i didnt get a chance to say something i have to say but i am up today now...had to get some sleep. lol.
cool now we have had the discussion about what was brought up but from here on out Keep the posts towards his beta release on the character itself and any viable feed back thats not done in a demeaning manner so he can use the feedback to maybe use and add updates and not about the creator and how he creates. Feed back and comments on the character itself now good peoples. :thumbsup:
i have some last words to address but i shall put them in a spoiler. but here on out..do the above.
@ Darkflare: As mentioned i get where you going and understand exactly what your saying but ya know man, again, its his choice how he does the Project. these characters are part of a Project he has going and this is his chosen way of doing it. It has been done way before he has come along by others. Its their way of doing and gives the hungry mugen people that want the characters a good time to try them out until whenever or if ever he or other creators time frame to update. Its their free will not anyone elses. . Its not the way i would do it cause thats not how i personally do things or will do things i will release for a full project or solo single wip....thats my free will at work. lol. but its his choice. I respect that boundary. So yeah i will still say if experienced coders who think they can deliver solid info to help him out and seriously want to give feed back , do so , if he takes its ...fine.. if he doesnt..fine still. He has updated a couple characters i believe too but if anyone still thinks they are a beta type even if he done updating it to his liking then thats what it feels to you and anyone who thinks they are. again.. he might just be like other creators in the past and say...its finished or don't say anything and it is what it is. lol But he hasn't. so updates will come in his time frame, not our wants. give him some time and just see what he does with his characters in any further updates. thats all we can do unless help to make them get closer to a finished character per say.So far... i like some of the betas. some more than others but thats my thought and i have alot of respect for what he is doing. Keep up the work Cho dude and do what you can to keep getting better. :)
Ok R@ce: same exact thing i been saying since other page of comments and this one above applies to what you just posted. :D . If you want further thought into what cho is doing...look at demunlawin post. That might be what matters to him and fans of his work that dont mind how he is doing it. I feel you on the sprites thing with anyones creation ever made...even by company produced stuff we rip. You can have all the sprites you need for the animation and the more sprites for it the more to code but doesnt mean the better the overall product once its all coded. You can have all the sprites needed and still have to issues. Thats the coders tech skills to work it out to make it...work.
No matter how many or less sprites. Your characters sprites can have enormous fluidity and still be coded off or bad. Its all with testing and working the code methods to make it work with the desired effectiveness to be done either right on perfect or close to it. I gave a little feed back as i am not a bonifide coder.... yet >:D but i am learning and know a few little things. I let him know what i found in Akira from the AI side of the beta. In my mugen thats what he does but he may not do that in whatever version of mugen he is using. So i will have to try him out again using the standard 1.0 mugen engine and not in my screenpack i have since its tweaked.
If you or anyone wants him to update to the preferred timeline set by your own standards or those who share same Ideology of beta releasing is those individuals personal preference.. not that creators but if they want to take that advice then its up to them. its niether right or wrong. Its a choice. He could take his time and still issues may still be in the characters. That is a definite in mugen characters and content still from years going with well established creators retired or still active cause any wip can be gone back over and updated to wether improve or even alter.. thats on a more broader scale...i know. lol. but still applies. If you choose not to DL anything he makes because he doesnt fix to your liking or time frame to have what you want , desire or wish the character to have....again little brother/nephew.. lol... that is your personal choice and it is what it is. :)
Now go make me my R@ce style new Rugal !! Asap Sun! \-/o .. :D ..
ok stick to the character and any feed back on the character if you choose to provide ladies and gents. Keep improving Cho dude. Hope to see more from you and the updates as they come. :thumbsup: Magman bro.
@ Darkflare: As mentioned i get where you going and understand exactly what your saying but ya know man, again, its his choice how he does the Project. these characters are part of a Project he has going and this is his chosen way of doing it. It has been done way before he has come along by others. Its their way of doing and gives the hungry mugen people that want the characters a good time to try them out until whenever or if ever he or other creators time frame to update. Its their free will not anyone elses. . Its not the way i would do it cause thats not how i personally do things or will do things i will release for a full project or solo single wip....thats my free will at work. lol. but its his choice. I respect that boundary. So yeah i will still say if experienced coders who think they can deliver solid info to help him out and seriously want to give feed back , do so , if he takes its ...fine.. if he doesnt..fine still. He has updated a couple characters i believe too but if anyone still thinks they are a beta type even if he done updating it to his liking then thats what it feels to you and anyone who thinks they are. again.. he might just be like other creators in the past and say...its finished or don't say anything and it is what it is. lol But he hasn't. so updates will come in his time frame, not our wants. give him some time and just see what he does with his characters in any further updates. thats all we can do unless help to make them get closer to a finished character per say.So far... i like some of the betas. some more than others but thats my thought and i have alot of respect for what he is doing. Keep up the work Cho dude and do what you can to keep getting better. :)
Just calling it like I see it, bro.
For comment like this I have no more account in "Mugen Fighter Guild" dont worry amigo I have some surpises for all forums I have (ecept Mugen Fighter Guild) :D
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But you did admit to being a bad coder... (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/cvs-devil-jin-beta-chuchoryu-149609.msg1746700.html#msg1746700) <-Link of proof
Unless of course, the reason is because everyone else at guild said the same thing I said just now, in which case, I have no further comments.