Post by: Luigi-Master on July 03, 2009, 03:35:25 PM
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'Anything but MvC' style Kingpin
By Luigi-Master aka Luigimaster
Original by Slotman
Version 2.1
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Updated to 2.1
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-Added his KO cry. I forgot that I erased it for testing purposes
-Added some delay to the spray and laser supers
-Fixed his 9000,0 icon
-Fixed his basic attacks. Now they no longer have red clsn for more than 5 ticks
-Made the shockwaves appear when p2 is hit against the walls, thanks to statedef -2
-Chaged the thrown animation (820)
-Made the blue dash lines appear when p2 is thrown. Yo know, to make it look better
-You can now throw with MP or HP
-Removed the tag team thing. Just couldn't get it to work right
-Disabled chaining into the spray, since thanks to it's new delay, you can't connact it anyway
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What do I need to do?
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-I tried making him turn when back is held down, but p1 turns. p2 doesn't, and will also fly to the same direction as if he was facing forward, and yes, I tried using the same variable to make the victim turn in state 820 and make the velocity change in state 1126, but nothing still, so for now he can only throw straight.
-Make an AI
-Somehow fix the commands to that he can Super Jump by pressing 3 kick buttons in addition to the Down/Up motion
-Anything else that will be reported
-More specials and supers, particularly those of other characters
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Why did I do this?
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Well, since Kingpin is a Marvel character, I decided to make him into this bastardized version of everyone except Koopakoot's favorite fighting style.
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Why "Anything-But-MvC"?
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Because it isn't totally accurate to any of the VS series games, yet retains some of their features.
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What did I do?
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-Gave him 6 button gameplay since he was originally 4 button
-MvC gimmicks such as air rave, super jump, guard push, among others
-MvC2 and some CvS/MB/whatever effects. LOL EFFECT INCONSISTENCY
-Tried implementing IMT's tag team system. Might get around to tweaking it.
-That's about it, really.
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Moves:
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Cane Laser - D/B/Punch
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Shoots a short burst of laser from his cane. Stronger versions are longer and hit more times. YES I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE SEPERATED THE LASER FROM HIS CANE SHUT UP IM LAZY ALLCAPS IS FUNNY
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Sleeping Gas - D/F/Punch
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Sprays gas at the opponent to stun them. If in the air, they just fall as if they were tripped. Weak shoots the gas diagonally down, medium shoots straight, and hard shoots diagonally up.
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Super:
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Gunner - D/F/2xPunch
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Summons a gunman to shoot 25 bullets at you. Hit Kingpin and he flies away. Hit the gunman and he flies away. After the gunman does his job, Kingpin is left vulnerable for about 45 ticks, and takes a good 15 to start.
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Credits:
Splode, Cloudius, XCB, Team SMRT (lol) - Some coding references.
SPECIFICALLY
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Splode - Laucher code, super jump code
Cloudius - Bullet gravity thinger
XCB - Hit timing, super portrait
Team SMRT - Dizzy custom state
IMT - Combo counting code (though it still doesn't work right)
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XRedDragonClawsX, IMT, Nabeshin, that Japanese guy who made MvC Don Patch, CipherLucious - MvC2 Effects
That guy who made that Rugal hosted on RS - Slash effects
@ndroide - MB effects/sounds
Reza, IMT - MvC2 sound effects
XRedDragonClawsX - coding help
MC2 - for these awkward palettes
Anyone else that I forgot about
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f**k yous:
You know who you are :D =3 <3
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Thank you so much for-a downloading my piece of sh*t.
~Luigi-Master
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Original Documentation Below
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Kingpin by Slotman - 2005
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Version 1.0
25, December, 2005
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Credits
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Kingpin was ripped from "The Punisher" arcade game, and a lot of stuff
was edited based on the original frames.
Thanks for Capcom for making this game and for Marvel for creating such
character.
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Disclaimer
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This character is a property of Marvel Comics, and by being so, only them
can claim copyright on it. So, do what you want with it, just please keep my
name as the original creator of this char - and the rest... I really dont
care :)
This character cannot be sold on any form, even if included on some form
of "compilation". Once again, only Marvel Comics has the rights to do so.
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Move List
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| Command | Action |
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| D, DF, F, weak punch | gas attack |
| D, DF, F, str. punch | laser attack |
| D, DF, F, two punches | call machine gun man |
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I hope you enjoy. :)
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 03, 2009, 03:39:43 PM
Post by: ExShadow on July 03, 2009, 03:45:36 PM
Post by: Luigi-Master on July 03, 2009, 03:53:08 PM
Oh yeah, sorry about posting it in the wrong section. I thought it meant anyone on IMT, not just staff... :S
Post by: Playing Enemy on July 03, 2009, 04:19:22 PM
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Post by: DARKTALBAIN on July 03, 2009, 04:46:42 PM
Post by: Worksa8 on July 03, 2009, 05:57:22 PM
Post by: Nestor on July 03, 2009, 06:01:15 PM
See you.
Post by: Worksa8 on July 03, 2009, 06:02:58 PM
Post by: dronoxx on July 03, 2009, 06:59:31 PM
Post by: Worksa8 on July 03, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
I can download any other MU link no problem, this one just won't work...
Post by: Luigi-Master on July 03, 2009, 11:46:47 PM
This guy is actually pretty good. He just needs 1-3 more hypers, and 2-4 more special attacks, and he'll be a complete character. I like the henchman with a gun hyper too, it's suiting for the Kingpin. Thanks for releasing him, and I can't wait for some updates. :thumbsup:
Well there isn't a whole much I can do with him right now, so as he sits he's done. I know that Kingpin is capable of much more than just using his cane (supposedly he knows martial arts and has a plethora of gadgets), but I just edited him to the best of my capabilities and what I could work with.
I just tried him and I have to say awesome. :) It a big improvement. I really like what you did with him Any plans to do it for his Vision.
yeah please do something with his vision . Thanx for this release
Umm, I'm kinda lost at this vision part... /:O By that do you mean presentation/sprites/etc? Cause if so, I'm afraid I can't do much more, since my sprite editing abilities are rather poor, and these are ripped from the Punisher arcade game (by Slotman no less). If I could, I would've.
Just tried it. I have to say that even with my limited exp with mugen, its a solid character with good spriting (though I'm nowhere near as others in debugging that stuff). My largest gripe with some characters though is their screen size. I absolutely understand authenticity, but i feel that game play sometimes suffers if the character takes up huge chunks of the screen. That aside, I agree with the few more moves, few more supers, and it'll fill out a complete character.
Well, Kingpin was a rather large character to begin with, so I'm afraid I can't do much regarding his size and being a 'normal' sized character.
Yeah it will still not let me download it T_T
I can download any other MU link no problem, this one just won't work...
Hmm. I would've used Mediafire, but it's acting up for me. Let me sendspace it.
EDIT: http://www.sendspace.com/file/84xyqf (http://www.sendspace.com/file/84xyqf)
Try that.
Post by: aa250 on July 04, 2009, 12:34:15 AM
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Umm, I'm kinda lost at this vision part... Huh?! By that do you mean presentation/sprites/etc? Cause if so, I'm afraid I can't do much more, since my sprite editing abilities are rather poor, and these are ripped from the Punisher arcade game (by Slotman no less). If I could, I would've.
No you don' have to make anything Slotman released Vision last November, but he was only announced at Scruffy. He is a Green Marvel character with a cape. Not that many people know that Vision exist for Mugen.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1488/mugen0m.png)
Me and DT were just suggesting if you could do an update to him two, because we were impressed on what you did with the kingpin. It just that slotman doesn't put that much effort in his character at all. Well that my opinion. I mean there good, but it would be nice if he had sound, hyper portrait ect.
Post by: Jelux Da Casual on July 04, 2009, 02:39:15 AM
...but it would be nice if he had sound, hyper portrait ect.
fought like an MvC...
Post by: Worksa8 on July 04, 2009, 07:07:35 AM
Post by: aokmaniac13 on July 04, 2009, 11:10:58 AM
- Bad color separation, alternate palettes look terrible.
- Small portrait is messed up.
- Whiffed attacks are almost completely unpunishable. In most cases the clsn1 are active for over 10 frames with almost no recovery frames afterwards. His LP moves have no recovery frames whatsoever.
- Gas is unblockable at point blank range because the hitdefs are active at time = 0. This is a bug in mugen but still fixable.
That is all for now.
Post by: Dj Sonic on July 04, 2009, 11:35:28 AM
Post by: Luigi-Master on July 04, 2009, 01:52:43 PM
No you don' have to make anything Slotman released Vision last November, but he was only announced at Scruffy. He is a Green Marvel character with a cape. Not that many people know that Vision exist for Mugen.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1488/mugen0m.png)
Me and DT were just suggesting if you could do an update to him two, because we were impressed on what you did with the kingpin. It just that slotman doesn't put that much effort in his character at all. Well that my opinion. I mean there good, but it would be nice if he had sound, hyper portrait ect.
Oh, I never knew he made a Vision. Maybe I'll get around to fixing him, but I'm not one to be able to find voices for him. Maybe someone else can help me find voices.
- Bad color separation, alternate palettes look terrible.
- Small portrait is messed up.
- Whiffed attacks are almost completely unpunishable. In most cases the clsn1 are active for over 10 frames with almost no recovery frames afterwards. His LP moves have no recovery frames whatsoever.
- Gas is unblockable at point blank range because the hitdefs are active at time = 0. This is a bug in mugen but still fixable.
That is all for now.
Well, well, well. If it isn't my sworn enemy,
1. Well, Slotman did the spriting and whatever, so there isn't a whole lot I could do here. AND MC DID THE PALETTES HES YOUR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEND.
2. I just noticed that when I put him in my regular roster. I will see what I can do for that.
3. I understand the concept of punishability, but what I can't put my finger on is how to balance it correctly. If you don't mind, I'd like some guidelines/suggestions, since after all, I still don't know anything.
4. Would 'trigger1 != time' work?
I appreciate feedback, as long as it's thorough and not just 'oh hey im posting feedback kthxbai'.
Post by: kamekaze on July 04, 2009, 02:12:24 PM
Post by: JDubbs on July 04, 2009, 02:42:26 PM
Post by: aokmaniac13 on July 04, 2009, 02:48:25 PM
3. I understand the concept of punishability, but what I can't put my finger on is how to balance it correctly. If you don't mind, I'd like some guidelines/suggestions, since after all, I still don't know anything.If you find yourself with an attack frame that lasts longer than 5 ticks, split it into two frames. One with clsn1, one without.
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4. Would 'trigger1 = time' work?Yes.
Post by: Luigi-Master on July 04, 2009, 03:47:01 PM
I like him alot. i just wish his A.I. was tough. also what about having some helpers?
I was going to give him an AI, but first I need to fix everything else before making an AI.
Post by: SkieTheKitsune on July 05, 2009, 01:31:27 AM
Post by: Luigi-Master on July 10, 2009, 02:38:21 PM
Also, Kingpin updated July 9, 2009.
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Post by: DanOwnsall112 on July 30, 2009, 06:13:12 PM
this is class. :thumbsup: althrough, I changed his palletes to: 1,1,1,1,1 and yet still his coat turns multicoloured. Whys this?
try erasing all of his other pallates and only leave the first one.
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