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Title: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 01, 2007, 08:22:20 PM
Im tired of the us agent that only has a pal change so I decided to make one by myself.
here's some screenies.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/USA1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/USA2.jpg)

so do you think its worth the try? :|

PD heres some of the attacks he will have.

-Shield Slash
-Chargin Star

Hypers
Im only sure Hyper Charging Star.

ill keep adding more attacks
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: desgrav on September 01, 2007, 08:33:33 PM
I like most of him except his shield.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 01, 2007, 08:53:42 PM
I think you should do the version of us agent that had an energy shield... (so as to not look like a cap clone)

The energy sheld was produced by his gauntlets and instead of throwing his shield he did an energy burst.
If you did this, that means you wont have to worry about the code to have a sheild loose, also you would still be able to do the charging star.

And with that you could also improvize a few new moves based on the energy producing gauntlents.

Ever see the Bable II OAV? The main character has an attack where he grabs someone with one hand (usualy at the wrists but with John Walker's agressive personality he should grab him by the neck)
And the enemy would be envolped in this big energy flame that caused allot of pain and screaming...

If you go to the energy gauntlet rout he should have this move, it would be cool
And it would help set him apart form captian america
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 01, 2007, 09:23:04 PM
well umm.. thats going to be some hard work but let me see what can I do
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: PuReEvil0z on September 01, 2007, 10:02:35 PM
well.. the idea is nice and all.. but you pretty much doing what you don't like about the other one.. you just changed his chest and made the shield look badly done, you said you didn't want just a pal swap but thats pretty much what this is. you should change his pose and attacks don't add the captain america ones :(|) good luck on him though
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: R.I.C.O - Teros on September 01, 2007, 10:06:47 PM
The logo on his chest looks flat. Add some shading in that area.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 01, 2007, 10:45:22 PM
anyone has a pick of the us agent with the energy shield?
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 01, 2007, 10:56:54 PM
Cap also had to use a simular shield at one point, heres a pic of that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Capenergyshield.jpg

but from what i remember, U.S Agent's version was pinkish and not the cap colored energy one like in the pic...

Sorry but i couldnt find in image of U.S Agent's energy shield
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Nutty-Da-Kid on September 01, 2007, 11:02:05 PM
i fu make him mvc2 style i bet u he will pwn there has never been a mvc2 us agent before that would be great
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: desgrav on September 01, 2007, 11:03:27 PM
Give him a different stance and make him look like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAGENTN.JPG
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 01, 2007, 11:07:19 PM
Give him a different stance and make him look like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USAGENTN.JPG

It looked like he was already trying to do that (just look at the select portrate)

Anyhoo i would also suggest using a lil more purple in the shade to help him look more like the image

(keeping the lighter color the gray you have there but making the second lightest and/or third lightest a shade of purple

I know the image has no appeaence of purple but it might help make it look simular, being a dark color.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: desgrav on September 01, 2007, 11:29:09 PM
Okay make it look more like this.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/tteer/usagsigngg2.gif)
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 01, 2007, 11:41:58 PM
Okay make it look more like this.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/tteer/usagsigngg2.gif)

If another team is using the Falcon Shield for a project i dont think he should.
That would seem like he was coppying them dont you think?
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: AkumaTh on September 01, 2007, 11:48:21 PM
I say go for the energy shield. It'll be easier to code since you don't have to worry about the losing shield code (at least I think it's easier). And more attack options and super moves.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: desgrav on September 01, 2007, 11:54:21 PM
Okay make it look more like this.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a376/tteer/usagsigngg2.gif)

If another team is using the Falcon Shield for a project i dont think he should.
That would seem like he was coppying them dont you think?
I said look like. He should do what they did except for the shield.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: god_king on September 02, 2007, 02:49:00 AM
Im tired of the us agent that only has a pal change so I decided to make one by myself.
here's some screenies.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/USA1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/USA2.jpg)

so do you think its worth the try? :|

PD heres some of the attacks he will have.

-Shield Slash
-Chargin Star

Hypers
Im only sure Hyper Charging Star.

ill keep adding more attacks

Contrary to what some of the others here have said, I think you should keep the metal shield, though you should lose the star on it; currently, in the comics, he has a shield with a simple black circle in the middle, which works well, visually.

If you intend to re-work any of the voice or mannerisms of the character, it might be interesting to go to the original idea behind the character. He was created during the Ronald Reagan/Bush 1 era, and was an answer to the right-wing jingoism of the time; he was kind of meant as a satire of the extreme right-wing nut-jobs who were the most enthusiastic supporters of those administrations (and needless to say, he fits right in with the times today). You could create some really fun dialogue for him along these lines.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: DrZaius on September 02, 2007, 11:43:28 AM
In the Civil War: The Initiative cover, his shield still has the star... unless he just recently got rid of it.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 02, 2007, 01:05:19 PM
Well first thanks to everyone for your ideas. I Started the new char with the energy shield
heres a pic
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/sofar.jpg)
It still needs the logo and a color change in his energy shield i hope i can bring more info and pìcks for tomorrow
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 02, 2007, 01:07:15 PM
Well first thanks to everyone for your ideas. I Started the new char with the energy shield
heres a pic
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/sofar.jpg)
It still needs the logo and a color change in his energy shield i hope i can bring more info and pìcks for tomorrow

Yeah there we go! Thats awsome, most people wont realize thats the same character but it is.
I think this is a great rout to go and im looking forward to it
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 02, 2007, 06:21:59 PM
well here it is withnew palete and logo! ;)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/Dbc309/usa3.png)
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Error Macro on September 02, 2007, 07:16:15 PM
What the hell is the difference between MvC2 style and regular MvC style?!
MvC2 has:

Snapback
Different effects
4 buttons to attack, 2 buttons for assists:
Assists are HP, and HK
MP and MK, are now HP, and HK


Different sound effects
different assist types
The ability to be able to punch an opponent off screen and have their teammate jump in afterwards.
Servbot ;D

(More stuff I may have forgotten.)
----------------------

I'm not trying to start anything, but you asked. :P :D
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: thelovebelow82 on September 04, 2007, 02:16:04 AM
This is great.  Even if he turns out to be not much more than a costume change, I like it.  I'm sick of looking at my black suited Captain America re-named to US Agent, so this is a welcome change.  I like your first version, except there was something wrong with the shield (Which has been pointed out already, so I'll leave it at that).  I really like what you have going now.  I can imagine some cool afterimage effects with the shield attacks.  Please keep us posted on this.

I gotta say, just viewing those few pics, I'm highly anticipating this character.  Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: ironstark on September 04, 2007, 11:01:29 AM
yeah. US Agent is a great idea. I don't really play much as Captain america but was his Nomad, Captain and Stark created shield usable?
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 04, 2007, 07:32:10 PM
well now im trying to add an electric shock effect on the shield slash. im also going slow because of school i only have like 3 sprites ended and the big portrait
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 04, 2007, 09:08:54 PM
yeah. US Agent is a great idea. I don't really play much as Captain america but was his Nomad, Captain and Stark created shield usable?

The only shield cap has used so far in fighting games is the clasic one.
Which is why this one is perfict with the energy one!

Quote
well now im trying to add an electric shock effect on the shield slash. im also going slow because of school i only have like 3 sprites ended and the big portrait

This is my favorate site to get any sort of effect
http://www.sprites-inc.co.uk/
Its an open source mega man sprite archive, check out some of the x or battle network sprites, i think you'll find some good effects in there
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 10, 2007, 01:45:36 PM
Remember what i said before about the attack were he could grab the enemy by the neck or something and do this neato energy attack, like form the anime Babel II
Well heres a clip of that for ya.

[youtube=425,350]dfuFFIxpnuM[/youtube]
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Claudio on September 11, 2007, 07:10:37 AM
Isnt the shield with the wrong colors?

I remember it being like this:
(http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/US_Agent.jpeg)
(just hope the image shows)

anyways, good luck with him!
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Spidermew on September 11, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Isnt the shield with the wrong colors?

I remember it being like this:
(http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/US_Agent.jpeg)
(just hope the image shows)

anyways, good luck with him!

Thats if he were going with that verson of US Agent, which would end up being a slightly edited version of cap.
So as to have his creation stand out he's going with the time when the Agent had the energy shield
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: desgrav on September 11, 2007, 07:09:02 PM
Are you going to give him any custom moves.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Super Senseless Violent Man on September 11, 2007, 08:59:20 PM
Are you going to give him any custom moves.

If he would'nt then us agent would just be Captain America  :P
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: Super Senseless Violent Man on September 11, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
Isnt the shield with the wrong colors?

I remember it being like this:
(http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/US_Agent.jpeg)
(just hope the image shows)

anyways, good luck with him!

Sorry for a double post but that's when he's the "Captain" he was steve's alternative
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: desgrav on September 11, 2007, 09:46:15 PM
Are you going to give him any custom moves.

If he would'nt then us agent would just be Captain America  :P
I know but I have had many chars that look different but play exactly the same. And I wanted to make sure that isn't what this will be.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: daniel_xz on September 12, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
Are you going to give him any custom moves.

If he would'nt then us agent would just be Captain America  :P
I know but I have had many chars that look different but play exactly the same. And I wanted to make sure that isn't what this will be.
im trying to make sure it wont ill put a lot of effort on the new attacks to make them completely different from original ones.

PD
thanks for the video it did help a lot.
Title: Re: My U.S Agent W.I.P
Post by: DJ W!ll on November 07, 2007, 11:04:25 AM
Well U.S. Agent appers in Marvel Ultimate Alliance and maybe find your voices! too i see what not got the star in your shield

Check it
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/Usagentmua.jpg) :P

William
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