone else think that Platinum will be plain and simply more awesome than D/P??
Plz take a look at the pic of Giratina appearing...just wow  :o
I hope that besides design changes and new forms for old pokemon,Nintendo outdoes itself with this new game...


Nintendo outdid themselves with Pokemon, Yellow, Crystal, and Emerald.

It's safe to say that this'll be awesome. :thumbsup: And that pic of Giratina appearing out of nowhere... Wow. :o
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 19, 2008, 11:54:54 AM
A little something that came up to me recently...seeing as the new game will have an alternative form for Giratina(and rumored Shaymin and Regigigas),does anyone else think that forms can be changed with a certain item like Deoxys?
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 19, 2008, 05:54:50 PM
i dont think since each forms purpose is to increase certain stats, attack form is for sp.atk and atk, defense form is for sp.def and def, and speed for for speed, so unless they make a new stat im not sure they can make another form(unless they combine some stats :-??)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Epic Win Man on May 19, 2008, 06:26:28 PM
awesome, platinum.

every time i think im "over" pokemon, or that i outgrew it,  a new game is announced, and i feel the same rush as when silver/gold was announced
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 19, 2008, 09:06:58 PM
i dont think since each forms purpose is to increase certain stats, attack form is for sp.atk and atk, defense form is for sp.def and def, and speed for for speed, so unless they make a new stat im not sure they can make another form(unless they combine some stats :-??)
You got me wrong...don`t you think that somehow the alternate forms for Giratina,Shaymin and Regigigas are "hidden" in Diamond and Pearl...unless they do the same with Deoxys,who changed forms depending on the game it`s trained,i think they might have done that
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: Violent Ken Masters on May 19, 2008, 10:31:56 PM
hmmmm
My favorite Pokemon
of all time
whould have to be either Marowak or Scyther
I just always liked the Samurai-esq of those 2
The last game I played was Pokemon: Shiney Gold (Fire Red, hacked to be PKMN Gold)
very diffrent then the original and felt much like more like the show
you have like 3 diffrent rivals you face very often!
lol!
it's very exciting


My Top 10 are:

1)Mewtwo
2)Typhlosion
3)Scyther
4)Groudon
5)Deoxys
6)Lugia
7)Tyranitar
8)Nidoking
9)Aggron
10)Steelix

3 From 1st Gen.
4 from 2nd Gen.
3 From 3rd Gen.

I was Extremely dissapointed with the 4th Gen.

My top ten are

1)Mewtwo
2)Mew (although I thought the whole him being symbiotic to a tree in the new movie was total bs)
3)Suicine
4)Charizard
5)Gyarados
6)Alakazam
7)Haunter
8)Farfetch'd
9)Rapidash
10)Ninetails
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 20, 2008, 04:08:18 AM
i dont think since each forms purpose is to increase certain stats, attack form is for sp.atk and atk, defense form is for sp.def and def, and speed for for speed, so unless they make a new stat im not sure they can make another form(unless they combine some stats :-??)
You got me wrong...don`t you think that somehow the alternate forms for Giratina,Shaymin and Regigigas are "hidden" in Diamond and Pearl...unless they do the same with Deoxys,who changed forms depending on the game it`s trained,i think they might have done that
could be, if so i would love to see how or what he would look like and his powers
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 23, 2008, 09:20:57 PM
fyi,there are already a pic or two of giratina at least at this site
www.serebii.net
they also update with everything happening that`s related to pokemon every day or so...it`s a very complete site :)
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: EXCh33ky on May 24, 2008, 01:19:57 AM
Rumors are going on that this could possibly be Shaymins new form
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Title: Re: Pokemon Games general discussion:ask/talk about anything!
Post by: KPT25 on May 24, 2008, 10:32:13 AM
Rumors are going on that this could possibly be Shaymins new form
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
lol...it was a fake...even i didn´t fall in that one...a form change wouldn´t modify the weight and height of a pokemon(see deoxys and giratina)
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