Post by: BP on January 21, 2021, 11:33:41 AM
also wanted to say that Dev provided a GIANT chunk of sprites (at least 1/3 of the sprites is by him), masterfully done, also finally making me to collect myself and start doing something on this project. so even though he is away from mugen currently, he is also co-author with me
now collecting ideas for specials/hypers, thats pretty much the only thing left
Post by: metamutant on January 21, 2021, 11:42:59 AM
Post by: O Ilusionista on January 21, 2021, 01:41:16 PM
Post by: navs41 on January 21, 2021, 02:59:54 PM
I don't know much about Mr. Sinister, but perhaps you guys could use Tiger (Martial Masters) or Oro (SFIII) forearms or Makoto (SFIII) hands with Urien's punches to improve the punches. I think Mr. Sinister from a baby-Cable-verse in Cable & Deadpool had some shapeshifting/stretchy powers, so you could use Necro or Twelve for that too. You can check the attacks at https://www.justnopoint.com/zweifuss/
Master Huang punches are also a good call, but I think it has been used for Namor and may not fit Essex's fighting style.
As for the stance, there's a slight shift in the character's right arm (left side of screen) during the stance, while the forearm stands still and the muscle line gets zig-zaged (0:17). I would touch that up a bit too. His face could use that shark smile from time to time, maybe consider it for attacks during the impact frame or have him smile during the stance every now and then.
For kicks, I don't know a lot of bases that would match Urien easily, but Cable and Eagle (Kizuna Encounter/Savage Reign) are some of the few possibilities.
Keep up the good work.
Post by: BP on January 21, 2021, 03:21:02 PM
@navs41
thanks man!
about punches, i think we are pretty happy with the current ones, we dont really see the need to update them
kicks are also already done, all 9 variations
nice catch about the stance, it was animated long time ago and i havent looked at it with attention since
i wish someone like Acey, who is great with animating stances wouldve done that, since breathing in general looks like just a bunch of blocks moving if you look closely (which it is. cape is animated well there though, so it takes attention away). but i guess the arm is the most obvious "weirdness" with this one
Post by: Anderson Masters on January 21, 2021, 03:22:18 PM
Urien Base is a good choice, and i see alot of work on pixels, this is totally great,
watching. ^^(PM)^
Post by: shastab24 on January 21, 2021, 10:30:06 PM
Post by: BP on January 22, 2021, 03:22:07 AM
obvious basic moves like beam, uber beam, healing ability, teleport attack, telekenesis/telepathy already done, just not coded in yet
looking more for something creative/unusual
on mmv forum people gave a good hyper with clone summoning, which im pretty sure will make it into the character
something like that
ps. some creative moves with telekenesis/telepathy also welcomed
Post by: warecus on January 22, 2021, 05:09:39 AM
Post by: MatreroG on January 22, 2021, 10:24:52 AM
High quality sprites.
I think what Warecus says is very accurate. And maybe you can have a hyper level 3 with the Nasty Boys.
Post by: BP on January 22, 2021, 11:13:55 AM
One idea is that he he can point one finger in the air and perform an action like doom with the finger lasers except it comes from one hand
lol. just 2 frames from 2 specials. one from me, other from Dev
(https://i.ibb.co/bKPvhCp/6.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
i guess we all think alike about him
magneto doom bastion and such boss characters are who im mostly looking at now
interesting ideas about vegetation
probably no summon hyper for beta guys, would take alot of extra time to find bases, code it, etc.
im not really taking my time with him anymore, just want to make it to a decent beta
btw, guys what do you think about ermac's telekenetic slam from mk? always liked this move, but im just thinking maybe its too much for a marvel character
Post by: Uche_of_IMT on January 22, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
Post by: warecus on January 22, 2021, 09:39:40 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9L1Q4V5tzb4
@2:17
Not sure what to call it but nasty green stuff grows out of the ground with teeth... a lot evil plants can be found at sprite data bases
Also in the episode there are mind control bugs (that look like bugs) maybe could toss them out similar to scruffy dragons lex luthors nanotechnology hyper to literally bug pl2.
Also emac slam is a good idea: you can look at the Jean grey over at migrant guild for code and inspiration.
Summons: I don’t mean chars, I mean whatever you want to throw in there... machine that shoots a laser like beast, some sprites of a monster you found on sprinters resource some weird plant. Remember he is like doctor Frankenstein. He creates crap to do his fighting really. And since you have the basics locked down that will satisfy the combo heads (maybe), but specials and hypers you literally have a kitchen sink to work with because his powers were always hard to define. I see him as not apocalypse if that makes sense.
Post by: warecus on January 22, 2021, 09:40:48 PM
Lastly this might be advance but some chars have it at least code wise:
Dazzler
Lilith
Faust from guilty gear: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr5gt4FlP4U&t=11s
Essentially is a hyper locking a char in a specific state:
Dazzler has the dancing hyper
Lilith has the dancing stage
Faust has the operating scene
For your sinister: place pl2 on a bed which would just take one of their get hits lying down
You insert a operating table under them
Use akumas fade to black raging demon to save on sprites and animation
A bunch hit sparks and finished.
Implication: sinister just operated on pl2 (maybe to enhance, but it goes wrong)
Bam level three hyper
Post by: Magma MK-II on January 22, 2021, 10:56:52 PM
And since you have the basics locked down that will satisfy the combo heads (maybe), but specials and hypers you literally have a kitchen sink to work with because his powers were always hard to define.
Not really, he basically has a pileup of powers which he gave himself over the centuries through genome manipulation, including but not limited to: immortality, super healing, teleportation, telepathy, telekinesis, energy projection, super strength, extreme durability and shapeshifting.
Post by: BP on January 23, 2021, 02:45:28 AM
Not really, he basically has a pileup of powers which he gave himself over the centuries through genome manipulation, including but not limited to: immortality, super healing, teleportation, telepathy, telekinesis, energy projection, super strength, extreme durability and shapeshifting.
this. yesterday was my day off and 2 specials and 3 hypers are already in place and working (1 special even with 2 variations)
granted they had some sprites done already and also they are not completely finished yet (want to add some cape movement sprites), but still, his specials and hypers are nothing in terms of time required, compared to punches, kicks and basics. he just casting stuff with minimum body movement. also much more fun to do. power projection straight and aoe and healing covered. teleportation, telepathy and telekinesis next. i only see teleportation attack having a big amount of sprites, but probably also not
in terms of intros/winposes everything is worse for now, he only has 1 of each now (and intro is still kinda half-a**ed), so im not really sure unique ones will be inthere for the beta
(but i do agree, cyclops for him is like a sabretooth for wolverine, pretty much a counterpart)
Post by: Chimoru on February 02, 2021, 07:14:20 PM
As far as powers go, can't he also make force fields and steal (mimic) people's powers sometimes? Maybe I'm wrong.