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Title: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on August 11, 2007, 12:50:43 AM
Welcome back one and all! Starting off on a light note I'm curious in the world of MUGEN, Comics and Movies who you prefer? Those that know me know I'm an accused eletist for DC, and their message boards. I wont admit to that but I will say I grew up, an X-Men, and Spidey fan as a youngin, so I have a tremendous respect for Marvel's characters. As I grew Young and rebelious I became more attracted to the writings of Frank Miller, Alan Moore, which would lead me to being fan of Neil Gaiman, Grant Morrison, and John Obarr. After those days I became a hardcore Vertigo Fan which made me a hardcore DC fan.

Since I was a kid there seems to have been a role reversal where Marvel seems to be the company that appeals more the young, and DC has become very serious and adult company (a reflection of Vertigo's influence I believe) Compare V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, and Constantine to Spiderman 3, Ghost Rider, and Fantastic 4, theres a big contrast there. I'm not saying either preference is right, Im curious what everyone else thinks....
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: KPT25 on August 11, 2007, 12:57:16 AM
Well,you made a point comparing those movies indeed...
I´ve always preferred Marvel over DC,because i liked its tv shows more than DC`s...why Superman and Batman from the animated series look pretty similar to eah other...WB´s fault,of course...
I couldn`t see Spidey 3,was that bad that you compared it with Ghost Rider?
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on August 11, 2007, 12:57:48 AM
Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange FTW!!!!

oh and while Spider-Man is my favorite hero (with Batman and Batman Beyond following) I hated spider-Man 3, and you all probably already know why
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Jay_High19 on August 11, 2007, 01:00:29 AM
Well I've never read a comic book so all my knowledge is based of cartoons and movies.
DC has way better cartoons that are more dark and serious. But I'm a die-hard Spidey fan and still quite a young sir so I like Marvel's movies better. DC's are too boring for me. I'd have to say Marvel is where I'm at but DC is not far behind at all.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: TomBewley on August 11, 2007, 01:03:34 AM
I'm  a Jean Grey fan all the way. I love the X-men  :D

I have always preferred Marvel. I never really got into DC comics, and some of their heroes were so lame in comparison to Marvel

And yes, Spider-man was awful. I hated it for many reasons, Venom being lower down on the list that some may have expected. Damn Emos!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Megafanx13 on August 11, 2007, 01:04:06 AM
love marvel! especially symbiotes!
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on August 11, 2007, 01:09:07 AM
I was always a fan of Marvel, but in the last 7 years I've been getting into DC, but I still prefer Marvel. I like Marvel movies better too. all DC can come up with is Batman and Superman movies
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: KPT25 on August 11, 2007, 01:12:02 AM
Me too Jay_high19...i´ve never read a Marvel/DC comic i think...
But we cannot compare them a lot...they are different styles and drawings,everything is different...
BTW,remember the bad DC movies like Batman & Robin... :-\,Joel Schumacher nearly killed Batman´s reputation with that one...just awful
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on August 11, 2007, 01:12:32 AM
Well I've never read a comic book so all my knowledge is based of cartoons and movies.
DC has way better cartoons that are more dark and serious. But I'm a die-hard Spidey fan and still quite a young sir so I like Marvel's movies better. DC's are too boring for me. I'd have to say Marvel is where I'm at but DC is not far behind at all.

Theres nothing wrong with being an animated DC fan. Paul Dini wrote Batman the Animated Series into Justice League from 1992-2006, probably the longest running contnued animated drama next to the Simpsons, and Emmy Award Winning on top of it. Marvel is the bigger company, but animated wise nothing has touched Dini's success.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Jay_High19 on August 11, 2007, 01:16:40 AM
Well I've never read a comic book so all my knowledge is based of cartoons and movies.
DC has way better cartoons that are more dark and serious. But I'm a die-hard Spidey fan and still quite a young sir so I like Marvel's movies better. DC's are too boring for me. I'd have to say Marvel is where I'm at but DC is not far behind at all.

Theres nothing wrong with being an animated DC fan. Paul Dini wrote Batman the Animated Series into Justice League from 1992-2006, probably the longest running contnued animated drama next to the Simpsons, and Emmy Award Winning on top of it. Marvel is the bigger company, but animated wise nothing has touched Dini's success.
True, the 95 Spider-man:TAS was the best cartoon Marvel had to offer. Silver Surfer and X-men were alright too. But all put together don't even touch Batman:TAS. All seasons of JL and JLU were great too.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 11, 2007, 01:18:33 AM
I would have to say...
Marvel by far
but I have been picking up alot of comics recently...
see when I was little the only thing I've had to go on was the Cartoons (90's cartoons that is)
ever since then I loved Spider-Man for the cool butt he was
since I've been getting into the comics I see the
pain
fear
ect.
side of it and I've been hooked

same for DC *mostly with Batman*
One of the Amazing comic Series I've ever read was
"Gotham's Finnest"
It's about the Polices' view-point to the Capped Crusaider...
Intresting stuff!!!1
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Monday-Night-Kombat on August 11, 2007, 01:19:10 AM
Marvel beats all. I am a Spidey fan to the fullest. I llove the whole Spiderman series. He's even my room design. Marvel(to me) is more exciting and adventurous than DC
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on August 11, 2007, 01:19:27 AM
I was always a fan of Marvel, but in the last 7 years I've been getting into DC, but I still prefer Marvel. I like Marvel movies better too. all DC can come up with is Batman and Superman movies

What about V, Constantine, and Stardust, with Wonder Woman, Swampthing, and Death comming soon? Marvel whips out dozens of so so adventures that are hard to recognize one from the other. DC does less, but I think are way more artistic, and less bells, and whistles eye candy.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: [Asian-Jesus] on August 11, 2007, 01:31:00 AM
I've been a diehard Marvel fan for half my life *I'm only 16 though*, but in recent times, I've been reading DC comics more and more. *especially superman, so shoot me* Back on topic now. Marvel has the whole "What-If" series that would be great in movie form, especially Spiderman's "The Other".  On the other hand, DC took that idea and made it better with their "Elseworlds" series, with my favorite being Superman's "Red Son" mini-series. So with all that in mind, I'd say that Marvel and DC are pretty much even, unless DC comes out with a new slew of Elseworld comics, then they'd win.  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: BigJ on August 11, 2007, 01:48:08 AM
Well I've never read a comic book so all my knowledge is based of cartoons and movies.
DC has way better cartoons that are more dark and serious. But I'm a die-hard Spidey fan and still quite a young sir so I like Marvel's movies better. DC's are too boring for me. I'd have to say Marvel is where I'm at but DC is not far behind at all.

My knowledge is based on MVC, a couple of eps of the Justice League Now, and the 90's batman cartoon.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Negi Springfield on August 11, 2007, 01:50:57 AM
Well I've never read a comic book so all my knowledge is based of cartoons and movies.
DC has way better cartoons that are more dark and serious. But I'm a die-hard Spidey fan and still quite a young sir so I like Marvel's movies better. DC's are too boring for me. I'd have to say Marvel is where I'm at but DC is not far behind at all.

My knowledge is based on MvC...
You poor poor guy... >.>
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: BigJ on August 11, 2007, 01:52:32 AM
Well I've never read a comic book so all my knowledge is based of cartoons and movies.
DC has way better cartoons that are more dark and serious. But I'm a die-hard Spidey fan and still quite a young sir so I like Marvel's movies better. DC's are too boring for me. I'd have to say Marvel is where I'm at but DC is not far behind at all.

My knowledge is based on MvC...
You poor poor guy... >.>

lol, actually I used to watch the old 90's X-Men cartoon, but I barely remember half the eps so it doesnt really count... :-\
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Epic Win Man on August 11, 2007, 03:43:50 AM
Marvel, mostly due to my exposure to it (my parents have tones of comics, 90% marvel, MvC, the movies, the cartoons, toys, and of course, my two favorite super-heroes are Gambit and Nightcrawler)
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Kev The Galaxybender on August 11, 2007, 08:10:39 AM
at lot of the good information and story about the characters are found in the comic books. DC has a lot more to them than what they show on TV and such, as well as Marvel. A lot of people didn't know that Hulk had healing abilities and he's nearly unstoppable, there were things about Robin (Tim Drake) and the Jokers daughter that I didn't know about. The comics were really good, I suggest people read a few of them, they get really good. 
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on August 11, 2007, 08:58:41 AM
id have to with dc i could never forget the wonderful match ups they put old school superman in and the batman series was ok
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: dvr88 on August 11, 2007, 09:06:14 AM
well i grew up watching the superman animated series but i pefer marvel over dc
i like spiderman but not spiderman 3 like batman begins better
i also like wolverine
however i still like to watch batman animated series and justice league
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: cambionr on August 11, 2007, 01:26:43 PM
I'm probably the biggest comic book geek in this place (over 3,000 paper comic books and somewhere around 13,000 digital scans) and I have moved strongly towards DC in the last ten years.  Marvel held the love of fans so long because of its sharp focus on continuity, everything was so interrelated and well managed (for the most part, I mean Wolvie still was everywhere at once).  But DC has really stepped up to the plate, combine that with the legends who live there, the vetigo line (Seriously if you've never read Sandman or Alan Moores run on Swamp Thing, or Preacher, or Fables for that matter, then go now and read them all...we'll wait) and they are just better.  Still, I never miss an issue of Ennis' Punisher series, that man is a frickin' genius.

Oh, and the Ultimate line was the best out there for years, now though, I just don't know anymore.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Jay_High19 on August 11, 2007, 01:33:37 PM
I'm probably the biggest comic book geek in this place (over 3,000 paper comic books and somewhere around 13,000 digital scans) and I have moved strongly towards DC in the last ten years.  Marvel held the love of fans so long because of its sharp focus on continuity, everything was so interrelated and well managed (for the most part, I mean Wolvie still was everywhere at once).  But DC has really stepped up to the plate, combine that with the legends who live there, the vetigo line (Seriously if you've never read Sandman or Alan Moores run on Swamp Thing, or Preacher, or Fables for that matter, then go now and read them all...we'll wait) and they are just better.  Still, I never miss an issue of Ennis' Punisher series, that man is a frickin' genius.

Oh, and the Ultimate line was the best out there for years, now though, I just don't know anymore.
:o
Nobody's a bigger comic "geek" than Mr. ALEXZIQ.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Reza on August 11, 2007, 02:04:03 PM
I'll have too say that if Cyclops and Superman fight it would be great, because they both get their powers from the sun so lets see who will win if the sun was there....pure hand to hand. :) :P
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: eg6gsr on August 11, 2007, 02:36:34 PM
Ironman vs Green lantern.....cause they are the seem to be on the same level
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!! LVL 16!! on August 11, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
In my oppinion!

If DC and Marvel Worlds  were in a Battle (Again!) Then I think Marvel would win!

But I think DC's comics have better stories!! (READ INFINITE CRISIS!!! ;))
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on August 11, 2007, 08:39:43 PM
I'll have too say that if Cyclops and Superman fight it would be great, because they both get their powers from the sun so lets see who will win if the sun was there....pure hand to hand. :) :P

im pretty sure superman will kill him
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Darkgargos on August 11, 2007, 08:47:49 PM
Well I'm not into either universes that much anymore, comics have changed way too much for me and the comic book industry has become pretty much a dead business, with comic shops shutting down and going out of business. Between the two I'd pick Marvel, the only DC characters I like are Swampthing and Batman. Marvel got pretty boring for me cuz of the slacking story lines and how they just kept resurrecting the various characters when they should have stayed dead. The plots got over used as well.....how many times does the Fantastic Four have fight Dr. Doom....*sigh*....and the whole Spiderman clone saga just confused the hell out of me and I got bored. I love the X-Men, but Marvel kept changing things and making alternate universes and such....*blech*. I just lost faith in Marvel and DC didn't do much for me, so that's when I looked at other options and that's how I found out about Spawn and Image comics and another jewel of a comic company by the name of Chaos! Comics. Both are leaps and bounds above Marvel and DC in plot, art, story telling and character design. I fell in love with these two comic labels, and I loved the darker tone which was more my style. Personally I think these two comic universes could take Marvel and DC any day. I just think the whole Superhero montage has been worn thin, but I still do have an affection for Spiderman and the X-Men, I love the characters, but I just don't read the comics anymore and I don't care for the movies either. I guess this whole thing was about which one do you prefer and If had no other choice but these two it would be Marvel hands down.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: KPT25 on August 11, 2007, 08:53:49 PM
I'll have too say that if Cyclops and Superman fight it would be great, because they both get their powers from the sun so lets see who will win if the sun was there....pure hand to hand. :) :P

im pretty sure superman will kill him

I think i need to give you the upper hand here...Superman has advantage overall against Cyclops...at least in comics...Superman is "bullet proof" as far as i know...i love Cyclops and he`s my favorite X-men(glasses...i was a kid when i first watched the show...the rest is obvious...)
On the other hand...Cyclops can get even on the comics in mugen...Superman could never defeat Cyclops...i don`t know if with Ai patch...but that put this battle even.

Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on August 11, 2007, 11:17:32 PM
I was raised on Marvel, so, I'm a Marvel fan.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Barbary on August 11, 2007, 11:37:42 PM
Ive always been biased toward Marvel. Their super heroes always felt more human to me. I could relate to them. On the DC side, even Batman was hard to relate to.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on August 11, 2007, 11:52:56 PM
I'll have too say that if Cyclops and Superman fight it would be great, because they both get their powers from the sun so lets see who will win if the sun was there....pure hand to hand. :) :P

im pretty sure superman will kill him

I think i need to give you the upper hand here...Superman has advantage overall against Cyclops...at least in comics...Superman is "bullet proof" as far as i know...i love Cyclops and he`s my favorite X-men(glasses...i was a kid when i first watched the show...the rest is obvious...)
On the other hand...Cyclops can get even on the comics in mugen...Superman could never defeat Cyclops...i don`t know if with Ai patch...but that put this battle even.




of course when it comes to mugen cyclops kills superman on every turn but i mean comic-wise
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: The Rippah, Roo'Jizah Panzermanathod on August 12, 2007, 12:51:23 AM
I'll admit that, of the heroes I've seen from both sides, Marvel has the more human characters. Don't take this as a general statement, as it isn't, but my two favorite heroes, one on each side, was Spider-Man, Mr. Problems coming out of his rear, and Batman, Mr. I'm rich and possibly have blood thats 85% caffeine.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: djj4life on August 12, 2007, 05:37:48 PM
I've been reading comics for awhile now!

Spider-Man is my favorite character because I can relate to him more than any other character.

Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: TomBewley on August 12, 2007, 05:46:00 PM
I can relate to the X-men about prejudice (I get a lot of it about my sexuality) and I prefer it for that reason.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on August 12, 2007, 11:13:24 PM
I can relate to the X-men about prejudice (I get a lot of it about my sexuality) and I prefer it for that reason.

I can respect that but DC has a lot of strong gay characters. Grace, Thunder, Bat Woman, Rene Montoya, even Poison Ivy, and Harley dabbled in lesbianism. Pied Piper, and Obsideon, are both Gay characters involved in major books right now. Ive read the X-men for 25 years, and everyone says its so good because its a commentary on prejudice. Thats cool but, its like theres no point to it. I'd rather actually read about diverse characters with "REAL" issues, than character who have these cool powers but have it so bad.

That being said I really did love that book when it was ONE monthly book, 4 weeks couldnt pass fast enough for me.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: TomBewley on August 12, 2007, 11:39:30 PM
I can relate to the X-men about prejudice (I get a lot of it about my sexuality) and I prefer it for that reason.

I can respect that but DC has a lot of strong gay characters. Grace, Thunder, Bat Woman, Rene Montoya, even Poison Ivy, and Harley dabbled in lesbianism. Pied Piper, and Obsideon, are both Gay characters involved in major books right now. Ive read the X-men for 25 years, and everyone says its so good because its a commentary on prejudice. Thats cool but, its like theres no point to it. I'd rather actually read about diverse characters with "REAL" issues, than character who have these cool powers but have it so bad.

That being said I really did love that book when it was ONE monthly book, 4 weeks couldnt pass fast enough for me.

True, true, but I never got into DC. I don't really know why that is. I suppose it was the old 90's shows I watched as a kid. There was F4, Spider-man and X-men, while DC only had that I remember, and it was amazing, Batman. I've started to get into DC recently, particularly Batman. Nothing else from DC really interests me.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Jay_High19 on August 12, 2007, 11:46:58 PM
I think anyone can relate to DC since they have so many characters without powers (Batman, GL, Green Arrow, Riddler, Joker, Question, Speedy, Robin.) The list is really endless.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on August 13, 2007, 03:02:16 AM
I think anyone can relate to DC since they have so many characters without powers (Batman, GL, Green Arrow, Riddler, Joker, Question, Speedy, Robin.) The list is really endless.


yes they dont have power's but they can kick butt that's why i can relate to them
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: egoless_932 on September 02, 2007, 06:57:26 PM
marvel vs dc?  lets think about this for a sec.
DC has better books so they win the comic war. Marvel is all about gimic now. they just put spidey and wolvy in everything to get little kids to buy the books. its not about a good read with them anymore. not to mention how many times they bite ideas from DC (examples:identity crisis to identity disc. world war 3 to world war hulk)

if you are talkin about in a fight i dont think there should be any arguement.DC hands down simply for the fact that superman could problably take out most of the marvel universe by himself, let alone having such characters as batman,wonder woman, flash, shazam, green lantern (all of em!), as well as the many other A-game heroes in his roster.


Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: egoless_932 on September 02, 2007, 07:06:04 PM
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Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: AkumaTh on September 02, 2007, 07:07:19 PM
For me, it's pretty much whatever gets my interest. My return to buying comics came with Civil War and Marvel Zombies. But my latest purchase got me one from Marvel, one from Dark Horse, one from Archie, one from DDP and two from DC.

And thanks to buying and reading Emperor Joker the day before seeing the Simpsons movie, it made the movie less memorable.

But in a fight, DC will win. Batman has the best Win/Lost Record in any comic book. Heck, he beaten Superman, Joker, Carnage and the Hulk!
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Sub-Zero on September 02, 2007, 07:19:00 PM
the thing about DC vs M

marvel makes there strongest lose on purpous


marvel always holds back there characters until there breaking point like annialation

galactus has always been portrayed as lazy but in the begining of that universe he killed like 5 ppl who where his lvl in power and imprisoned 2

and he held back abraxas

and he keeps the universe in order

they always do retcon's 

so u cant really rely on the older comics
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: 1nonly on September 02, 2007, 07:44:59 PM
well im pretty much both
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on September 02, 2007, 08:23:59 PM
there are some marvel dc comics lets see there is superman vs hulk and there was spiderman vs batman and the teen titans teamed up with the xmen to take out dark side from super man and dark phoneix also night man teamed up wit wolverine a couple of times so did batman and wolverine
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 03:06:04 PM
Some reasons why Batman isnt just a guy for ya in full color. If you dont read DC or Comics in general here ya go. Notice Batman fights Cap hand to hand, and tells him you "could" beat me, even though Batman pretty much wooped him in DC vs Marvel accept for the stupid voting fiasco

http://members.tripod.com/agent0x7/crossovers.html
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Spidermew on September 04, 2007, 03:23:16 PM
I think its quite obvious that im a big marvel fan.
Ive always related to Peter Parker and his problems.
Unfortunatly i havnt been able to keep up with comics for quite some time (due to money issues)
My friend has recently had me read Identity Crisis and that was pritty good actualy, but i just cant really conect myself with dc characters.
And i was never a fan of someone who was invincable, thats why i dont really like superman.
Yeah he's got a weakness, redsunlight and a rare green rock from a dead planet, but thats only if he's in his home dimension (just look at superboy prime)
Ive been studying DC though wikipedia for an upcoming game a friend of mine is going to run, and well i can start to see its apeal to people, i used to be a diehard marvel boy who wouldnt even give dc a chance.
But now ive seen the value in dc.
But still, "MAKE MINE MARVEL"  :)
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 03:32:39 PM
Even DC fans dont like Superman because of his omnipotence. Thats why we always root for Batman to use science to whoop him in every tale out there.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: StarXS on September 04, 2007, 04:32:04 PM
Even DC fans dont like Superman because of his omnipotence. Thats why we always root for Batman to use science to whoop him in every tale out there.

I like Superman, hell he's the reason I started reading DC... right before Doomsday, when the writers really didn't know where to go with his direction... Supes has relatable stories (at least I can relate) but when peeps say Batman can't beat him, I show them these 2 pics:

(http://i12.tinypic.com/674caip.jpg)

(http://i5.tinypic.com/4dpe692.jpg)

Hey, even if there was some green k around, Bats still used that to his advantage
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Spidermew on September 04, 2007, 04:51:18 PM
Even DC fans dont like Superman because of his omnipotence. Thats why we always root for Batman to use science to whoop him in every tale out there.

I like Superman, hell he's the reason I started reading DC... right before Doomsday, when the writers really didn't know where to go with his direction... Supes has relatable stories (at least I can relate) but when peeps say Batman can't beat him, I show them these 2 pics:

(http://i12.tinypic.com/674caip.jpg)

(http://i5.tinypic.com/4dpe692.jpg)

Hey, even if there was some green k around, Bats still used that to his advantage

Of corse batman can beat superman, from what ive come to understand bats is the keeper of weeknesses, the only human in the league, he's the one trusted with all the secrets to stop everone in the league.
Im sure batman always has a lil kryptonite tucked away in a lil led box on his belt.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ♦ßlôödÑinjå♦ on September 04, 2007, 05:01:09 PM
Even DC fans dont like Superman because of his omnipotence. Thats why we always root for Batman to use science to whoop him in every tale out there.

I like Superman, hell he's the reason I started reading DC... right before Doomsday, when the writers really didn't know where to go with his direction... Supes has relatable stories (at least I can relate) but when peeps say Batman can't beat him, I show them these 2 pics:

(http://i12.tinypic.com/674caip.jpg)

(http://i5.tinypic.com/4dpe692.jpg)

Hey, even if there was some green k around, Bats still used that to his advantage

Of corse batman can beat superman, from what ive come to understand bats is the keeper of weeknesses, the only human in the league, he's the one trusted with all the secrets to stop everone in the league.
Im sure batman always has a lil kryptonite tucked away in a lil led box on his belt.

(http://www.jlanimated.com/episodes/twilightpart1/twilight0368.jpg) superman looks a little scared
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 05:21:17 PM
Heh, I like Supes too. Just part of me still hates the old Silver Age invincible God that could toss planets like basket balls. Once the DCU merged in 85 I was glad he was put in Thor Class strength, it made him a much more interesting character being more in Marvels power house range.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: XerXes on September 04, 2007, 05:27:24 PM
I at first was a little intimidated to answer in this thread because i wanted to the best of my ability to answer this
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Since I was a kid there seems to have been a role reversal where Marvel seems to be the company that appeals more the young, and DC has become very serious and adult company (a reflection of Vertigo's influence I believe) Compare V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, and Constantine to Spiderman 3, Ghost Rider, and Fantastic 4, theres a big contrast there. I'm not saying either preference is right, Im curious what everyone else thinks....

I agree i havent been into comics for awhile(Got into mugen 3 years ago and have been hooked ever since)so i really cant answer in terms of Marvels continuity
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seems to have been a role reversal where Marvel seems to be the company that appeals more the young
. But what i can say is that i have been getting into ultimate marvel and i can say from my observation that ultimate line has definitly not only appealed to the youth but all ages. EX: ultimate spider-man=youth, ultimate x-men=teen+mature, ultimate fantastic four=teen+mature, ultimates=mature.(And i am only commenting on these cause i have read all of the current issues).
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DC has become very serious and adult company
I always thought DC was serious in terms of there content. I only really like'd there villians like Joker,superboy prime,darkseid. But just like im getting into marvels alternate line im also getting into DC's and im really liking the direction being taken with DC allstars(Especially allstar superman). And i am feeling there new green lantern corps vs sinestro corps saga.(http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/GreenLantern/Sinestro/SinestroCorpscvr_t.jpg)(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/ff/180px-4153_400x600.jpg) But i have to admit im a little dissapointed that it really is only the sinestro corps in name and that the anti-monitor is the real big cheese  >:(
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: xsabin on September 04, 2007, 05:58:08 PM
i like more of marvel,only now i really started with DC
i also didnt read comics,but i started last year(lately i grabbed a torrent with spider-man from the first edition to 535,spidey was A LOT DIFFERENT!!!)
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 06:07:28 PM
Make mine marvel. If you say that DC is more mature only by comparing movies may I suggest watching the Punisher. That movie was grit to the bone. Also comic wise (I am HUGE marvel fan. Particularly Iron Man.) alot of marvel books being published aren't really kid stuff. Read the entire Annihilation series. A bunch of bugs ripping apart aliens decimating planets. Iron Man, people being ripped apart being blasted apart. (Iron Man 1-6 and Iron Man #18-19.) Terror Inc has me hooked because of the first issue alone! In that issue people's heads are ripped off and attached to a new body, people are shot at by thousands of rounds reducing him to a pile of sludge on the floor. Marvel isn't for kids (except Power Pack and their Adventures line. Plus DC seems too overpowered. Flash, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern(and the corps) Shazam, Captain Marvel. Etc. While Marvel only has a few major hitters that are even near those levels. Galactus, Living Tribunal, One above all, Beyonder. And those are cosmic beings that don't show up very often. And are usually evil. Except for the 2 and 3rd. Batman is my favorite DC.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: XerXes on September 04, 2007, 06:07:55 PM
OMG  @-)
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first edition to 535
Do you know how long that will take.

 >:-(-|:  what issue are you up to

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(I am HUGE marvel fan. Particularly Iron Man.)
yeah but did you see how Hulk pwn'd him recently it was kind of sad  :'(
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Sub-Zero on September 04, 2007, 06:13:36 PM
in my opinion Marvel is as dark as DC

it always has been just hasnt been there forte mean the hulk for instance he has had a crap load of stuff happen to him even before WWH

cuz he has married a queen from another planet b4 only to see here crushed  saving a kid

and spiderman, wolverine
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: XerXes on September 04, 2007, 06:18:18 PM
I like'd Hulk when he had bruce's brain and hulks body though.   ??? :o :-&
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Sub-Zero on September 04, 2007, 06:21:15 PM
I like'd Hulk when he had bruce's brain and hulks body though.   ??? :o :-&
o u liked wen he wuz the proffeser

ya he wuz pretty kool
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 06:27:31 PM
Yeah. Proff Hulk was cool. I like Joe Fixit better...and Maestro! WWH is cool too.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 06:53:19 PM
in my opinion Marvel is as dark as DC

it always has been just hasnt been there forte mean the hulk for instance he has had a sh*t load of stuff happen to him even before WWH

cuz he has married a queen from another planet b4 only to see here crushed  saving a kid

and spiderman, wolverine

That doesnt even touch Vertigo stuff like Sandman, Animal Man, Swampthing, Constantine, or Shade. Marvel has tried a dozen time to start a mature, or horror line, and has failed horribley. They tried making Nightmare into a Sandman monthly years ago, uhg. Its just a company that appeals to less to mature reader fans. I think if DC owned Blade it would be a strong 2nd string ongoing. While it may be dark, it just doesnt hold that kinda rep, at least not in the same league with DC's supetnatural titles.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: XerXes on September 04, 2007, 06:53:38 PM
I bet you sentry is going to be the one who is going to end the WWH series dispite his lack of action at the moment
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7781/250pxsentryresizekz3.jpg)
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4030/250pxwwhgq0.png)
Damn i stand corrected (Cover art #5)
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Marvel has tried a dozen time to start a mature
I dont agree with this on the bases that in the ultimates Ant-Man is a wife beater(And yes i know this is just content from a couple of issues but it is still mature and graphic)
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or horror line
I do agree with this though
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
I bet you sentry is going to be the one who is going to end the WWH series dispite his lack of action at the moment
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7781/250pxsentryresizekz3.jpg)
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4030/250pxwwhgq0.png)

I just dont care for WW Hurl  :-&, lets villianize more beloved Marvel Icons
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: AceWonder20 on September 04, 2007, 07:03:58 PM
Im a Marvel fan to the death but Batman is my favorite hero.  Conflict much?  I just prefer Marvel as a whole.  DC is pretty boring imo.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 07:04:33 PM
See though Ant-Man 0r Hank smacking around Janet is old hat from the 70's. I wouldnt really say thats a mature reader book when the idea was explored in the regular avengers books 30 years ago
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Sub-Zero on September 04, 2007, 07:09:02 PM
i dont no why ppl say marvel is for kids -.-

superman ia dam boyscout

and batman is sum dude who lost his dam parents
in my opinion wolverine could whoop batman ne day of the week

o and like the civil war wasnt dark with all that junk goin on just cuz u dont see ppl cuttin them selves doesnt mean its not dark

Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: XerXes on September 04, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
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See though Ant-Man 0r Hank smacking around Janet is old hat from the 70's. I wouldnt really say thats a mature reader book when the idea was explored in the regular avengers books 30 years ago
True but you cant deny that the content isnt intended for mature readers though, whether is was explored 30 years ago or now. And i have to admit i didnt imagine hulk being this great of a threat but it does make sence considering the madder he gets the stronger he gets, and that whole healing factor thing 2
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 07:26:04 PM
Thunderbolts is another Dark title. Come on. Venom ate a guys arm two issues ago. That not mature enough? You just have to look. Penance a guy who purposely hurts himself to gain power not gritty enough either? He wears a suit with 612 spikes in it to pierce himself. 
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: XerXes on September 04, 2007, 07:33:37 PM
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Penance a guy who purposely hurts himself to gain power
Yeah you mean this guy(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2759/penancetboltspk8.png). This was said about him and the suit
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While his powers are still kinetically based, they no longer appear to manifest as a "bubble field." Rather, his powers seem far more explosive in nature. In order to stimulate his powers, his Penance suit constantly rakes his flesh; Baldwin tolerates this to an almost Masochistic degree, once stating that he would 'Wear [the suit] all the time if I could'
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Sub-Zero on September 04, 2007, 07:53:01 PM
my fav chars are Thanos galactus Eternity hulk flash

Superman ONLY in the cartoons cuz wen he fights in cartoon he is put down to size that he should be in comics

Thor
Loki
Iceman
Gambit
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 07:55:04 PM
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Penance a guy who purposely hurts himself to gain power
Yeah you mean this guy(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2759/penancetboltspk8.png). This was said about him and the suit
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While his powers are still kinetically based, they no longer appear to manifest as a "bubble field." Rather, his powers seem far more explosive in nature. In order to stimulate his powers, his Penance suit constantly rakes his flesh; Baldwin tolerates this to an almost Masochistic degree, once stating that he would 'Wear [the suit] all the time if I could'

yeah. he's the one.
My favs are
Iron Man
Firepower
Hulk
Venom
Thor
Magneto
Nova Prime
Galactus
Carnage/Rest of symbiotes(lasher, Toxin, Hybrid, etc)
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Alexziq on September 04, 2007, 08:06:55 PM
i dont no why ppl say marvel is for kids -.-

superman ia dam boyscout

and batman is sum dude who lost his dam parents
in my opinion wolverine could whoop batman ne day of the week

o and like the civil war wasnt dark with all that junk goin on just cuz u dont see ppl cuttin them selves doesnt mean its not dark



Like Spiderman is like every snot nosed nerd, and uh Cap? Talk about Boyscout.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 08:13:40 PM
i dont no why ppl say marvel is for kids -.-

superman ia dam boyscout

and batman is sum dude who lost his dam parents
in my opinion wolverine could whoop batman ne day of the week

o and like the civil war wasnt dark with all that junk goin on just cuz u dont see ppl cuttin them selves doesnt mean its not dark



Like Spiderman is like every snot nosed nerd, and uh Cap? Talk about Boyscout.
well Peter is going on a rampage ever since Aunt May got shot. and Cap may be a boyscout but I hear in Ultimates (don't read it) he is hardcore.
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Sub-Zero on September 04, 2007, 08:40:39 PM
uh Cap america aint no boyscout if u read civil war -.-

n he wus a U.S soldier in the 60s  how else is he supposed to act  :-w
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: Spidermew on September 04, 2007, 09:15:29 PM
i dont no why ppl say marvel is for kids -.-

superman ia dam boyscout

and batman is sum dude who lost his dam parents
in my opinion wolverine could whoop batman ne day of the week

o and like the civil war wasnt dark with all that junk goin on just cuz u dont see ppl cuttin them selves doesnt mean its not dark



Like Spiderman is like every snot nosed nerd, and uh Cap? Talk about Boyscout.

HEY!! Just cuz air pressure changes in the afternoon often make my nose runny, dosnt mean all nerds are snot nosed, just some of us.... LOL
Title: Re: Marvel vs DC who and why?
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 09:18:49 PM
uh Cap america aint no boyscout if u read civil war -.-

n he wus a U.S soldier in the 60s  how else is he supposed to act  :-w
yeah. Tricking Iron Man into shaking his hand and using an emp. that was low.
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