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IMT Main => M.U.G.E.N WIP => Topic started by: gyokland on December 23, 2008, 10:09:58 AM
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Hi, I´ve been playing mugen for many years I have over 400 elite characters I don´t download everything I see I test them before adding them specially the quality of the sprites, and I have been waiting for a good Doomsday since the creation of Superman (from Kal´El I think) but nothing, so sometimes you have to do things by yourself. I have never made a Mugen character before but I have some drawing skills so I can do the sprites part but I will sure have problems with the code so if anyone have any tutorial that would like to share, I would be very thankful, also if ou have a tutorial about "pixel art" cause I am not used to draw at this scale.
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the Image is scaled.
C&C are welcome
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That is very very nice. Saving as .jpeg ruins the quality also. Save as .png next time.
Also is that from scratch? He's still way to big though. You may want to compare his size to other mvc characters and then draw him from there. Scaling him down would probably ruin the quality.
You could also try using different capcom characters as bases and see what you can come up with.
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Is that an edit of the sprites from the Death of Superman game?
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Thanks for the comments,
Lasher: the image is scaled I exported a hulk sprite and then based on his size I made him, I think hulk was like 150x140 px this guy is actually 160x160px
ALEXZIQ: No, it´s completly original, although I do checked before that game to see how he looked like and if I could use anything from it but that Doomsday barely moved.
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In that case...this is absolutely awesome lol
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So beautiful, brings tears to my eyes...
Great work ^:)^
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Very impressive :thumbsup:
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very nice :thumbsup: i like it
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Thanks,I hope to have him ready for next christmas
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The shading & everything looks excellent . I am hating on his head though . His face looks too " cartoony " He actually looks " cute " instead of menacing .
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Darktalbain, thanks for the crit but I really don´t find him cute,are ou sure you understood his face ? there´s a lot going on there specially in the eye, cause it has two bones on each side.
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I definately understand what's going on with his face . I was working on Doomsday some time ago . Due to a hard drive failure , I lost a lot of work so I scrapped him . So I get the bones through the eyes , teeth bones & facial spikes .
Your Doomsday is way better than mine . But the face makes him look like a big gray teddy bear to me . He's just so d*mn cute , we could market Doomsday stuffed toys that look like this ;*))
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lol it looks straight to me
maybe the mouth could make him look more meaner, but i dont know
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I recommended you use the Scruffy Dragon Template at the DCvsMarvel Mugen site. it will make it alot easier than coding him from scratch. Not to mention he is DC. Awesome sprite BTW. :thumbsup:
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When I draw People always go like "dude that´s to sick" , but cute? this is the first time
I will see what I can do to fix this cute problem, maybe when the stand animation is completed he will look better,
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One problem I see is how you have him blended into the background with darker pinks blending into the black. Put the sprite on screen and youll see what I mean. He will show up with a partial pink outline all around him, where the pink darkens. Only the immediate pink color will appear invisible, and the darker shade will stay visable on screen.
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When I draw People always go like "dude that´s to sick" , but cute? this is the first time
I will see what I can do to fix this cute problem, maybe when the stand animation is completed he will look better,
Now that I'm really looking at it , I think it's the eye . The way it's sprited it almost gives an anime look to it . Which is where the " cute " factor comes in .
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Deidara: thanks for the tip I´ll check it out later
ALEXZIQ : don´t worry
Cause I didn´t knew how to start I made him on Rgb and then I transformed it to index color in Photoshop, there are two layers the background and the character, what I do is that I put the background transparent then I make it Indexcolor and replace the background color with another one in his case pink , and there is no more pink border this is actually the RGB version that´s why you see the border
DARKTALBAIN
Anime??? well, now I am really confuse, his eye is only the two yellow pixels the thing bellow are some very deep dark rings
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well... maybe you could have him snarling
the eyes look alrite though
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Deidara: thanks for the tip I´ll check it out later
ALEXZIQ : don´t worry
Cause I didn´t knew how to start I made him on Rgb and then I transformed it to index color in Photoshop, there are two layers the background and the character, what I do is that I put the background transparent then I make it Indexcolor and replace the background color with another one in his case pink , and there is no more pink border this is actually the RGB version that´s why you see the border
DARKTALBAIN
Anime??? well, now I am really confuse, his eye is only the two yellow pixels the thing bellow are some very deep dark rings
Those dark rings aren't dark enough , makes it look like all eye . Maybe it's just my laptop . This monitor shows everything Nevermind, it's probably just me.
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If I don´t start putting goals I will never finish this so my next update will be for next monday and it will be the stand and crounching completed, and the first walking sprites.
Merry Cristmas to everyone,
BTW is it possible to make an animation while crounching?I am at work, and don´t have my mugen around or any fighting game and I really don´t remember if any character do that I don´t want him just to crounch and stay still.
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WHY don t you use the coding from the existing doomsday, it was good and it was done by alexziq;
ps: i love the sprite :thumbsup:
@ DT/ DOOMSADY cute? :D
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daniel_p. : thanks I´ll consider that
JASONTODD: Thanks I´ll keep that in mind for the future, this is just the first sprite, I have a long way to go before code, I want to focus first in what I know, illustration.
and this is for the ones that are thinking that it would be hard to make him palettes because It is made from an RGB image, I am really talking about me cause when I first saw color tablet I thought I will never make him another palette, but it was very easy and this is the index color image
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man that sprite looks good... I like the shading
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daniel_p. : thanks I´ll consider that
JASONTODD: Thanks I´ll keep that in mind for the future, this is just the first sprite, I have a long way to go before code, I want to focus first in what I know, illustration.
and this is for the ones that are thinking that it would be hard to make him palettes because It is made from an RGB image, I am really talking about me cause when I first saw color tablet I thought I will never make him another palette, but it was very easy and this is the index color image
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3b63ae4ab7.png)
That's how I started . I was just an arrtist that wanted to see my stuff move on screen . Good Luck to you %%-
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thanks DARKTALBAIN, by the way do you made those spawns from your banner? cause they look really cool and if you do could you tell me where I can download them?
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BTW is it possible to make an animation while crounching?I am at work, and don´t have my mugen around or any fighting game and I really don´t remember if any character do that I don´t want him just to crounch and stay still.
yes it is, check ghost rider's crouching animation
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Dude! That's sick! Can't wait for more progress updates!
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wow, that doomsday sprite is incredible
good %%- on him
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thanks DARKTALBAIN, by the way do you made those spawns from your banner? cause they look really cool and if you do could you tell me where I can download them?
Thanx
I am making both of them .
Medieval Spawn is all my creation
Here's his WIP thread .
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=11185.0 (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=11185.0)
The regular Spawn was made by ER . he's a creator that has been around since almost the beginning of mugen . He was making Spawn , got caught up in life & other things , so he never finished him . Recently after seeing my Medieval Spawn , ER passed his Spawn onto me & gave me permission to finish him
Things were slow for the Spawn's , as Wolvenom took precedence . Wolvenom is pretty much complete , so back to Spawn's . I was actually just working on Medieval sprites a few minutes ago . The regular Spawn sprites will probably be edted with bigger spikes more like I did for my avatar .
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I wonder what style he would be classified as? He looks almost like the much clearer Sega sprites for Justice League Task Force, but even more clean than those. A lot of people will try to get you to do this WIP more MvC, but I say stick to your guns and bring your own vision to life :thumbsup:
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I wonder what style he would be classified as? He looks almost like the much clearer Sega sprites for Justice League Task Force, but even more clean than those. A lot of people will try to get you to do this WIP more MvC, but I say stick to your guns and bring your own vision to life :thumbsup:
I agree , don't let people persuade you to make him MVC style . Follow your vision . I did with my first character Hobgoblin . I still hear comments that he's not MVC style . But for the most part everyone liked him & I made he look like he jumped out of a Mcfarlane comic , which was my gol to begin with .
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He looks amazing but that may be a bit too much detail to redraw 1500 times? x_X
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That´s exactly what I wanted from the beginning, to make a unique character but I have to say that MVC is my favourite style so when I was making him MVC was in my mind thanks. <_<|...|?? does anyone known if DoomsDay has claws ? cause I just noticed that I haven´t even draw him nails I thin I´ll have to <_<|google| that up.
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Artistic interpetation . But from when I researched when I was creating him , most of the artists just drew him with normal fingernails . He has those bone spikes on his knuckles that do the damage .
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He looks amazing but that may be a bit too much detail to redraw 1500 times? x_X
Yes is going to be really tough, but he is not that much detailed as you may think, and I know a few tricks that will help me out. besides I know this will take me over a year to finish there is no hurry.
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Well, good luck. It looks like you definitely have a gift when it comes to sprites. :)
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He looks absolutely fantastic. Really loving the design on him. I wouldn't change a thing and I really don't see many others doing do either. Hoping to see a lot more progress on him. Trully great stuff. :thumbsup:
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pretty sure its less than 1500 cause A LOT of the sprites are
hitsparks
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amazing man
he looks so good
you have my blessing and %%- with this project
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I wonder what style he would be classified as? He looks almost like the much clearer Sega sprites for Justice League Task Force, but even more clean than those. A lot of people will try to get you to do this WIP more MvC, but I say stick to your guns and bring your own vision to life :thumbsup:
Yeah, I couldn't agree with Alex more on this. I can almost hear the whining that is sure to come about how he doesn't look like a Capcom sprite.... When they start, just ignore. IMO, the look you've got for ol' Doomsday here blows away most MvC-style spriting and fits this character perfectly. I'm dying to see how this one will shape up.
As for coding, I say don't worry about it for now. Once you show enough sprite progress on this guy, I'm sure you'll have plenty of offers from people willing to help you on that end. If you'd prefer to learn to code him yourself, I'd do like someone else in this thread already suggested, and get yourself a good template - it will cut out a lot of the basic coding for you. After that, just go into the "docs" folder in your MUGEN, and start reading. There's a lot there, but if I'm actually starting to make sense of it then it must not be that hard!
Good luck to you!
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nice sprites and really nice spikes! i need a really good tutorial to do some spike like this :D or an existing character (to do a legal frankenspriting)
keep it up!!!
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you are a simply fantastic artist. good luck on your project.
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when can be suspected to be finished ;D
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when can be suspected to be finished ;D
he say he was aiming for next christmas
so again %%- with your proyect
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thanks for all the nice comments that I haven´t been able to answer, really thanks.
O k here are some updates but there is a problem I made the gif animation with the RGB images and I didn´t had enough time to make it 256 colors (by the way they work fine in 256 colors I have tested them randomly with the same palette)and some of the quality was lost, and the border looks kind of rough, it is 150% scaled so you can see some details but I will be posting single sprites later even bigger.
I still haven´t done the animation when he is already crounched
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OK here is something else. This is one of the things I want him to do when the fight start, to squeeze a little bird like in the comic book,or to choke a deer Ohh If anyone have the link to the complete death of superman please give it to me I think I am missing some details here ,I had the original when I was a kid, then my brother sold it, a feww year ago I found the PDF but I dont have it anymore
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C&C please
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Very nice dude. The problem is that Mugen doesnt accept RGB images so it will have to be 256 colors.
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thanks,I know, only pcx but I work in RGB first then I thransform them with the same palette.I didn´t had time last night to transform them because it was 3:00 Am and I was tired.
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thanks,I know, only pcx but I work in RGB first then I thransform them with the same palette.I didn´t had time last night to transform them because it was 3:00 Am and I was tired.
They look great though. Im loving the style your Doomsday is in.
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thanks the sprites still need some clean up.
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Both versions of Doomsday look great.
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WOWOWOW I LOVE IT :w00t:
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Good work man, good work at all!
Yeah, Mugen runs with 256 color paletted images. To avoid loss of detailes, you should draw the sprites TWO TIMES BIGGER than the final size then, on Mugen, we scale down to 100% back. This gives much more detail than to make on 100% scale right from the start.
The work is very nice. I think its a bit darker, but its my taste.
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I am glad you like i JASONTODD by looking your avatar I am guessing you are a great Doomsday Fan.
Ilusionista : Thanks for the advise but the lost of quality was because I made the gif with the RGB sprites not with the 256 color mode, for the scale he is not huge but he is kind of bigger than the average so it can be scaled down a little bit.
Please if anyone has some references images or anything about Doomsday with and without his suit please let me Know, specially from his 1993 first appearance witch I think is the best one.
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YOU COULD DO AN HYPER MOVE WHERE HE CHANGE his spikes in kryptonite, like in the recent issues. :-SS
if you like doosday go there:
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=19560.0 (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=19560.0)
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Really?? how the hell is Superman goig to beat him this time? Well, thats the kinds of details I need to know about this guy, thanks.
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if you ahve a dmonoid account, you can download the comic from there.
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Don't scale him down, keep the size. He should look huge.
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NOT A BAD IDEA :P
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:o
There is a vein popping out of his arm in the stance . Little details like that make things cool .
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Those sprites are awesome man :thumbsup:
Please dont let this Wip die ???
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I am glad someone noticed about the vein, I thought it would be a nice touch, thanks DARKTALBAIN.
Ok this is his original size so please tell me if he should be scaled or not.
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:o
There is a vein popping out of his arm in the stance . Little details like that make things cool .
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yea
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Those sprites are awesome man :thumbsup:
Please dont let this Wip die ???
relax man,I wont quit unless somehow I loose my hand or get blind, but I have an anouncement to make, things might get a little slow till May cause I have to make a proyect to graduate from college I just found this out we call it here the ¨Tesis¨I have to make a Multimedia CD of 2d tutorials but don´t worrry I will continue posting updates constantly, only not that often but after May I will dedicate my entire free time to DOOMSDAY!!
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I think he should be in this scale compared to Superman
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I am glad you like i JASONTODD by looking your avatar I am guessing you are a great Doomsday Fan.
Ilusionista : Thanks for the advise but the lost of quality was because I made the gif with the RGB sprites not with the 256 color mode, for the scale he is not huge but he is kind of bigger than the average so it can be scaled down a little bit.
Please if anyone has some references images or anything about Doomsday with and without his suit please let me Know, specially from his 1993 first appearance witch I think is the best one.
I got it, but what I'm taling about is to make this char a High Resolution char. This is done, like I said before, drawing the char 2x bigger than it will be, then, on Mugen, we scale it down to 1x.
If I do remember well, his final size (scale 50% from the size of your actual draw) is something like Hugo from SF3 for sure.
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Thanks DARKTALBAIN I DIDN´t had superman at hand so I used Hugo,
I am making the walking animation andhe dosen´t has a perfectly sided stance specially his legs so I wanted him to turn around before walking just 1 or 2 sprites to put him on a good walking position, the question is :
is it possible to start the walking animation loop after he turns?
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I got it, but what I'm taling about is to make this char a High Resolution char. This is done, like I said before, drawing the char 2x bigger than it will be, then, on Mugen, we scale it down to 1x.
If I do remember well, his final size (scale 50% from the size of your actual draw) is something like Hugo from SF3 for sure.
I wanted to make him High res at first but he wouldn´t look good with the MVC characters or with Superman, specially with him besides not everyone play with High res Mugen or knows how to change the resolutiion, and in the low res version the High res scaled down characters look too jagged
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hum, ok (besides almost everyone uses high res mugen today)
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Thanks DARKTALBAIN I DIDN´t had superman at hand so I used Hugo,
I am making the walking animation andhe dosen´t has a perfectly sided stance specially his legs so I wanted him to turn around before walking just 1 or 2 sprites to put him on a good walking position, the question is :
is it possible to start the walking animation loop after he turns?
Yes , he can turn before he walks . Those sprites will not be in the walking loop . They will have to be in a seperate animation & coded to go with the walk sprites .
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im probably way behind in this convo but is he going to be regular or hi res ?.......either way the sprites are outstanding great work :o :thumbsup:
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;*)) if i didn't missed something he is going to be normal not hi res...
the animation of his stance is soo cool i love the vein poping out that looks awesome ;D
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:o wow, ok nice work wow
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quick question.....are you going to leabve his colors like that, or are you going to make the more traditional grey colored doomsday?
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quick question.....are you going to leabve his colors like that, or are you going to make the more traditional grey colored doomsday?
well his original color is not exactly gray, but after watching him on that stage with superman I think he is too brown,, so, I will changeit maybe.
Ohh, by the way sorry for not posting anything recently but last week I went on vacations for the new year hollydays
I´ll be posting something next monday.
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I am glad someone noticed about the vein, I thought it would be a nice touch, thanks DARKTALBAIN.
Ok this is his original size so please tell me if he should be scaled or not.
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hmm your artwork does look very good but if you are going for a mvc look I think the shorts are way to detailed I mean it looks really good but if your going for mvc style capcom doesnt detail that much if you have it in a png file i can edit it and show you what I mean.
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hmm your artwork does look very good but if you are going for a mvc look I think the shorts are way to detailed I mean it looks really good but if your going for mvc style capcom doesnt detail that much if you have it in a png file i can edit it and show you what I mean.
Thanks for the crit but I am not really making him MVC
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Thanks for the crit but I am not really making him MVC
Can't say we didn't warn you ;*)) Don't worry about it , I caught the same thing about Hobgoblin .
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Can't say we didn't warn you ;*)) Don't worry about it , I caught the same thing about Hobgoblin .
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OH, But the hobgoblin was great for me ^:)^
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OH, But the hobgoblin was great for me ^:)^
Thanx , but I still get PM's from people to this day that I should resprite him exactly MVC look . I made him to look like a McFarlane drawing & that's what I accomplished In my opinion . Which reminds me I have an update to release of him one day if I can find it :-??
Anyways back on topic . This Doomsday looks great !
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hmm wasnt really trying to criticize just trying to help because you originally said you where going for the capcom look but i mean whatever you choose it looks awesome the only reason i asked was because majority of dc and marvel sprites are capcom style and personally i feel darktailbans hobgoblin is capcom style I just wish he was a little different compared to aceys green goblin
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hmm wasnt really trying to criticize just trying to help because you originally said you where going for the capcom look but i mean whatever you choose it looks awesome the only reason i asked was because majority of dc and marvel sprites are capcom style and personally i feel darktailbans hobgoblin is capcom style I just wish he was a little different compared to aceys green goblin
You're kidding me , right ? Did you download the updated version of Hobgoblin from July 4th ? He doesn't even play like Green Goblin anymore .
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please,your hobgoblin design sucks and you don t draw like jim lee stop the ego talbain
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:O*D
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:O*D
hahaha... :D
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hahaha... :D
Yep
I will say that Hobs did have a problem where his eye color was attached to the shading, so it detracted from the sprites. I went through and recolored every eye in Fighter factory with the pencil on a differant color tile so the shading could have its own color. The sprites are much sharper with a brownish shade, instead of Red. After a New stance is made when DT has time, Im sure it will be re-released to the public. I think there is one bug I have to fix though with a Demogoblin thing.
anyway this is a tad >:-(-|
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-_-; *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
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please,your hobgoblin design sucks and you don t draw like jim lee stop the ego talbain
You're an idiot...who said anything about Jim Lee :DxDie
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-_-; *Iceman ThumbsDown!*
Whats the thumb down for?
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please,your hobgoblin design sucks and you don t draw like jim lee stop the ego talbain
1) This is probably one the most ignorant statements , I may have ever seen anyone make in my entire life . why ?
Because .....
2) Jim Lee has never drawn Hobgoblin .
3) Apparently you can't read either , because I mentioned who did .
Now onto statement that is even less intelligent than the Jim Lee part
5) You don't like him ? Why don't you create a Hobgoblin & sacrafice months of your life spriting to show me how it's done . :thumbsup:
6 ) This is not the thread to come barging in , just to start things , with " Talbain your character sucks " . You could at least have enough common sense to voice your opinion , that lacks any substance what so ever anyway , in one of my threads .
So do not continue this here !
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Sooooooo
Anyway, Doomsday is looking great, Much better than most of the current WIPs Ive seen around. Luv the style
No offense meant to DT's old WIP from a couple years back
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:thumbsup: XD|| :thumbsup:
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Sooooooo
Anyway, Doomsday is looking great, Much better than most of the current WIPs Ive seen around. Luv the style
No offense meant to DT's old WIP from a couple years back
I already mentioned to gyokland , when I first seen this WIP . That the start of his looks better than mine ever did & probably ever would have . :thumbsup:
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That's one beautiful Doomsday @-) =P~
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you should really start your own superman based characters sprites using the same style. make your own Superman Mugen game. or even DC mugen game. Awesome work!!
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yeah that s so easy to create characters o.O#
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The Superman already out will go just fine with this Doomday
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*Iceman ThumbsDown!* <----that was for spiderclone. Opinions should be kept outta the wrong threads.
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any updates on doomsday?
ps. gyokland did you get the PM with the death of superman comics?
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please,your hobgoblin design sucks and you don t draw like jim lee stop the ego talbain
Wow, I didn't know we were talking about Jim Lee. Someone got a case of "Internet Hate Machine" and needs to take 20cc of "Essteeffyuu" and sleep it off.
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I suddenly want to play as DT's Hobgoblin and see what it's like. :-$
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I like where this Doomsday is going, please, continue.
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I suddenly want to play as DT's Hobgoblin and see what it's like. :-$
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I like where this Doomsday is going, please, continue.
>:-(-| He's online still .
Back on topic .
Whatever happened to the guy making this Doomsday ?
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>:-(-| He's online still .
Back on topic .
Whatever happened to the guy making this Doomsday ?
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He got busy with real life.
He said the progress will slow down until may.
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ill be waiting for the updates
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This character looks totally awesome. Way to go!