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Title: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 11, 2007, 09:31:01 AM
Go Here To Make You Own Cards!
http://www.yugiohcardmaker.net/
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Here Are All Of Mine ( I Think I Made To Much...)
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(http://i19.tinypic.com/4tgcxhw.jpg) (http://i14.tinypic.com/4r2t3br.jpg)
(http://i8.tinypic.com/5227p4w.jpg) (http://i10.tinypic.com/6akpi55.jpg)
(http://i16.tinypic.com/5ya47d0.jpg) (http://i14.tinypic.com/4pl5isn.jpg)
(http://i11.tinypic.com/6hepxet.jpg) (http://i7.tinypic.com/4utkppy.jpg)
(http://i9.tinypic.com/4t5wfv4.jpg) (http://i7.tinypic.com/4kulg5i.jpg)
(http://i9.tinypic.com/4q4jp15.jpg) (http://i7.tinypic.com/66ls0vp.jpg)
(http://i19.tinypic.com/522lzpz.jpg) (http://i19.tinypic.com/6co2vsx.jpg)
(http://i17.tinypic.com/6d1yr6e.jpg) (http://i15.tinypic.com/4yhg3s1.jpg)
(http://i19.tinypic.com/68i5abl.jpg) (http://i12.tinypic.com/4u0exlf.jpg)
(http://i13.tinypic.com/4mmljzp.jpg) (http://i13.tinypic.com/5xes9zc.jpg)
(http://i13.tinypic.com/4zncubr.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Aura-Master on August 11, 2007, 10:12:30 AM
darn, i have to join that place :-[
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: KPT25 on August 11, 2007, 10:34:06 AM
In fact,there´s no need to...just clic on generate and right clic on the pic of the finished card...that´s how i made my avatar :D
i´m gonna post it up here so you can see it better...
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: quim on August 11, 2007, 12:09:00 PM
(http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07326/cham.png)(http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07326/cham2.png)
I can't stop :-X
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: ZBOY on August 11, 2007, 12:53:12 PM
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h85/ZBOY09/9504c725.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Reza on August 11, 2007, 01:19:28 PM
Here's a couple of cards i made awhile back. ;D
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3950/ehsmphpfy7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us) (http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/249/emcmphpeg8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 11, 2007, 06:01:22 PM
Here's some cards from my collection  ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/DarkSchneider.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/CurseoftheSpawn.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Godzilla.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/LadyDeathChaos.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Spawn.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/MegamanZero.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Witchblade.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/RyuSuper.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Blanka.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/SamusAran.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: nick09 on August 11, 2007, 06:21:57 PM
ehhh...my first card....
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/344/createcardyp6.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 11, 2007, 09:02:37 PM
Here's more  ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/VampireHunterD.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Onslaught.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Spider-Man.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/RogueDragon.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Morrigan.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Lilith.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/LadyDemon.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/LadyDeath.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Felicia.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/DarkSkullDemon.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Akuma.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Chun-LiAlpha.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Ðarious on August 11, 2007, 09:11:29 PM
:D

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q292/slaborde/createcard.php.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: OnslaughtX on August 11, 2007, 09:11:50 PM
I only made one,lol,im too lazy.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/AlphaZero65/EvilRyuYu-gi-ohCard.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 11, 2007, 10:46:39 PM
Here's another serving  ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Zero.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Wolverine.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/SpawntheDivine.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/ShadowofRevenge.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Sagat.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/MegamanX.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Magneto.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/DarkElf.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: inspecterclouseau on August 12, 2007, 06:54:53 PM
(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/juggy.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/iccc.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/homer.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/dark.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/beer.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/link.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/mushi.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/peter.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/oth2.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/slink.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/stan.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/woric.jpg)

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/inspecterclouseau1/Mugen/quag.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: TomBewley on August 12, 2007, 07:29:50 PM
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/tombewley/fan.png)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u90/tombewley/poison.png)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 07:42:26 PM
Got more here  ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Raphael.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Michaelangelo.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Leonardo.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Donatello.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/TurtlePower.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/Scorpion.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/RedDragon.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/ChaosDragon-1.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/AkumaofChaos.jpg)(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb233/darkgargos/MechaDarkKnight.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 07:44:03 PM
WOAH...............
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 07:49:35 PM
I swear making these cards has become a little hobby for me, Ive already posted most of my collection that I've done....looks like I got more work to do ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 07:51:00 PM
I swear making these cards has become a little hobby for me, Ive already posted most of my collection that I've done....looks like I got more work to do ;D
yea their awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 07:53:42 PM
I swear making these cards has become a little hobby for me, Ive already posted most of my collection that I've done....looks like I got more work to do ;D
yea their awesome! ;D

Thanks, searching for the right pics isn't exactly easy or what text to put in, I don't like to rush these little beauties.
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
I swear making these cards has become a little hobby for me, Ive already posted most of my collection that I've done....looks like I got more work to do ;D
yea their awesome! ;D

Thanks, searching for the right pics isn't exactly easy or what text to put in, I don't like to rush these little beauties.
i should do that too but im not on my laptop right now.....
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 08:00:54 PM
I swear making these cards has become a little hobby for me, Ive already posted most of my collection that I've done....looks like I got more work to do ;D
yea their awesome! ;D

Thanks, searching for the right pics isn't exactly easy or what text to put in, I don't like to rush these little beauties.
i should do that too but im not on my laptop right now.....

They are real fun to make, and I always save them to my computer. I'm trying to build a big collection of them, cuz for me this is a form of art and I'm an artist and I love to create ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 08:03:20 PM
as i said before as the nightmare

Quote from: The Mugen Nightmare
If We make enough cards we'll be able to make our own yugioh card game!
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: oglocdx10 on August 12, 2007, 08:04:11 PM
lol i knew someone would start this up again
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 08:14:09 PM
as i said before as the nightmare

Quote from: The Mugen Nightmare
If We make enough cards we'll be able to make our own yugioh card game!


That would be really awesome to make a custom made yugioh card game with all the cards made, I think it would be more fun with all these various fan made cards rather than be stuck with just Official Yugioh cards. Would be a really interesting game indeed ;) ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 08:19:39 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 08:25:12 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 08:25:52 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
me too
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 08:33:17 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
me too

I understand things visually, which is why I just stick to what I know and do artwork....numbers and math hurt my brain :-[ I'm thinking of getting into sprite work however  ;)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 08:34:43 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
me too

I understand things visually, which is why I just stick to what I know and do artwork....numbers and math hurt my brain :-[ I'm thinking of getting into sprite work however  ;)
yea im trying to learn sprite works but i really don't understand complicated things
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 08:43:43 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
me too

I understand things visually, which is why I just stick to what I know and do artwork....numbers and math hurt my brain :-[ I'm thinking of getting into sprite work however  ;)
yea im trying to learn sprite works but i really don't understand complicated things


Same here buddy ;) I actually have learning disability's that prevent me from understanding various things..especially complicated subjects like math and such....I always got made fun of in school cuz of my disability :-[ but boy I sure can draw though ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on August 12, 2007, 08:45:26 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
me too

I understand things visually, which is why I just stick to what I know and do artwork....numbers and math hurt my brain :-[ I'm thinking of getting into sprite work however  ;)
yea im trying to learn sprite works but i really don't understand complicated things


Same here buddy ;) I actually have learning disability's that prevent me from understanding various things..especially complicated subjects like math and such....I always got made fun of in school cuz of my disability :-[ but boy I sure can draw though ;D
Drawings Fun! =P
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 08:48:38 PM
yea but im no good at codeing a game..........
hmmm.......................................................

Neither am I, which is why I haven't created any mugen chars. I tried to understand coding, but it is too much for me. 
me too

I understand things visually, which is why I just stick to what I know and do artwork....numbers and math hurt my brain :-[ I'm thinking of getting into sprite work however  ;)
yea im trying to learn sprite works but i really don't understand complicated things


Same here buddy ;) I actually have learning disability's that prevent me from understanding various things..especially complicated subjects like math and such....I always got made fun of in school cuz of my disability :-[ but boy I sure can draw though ;D
Drawings Fun! =P

It sure is ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: MaverickZr0 on August 12, 2007, 09:55:16 PM
Here are my old cards:

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/MegamanX.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Zero.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Sigma.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Vile.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Jedah.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Bass.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Shoryuken.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Shinkuu-1.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/ShinkuuHadoken.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/QuickmanEX.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Tenguman.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/dOUBLEBLAST-1.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Maverickwar.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/CardTetsuo.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Card-1.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Zelloooo.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/DVRitual.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/DarkVirusZero.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/SurpriseAttack.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/ZeroVirus.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/DecisiveBattle.jpg)(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/Messatsu_Hadouken/Recklessmove.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Darkgargos on August 12, 2007, 10:07:08 PM
You make really cool cards Zero, nice to see your old one's back up  ;D
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: SanjiSasuke on August 13, 2007, 02:29:57 AM
Homer
(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4055/homersimpsonyx2.jpg)

Marge
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/982/margesimpsonpngset17529ei8.jpg)

Bart
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3838/bartsimpsonjpgset165446ty4.jpg)

Lisa
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3190/500pxlisasimpsonyp6.jpg)

Bart's Slingshot
(http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1365/23326340jpgset168547sethi5.jpg)

Duff
(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1198/duffbeercards2ljpgset17lp5.jpg)

Books
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2626/pileofbooksjpgset189589te0.jpg)

Loving Mother(Ran out of ideas for Marge)
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2654/250pxcsimpfamilypngset1mj2.jpg)

Springfield(A Field card, we haven't had many, but this is more: It's a SPRING FIELD card  ;) )
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7904/springfieldposterljpgsevt5.jpg)

Well is is nearly 3:00AM but I might make more later.
Title: Plan
Post by: SanjiSasuke on August 15, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
MORE! I am making a deck, a real-ish one with about 40 cards. Also I am adding Human/Simpson on the old ones instead of just Human. And changing spring field so it works on all Simpson universe people.

Kang and Kodos
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4870/kangkodosjpgset198706seip3.jpg)

Maggie
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2748/charakterseitemaggiegifse0.jpg)

Milhouse
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9154/milhousevanhoutenpngsetqk0.jpg)

Snake
(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6859/snakegifset198700set243yx3.jpg)

Chief Wiggum
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7919/wiggumgungifset198790seih9.jpg)

Willie
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7463/williegifset198790set24im2.jpg)

Super Willie(not many images)
(http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9676/superwilliewt6sh5.jpg)

Apu
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2867/apusmilegifset198778setmo7.jpg)

Ralph
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9724/ralphgifset198772set241qn4.jpg)

Pink Donut
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7998/pinkdonutjpgset198772sejg6.jpg)

HALF A REAL DECK! WHOO HOO!

Edit: MORE Simpsons...

The best show in the Simpsons
(http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/2271/250pxistitlecardpngset1vf9.jpg)

Scratchy
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6568/scratchythecatminipngseoi1.jpg)

And Itchy
(http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1049/itchygunscanjpgset19525jj6.jpg)

Dark power!
(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5007/homergrimgifset195656seah8.jpg)

Radioactive man
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8066/radioactivexr8.jpg)

And the big guy of the deck: THE CREATOR OF THE SERIES
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9585/groeningjpgset108958setls9.jpg)

Lenny
(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6945/lennygifset190907set246iv4.jpg)

Carl
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5638/500pxcarlcarlsonpngset1fr2.jpg)

KRUSTY
(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9523/krusty7gifset199068set2os3.jpg)

Re-done Firsts(new type says Simpson/Human now, same with the other 3)
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4310/bartsimpsonjpgset165446sx7.jpg)
(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6276/homersimpsondi8.jpg)
(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8899/500pxlisasimpsonta1.jpg)
(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9466/margesimpsonpngset17529zf3.jpg)

AND a brand new effect for springfield
(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3348/springfieldposterljpgseal5.jpg)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Jangles: The Moon Monkey on November 04, 2007, 10:51:48 PM
bump >:P

(http://yugiohcardmaker.net/createcard.php?name=orochi&cardtype=Ritual&divine=false&effect=false&attribute=Dark&level=12&magictraptype=None&rarity=Ultimate%20Rare&picture=http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/english/character/img/main_v_orochi_e.jpg&set1=35432&set2=87998&type=Divine-butt%20kicking%20god&description=sacrifice%20anything%20%3Ao%0Aif%20this%20card%20is%20in%20your%20deck%2C%20your%20opponent's%20head%20will%20explode%20o_0%0A%0Areally%20it%20will%20%3AD&circulation=6543437465436874&atk=INF.&def=INF.&creator=god&year=%3F%3F%3F%3F&serial=82279356)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Magma MK-II on November 05, 2007, 10:44:09 AM
Some Brazilian Cards, hehehe:
(http://images.uncyc.org/pt/6/62/Didi.jpg)
(http://images.uncyc.org/pt/c/cd/Jeremias_Jos%C3%A9_card.jpg)
(http://images.uncyc.org/pt/2/22/Lindomarygo.png)
(http://imagem.uncyc.org/pt/5/58/Demitido.png)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Spidermew on November 05, 2007, 12:26:15 PM
Ill do more later

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/SpiderMew/SpiderMewCard.gif)
Title: Re: Make Your Own Yugioh Cards O.O
Post by: Sync The Tempest on November 05, 2007, 12:37:52 PM
Holy poop my old topic
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