X-Men: Days of Future Past

[KPT25]

So it's finally out worldwide, so let's share my thoughts. First of all, I liked the fact that despite Wolverine getting the spotlight and being literally between two different worlds, his role was almost secondary. Also, the scenes with Quicksilver were just hilarious, from his introduction into the plot to the prison break. It surprised me to see it was so centered around Mystique, but it wasn't a negative at all. I actually didn't like that the future sentinels were SO DAMN OVERPOWERED!!! Most of the mutants of the future were just wasted and became fodder for them(and it was kinda painful to see as they were pretty brutal).The overall acting was very good, i honestly haven't seen any work from Dinklage before, but i felt he was underutilized as Trask.
Bottom line: it's a very good film, that corrected huge mistakes from previous x-movies  , and set up the field for the next one(stay until the end of the credits  ), but also gave us a few headaches because of the time travelling BS...

[Superjoker]

it's pretty much just an excuse to reboot.

quicksilver was freakin awesome! at least they referenced his Magneto's son.

there were heaps of loop holes but still loved every minute.

Wolverine is and will forever be the main character in any X-Men franchise especially in Hollywood. He was in 1st class as a cameo, but he was still in it!

Future Sentinels are pretty much based on Nimrod, i suppose they were made of non-metallic material otherwise Magneto could have smashed them all! on that note young Magneto is easily one of the coolest baddest movie villains ever!

and Mystique,,,,, do you really think Miss Lawrence needs more reason to make her the main focus? the girl is Oscar class.

I agree Trask wasn't a big role (no pun intended) but was still cool to have him in it.

Reboot time!!

[Twinimage]

I saw it Thursday night. It's very good movie. First quarter I didn't care mainly because they were trying to set up and explain the main plot. Felt too rushed, IMO. Once they got to Quicksilver though, I really enjoyed it. Quicksilver is now my new favorite X-men movie character. He makes super speed look awesome. He was my favorite part of the film. After he left, I was on the edge of my seat the rest of the time. People turning on each other and all kinds of twists near the end.

Dude, those future sentinels were MEAN! They weren't just programmed to kill, they were programmed to kill in the meanest way possible. But I loved that they took the opportunity to showcase all the X-men getting slaughtered. This is the only time you can show all of them being killed off like this.

I love, love, LOVE the fact they there retconned X3, but ponder what else was retconned. Jean is alive now, so X2 must not have happened either?

After credit scene was cool. Looks like Apocalypse is going to be handled correctly, and even have four horsemen. YES!

Overall great movie. It does everything you would hope for in a movie adaption of Days of Future Past.
Only thing missing is them depicting the iconic comic cover of DOFP story with Wolverine and Kitty in front of the poster on the brick wall. That would have been cool to see in live action. But I understand it not being "necessary" to recreate that image.

[DreamBrother]

Only thing missing is them depicting the iconic comic cover of DOFP story with Wolverine and Kitty in front of the poster on the brick wall. That would have been cool to see in live action. But I understand it not being "necessary" to recreate that image.

Agreed but I'm not so forgiving. I couldn't believe it was left out! Nor did we see the graves of the past xmen that had fallen in battle...

Also, the movie was set in the 70's and I recall Kitty saying that if Wolvie succeeded it would be like the last 50 years never happened. So... X1,2,3 and possibly "The Wolverine" never happened.

[Twinimage]

Also, the movie was set in the 70's and I recall Kitty saying that if Wolvie succeeded it would be like the last 50 years never happened. So... X1,2,3 and possibly "The Wolverine" never happened.

Well, the important part is, X3 never happened!!! It's official now. Not just in my dreams.
X2 may not have happened either, seeing that Jean is back. Did she not die then?
X1 isn't that important, all they did was stop Magneto from his evil plans. It introduced the X-Men mainly.

What's weird is, I think this is the last movie they are going to have the old cast in, so it's kind of sad they brought characters back and now there may not be a movie with them in it any time soon.

[laspacho]

I liked it a lot.  Best one along side X2, and First Class.
I Love how they reset the slate and now the older Xmen movies never happened.  It was awesome how Storm got impaled through the back.  I'm kinda shocked how you saw a quick glimpse of mutants from first class that were killed.. Banshee, Emma, Azazel, Riptide, and Angel (Dragon Fly Girl?).  Just kinda came out of no where.

Now what I Still wanna know is who brought Prof X back to life in the future, how did future Wolverine get his metal claws back, and what mutant power did JFK have?

[Arkady]

Yeah I forgot about JFK, maybe like wolverine origins girl? Silverfox was it? I can't remember, anyway she had a influence power, maybe it was that

or it was simply that magneto meant "one of us" as in believed that mutant supremacy was inevitable, and so he was sympathic to the mutant cause, just like FBI agent from the comics that Xavier was always working with in the uncanny x-men, I think his name was Fred Duncan

By the way, can anyone confirm who apocalypse was played by? Was it Aaron Taylor from savages/godzilla/new quicksilver

[Twinimage]

No, I think it was just some random kid. I think they said that actor won't be seen again in the next movie. We'll mostly be seeing Apocalypse in the 1980's where the main story will be set in.

[laspacho]

Here's the actor that played him.
http://www.movieweb.com/news/apocalypse-actor-revealed-in-new-x-men-days-of-future-past-set-photo

[Arkady]

WOW! Talk about make up, I heard from someone else about Aaron, this kid did a pretty good job

[HyperVoiceActing]

I don't know why, but I think it'd be funny if Mutant JFK was actually Cable. Just to piss people off

[Cain]

So it's finally out worldwide, so let's share my thoughts. First of all, I liked the fact that despite Wolverine getting the spotlight and being literally between two different worlds, his role was almost secondary. Also, the scenes with Quicksilver were just hilarious, from his introduction into the plot to the prison break. It surprised me to see it was so centered around Mystique, but it wasn't a negative at all. I actually didn't like that the future sentinels were SO DAMN OVERPOWERED!!! Most of the mutants of the future were just wasted and became fodder for them (and it was kinda painful to see as they were pretty brutal). The overall acting was very good, i honestly haven't seen any work from Dinklage before, but i felt he was underutilized as Trask.
Bottom line: it's a very good film, that corrected huge mistakes from previous x-movies  , and set up the field for the next one (stay until the end of the credits  ), but also gave us a few headaches because of the time travelling BS...

Yeah, i saw it last night & though this movie had a good story... it still left me somewhat disappointed. The past segments were cool but the future ones (imo) completely SHAT on classic/beloved characters too no end. Great heroes like Iceman, Colossus, Bishop, Storm, Blink, Warpath etc. had little too no shine against the future Sentinels... it was as if they were only there to die. Would it have killed them too let Colossus punch  acouple of Sentinels to pieces or toss acouple of them around before he died... or Iceman trip up acouple of them by freezing the ground... or allowing Warpath to take to the sky & dive down on acouple of Sentinels chopping off there heads with his knives. It tore me apart seeing awesome characters i've read about for decades be bitched on screen in less than 5 seconds... hell, they might as well just been human. I realize they were really trying to make the future seem bleak (like in the comics) but unlike this movie, in the books the heroes somewhat shined before they were all taken out (except Franklin Richards). The movie focused way to much on Mystique but James McAvoy & Michael Fassbender (imo) are the stars (there awesome). I barely even noticed Peter Dinklage as Bolivar Trask, the part felt so minor (which is a shame considering how great of an actor he is). We got an awesome Quicksilver for about 10 minutes (TOPS!), a blink & you'll miss her cameo of Rogue (DAMN IT!), Stupid hints of Kitty & Bobby being a couple (which i hate, should've been her & Piotr all the way through the film) & almost every character in the future having like one line of dialog. I sure hope they release an extended DVD/Blu-Ray adding at least 20 more minutes of footage for future scenes not shown in theatres cause i think this movie could really benefit from it. I'll probably have to see it again but as of right now... X2: X-Men United & X-Men: First Class are still the best two X-Men films i've had the pleasure of seeing, i enjoyed them from beginning to end.

[Twinimage]

I did feel a little underwhelmed a bit. Something seemed to be missing. Not sure what it was and it's going to bother me till I figure it out! I'm thinking it may have been the quick pacing. Maybe I was expecting more emotional impact. I like it when they slow down and have an emotional moment (i.e. Magneto moving the satellite in First Class). DOFP had some of that though.

I too want to see it again soon, to take in the smaller details, get a better feel for the story and how everything was handled. And of course to see Quicksilver again!
I'm thinking of seeing it in 3D though. I heard the 3D was good or decent.

[Cain]

Oh... and seeing as though Piotr Rasputin is my favorite Comic Hero, concerning the beginning & ending battles... i just have to say

COLOSSUS!!! ... NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!              


the guy is made of steel Singer, you could have gave him some shine.

[Arkady]

It get where you coming from Cain, I too wanted more iceman, more bishop, more blink, but there's a reason there wasn't any shine for these characters
they are hopelessly unmatched, this movie wasn't a typical comic book movie

it wasn't about hulk vs abomination (self-plug  )
this was a disaster movie, it was x-men vs a tital wave, or x-men vs a world ending meteorite, x-men vs 1000+ nimrods

so if you think about it that way the future needs to be altered

and everyone involved is willing to self sacrifice to make that happen
I really felt that was the goal here, and that the producers combined the emotional content that was involved in the AoA saga, as that was the similarity I saw from the script, all x-men sacrificing them selves to see that bishop can alter the past, and stop legion, from creating an apocalyptic future
 Here in this movie its wolverine stoping mystique, from creating a similar dofp future

you can't make the characters shine, otherwise they'll think they actually have a chance to survive, and really they don't, 1000 nimrods says no
and if they can survive, why go bother to alter the past? The only hope they had was to do the hard reset

[eg6gsr]

Now what I Still wanna know is who brought Prof X back to life in the future.how did future Wolverine get his metal claws back,

[Cain]

This was a disaster movie, it was the X-Men vs. a tidal wave, the X-Men vs. a world ending meteorite, the X-Men vs. 1000 + Nimrods.

So, if you think about it that way... the future needs to be altered. Everyone involved is willing to self sacrifice to make that happen. I really felt that was the goal here.

You can't make the characters shine, otherwise they'll think they actually have a chance to survive and really they don't. 1000 Nimrods says no.

I agree, it's the X-MEN vs. a tidal wave, the X-MEN vs. a world ending meteorite, the X-MEN vs. 1000 + Omega Sentinels / (Nimrods). My point being, there the UNCANNY, ASTONISHING X-MEN who until this movie... have always been an elite super hero unit of characters fighting for equality with unique & UNBELIEVABLE POWERS. That alone separates them from any other victim/characters in any other disaster movie. Bryan Singer & the people over at Fox obviously don't know this. There poor portrayal of these
awesome characters prove this. Now don't get me wrong, the movie was decent but less action packed than i originally expected. I knew the past segments would primarily focus on story (which i was fine with) but i thought the future would be where we saw most of the action (sadly, all i saw was fan favorites with little to no dialog being slaughtered very quickly as if they were powerless). If these characters would have gotten there proper shine in other films i probably wouldn't have to much of an issue with them being taken out so easily now. I really wanted to see Rogue early on (not just a 1 second cameo at the end), i wanted to see Colossus busting up/tossing/killing some Sentinels (not just him being owned by them), Warpath doing something other than being tossed off of every Sentinels back & yelling "Oh god, there coming!", Bishop with way more lines & screen time than what they gave him, more than just a damn cameo of Havok (especially since he was a main character in First Class)... and maybe alittle more dialog between future Magneto & Prof. X. I didn't mind the characters deaths (some were actually pretty cool)... but what i did mind was how they went down. Heroes like Storm, Blink & Sunspot went out fighting (they somewhat shined imo)... while others like Iceman, Colossus & Warpath (by the way, these three hardly did anything in the movie) went out like punk b*tches. Iceman is an omega level mutant, Colossus is physically the strongest member of the team & Warpath has got to be the baddest Apache Native American hero ever... and they were all killed in seconds. Hell, they might as well had just been the Morlocks. I have never seen the X-Men portrayed so weak. I have read comics where the X-Men along with several other Marvel heroes have taken on Galactus, Thanos, Phoenix, the Beyonder & put up a better fight. With so many future Sentinels in this movie, i thought the idea was for the heroes to be completely overwhelmed by there numbers... not sheer power (OVERPOWERED imho). I mean, what was the point of dispatching so many ships filled with future Sentinels during the ending battle if only 2 or 3 Sentinels can defeat the entire team??? Look, i just feel cheated man... i wanted a team centric X-Men film with a good story & some kick-a*s action that make the characters i know & luv (the Sentinels & the Mutants) look good. What i got was a movie that catered to J-Law... oh, i mean Mystique... that had a decent storyline & action scenes that only favored the Sentinels annihilating fan favorite characters with little to no struggle. Even Wolverine & Beast got owned by the Mark 1 model in the past. 

I was hoping for alittle of this:

[ZVitor]

im the only one at world which didnt liked this movie?

[Chimoru]

I haven't seen it and I don't know if I want to.  X3 and the first Wolverine movie burned me so bad I said "Forget it."  I saw First Class and I didn't hate it, but it didn't feel like X-MEN to me. 

My thoughts on this movie is that it's gonna be super Wolverine and Magneto based, have a ton of cameos and no character development, and still not quite feel like a proper X-MEN title.

I don't wanna see "Wolverine saves the Earth with a little help from his friends"

Is that what it was?  Please don't spoil too much in case I change my mind, but am I close?

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

I am kinda terrified to even see the movie now. My uncle saw it and said " wtf was this" and said he wished they refunded folks money cause many folks he said walked out on it. He said Godzilla was better by far. Lol. Which I will be seeing very soon. They offing characters like they did and no real fighting to me is just plain..Boooooooo! Story is cool but I mean cmon with the action at least...and give some of those character a really good shine time before gettin offed by overpowered legions of sentinels.  Wolverine is a cool good character but every xmen film other than his own 2 movies and xmen first class felt as if it was wolverine and the xmen and not real solid xmen flicks. X2 was better but wolverine always at the forefront. Glad he only had a 5 second cameo in first class. Lol. Too bad they dont make xmen movies that gives much more to the others characters, but in screen time and story like they should.
If my uncle who been a comic fan since before imwas born  and thinks this one was boooooo material then def makes me afraid to waste my money....catch it on bootleg I guess. Lol

[DEMONKAI]

Well I liked it ....That says a lot for me because i really didnt like those other xmen movies like that except first class. (however i still didnt see that last wolverine movie)

I thought the sentinel situation would be bad but nah it was hot. bastards were vicious. I was uptight about seeing their design before but once i saw the movie and how the were killing the mutants i totally forgot about all that. Bishop was done cool. Odd how he was using his powers though. eh maybe that was just another option.

Quick silver scene in the kitchen was the funniest sh*t in the whole movie. very cool. War path was puny but eh i liked how they had em as a youngin puting in work....cool but i still wish they had em in his brute size like colossus.

The dark future was the most entertaining part to me. The present (the past) was eh interesting but i favored the future action more. The easter egg at the end of the movie had me scratchin my chin....i hope that situation comes entirely what its supposed to be just like the comic. They cant f*ck that character up and the rest of em.

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I dont wanna say what that spoiler IS^^

so, so far i only liked xmen movies: first class & DOFP the most out of all.....I hope cable some how gets a piece of the action in a later movie now

Overall the special FX were on point. That action in the dark future was bad @ss....i wasnt expecting it to be that good...

But overall i didnt expect much of this movie anyway. seeing how the rest were done i couldnt get too fan boy bent out of shape how i saw things going in this flick. i compared to the rest of the Xmen movies that came before this one....Did it blow me away like the Avengers did? hell no....it was decent and that was that^^

Is that what it was?  Please don't spoil too much in case I change my mind, but am I close?

No nothing like that...he helped yeah but trust it was a team thing....AS for magneto...i dont wanna say what happened....youll have to see it....it was a good movie. If you are familiar with that old old comic youll already know what happens and just appreciate the movie for what it is some what....

If you decide to see it in theaters for a night out just stay for the easter egg after all the credits

[Superjoker]

Hollywood will be Hollywood, just think of it as an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE i like to call it Earth-90210

but seriously Zvitor u didnt even like Quicksilver?!

[Twinimage]

If you're a purist, you're probably going to hate it, no matter what. If you were ok with the kind of changes they made in X1 and X2 and even First Class, then you should like this. This film did feel more like an X-men film to me. For those who've been burned by X3, well, without giving things away, it gives a totally satisfying fix to that. I mean, no other franchise has had this kind of opportunity to say certain crappy movies never happened. (looking at you, X3 and Wolverine Origins!) In other words, THIS MOVIE IS NOT LIKE X3 AT ALL. It's as good as First Class and X1.

I can understand you not wanting it to be another "Wolverine and the X-friends", but several characters get some good screen time. Xavier is definitely fleshed out more. Magneto I feel actually gets less attention. A lot of people say Mystique got the most attention. Everything feels less of a priority than the time travel story. Even though Wolverine is in the spot light for some time, even he feels less important than the main goal the X-men have in the main plot, to save the future.

Did I mention that Quicksilver was AWESOME!!?!?! I'm glad he's going to be in the sequel.

[DEMONKAI]

Did I mention that Quicksilver was AWESOME!!?!?! I'm glad he's going to be in the sequel.

like i said, that was the funniest sh*t in the whole movie.....did you catch the hint hint line on whos his pops? 

[Twinimage]

like i said, that was the funniest sh*t in the whole movie.....did you catch the hint hint line on whos his pops? 

Ya, I was so glad they kept him as Magnus' kid. They handled it perfectly too. They made the reference but didn't make it a sub-plot, that way there's potential for a later film to possibly cover that. This film didn't have room to cover all that. So I'm glad.

[Superjoker]

and in the end he had little Wanda on his lap! He will def. be back in Apocalypse!!!

@ Wolverine and his X-Friends (now with more 'friendly' screen time!)

But seriously remember that topic we did as to who in the comic world is the most powerful??? this movie cements Mangeto's position! B-A-D-A-S-S

[Arkady]

Yeah I read somewhere that the little girl isn't Wanda, it might be Polaris,
Wanda is pietros twin sister, I'm pretty sure Bryan singer confirmed that she wasn't in the movie and hinted that the girl was someone else

[ZVitor]

Hollywood will be Hollywood, just think of it as an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE i like to call it Earth-90210

but seriously Zvitor u didnt even like Quicksilver?!

i liked quicksilver, i liked first fight scene,
but overall is a bad movie.

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magneto give up to easly to kill mystique... and her are not mad with him.....
wolverine didnt had a good fight scene, and he could return to future after convince xavier to use cerebro.
it should be 50/50 to future/past, but looks more like x-men first class 2
and at end it erase everything cool at x1, x2, and x3....

[Twinimage]

Yeah I read somewhere that the little girl isn't Wanda, it might be Polaris,
Wanda is pietros twin sister, I'm pretty sure Bryan singer confirmed that she wasn't in the movie and hinted that the girl was someone else

I read that as well. I read there was a scene where a teen age sister was mentioned but never seen and that scene was cut out. As small a part that Quicksilver had in the movie it wouldn't have been worth mentioning he had a sister, because it wouldn't have mattered in the story and only comic fans would see it as significant. She may appear in the next film if there's a purpose for her in the story. But I also heard the next film is set in the 80's and has young Jean, Scott and Storm, so not sure if there will be much room for Wanda to do her justice. ANYWAY, ya, Quicksilver is awesome.

[Cain]

My uncle saw it and said " wtf was this" folks walked out on it. They offing characters like they did and no real fighting to me is just plain..Boooooooo! Story is cool but I mean cmon with the action at least...and give some of those characters a really good shine time before gettin offed by overpowered legions of sentinels. Too bad they dont make xmen movies that gives much more to the other characters, in screen time and story like they should. If my uncle, whose been a comic fan since before i was born thinks this one was boooooo material then it def makes me afraid to waste my money.

^^^Finally, someone who understands.   

[esn23]

This movie was worse than x3 it was all kinds of bad and the continuity was taken way too far and out of context.. Fox and Bryan Singer should rename the xmen series to wolverine.  This movie sucked on all kinds of levels its sad when a kids cartoon from the 90s that was really corny did this story arch better than Hollywood.  This is an epic fail and Xmen needs a reboot like they did with spiderman and get some first time director and unknown actors to play the roles of the xmen and also make sure the director is a fan of the comics and respects them. 

[Superjoker]

esn23 these movies are BASED on the comics, if you want the comic stories then read the comics!

there's a reason why all that you said doesn't happen... because money talks louder than respect!

If the whole entire population read the comic books then it would be different, nowadays popculture is cool and unfortunately noobs watch the movies and that's it, no time for comics that's for us 'nerds'.

it wasn't that bad, i mean even u watched right? even if we all said IT'S CRAP DON'T WATCH IT! you still would, and Hollywood laughs at us.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

Well to be honestly put SJ bro...these writers and director of the x men movies arent even really giving us fans a solid version.....they just selling us their vision of them. Lol. You know how that can go all different ways.....and has.  Hugh Jackman contract must states no matter the plotline , no matter the flick....he must be the center stone or the cornerstone of it.  Even tho I think they tried a bit to steer ths away from him and more Mystique , I still wished it was more about Bishop like in the 90s toon did it. He was the actual time traveler. After seeing some of it on bootleg...yeah I just had to see it for myself.... movie just left something more to be desired cause of the other characters involved but got axed so quick.  I mean really why have quicksilver in commercials and dude got like only 10 minutes screen time?  I would have gone nuts with excitement to see Warpath and Collossus do way more fighing. I would have loved this flick if was 3hours long and done really good with more fights and characters screen time. Ehhhh I got to see it for free so at least I got a freebee in. Overall for me....its just a cool flick. They can do much better than this though. One day some day will come a director and writers who will make a comic fan x men movie . For it is us comic nerds that made them rich in the first place!

[ZVitor]

This is Xmen First Class 2, a movie. About Xavier, magneto and Mystique,

Wolverine role was ridiculous, i tink Hugh are not up to fight scenes after his Accident at W Imortal.

This is a bad super hero movie, and im not a nitpick, i liked Daredevil and Extraordinary League

[Twinimage]

I'd like to know, putting the adaption from comic to live action aside, do you guys think it was a well made film? For the most part I think it was a good movie. Singer handled the time travel story, juggling the large cast and large scope of the film well, IMO. That's not an easy task. I also was impressed with how the effects for everyone's powers was good.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

I'd like to know, putting the adaption from comic to live action aside, do you guys think it was a well made film? For the most part I think it was a good movie. Singer handled the time travel story, juggling the large cast and large scope of the film well, IMO. That's not an easy task. I also was impressed with how the effects for everyone's powers was good.

Hmmmmm well made? Ehhh for what it is....a little. I cant give it that much credit to be considered well made like that. He handles the large cast by pretty much cutting them down and out. Never got to really build up to anything with most of them. They were gone out the flick before even getting to feel for them good. If you seen those 2 commercials with quicksilver and collossus and was a cool "oh yeah x men gonna be good to see these guys in"......yeah then see the film and basically they had snuff parts. Just felt like....wtf. so I say singer handled it with the easiest option....do away with folks. It would been more a task to make them shine well with screen time. Quality good screen time. The sentiel fights were vicious but overkill. I get the whole x men vs the end bringer ideology put forth but shoulda been longer film with more development of the characters and usage of them in the huge plot.

As zvitor said tho x men first class 2: Recess.    But I just feel tons of stuff was missing, robbed of certain content  and put in characters just as cannon fodder. If like 50 years was reset or as if stuff never happened ...somethin like that...then that means all those other xmen flicks are null and void and now we have to start all over with this flick for more to come. Confuskin confusion. .

[eg6gsr]

 I have to say this, Wolverine puts butts in seats plain and simple just like Batman does for DC(which is why he was shoehorned into SUPERMAN'S sequel)  just like Ironman/ Tony Stark did for Avengers. Like it or not he is the character that the casuals will go to see a movie even if they know nothing about the movie itself.

That being said and basing the movie of that logic it's a pretty good movie. Yes there is tons of stuff that could have been done better and yes the story wasn't as good but that's because I and many of you of KNOW the original story and how it should be so of course we want our movie but for everyone else who isn't a "nerd"(ha I consider everyone on this site including myself one =P) they're just going to see a movie based on another movie based on a comic that they've herd about.

Is this a good thing, hell no but at this point it's what to be expected from Hollywood because they do have to put the casuals in the seats since they are the majority.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

HEY I love avengers movie......and peoples I know went to see it for all the characters and not just cause Iron Man in it. So I call blasphemy!  . Wolverine 2 solo flicks were tame at best. So I doubt just wolverine will put buttcheeks in seats since this is a team supposed flick. Batman is a solo dude and DC cash cow for some years, Man of steel was awesome to me . Great flick for DC too. But now its about the teams not solos flick so flick will be interesting to see what they do with it.
Casual movie goers barely care or really know the characters if they dont follow the comics or know of them. They just show up to be amused. So if thats who they target then goal met. I just cant give them an excuse clause to worm out of doing the movies right.....even if not solid comic specifics. Just do it right.  Yes for, once I am comic nerdin out. Lol So I get what ya saying eg6 bruh. . Nerds and casuals seein the films. Both  are so its ruff when my nephew saw the flick and then goes back to read the storyline comic and he askin me why they changed the good stuff from the comic to ....this. I just said.....movie writers adaptions.....some good , many bad. Lol

[eg6gsr]

HEY I love avengers movie......and peoples I know went to see it for all the characters and not just cause Iron Man in it. So I call blasphemy!  . Wolverine 2 solo flicks were tame at best. So I doubt just wolverine will put buttcheeks in seats since this is a team supposed flick.

Hahaha but you know it's true, Iron man pushed all the movies hard after his and I'm guessing DC hope's Batman will do the same for their movie franchise because he is the fan favorite same as Wolverine. Bahhh don't get me started on Wolverine's movies  but their box office would have something to say about not getting casuals in seats and we can blame that on X2 and X3. I would never give Hollywood the excuse to make movies so far from the original material especially when they could just word for word the script and make it live action I'm just saying why they do it. While catering to the masses sucks it does bring the most money but lets be real for someone who doesn't follow X-Men like us do you really think they would be able follow this movie with cable being the one time traveling when most don't even know who he is?

Not everyone was lucky enough to have a nerdy parent,aunts/uncles, cousins to show them all the good stuff so all they really know is the movies which is a shame for them AND us because we are the ones who have to deal with poop and get some kind of enjoyment out of it. I mean look at resident evil it has 5 movies with another one planned and the first one only somewhat followed the series but it's still kicking because of casuals so they keep making them.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

good points and points taken. 

RE movie do good cause its zombie butt kicking. Yeah even tho they done really gone astray from the game cannon big time. . I just hate when we gem a couple gems then they shovel out poop from nowhere in comic flicks. X2 is still the only main xmen movie I like. First class is cool but mannnnn they wonked stuff up in that too. 

Ok now I gotta watch Guardians Of The Galaxy when that comes out. Lawd help me pleeze!

Hahaha I def give ya that about Iron Man .....he pretty much appeared in each avenger solo character film. So on that def yeah he pushed it but it set up for the actual movie. Which is bonus points. .  Well I think if it was Cable then it would give him exposure then those who dont know wil then know. Of sorts. . I think adding in more of a bit of cannon from the comics plays an integral part cause imagine the casuals tryin to argue facts with the comic nerdies ( us ) but then they left pretty much out of the comic reality and just been sold a farce movie. Then the questions ensue and research. Ehhhh its all about the money and not the fantasy anymore I guess. Pure shame .

[esn23]

Well my thing is is if they called xmen first class and all these xmen movies something else and used different names and powers and just made a superhero movie it would be okay.  But the problem is they are taking beloved characters and killing them off or mis casting/representing them or butchering the story.  The problem is people that are making it are not comic fans like they say, because they butcher the story.  If you got someone like kevin smith or even stan lee himself to direct these films they would be way different with the hollywood specail eftects they way they are it would be so easy to make xmen a live action series.  Also if you look at cartoons like wolverine and the xmen they changed a lot but it was way better than anything i have seen on screen.  And the problem is you get these kids that watched the 90s cartoon without reading the comic or just watched the films that rave about it and they make more crap.  Like I said when first class came out with white trash emma frost and sebastian shaw i would rather see them be killed off then them to miscast or mis represent them.  After seeing this rubish I wont watch another xmen film lets just hope they come out with more astonishing xmen motion comics or a new cartoon   I mean look at arrow did they change the story yes but it still stays true to the characters the casting for the most part is good and it has a huge fanbase from comic nerds to non comic nerds.

[Twinimage]

If you got someone like kevin smith or even stan lee himself to direct these films they would be way different with the hollywood specail eftects they way they are it would be so easy to make xmen a live action series.

Dude, if Stan Lee made these films, they'd be way different alright, they'd be horrible. All due respect, Mr. Lee is not a film maker.


Kevin Smith has film experience though.
Being a fanboy doesn't mean someone can make a good film.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

Dude, if Stan Lee made these films, they'd be way different alright, they'd be horrible. All due respect, Mr. Lee is not a film maker.


Kevin Smith has film experience though.
Being a fanboy doesn't mean someone can make a good film.

Yooooooooo I might have to agree with that one Twin. Lol. But I will give Stan some credit cause he has more love for his characters than the directors and the writers visions of the story plots. I would say tho give xmen rights to Marvel studios and let them have at it for a try. So far I have enjoyed their flicks made by them.  The directors and writers to make a really well done movie xmen adaption of this scale should be serious fans and as well want to leave enough good content to satify both the casual fan and the comic fans. You have to find a medium of some sort. To be honest...I hated Sabastian Shaw in xmen first class. Everyone else powers i was fine with except Shaws. Glad they killed him off tho even tho it was too easy. . Maybe next time or someday we can get a diehard  xmen movie done good and with respect to both the studios for money makin and both sides of fans. 

[Twinimage]

The only true example of someone whose love for comics actually made adaption better for a comic show/movie is Mark Hamill as the Joker. But there's only so many nerds out there with film making talent.

I agree that the Marvel Studio movies are great! I question if giving X-men rights back to Marvel would fix the whole problem though. Certain casting/adaptions of X characters have been completely off. And some characters do get a lot less development than others. But that would still be a difficult challenge if Marvel Studios had to do it too. And you know Wolverine would still be in the spotlight if Marvel owned them.

I would like to know how many of those in Marvel Studios are true comic book fans. Or are there a few guys in suits who overlook these film projects and makes sure these things are adapted well.

[Arkady]

I could easily see marvel studios make a better x-men movie, and I don't think wolverine would be the focus as much as Cyclops and magneto, which I would hope would be the way go, I actually liked the Japanese xmen cartoon
where it was Cyclops as the main character, and wolverine and beast as the support, it really showed the team well, unlike these movies where wolverine always outshined the rest of the team, Cyclops is the leader of the team, that's where the movies have failed in bringing the team to the big screen

its like having a ninja turtles movie and making Raphael the leader, and killing off Leonardo, just erks me everytime I watch foxs interpretation of x-men, marvel studios wouldn't fk up the possible 10+ pictures they could make out of the x-men universe, as I said last year when fox had promoted dofp, that as soon as the rights go back to marvel, you'll finally see a x-men movie worthy of the comicbook history