ZEITGEIST: religion, 9/11, money, banking, corruption

[onslaught1]

Ive decided to start sharing my knowledge and obsession with human history or human coming threw videos for the ones who are interested but never knew where too look.  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkbvJFEQgJU#

[onslaught1]

This one is a good introduction, especially for noobies lookin for answers


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHiuaGJ46zo#

[DrZaius]

It really isn't.  I started watching Zeitgeist and had to stop about halfway because of all the half-truths.  It's not the first documentary, or whatever it is, to ignore certain pieces of information in order to push the creator's views.

I mean, I like Michael Moore's documentaries but I don't use them as the sole source of answers to my questions (regarding, say, healthcare or capitalism).  Some reading and real studying is where I get my answers.

To believe what Zeitgeist is saying is to believe what comes out of any latest "scientific" study mentioned on AOL News... instead of looking up REAL studies in scientific journals.

For "noobies," I recommend doing actual reading.  Books on theology, philosophy, economics, and debates people have been having for centuries.

[DrZaius]

Isn't this the sequel to Esoteric Agenda, which makes claims that a secret society is readying the public for a new world order taking place in the year 2012, taking advantage of the 2012 phenomenon (which is the belief that the end of the world, or some other grand-scale change, will take place on that year)?

If the sequel is anything like what the first sounds like, then I'm sure it must be quite an entertaining conspiracy movie.

[Ohsky]

The religion part is wrong in zeitgeist but the rest is thought provoking.

 Can you not be openly rude for the new year just this once, please?

[Ohsky]

The Nwo is already here, it is a wip itself that has been on the works for over 2 centuries. Now TPTB expose it publicly without shame cause it´s in it´s more critical stages toward global government on a globalised society.

[Acey]

Aww, I thought this topic was about the Smashing Pumpkins and their less successful 2007 album "Zeitgeist"

[[Asian-Jesus]]

Aww, I thought this topic was about the Smashing Pumpkins and their less successful 2007 album "Zeitgeist"

Hey now Acey, it was still a good album. (Kinda weird, but still good)

I'm wondering now, have you listened to Zwan? It's like old Pumpkins.

[aquelegordo1]

this one is more creepy

[Acey]

Hey now Acey, it was still a good album. (Kinda weird, but still good)

I'm wondering now, have you listened to Zwan? It's like old Pumpkins.

I'm a Smashing Pumpkin nut and Zwan was a great project.
When one of my friends hear a Smashing Pumpkins ringtone dialing into their cell phone they know it's Acey calling.

[Tenspeed]

I liked that 2007 album as well. I'm not really a pumpkins fan, but once I heard tarantula I had to go out and buy the CD immediately.

[Tenspeed]

oh my god, is it that time of the year again?

[onslaught1]

The Nwo is already here, it is a wip itself that has been on the works for over 2 centuries. Now TPTB expose it publicly without shame cause it´s in it´s more critical stages toward global government on a globalised society.

Ya this is before Esotoric Agenda.


the NWO is been around for like more than 60 years. i think your thinking about the illuminati theyve been around for a long @ss time.  but ya nwo has been a patient process.   but thats not what 2012 is actually about, ya your right there using it to mislead people as usual but 2012 is something completely different on its own.  i ll post more vids  

[onslaught1]

It really isn't.  I started watching Zeitgeist and had to stop about halfway because of all the half-truths.  It's not the first documentary, or whatever it is, to ignore certain pieces of information in order to push the creator's views.

I mean, I like Michael Moore's documentaries but I don't use them as the sole source of answers to my questions (regarding, say, healthcare or capitalism).  Some reading and real studying is where I get my answers.

To believe what Zeitgeist is saying is to believe what comes out of any latest "scientific" study mentioned on AOL News... instead of looking up REAL studies in scientific journals.

For "noobies," I recommend doing actual reading.  Books on theology, philosophy, economics, and debates people have been having for centuries.

yah its always best to research these after watching some times some vids are overexaggerated but most of the times its facts. 
Post Merge: January 06, 2010, 12:43:33 AM

The religion part is wrong in zeitgeist

what do u think is right?  jus curious

[Ohsky]

i said is thought provoking, search the truth for yourself. What is right or wrong is secondary, the religious part was very obvious and ridiculous, but documentaries like this one exposes some questions wich shows overtly that there is something wrong in how things are run in this world, the most obvious, the banking system. So it should be encouraged people have to search hard for answers themselves.

I repeat, discussing what is wrong or right in a documentary is a waste of time, it is already sucessful if only makes you feel you have to search for answers.

and people, dont troll the thread with so much random offtopicness.

[Ohsky]

I have read a lot about 2012 and i cannot reach any decent conclusion about it, just that apparently seems to be a bunch of BS. It´s so wild what many assume it will happen, and sadly what i most see is some smartasses making a living out of the sheep who buy the fad. People like doom, anyway, twisted humans.... so if they hate the world they live in they want a cataclism to happen where billions die so they can start living in a new one of love and light. How those lunatics can be so retarded. And you can find plenty of big forums wich are full of them.

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

OOH GOD NOT AGAAAAAAAINNN! ok i am really gettin tired of the whole NWo thing . ok there are like what, 20 30,40maybe secret sects out there trying to " redo" the world view over and make a what, new shangralah or something? i didnt really care to watch yet another disaster movie.. for some strange reason most the time if not all the time the president of USA happens to be Black..... . WEIRD huh? i am always open for great mental stimulation about what goes on our lil world and please dont think for a sec that i am naive about an ending of earth never happening. trust me, this has been a so called prediction for about what .. thousands of years .. again. and for some reason it always changes in dates . 1999, 2002, 2012 i mean we can even go back to lonnnnnnnng ago when it was supposed to happen during george washington days.  If its gonna happen it sure aint gonna happen when anyone thinks it will or or how.  Alien conquors, massive meteros the size of texas, the fricken fraggles come out and try to take over with the dozers, Teletubbies, oh oh wait .... transformers come and try to wipe out the sun... gooood one even tho it aint a disaster movie but hey , let the imagination run wild these days. My best theory is somewhere in the braziilian rain forest is a legend of a small tiny tribe of indigeous pygmy lil people with white hats and there are billions of them all over the world but only have one female in the entire race and since they cant stand that fact that us humans have plenty of women to go around ... world domination and destruction shall begin and the end of the world is comin  in the mighty  hands of the...SMURFS!   can only inagine what 2010  movies and theories have in store for us this year.

[Tenspeed]

don't troll the forum with random wackjob weirdo topics.

[Ohsky]

being tired dont mean you have any right to censor a thing. But the sheep acts just like you, ridiculing the truth, first, second fiercely and violently opposing it, and third, accepting it as self-evident.

It is obvious it seems its a waste of time to try to bring some truth as what is happening in the world here in an innocent mugen forum where people only want to be entertained. We who put this here thougth too much up of this forum. As the sheeple dont want to notice a thing that disturbs them in their happy cubicle ant lives. It has happened the same to me in other mugen forums, the last time just some days ago, when i published this in the stupid mugen bunghole infantry, they deleted the thread without warning, ignorant assholes, f**k*** brainwashed sheep!; we are screwed as as species as long as people continue to be like that.

here is the video:




DONT be brainwashed by the media, just wake up already!!.

[R.I.C.O - Twon]

But the sheep acts just like you, ridiculing the truth, first, second fiercely and violently opposing it, and third, accepting it as self-evident.


As the sheeple dont want to notice a thing that disturbs them in their happy cubicle ant lives. It has happened the same to me in other mugen forums, the last time just some days ago, when i published this in the stupid mugen bunghole infantry, they deleted the thread without warning, ignorant assholes, f**k*** brainwashed sheep!; we are screwed as as species as long as people continue to be like that.

Does that not make you the sheep?
 
 1. You ridicule the truth that is presented as truth.
 2. You fiercely and violently oppose it (You need to work on your wording, I don't see anyone in here killing people over this :/)
 3. You accept what a video says as self-evident.

Umm, sheep don't live in happy cubicle ant lives. I mean, ***n, ants don't live in cubicles :/ Anyways, We are screwed as a species as long as people delete threads on Mugen forums? That's cool I guess.

[R.I.C.O - Twon]

that´s you trolling right now.

But you just trolled by trolling him on his troll. Aargh, now I am a troll.

[ratmon]

Religion is a joke. I don't agree with how they force people to become Christian. Just with that it should be enough prove.

[Acey]

But you just trolled by trolling him on his troll. Aargh, now I am a troll.

Hey, that's enough trolling before...

Agg, I'm Trolling!

[ATiC3]

Shouldn't these kinds of topics be posted on other forums? This is a MUGEN forum... a few people here may have interest, but seriously.... it's called General Discussion not "Religious Discussion". No matter my religion, I don't need to read these kinds of topics here. It's great I guess that you're learning them but please post them somewhere else.

[DrZaius]

Religion is a joke. I don't agree with how they force people to become Christian. Just with that it should be enough prove.

Trlol

...

I mean, troll.

[DrZaius]

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

[onslaught1]

why are people gettin pissed.  i made a topic.... if u dont like it dont read it.  if ur into this kinda information and topics then discuss.

me i ve always been into this.  majority of people arent.... people dont wanna know these kinda things

this is what i usually hear
"well whats the point of knowing this"
"what r u gonna do about it"
"uhhhhhh ok"
"i dont wanna know that, its sad"



its just information man, lots of people are quick to judge or quick to say something.  when information is jus suupposed to get kept in mind.   I think its always important to know whats going on really in our home world

[Tenspeed]

[onslaught1]

man seriously why do u worry?  this is under general discussion


but anyways.  ya there is no right or wrong never has been that was created by man.  but working and not working does exist and the system we live in does not work.   technology is created by man not money, with the technology we have now we can be living with no worrys and actually have time to sit down and think and actually evolve. instead of being constantly busy with useless crap that actually shifts us into the bad people we are.....for younger ppl they got high school to worry, the gf, the friends, the sports, the video games, etc.   for adults its the jobs, the kids, the wife, the bills, the money, etc   


but people just dont want to think no more, they just like to be doing what they do everyday and just live in there own little reality. 

have yall heard of the venus project?

[Tenspeed]

I think this topic needs more Dokken.

 trolling

[onslaught1]

this is a really good vid too for the people who want to see.





its in parts in youtube

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

why are people gettin pissed.  i made a topic.... if u dont like it dont read it.  if ur into this kinda information and topics then discuss.

me i ve always been into this.  majority of people arent.... people dont wanna know these kinda things

this is what i usually hear
"well whats the point of knowing this"
"what r u gonna do about it"
"uhhhhhh ok"
"i dont wanna know that, its sad"


i know i feel you on all that. i do crack of jokes about stuff but in reality in my family my mom actually is in college for anrthopology and they study about all the differect secret societies and consiracy theories that go on more so on a cultural scale . as far as her religious beliefs she is into the egyptian culture of study rather than being religious in any one sect. we have of these kinds of discussions on a day to day basis when i come around. i do believe there are forces that we dont know about or do not wish to know about but that tho is truly the purpose of these sects to have things in this manner. but to be absolutely all in honesty some of these comments that people do give are indeed their own personal opinions and if they do not wish to want to know or do what to just state their own observations. the world is full of positvity and as well negeativity but both go hand in hand. our world will never have the utopia that some desire so much . its not in our nature or should i say some of our natures to be that way.
i take information and just roll with it . it is what it is or i do comment about how i truly feel about something. and toss in a joke or 2. . reality wise these secret societies have been around since who knows when behind the scenes doing things as such ...or .. they are just created figures that certain people broadcast to have the human minds wondering about the what ifs and maybes on earth . you will not live long enough to even dive into the known truth of any of these things and they have survived through all of our time on this planet. 'what ya gonna do' can be truly summed up in a whole perspective. what will you or what can you do with what all you do know? for the most part.. doing what we are doing right now.. a discussion.. until or unless we as a whole really havethe power to control what is going on behind the scenes. but the real question is... can we do anthing about these things and people even if we dont know who they are and what their motivations on us all ar doing? only time can tell . well thats my thought on this subject anyway.

[Tenspeed]

[onslaught1]

hey man i see your an infinity faithful and all...........


but this is a topic about esoteric agenda for the ones who wanted to see it.  u can make a bon jovi topic.....  can someone remove this bon jovi vid or move it somewhere else, not tryin to be mean but it doesnt belong on this topic

[Tenspeed]

There are now three of these retarded topics.

I'm protesting.

[onslaught1]

people take this and automatically start worrying and get negative.   religion doesnt exist, but negative and positve vibration energy that we put out does and it does effect the world and the people on it.

have u heard of DR Masaru Emoto?

[onslaught1]

how old are you?

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

no i havent heard of him before but i sure will check out the vid and see whats up my friend. i dont know when it comes to religion bu i see it like this , it does exist for the people who practice it . it becomes their personal reality ya know. i am more a spiritual person than religious.. no one truly knows if what they practice is the corect thing we are to be following when it come to GOD. they could all be wrong . or they could all be right.  but thanx for the vid. i will sit back and enjoy the learning as i watch.

[Tenspeed]

old enough to be annoyed by these topics.

[onslaught1]

same here man.  im not religious, but spiritual.

but ya man just go onyou tube or google.  type in messages from water..........its actually pretty crazy

[Tha Lando ( Le CROM )]

Shouldn't these kinds of topics be posted on other forums? This is a MUGEN forum... a few people here may have interest, but seriously.... it's called General Discussion not "Religious Discussion". No matter my religion, I don't need to read these kinds of topics here. It's great I guess that you're learning them but please post them somewhere else.

 
 yeah i could have sworn i joined a mugen forum back in 2007 but uhh i guess a discussion is a discussion these days no matter where it is. but please yeah bring on the mugen and gaming talk. religion and stuff i dont think is the right format in here. unless someone is creating holy moses or jesus christ mugenized. 

[onslaught1]

but this is a topic i created.   i understand if you dont wanna see it.  its a button click away.   i thought this was general discussion?    mugen discussions go under the tab mugen discussions

[Acey]

 yeah i could have sworn i joined a mugen forum back in 2007 but uhh i guess a discussion is a discussion these days no matter where it is. but please yeah bring on the mugen and gaming talk. religion and stuff i dont think is the right format in here. unless someone is creating holy moses or jesus christ mugenized. 

We lure everyone in with Mugen then try to sell you all on a pyramid scheme, it's great marketing

[ATiC3]

but this is a topic i created.   i understand if you dont wanna see it.  its a button click away.   i thought this was general discussion?    mugen discussions go under the tab mugen discussions

These kind of topics generally try to be avoided, because this topic will end up with people bickering back and forth between each other... it's probably not the best place to discuss these type of things... We're try to go for the more general topics, like news topics, funny youtube vids, and etc. This might be a good forum for you... Now I didn't take a look at what's in it, but the title says it all... http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/