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SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« on: October 03, 2019, 01:33:48 PM »
Hello people. I have been developing projects for some time. I already launched two characters. I've been working hard to bring fun characters to play. May their origins be true. I would like to receive support through paypal. And so I will continue striving to bring news.

Below are some examples. My new version of Spidergwen. based on sony animation. And an x-23 animation in its classic form. based on the old open source material from kravd.

Style:

The characters are inspired by Marvel vs. Capcom.

Then there will be six attack buttons.

One or two grabs.

at least three or more special attacks.

From 1 to 3 hypers. May range from levels 1 to 3.

This will depend on the character. Note that juggernaut has only 1 hyper attack. While psylocke, there are 4

You can make your donation in channel art on my youtube. Where there is the button: "ajude a manter o canal". Or this link: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=WJA5K4E6QG6YQ&source=url

The amounts collected will be for veterinary treatment of my pets. Who have contracted a disease, long treatment.



X-23:

How it works::







Contact: beto_ssj4@hotmail.com
« Last Edit: November 11, 2019, 09:47:20 AM by Beto »



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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2019, 08:24:11 AM »
You can't openly ask for payment for copyrighted characters
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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2019, 08:49:25 AM »
But I am not doing this.

I am asking for support. Everyone has patreon and paypal. In the guild, people make money by editing other people's characters. I'm just adjusting. Because I was harassed there, precisely for asking, not to edit my dark wolverine. The char was edited an hour later as a joke.

This kind of thing has consequences.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2019, 10:17:23 AM »
You sprite because you like it and you're good at it. It's a hobby.
Nobody is gonna pay you to work on your hobby. I strongly advice not to waste your money on this, people.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2019, 10:58:18 AM »
Don't worry guys. This is not an ultimatum. It is optional. If anyone thinks this is worth it, they will contribute. If no one thinks it is not worth it, it does not contribute.

Casting characters today is a headache for sure. I don't want to go through this anymore.

I have already made my contributions in the community in good faith. I would have done more if there weren't so many troublemakers.

I can no longer do this without being compensated in advance. But if you want to talk about it, let it be privately. Here, I just wanted to display the wip.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2019, 08:43:48 PM »
Can I give my two cents here?

You can't openly ask for payment for copyrighted characters

He is not openly asking for payment for the CHARACTERS, but for the SERVICE - he is asking for financial support, offering his services. Its quite different.

You sprite because you like it and you're good at it. It's a hobby.
Nobody is gonna pay you to work on your hobby. I strongly advice not to waste your money on this, people.

It's a hobby which can turn into a paid service. There is nothing wrong on it. Commissions are pretty common those days.

@Beto: I like your work and you deserve support. But I think (maybe its a language barrier) your post sounds a little aggressive. I would change your words for something more "open hearted".

Good luck with your works.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2019, 10:23:39 PM »
You're right. Although sometimes I even understand someone speaking English, I can't express myself correctly. That's what you really said.

Also, if I don't try to make a profit from my characters, other people will do it. I'm trying to keep releasing my work. I'm doing my best not to keep them private.

I will not lie. I feel very disappointed when someone shows a character and says it is private. I don't wanna make anyone feel this way.

Thank you for clearing that up  :Terry

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2019, 08:14:18 AM »
He is not openly asking for payment for the CHARACTERS, but for the SERVICE - he is asking for financial support, offering his services. Its quite different.
Bias much?

Yeah, a service........... to make copyrighted characters.

If an original character, fine, not my 'cup of Joe', but fine. Not copyrighted characters.

Its happened to others, we don't need it here 'O'.
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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2019, 08:31:14 AM »
Bias much?

Yeah, a service........... to make copyrighted characters.

If an original character, fine, not my 'cup of Joe', but fine. Not copyrighted characters.

Its happened to others, we don't need it here 'O'.


I don't know why some of you try to problematize this. Because if it works, in the end everyone wins. It's another mugen character.

I can not sell the character. I have no license to do this. I don't even own copyright. But supporting creators is already very common. The more there is demand, the more there will be supply.

You are a spriter, and you know how hard it is to create a char.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2019, 01:53:21 PM »
Its happened to others, we don't need it here 'O'.

Sky, with all the great respect to you, its not up to you to decide what "we need here". It's up to the admin team. Vigilante behaviour is not something good.

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Bias much?

Yeah, a service........... to make copyrighted characters.
As pretty much any paid fan art. It could be a grey area, but its not illegal.

As far he is not selling the characters directly, he is not breaking any rule. If its not your "cup of joe", just move on.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2019, 03:38:45 PM »
Holy cow!!
The sprites looks amazing so far Beto. Good luck with the project. :)

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2019, 06:32:45 PM »
Holy cow!!
The sprites looks amazing so far Beto. Good luck with the project. :)

Thanks  :)

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2019, 04:35:35 AM »
Beto. Good luck with the project


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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2019, 10:45:19 AM »
Beto, don't take this wrong. You're a cool guy and I'm a big fan of your work, you're a very talented spriter, but I just don't want you to transform into a Logansam.

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Re: SpiderGwen_wip (I need Paypal support\Preciso de suporte via paypal)
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2019, 11:45:44 AM »
I also don't like the logansan stance. But at the same time, I understand him. There are a lot of annoying people in the mugen that really take motivation away from anyone.

I do not want to do that. I just want to complete this project if it is in conjunction with the community. Otherwise, I will retire. Real life has been testing me with increasingly difficult challenges. Recently, my pets got sick. A bloody fungus is eating their meat. The treatment is long and I have spent a lot of money on it. That's why I'm looking for alternative sources of income for balance.

If no one wants it, I won't be bored. But I also hope no one gets upset with me either. Because the price is very affordable. And in the end everyone will win.

There is a lot of material to create a decent character.

I saw that a lot of people make money with mugen. I thought i could too. Once, I create the character from scratch.


I made a table:







Contact: beto_ssj4@hotmail.com
« Last Edit: October 07, 2019, 12:02:37 PM by Beto »

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2019, 04:05:04 PM »
beto, i see no wrong in you asking for help with support. i can understand this. the people that are asking for money to make x move or x character are the people that in reality were not going to make that, so they offer their skillz for a price to do certain task for others. what u want to do here is to have people pay you to make the character you want to make, do you see the difference. this is a hobby and i dont see nothing wrong if you want to start offering your skills for those that need something done.. i think the day you dont feel that drive anymore, then is best for you to move on and do something else, mugen will be around for a long time i think and one can always comeback to it. i have turned myself away from the hobby at times and come back so its something you might consider.

 forget about other people you see and think that they are making money. let them do what they think is best. i do understand about how u say that they are a lot of people that annoyed others, yes they take their drive in some cases but its not going to change. its funny how some of this people get annoyed when they used to be the ones annoying others, will not say names. anyways this mugen thing we do is for us to have fun and when is not fun, then we have to see what else will be fun for us to do. and dont worry about anybody but you, if you want to go private is fine too, nobody is paying you so its your right to do what you feel best for you and what makes things fun for you. if you quit or go private, its your choice and let the people cry about it and say what they want to say, what matters is that you dont let them take the fun away from you..

 like O said, there is a grey area in the paid for service thing. i hope this dont call the attention from capcom and other games companies. think about it, they let use use their works because what we do is fan art and we dont make money in any form from the hobby. what do you guys think getting paid for service will look like in their eyes? at the end of the day is getting paid to do this fan art using their properties. this something everybody have to look into because if they change their stance in this so called fan art, they can turn this and force sites to close down..

anyways, good luck with what u decide beto and i hope everything turns good for your pets. i like your work and hope that u finish your spider gwen.

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2019, 06:46:33 PM »
Do not worry. I'm not in the mugen for money. I am seeking resources for veterinary treatment only. Here in Brazil is very expensive.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2019, 07:00:12 PM by Beto »

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2019, 04:27:32 AM »
The most correct, is learning to deal with it, there is no way to control the sprites you play on the internet, many people try to make money with Mugen content.

Man, some things in MUGEN also bothered me. As theft, commissions, fund-raising requests to create a character and others. Formerly things worked as a team and had rules that were generally respected.

But things change, now Mugen is so, or you adapt, or give up.
  enough our stress of real life to torment us every day.

Anyway, I wish your pet a quick recovery.

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2019, 08:48:24 AM »
Call it prophecy or karma.

There were reasons for me to say that in the respective times. But people evolve, and their opinions change, too. If it weren't for the committees, the complex parts of jaspion and dark wolverine would not be coded so easily. I was flexible and let some people participate in these projects. Although there was conflict of interest generated by the first coder.

I am bringing this proposal again, where people can participate in char development, and help with this problem I have now. I see it more as an exchange of favors than a personal ambition.

I retracted these comments on my blog. Unfortunately, it no longer exists.

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2019, 09:13:01 AM »
It would be very interesting to just focus on the project, and stop these attempts to dissuade people. You have to see which crop, there will be a harvest. positivity vs negativity

A person who has asked for confidentiality about your identity is already helping. Spidergwen is enabled. and x-23 in the background.

Everything is already planned.

I already know the moves and bases to edit.

let's stay focused on positive things.

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2019, 10:42:51 AM »

She is progressing. Soon a video.


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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2019, 10:55:48 AM »
You can try to Open a Patreon page too. It can be easier to people to help you.

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2019, 11:16:52 AM »
I have one. But two years ago, who has no access. Later i will see, if it still works.

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Re: SpiderGwen and X-23 Paypal\wip
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2019, 12:21:34 PM »
hey buddy dm me

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2019, 06:55:41 PM »
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