Post by: Acey on May 05, 2009, 03:37:45 PM
A few spriters had started to make Haggar but never finished. I decided it was about time that someone did and in the process used sprites from some of my predecessors. My biggest delay was making all the sprites match the same style and when you're taking sprites and shrinking them down, you have ALOT of clean up to do; in the end I ended up replacing most of the older work anyways.
Considering that Zangief was made based on Haggar and replaced Haggar early on in SFII there are a lot of similarities between the two. Capcom wrote it into Zangief's history claiming that the two are rivals who often steal moves from each other. With this in mind I would like to point out that Haggar is not a Zangief clone, and I hope you all fell that way too.
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/Haggar2.png)
Haggar Stage by x-boy
x-boy has been one of the greatest people to work with in Mugen, I just wish both our natural languages were the same, but never the less he has been kind enough to let us use this stage he created in the SMvC project for Haggar. My favorite part is walking to the right and watching the statue of liberty as it changes from night time to morning.
(http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/images/HaggarStage.png)
Download:
Mayor Mike Haggar (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Uploads/ACEY/Haggar_MvC.ace)
Metro Stage (http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Uploads/ACEY/MetroStage.ace)
Post by: That Mugen Guy on May 05, 2009, 03:39:07 PM
Post by: Alexziq on May 05, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
Ive so wanted a good Haggar!!!!
Post by: Playing Enemy on May 05, 2009, 03:42:36 PM
Post by: celobateira on May 05, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Thank u so much for the release
Post by: The Anvil on May 05, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
nice one AC, i love this character!
Post by: alex87 on May 05, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
Post by: Worksa8 on May 05, 2009, 04:04:20 PM
..With a lead pipe! =D
Post by: DoktorAvidan on May 05, 2009, 04:07:44 PM
Post by: Alexziq on May 05, 2009, 04:12:18 PM
+1
lol
Post by: Lifewater on May 05, 2009, 04:18:17 PM
Post by: Snakebyte on May 05, 2009, 04:20:09 PM
The standing HP animation could be a lot smoother, and both Haggar and the opponent are sort of pulled back after the Flying Lariat hyper.
Also, he totally is a Zangief clone... He's just supposed to be, so it's okay. Making a Ken without a Shoryuken and Hadouken so that he wouldn't be a 'Ryu clone' would be equally as stupid. They're similar characters, no worries. :thumbsup:
Post by: KudosForce on May 05, 2009, 04:23:04 PM
Also, he totally is a Zangief clone... He's just supposed to be, so it's okay. Making a Ken without a Shoryuken and Hadouken so that he wouldn't be a 'Ryu clone' would be equally as stupid. They're similar characters, no worries. :thumbsup:
Agreed. ^^(PM)^ Haggar has a justifiable story-related reason to be a clone, so it's okay! :thumbsup: Fighting games all come with their own clones.
If it matters, the only thing that differentiates him from Zangief is his pipe. :P That, and his appearance (obviously ;)).
Also, Haggar's voice is PERFECT! =D>:w00t:
Post by: Ref Cortez on May 05, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
it's on now.
Post by: ANGELM on May 05, 2009, 04:59:28 PM
YES! PILEDRIVERS FOR ALL! ;D>:-(-| Haggar is not responsible for any injuries.
Post by: KudosForce on May 05, 2009, 05:14:56 PM
=D> only thing I have to say.
>:-(-| Haggar is not responsible for any injuries.
>:-(-| Vote Haggar for mayor! That is all.
Post by: bushinryujunkie on May 05, 2009, 05:28:26 PM
Post by: Near on May 05, 2009, 05:32:20 PM
Thank's Acey, i now beginning understand how much work is behind this little char ;)
keep going! :rulez:
Post by: Spidercide on May 05, 2009, 05:33:45 PM
Post by: Acey on May 05, 2009, 05:40:04 PM
Post by: DARKTALBAIN on May 05, 2009, 05:54:41 PM
Now I can fight Superman the way it was meant to be done!...
..With a lead pipe! =D
:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
=D> only thing I have to say.
>:-(-| Haggar is not responsible for any injuries.
:DxDie :DxDie :DxDie
You guys are making me laugh today :thumbsup:
Great release Acey , I was looking forward to this one . Download when I get home from work :thumbsup:
Post by: dsw on May 05, 2009, 06:15:35 PM
Post by: SolidZone 26 on May 05, 2009, 06:16:42 PM
Post by: Acey on May 05, 2009, 06:24:55 PM
finally the holy trinity is reunited again! (Cody-Guy-Haggar):D
Thank's Acey, i now beginning understand how much work is behind this little char ;)
keep going! :rulez:
And eventually Kojunho and team will bring us a white shirt Cody too.
Post by: KudosForce on May 05, 2009, 06:46:48 PM
And eventually Kojunho and team will bring us a white shirt Cody too.
Ho ho, I'll be looking forward to that one! ;*))
Post by: JeagerEX on May 05, 2009, 06:50:21 PM
Post by: Lord_Waffles on May 05, 2009, 06:56:20 PM
Post by: GrayFox on May 05, 2009, 07:29:49 PM
Post by: Z4kaR1 on May 05, 2009, 07:38:06 PM
Looks like a winner! :oHI-RES Character? :-??
Post by: Izanagi on May 05, 2009, 07:40:53 PM
- :w00t: -
Post by: Tazzer on May 05, 2009, 07:45:35 PM
Post by: CxSxTxM on May 05, 2009, 08:12:55 PM
Nice release Acey, congratlations ^:)^
Post by: KudosForce on May 05, 2009, 08:28:37 PM
Excellent work here! The Final Fight elements were implemented very well and look great. Love the pipe move. Also the fact that Haggar can walk around with his opponent after he's grabbed them brings back fun memories of playing Final Fight back in the day. Thanks alot for this release. Any plans to have him have special intros for Cody and Guy?
Actually, an intro with Belger could work just as well...;*))
Post by: PARANATION on May 05, 2009, 08:29:58 PM
Post by: J.C.McMinis on May 05, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll128/jcmcminis/ErrorMessage.png)
Post by: warecus on May 05, 2009, 08:47:09 PM
Post by: J.C.McMinis on May 05, 2009, 08:59:35 PM
name = "haggarextrastage"
Post by: Tenspeed on May 05, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
>:-(-| Vote Haggar for mayor! That is all.
I disagree:
http://jasonrivera.com/viewarticle.php?art_id=29 (http://jasonrivera.com/viewarticle.php?art_id=29)
Post by: sensei_yoda on May 05, 2009, 09:22:33 PM
good job bro!!! :w00t:
Post by: ∀CH on May 05, 2009, 09:40:27 PM
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on May 05, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
>:-(-| but guys if you think haggar was awesome which he is an thanks acey by the way..... :w00t: :w00t:
Then your gonna luv what i have in store for you guys.... Ohh just wait....
another one of Haggar's rivals i am converting to mvc style with new moves an everything....
Post by: darkmoon766 on May 05, 2009, 09:53:55 PM
My 1st thought is rip from Zangief, but NO, it was ripped from HULK !! :( Althought is a good char, but then again, it's Hulk using Zangief's move ???
Yep, pretty impressive isn't it? Looks like Haggar to me. Great job Acey. Thanks for all of your work. ::salute::
Post by: VargVikernes on May 05, 2009, 10:32:12 PM
Is time to fight (against the gays of cody and guy :P)
;D
Post by: .Batzarro. on May 05, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 05, 2009, 11:22:04 PM
Post by: VargVikernes on May 05, 2009, 11:32:52 PM
Now i have the main 3 character from final fight in MvC now!
Do you have a MvC style Cody? :-??
Post by: DizzyTheConquer on May 05, 2009, 11:49:36 PM
Do you have a MvC style Cody? :-??yep!
Post by: Kojunho on May 05, 2009, 11:57:39 PM
Reveal thyself!
Post by: Jedah12 on May 06, 2009, 12:17:33 AM
Nostalgic the pipe thing =D>
Post by: PARANATION on May 06, 2009, 02:49:50 AM
Post by: Z4kaR1 on May 06, 2009, 02:57:55 AM
If anybody has MvC Cody send me a PM.This is not the request thread :-w
Post by: Zeook on May 06, 2009, 09:30:59 AM
have you think put jessica togeter to hagar in the intro?
Post by: KudosForce on May 06, 2009, 10:07:10 AM
^^(PM)^Thanks great
have you think put jessica togeter to hagar in the intro?
If you ask me, this would work better as a winpose (with both of them adopting the pose they do on the photo at the start of Final Fight, of course ;)).
I been waiting for him for like forever,
>:-(-| but guys if you think haggar was awesome which he is an thanks acey by the way..... :w00t: :w00t:
Then your gonna luv what i have in store for you guys.... Ohh just wait....
another one of Haggar's rivals i am converting to mvc style with new moves an everything....
Sounds like it could be Sodom or...Thrasher!? :o ;D
Post by: Acey on May 06, 2009, 10:36:18 AM
^^(PM)^Thanks great
have you think put jessica togeter to hagar in the intro?
She's going to be in one of the endings.
Post by: Magma MK-II on May 06, 2009, 11:46:59 AM
D'Arby the gambler approves this char!
I just wished all mayors were like him! ;D
Post by: Acey on May 06, 2009, 12:01:12 PM
Post by: Gaijin on May 06, 2009, 12:52:10 PM
Post by: PARANATION on May 06, 2009, 01:58:12 PM
Post by: KudosForce on May 06, 2009, 01:59:19 PM
Haggar's stage doesnt work. Shows an error message.
Good to see I'm not the only one who saw that. #:-S I thought that I screwed up somewhere.
Post by: Acey on May 06, 2009, 02:19:33 PM
Post by: fer619 on May 06, 2009, 03:01:38 PM
Post by: Error Macro on May 06, 2009, 04:21:47 PM
Looks like part of the bridge on the stage is missing. Other than that, awesome stage and char. :)
Post by: JonnyTanna on May 06, 2009, 09:02:25 PM
Thank you Acey!
A character that has been long overdue. I don't get why people put so much time into making all these ryu/ken/akuma clones, when they should have been working on more of the other Capcom Characters.
Now let's see someone make Travis Touchdown (I know he's not capcom), Mask De Smith (Killer7), Batsu (Rival Schools) and a decent Axel (Streets Of Rage).
Post by: Kairi3000 on May 06, 2009, 09:07:40 PM
Post by: Bonobi on May 06, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
Some kick hit sparks seem to be misaligned (light kick, medium kick and his jump in hard kick), and his piledriver, along with his suplex, seems to only be able to go one way. Lots of fun still, though. =]
Post by: Grayskull on May 07, 2009, 05:22:09 AM
It worth to wait :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: !
Post by: Acey on May 07, 2009, 01:11:49 PM
Thanks for the fun character. The sprites also look fantastic, and I like the moves you've given him as well.
Some kick hit sparks seem to be misaligned (light kick, medium kick and his jump in hard kick), and his piledriver, along with his suplex, seems to only be able to go one way. Lots of fun still, though. =]
Well, if we got everything right on the first try we wouldn't have material for a Release Party next year. This is just job security. :-??
Post by: KudosForce on May 07, 2009, 01:37:37 PM
Well, if we got everything right on the first try we wouldn't have material for a Release Party next year. This is just job security. :-??
Makes sense. That way, we crave for more. =P~
Post by: lideroptimus on May 07, 2009, 03:51:03 PM
Report: when Hagar going to trow and walk the oponente on cpu vs cpu, there are a bug, and don't hapen nothing.
Lovery char, thank you. ;)
Post by: alex87 on May 07, 2009, 03:52:22 PM
Post by: lideroptimus on May 07, 2009, 03:55:55 PM
Like this:
[Info]
name = "way outx haggarextrastage"
Post by: Acey on May 07, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
my mugen have a problem with the stage O_o....
Download the latest version. ;)
Post by: lideroptimus on May 07, 2009, 04:41:43 PM
Download the latest version. ;)
Yep... It's mutch more easy :P
Post by: Bonobi on May 07, 2009, 08:51:27 PM
Well, if we got everything right on the first try we wouldn't have material for a Release Party next year. This is just job security. :-??
Yeah, I know you're working a lot on different characters. This is really a great job so far. I guess it might be kind of silly to report anything, since you already have the bug report thread with a lot of all ready helpful feedback. =]
Post by: Acey on May 07, 2009, 09:24:12 PM
Post by: alex87 on May 08, 2009, 03:04:57 AM
Download the latest version. ;)thanks :)
Post by: Kairi3000 on May 08, 2009, 10:14:40 AM
Pros: his sprites are great though his holding the pipe COULD do some more work
he has somewhat aggressive AI
ITS A FINISHED HAGGAR!
Cons:
well when fighting him if he blocks and uses the guard push he'll go RIGHT into the grab animation until you hit him
ONLY 2 supers T_T I miss his maximum bomber from Nam X Cap (Lol that's my personal issue so meh)
his grab opponent is practically useless besides gaining a free hit (my suggestion make the grab into a special where a certain button does something diff. ex grab + HP = Headbutt ^_^)
all in all seeing how theres not that many problems found in this FINISHED HAGGAR!
I'll give it a B+ Keep up the good work hope to see some improvements in the next update
Post by: Acey on May 08, 2009, 10:27:01 AM
his grab opponent is practically useless besides gaining a free hit (my suggestion make the grab into a special where a certain button does something diff. ex grab + HP = Headbutt ^_^)
try chaining the throws. HP, MP or HP,Kick
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on May 08, 2009, 10:34:18 AM
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ermacwon/Winmugen2009-05-0602-47-23-56.png)
Looks like part of the bridge on the stage is missing. Other than that, awesome stage and char. :)
I think the stage boundary is set higher than the amount of stage that exists and needs to be lowered.
That's my fault as I gave the stage boundaries and velocities a once-over for the last beta update and overextended this stage.
Post by: Acey on May 08, 2009, 11:21:48 AM
Post by: MaxBeta on May 08, 2009, 01:26:56 PM
Acey, I was a bit bored this morning and started tweaking that incomplete stage...BTW, who's the author...X-Boy? From the .def I can tell he's french, but I don't recognize him from any of the mugen forums....and more importantly...Did he drop this stage...or is he still working on perfecting it? I just don't want my work to be put to waste, that's all.
I'll let you know when I'm done, but it'll probably be by the end of this weekend.
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g267/Apoklepz/SPRITE%20SHEETS/bridge_edit.png)
Also....
[Camera]
boundhigh = -168
...fixes the problem with the stage height when flying or performing a Super Jump.
Post by: Acey on May 08, 2009, 01:33:41 PM
Thanks I really appreciate it. x-boy has been in mugen for a long time, he made the original sprites for Human Torch and Silver Surfer and is working on a Final Fight project. He can be found at this French forum:
http://createandplay.free.fr/forum/index.php?topic=189.0 (http://createandplay.free.fr/forum/index.php?topic=189.0)
Post by: MaxBeta on May 08, 2009, 01:37:37 PM
Well...if X-Boy is still going to be working on that stage, I don't think I should keep tinkering with it unless his doesn't support Super Jump and Flying....which apparently the released one does, but has many unfinished sprite flaws due to the height of the stage being taller.
Post by: Acey on May 08, 2009, 01:38:41 PM
Oh, I see now...They're working on a Final Fight Mugen Full Game.
Well...if his still going to be working on that stage, I don't think I should keep tinkering with it unless his doesn't support Super Jump and Flying....which apparently the released one does, but has many unfinished sprite flaws.
This stage is actually one that they ended up not using for the Final Fight Project so they're letting us use it for EoH.
Post by: MaxBeta on May 08, 2009, 01:43:49 PM
Well if that's the case...then count me in to fix it.
Post by: Jedah12 on May 10, 2009, 11:52:13 PM
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1488/mugen0m.png) (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mugen0m.png)
I win the round with the pipe and the battle didn't finish.
Post by: senorfro on May 11, 2009, 12:45:20 AM
Post by: atomicbuster on May 11, 2009, 11:10:10 AM
Look at the responses to this thread. How many people say they like it AND THEN say they will download? It doesn't make sense. For the few that actually tried him out, they like him because he's the missing link in the Final Fight trilogy; basically, for nostalgia. In the 6 pages of this thread I only read like 3 people mention that he has gameplay issues. Only ONE person mentioned he looks like Hulk. Again, it's an issue about standards. And BTW, Sorry, but I don't have to "live with it." It got evicted off my computer.
This is my last post on this char until the next update, which I hope is huge.
My final feedback is that His sprites are not good. I cannot have him in my mugen because looking at him causes my eyes to hurt. My recommendation is, before you even fix sounds and code, please spend some time fixing sprite issues (the proportion is the most important). Thanks and good luck.
Post by: KudosForce on May 11, 2009, 11:33:47 AM
My final feedback is that His sprites are not good. I cannot have him in my mugen because looking at him causes my eyes to hurt. My recommendation is, before you even fix sounds and code, please spend some time fixing sprite issues (the proportion is the most important). Thanks and good luck.
His sprites look fine to me. They were already re-sized from Hulk sprites. But hey, it's your opinion. :-??
Post by: Acey on May 11, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Post by: nickfurry on May 12, 2009, 10:25:47 AM
Well after both playing with him and fighting against him here's my Review ^_^Man he needs mush more than that. He definetly needs more hypers as u mention, but is not the only thing, he also needs more special moves. Another thing, Y not give him more things to use like a nife' a sword and others. I consider Hagar still a Beta, He still needs allot of work. He still lacking Special Moves' Hypers' And other things can be added like giving him more defrent wepons and maybe if the creator want's to go wild, how about helpers from the final fight univers. So because of this I can't give him a B+ like u did, BC he still needs improvement. I'll give him a C+
Pros: his sprites are great though his holding the pipe COULD do some more work
he has somewhat aggressive AI
ITS A FINISHED HAGGAR!
Cons:
well when fighting him if he blocks and uses the guard push he'll go RIGHT into the grab animation until you hit him
ONLY 2 supers T_T I miss his maximum bomber from Nam X Cap (Lol that's my personal issue so meh)
his grab opponent is practically useless besides gaining a free hit (my suggestion make the grab into a special where a certain button does something diff. ex grab + HP = Headbutt ^_^)
all in all seeing how theres not that many problems found in this FINISHED HAGGAR!
I'll give it a B+ Keep up the good work hope to see some improvements in the next update
Post by: Acey on May 12, 2009, 10:28:34 AM
Man he needs mush more than that. He definetly needs more hypers as u mention, but is not the only thing, he also needs more special moves. Another thing, Y not give him more things to use like a nife' a sword and others. I consider Hagar still a Beta, He still needs allot of work. He still lacking Special Moves' Hypers' And other things can be added like giving him more defrent wepons. So because of this I can't give him a B+ like u did, BC he still needs improvement. I'll give him a C+
I give him a B+, yeah, he's not finished yet. He does have more spcials than Zangief although I still have 2 more hypers to add as well.
Post by: Gaijin on May 12, 2009, 10:37:40 AM
Post by: Acey on May 12, 2009, 10:51:09 AM
oh yeah when he grabs the opponent you will you make him able to jump while holding the opponent in his hold position lik ein the real game?
Yes, I'll also be adding more leadpipe attacks and the ability to jump with the leadpipe. All in due time.
Post by: Gaijin on May 12, 2009, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: KudosForce on May 12, 2009, 10:59:03 AM
Yes, I'll also be adding more leadpipe attacks and the ability to jump with the leadpipe. All in due time.
That's great to hear! A little more bang for that FF experience. :thumbsup:
Post by: Near on May 12, 2009, 08:50:13 PM
Post by: CommanderChaos on May 12, 2009, 09:35:58 PM
You rock! 8)
Post by: jellyfish on May 14, 2009, 10:02:38 PM
I started working on sprites for Haggar some time, but several issues could not continue. :'(
So I congratulate those that have completed what I started. :thumbsup:
Thank you for including in the credit. ;D
greetings
la.jellyfish@gmail.com
Post by: Grayskull on May 15, 2009, 06:33:24 AM
I think about one thing ,
maybe it's too late for ideas , lol ,
but did you plan to add him a special attack
where he can heat something like an apple or a chicken to regain some life ?
Anyway I'd love the work done by Jellyfish ,
and I love the work you done and the add you made on this Haggar , Acey !
like the MVC announcer says : "Wonderful !" :thumbsup:
Post by: SND-Frostey on May 18, 2009, 02:41:36 PM
Post by: bigal344 on May 19, 2009, 08:40:22 PM
Post by: SPAN on May 22, 2009, 07:18:55 AM
Thanx again & Kind Regards, SPAN... ;D
Post by: mugenmaniacman on May 26, 2009, 10:16:17 PM
Post by: nickfurry on May 31, 2009, 04:13:51 PM
Yes, I'll also be adding more leadpipe attacks and the ability to jump with the leadpipe. All in due time.
I don't know if u or anyone in here have notice but there is another very good haggar out there done by (Abuhachi)
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=94713.0 (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=94713.0)
Post by: juelz aka wolfi on May 31, 2009, 07:13:45 PM
Post by: Acey on July 07, 2009, 06:54:40 PM
Post by: celobateira on July 08, 2009, 07:40:31 AM
Post by: Playing Enemy on July 10, 2009, 01:41:39 AM
Post by: dhb05 on July 14, 2009, 12:36:19 AM
Post by: Near on August 19, 2009, 09:46:01 PM
Post by: Worksa8 on August 20, 2009, 01:13:50 AM
Post by: Kira Amadeus on August 21, 2009, 05:55:29 AM
Post by: Captain Commando on November 02, 2009, 04:03:43 PM
Post by: PARANATION on November 10, 2009, 03:06:45 AM
Acey, you never cease to amaze me!
I couldn't agree more lol
Post by: Acey on November 10, 2009, 09:16:19 AM
Post by: KudosForce on November 10, 2009, 09:34:41 AM
Thanks, I appreciate it, I'm working on Captain America right now but Haggar has another update coming his was in the future.
Really? Well, I am looking forward to both of those. ;)
Good luck and do your best, boss! %%- ::salute::
Post by: PARANATION on November 10, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
Thanks, I appreciate it, I'm working on Captain America right now but Haggar has another update coming his was in the future.
Another update. Awsome! Can't wait for it. Keep up the great work! ^_^